I can't see it "going away", globally... in every niche area.
A system whereby you enclose a message and propose a recipient or recipients, and both sender and recipient have copies that can be saved. I can't see that, going away entirely, without something that addresses everything that email can do AND fix everything it can't do, or does poorly.
As far as mainstream for the 'everyman', it has already gone away folks. You just haven't realized it yet.
Slashdot was a hub for information during the 9/11 attacks because just about every news site out there was, forgive the pub, slashdotted.
What did THAT have to do with tech? Nothing... it was simply relevant.
Seriously, I think the anti-science and anti-fact agenda touches us a little bit more than anyone else. The "nerds" are going to be first against the wall when reasoning is made illegal.
If this burns Karma, so be it: there are parallel movements to the Tailban in the U.S. It's worth keeping an eye on.
Maybe some people who read Slashdot are interested in it? There are currently several stories on the front page that I have no interest in (especially the one with SlashCloud in the summary, a clear indication that at least one of the editors is dangerously rabid) and Slashdot comes with a very convenient feature to let me avoid them. There is a link next to the story that I am not interested in labelled 'Read the {some number} comments'. Using my pointing device of choice, I carefully move the cursor away from this link and don't click on it. Slashdot even provides a very convenient user interface optimisation here, by making not clicking on it the default! I suggest that you may wish to do the same thing.
That is an excellent idea... in fact, I'm going to move my cursor all the way up to the lil x, in the upper right hand corner. It has more of a 'global effect' on these stories.
I'm sorry, you lost me at "females." I mean, I've heard about them and even seen pictures of them on the internets. I hear they're great people and would love to meet one someday, but women as "stuff that matters" to the average slashdotter? Shirley you jest!
Geeks and nerds often care about education related issues, which 'we would rather kill our females then let them learn to read' falls under.
Yes, as a geek/nerd, I care about education issues, social issues, and civil rights issues. Most of the geeks/nerds that are in my social circles are also.
And for that, I use a news service, such as Google News to aggregate the OTHER topics that I am interested in besides Tech News.
I used to read/. regularly because they generally avoided nonsense like this in favor of genuine geek news topics. I have learned to get my informative reading from other sources, especially using a news reader of my own selection of curated bloggers who share my sentiments of mainstream media.
And the timeliness. Let's not forget that news that appears here 5 days later than EVERYWHERE ELSE... is also, not news. At least nothing I'm interested in, anymore.
As you said, a good news reader and sites of more relevance and you'll see every single story that appears here... just, when it happens.
I wish someone would make a clone of Slashdot (but with some better coding), and do a better job in which stories are submitted, and in filtering out the really negative posters. The lack of civility here is appalling at times. It doesn't help that it's been so infiltrated by paid shills. And the intellectual capacity here isn't all that great either, and I believe has fallen greatly from the "glory days" 10+ years ago. There's a lot of people here who think they're smart, but they're really not and they have no critical thinking ability at all; this especially comes up any time a discussion veers into talk about America's imperialist actions or politics.
I've been working on one... if you're in earnest, alienjuggernaut AT {google's mail} DOT com
That goes for anyone, not just Grishnakh.
Although I expect to work almost 100% remotely, if you live in Phoenix like he does, that helps.
Definitely going to concentrate on timeliness. And I imagine we're going to have an interesting conversation on 'how the new site should stay on topic and what exactly those topics are."
well I banged on a few doors in the local library system a few years ago trying to get multi-head multi-user Linux systems in there but got shut out. I eventually found someone who said that they had a deal with the Gates Foundation which prevented them from using open source software.
I'd call bullshit on this - if not, make it into a news story. it would gather a lot of views.
Not really, this is called, old news... history. Only you kids are surprised, us bitter old guys... we are bitter for a reason. We lived thru the 90's, it's done and happened. We tried to get Linux out there but the bully on the block didn't let us. This is a capitalist society for a reason. Money. There's bigger fish to fry. Carry on.
Bribery is fully legal here in the USA. You just have to call it something different. For instance, if you want to bribe a Congressman, you just call it a "campaign donation" and it's OK.
People in developed countries (mainly Europe) don't seem to be able to understand at all that the USA is just as corrupt as Mexico, in fact probably much more so.
Exactly, we have just learned to turn the corruption into subtle coercive talk that ends with two people being happy and flush or one being happy and the other destitute.
I've worked for several Fortune 500 companies. Support has nothing to do with the decision: Exclusionary contracts do. Microsoft offers huge discounts to businesses that agree not to use a competitor's product. They also regularily check for compliance and there are large fines for any company caught using open source software.
I have been an employee/contractor at many Fortune 500 companies, and have never seen anything even hinting at a contract with Microsoft involving "large fines for any company caught using open source software". Care to provide any proof of Microsoft contract with any F500 consumer of software that prohibits said F500 from running open source software?
Seriously though, the poster you're responding to is full of shit. I've been in IT for 25 years and have worked with everything from SMB's to Fortune 10's and have never seen any such thing.
It would be nice if people could state their opinions without resorting to lies and trolling.
And I guess based on the conclusions of you two,
The Emperor of Japan doesn't exist, since you haven't met him The damage caused by the tsunami in Indonesia doesn't exist cause you weren't there when it happened. A tree fell in the woods and it made no sound. Cause you didn't bless it with your presence.
Maybe if you two would do some REALLY LIGHT googling, you'd see that what he said is correct.
Maybe not wide reaching nor at every place but there were collusive and exclusive deals laid out by Microsoft "back in the day", that guaranteed Linux would not take foothold.
Not everyone has to prove what you don't know, lol. They make encyclopedias for that.
NO really how many people do i know with a smart phone....1 out of hundreds why? its too damn expensive and ill add a home pc can do i dunno TONS more. they are better then xboxs for games...they can make phone calls , they can program and make games if i want to....they can OMG lets be stupid oh wait the poster is american i forgot your math skills ratings im sorry carry on be stupid....
1 out of hundreds? Um, this isn't 2001 anymore. When was the last time you were out of the basement?
Or do you live in a technological backwater?
I'd say the ratio is exactly the opposite, 1 out of hundreds still has a feature phone.
Or maybe it's a father who wants to monitor what his kids are doing. You might disagree with that, but as long as he's not beating his kids, how he raises his family is none of your business.
This guy wants to secure his home network. A secure network is a good thing. I'm sure you'll say that this is monitoring, not security. Well, how do you know if you've properly secured your network without monitoring it?
How is it illegal, GP's words, to monitor your kids network activities, if they are living in your house?
Have you started building your shelter yet? In all likelihood, you won't be around to see them, since the intra-generational gap will spread in the post-apocalyptic world. But a shelter would increase your chances.
What tha fuck does this have to do with a slash and a dot? or a pound and bang for that matter? WTF?? How the fuck is this news for nerds? What the fuck is happening to Slashdot lately? Useless unrelated political crap and Google bashing is about all you find these days.
Lately? You must be new here.
bump on the 'how the fuck is this news for nerds'
I know how brainy people can have a wide range of interests, but that's not what this site is for. It's for a narrow/deep range of interests that geeks as a whole, respond to. Politics, is not one of those subjects. Electronic Voting is. Zimmerman is not. Electronic gun countermeasures are.
Any tonic diluted enough will eventually just be water.
News for nerds, stuff that matters... oh woe the comma.
Slashdot Mirror
Sure... pay my bills.
Cause I already went to school and obviously know how to do your
job better cause you're here asking me how to do it.
You = Newb,
Me = Expert.
-AI
Beside, posting anonymously didn't seem to hinder your ability to see my point.
My desire to see a gleaming gem occasionally, has me still perusing at '0'.
At least it's up to 1 now.
-AI
OMFG... faxes.... as a former residential real estate agent... I cringed daily as I had
to keep up the dead tree ritual to make everyone happy.
I was fully equipped for pdf and docusign. But there were still a few steps that almost
everyone universally demanded dead trees be involved.
I hope the tablet revolution has changed that. Any current RE's? Is your MLS at least
browser friendly now? And you don't have to print those out too.
-AI
"Hey, Dave"
"Hey, dude"
*shakes hand*
Shame you posted this AC...
it is a very insightful look into something that is missing from
a lot of people's lives.
-AI
I can't see it "going away", globally... in every niche area.
A system whereby you enclose a message and propose a recipient or recipients,
and both sender and recipient have copies that can be saved. I can't see that,
going away entirely, without something that addresses everything that email
can do AND fix everything it can't do, or does poorly.
As far as mainstream for the 'everyman', it has already gone away folks.
You just haven't realized it yet.
-AI
Slashdot was a hub for information during the 9/11 attacks because just about every news site out there was, forgive the pub, slashdotted.
What did THAT have to do with tech? Nothing... it was simply relevant.
Seriously, I think the anti-science and anti-fact agenda touches us a little bit more than anyone else. The "nerds" are going to be first against the wall when reasoning is made illegal.
If this burns Karma, so be it: there are parallel movements to the Tailban in the U.S. It's worth keeping an eye on.
Wtf? You're comparing this to 9/11??
-AI
Maybe some people who read Slashdot are interested in it? There are currently several stories on the front page that I have no interest in (especially the one with SlashCloud in the summary, a clear indication that at least one of the editors is dangerously rabid) and Slashdot comes with a very convenient feature to let me avoid them. There is a link next to the story that I am not interested in labelled 'Read the {some number} comments'. Using my pointing device of choice, I carefully move the cursor away from this link and don't click on it. Slashdot even provides a very convenient user interface optimisation here, by making not clicking on it the default! I suggest that you may wish to do the same thing.
That is an excellent idea... in fact, I'm going to move my cursor all the way up to the lil x,
in the upper right hand corner. It has more of a 'global effect' on these stories.
-AI
I'm sorry, you lost me at "females." I mean, I've heard about them and even seen pictures of them on the internets. I hear they're great people and would love to meet one someday, but women as "stuff that matters" to the average slashdotter? Shirley you jest!
I don't ... and quit calling me Shirley.
-AI(rplane)
Geeks and nerds often care about education related issues, which 'we would rather kill our females then let them learn to read' falls under.
Yes, as a geek/nerd, I care about education issues, social issues, and civil rights issues. Most of the geeks/nerds that are in my social circles are also.
And for that, I use a news service, such as Google News to aggregate
the OTHER topics that I am interested in besides Tech News.
-AI
Yes, it's true that slashdot is a techie site, but...
just once in a while, let go of your Asperger's responses and realize that there's a larger world around you.
Said the waiter at the fine dining restaurant as they serve you a burger and fries.
-AI
Yup. There was just plain old news on Slashdot long before even I showed up
Tits or gtfo
-AI
I used to read /. regularly because they generally avoided nonsense like this in favor of genuine geek news topics. I have learned to get my informative reading from other sources, especially using a news reader of my own selection of curated bloggers who share my sentiments of mainstream media.
And the timeliness. Let's not forget that news that appears
here 5 days later than EVERYWHERE ELSE... is also,
not news. At least nothing I'm interested in, anymore.
As you said, a good news reader and sites of more relevance
and you'll see every single story that appears here... just, when
it happens.
-AI
I wish someone would make a clone of Slashdot (but with some better coding), and do a better job in which stories are submitted, and in filtering out the really negative posters. The lack of civility here is appalling at times. It doesn't help that it's been so infiltrated by paid shills. And the intellectual capacity here isn't all that great either, and I believe has fallen greatly from the "glory days" 10+ years ago. There's a lot of people here who think they're smart, but they're really not and they have no critical thinking ability at all; this especially comes up any time a discussion veers into talk about America's imperialist actions or politics.
I've been working on one... if you're in earnest,
alienjuggernaut AT {google's mail} DOT com
That goes for anyone, not just Grishnakh.
Although I expect to work almost 100% remotely,
if you live in Phoenix like he does, that helps.
Definitely going to concentrate on timeliness.
And I imagine we're going to have an interesting
conversation on 'how the new site should stay on
topic and what exactly those topics are."
-AI
Yes, the site will be in 80col... /s
well I banged on a few doors in the local library system a few years ago trying to get multi-head multi-user Linux systems in there but got shut out. I eventually found someone who said that they had a deal with the Gates Foundation which prevented them from using open source software.
I'd call bullshit on this - if not, make it into a news story. it would gather a lot of views.
Not really, this is called, old news... history. Only you kids are surprised, us bitter old guys... we are bitter for a reason.
We lived thru the 90's, it's done and happened. We tried to get Linux out there but the bully on the block didn't let us.
This is a capitalist society for a reason. Money. There's bigger fish to fry. Carry on.
etc.
-AI
Bribery is fully legal here in the USA. You just have to call it something different. For instance, if you want to bribe a Congressman, you just call it a "campaign donation" and it's OK.
People in developed countries (mainly Europe) don't seem to be able to understand at all that the USA is just as corrupt as Mexico, in fact probably much more so.
Exactly, we have just learned to turn the corruption into subtle
coercive talk that ends with two people being happy and flush
or one being happy and the other destitute.
Rarely are they lined up on the roads dead here.
-AI
I've worked for several Fortune 500 companies. Support has nothing to do with the decision: Exclusionary contracts do. Microsoft offers huge discounts to businesses that agree not to use a competitor's product. They also regularily check for compliance and there are large fines for any company caught using open source software.
I have been an employee/contractor at many Fortune 500 companies, and have never seen anything even hinting at a contract with Microsoft involving "large fines for any company caught using open source software". Care to provide any proof of Microsoft contract with any F500 consumer of software that prohibits said F500 from running open source software?
Seriously though, the poster you're responding to is full of shit. I've been in IT for 25 years and have worked with everything from SMB's to Fortune 10's and have never seen any such thing.
It would be nice if people could state their opinions without resorting to lies and trolling.
And I guess based on the conclusions of you two,
The Emperor of Japan doesn't exist, since you haven't met him
The damage caused by the tsunami in Indonesia doesn't exist cause you weren't there when it happened.
A tree fell in the woods and it made no sound. Cause you didn't bless it with your presence.
Maybe if you two would do some REALLY LIGHT googling, you'd see that what he said is correct.
Maybe not wide reaching nor at every place but there were collusive and exclusive deals laid out
by Microsoft "back in the day", that guaranteed Linux would not take foothold.
Not everyone has to prove what you don't know, lol. They make encyclopedias for that.
-AI
NO really ....1 out of hundreds why? its too damn expensive and ill add a home pc can do i dunno TONS more. they are better then xboxs for games...they can make phone calls , they can program and make games if i want to ....they can OMG lets be stupid oh wait the poster is american i forgot your math skills ratings im sorry carry on be stupid....
how many people do i know with a smart phone
1 out of hundreds? Um, this isn't 2001 anymore. When was the last time you were out of the basement?
Or do you live in a technological backwater?
I'd say the ratio is exactly the opposite, 1 out of hundreds still has a feature phone.
-AI
Or maybe it's a father who wants to monitor what his kids are doing. You might disagree with that, but as long as he's not beating his kids, how he raises his family is none of your business.
This guy wants to secure his home network. A secure network is a good thing. I'm sure you'll say that this is monitoring, not security. Well, how do you know if you've properly secured your network without monitoring it?
How is it illegal, GP's words, to monitor your kids network activities,
if they are living in your house?
-AI
Wow, remove it and continue to ship.
-AI
where Italy was~
That's pretty optimistic.
Have you started building your shelter yet? In all likelihood, you won't be around to see them, since the
intra-generational gap will spread in the post-apocalyptic world. But a shelter would increase your chances.
-AI
Mine will sing "Daisy Bell" and a logarithmically slower pace.
Too many kids out there to get that one. Well played though.
-AI
What tha fuck does this have to do with a slash and a dot? or a pound and bang for that matter? WTF?? How the fuck is this news for nerds? What the fuck is happening to Slashdot lately? Useless unrelated political crap and Google bashing is about all you find these days.
Lately? You must be new here.
bump on the 'how the fuck is this news for nerds'
I know how brainy people can have a wide range of interests,
but that's not what this site is for. It's for a narrow/deep range
of interests that geeks as a whole, respond to. Politics, is
not one of those subjects. Electronic Voting is. Zimmerman
is not. Electronic gun countermeasures are.
Any tonic diluted enough will eventually just be water.
News for nerds, stuff that matters... oh woe the comma.
-AI
Ok, so since this backtracking happens frequently now there
are only a couple modalities that can be occurring here.
1) Companies really ARE that stupid and greedy.
2) See #1, but not stupid... they are being sly and try to see how much they can get away with til backlash happens.
More and more... I'm starting to believe it's the second one.
-AI
Shakespeare nor I mean any disrespect to any danes.
Unless you use 'Precise & Rapid Correction.'
-AI
Here is an ugly little secret:
It would use less fuel if everyone on the bus drove a geo metro rather then take the bus.
Citation please.
Not saying it might not be true, but I want to see citation.
-AI