No kidding. Basically it was a draw from the summary's hat for who won the computers, from what I can gather. At least, that's the impression I'm getting...
It's also very unclear what constitutes "pwned". Even reading the rules, "code execution in the context of the application" or something... Does that mean these exploits are actually usable to do something malicious, or do they just, say, crash the browser?
Link at the bottom of the page was removed 15 minutes after inital the protection by the same administrator who protected the page. Personally, I considered that short enough a time to consider it "at the same time". Approximately seven hours later (significantly longer than the initial 15 minutes) it was added back by another administrator.
Check the history. The link was removed when the page was protected, and then re-added by someone else seven hours later for reason: "Restoring state to prevent a witch hunt or anything. Could people please assume good faith in future?".
Definitely sounds like a bit of an internal edit war, etc.
On every search page where they've removed results due to the DMCA, the following is placed (the only editing I have done is to the link that would link to the actual notice - it's different for each notice, but Chilling Effects doesn't always have the notice on file):
Linking there does not seem to be supportive of the DMCA. Chilling Effects is surprisingly neutral, given it's project by several law schools and the EFF, but it's far from blind supportiveness from what I can see.
(Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, nor am I American, so I may not know as much about this as someone else here.)
It's not really addressed in the summary or the article, but this sounds like it could also be family intervention, considering the article refers to the last few days or week before death - ventilators, feeding tubes, and similar usually end up being used when the spouses or families of these people decide they want their spouse/parent/grandparent kept alive for as long as possible.
It may be a case of the religious families being unable to let go.
"Foolish and desperate" may not be accurate (certainly not in all cases, anyway), but self-esteem is a valid concern. Low self-esteem can lead to people doing things they don't want to, or feeling like they have to do it, in order to be "accepted" somehow.
This is no place for sensible discussion! (I kid. Mostly.)
The point was brought up several times by several people, myself included, in the last discussion. (Interestingly enough, many of those posts got modded up and down about a dozen times each.) It's a lock in, and only partially - you need an adapter or specially manufactured headphones, but there's nothing to stop reverse engineering, or from using unlicensed headphones/adapters.
On a side note, I wonder if the EFF is going to retract their statement, or issue some sort of apology...
From my understanding of flash chips, it actually should be holding the proper number of bytes. Unlike hard drives (where they redefined a kilobyte as 1000 bytes - and so on), I'm reasonably certain flash chips can only be manufactured in a "binary" scale - explaining why you end up with 8 GiB, 16 GiB, 32 GiB, etc. in SSDs, phones, SD cards, etc.
The discrepancy should only be coming from the formatted capacity - whatever is used in the formatting is gone.
In my experience, bluetooth is mostly used for wireless accessories - like the keyboards/mice/microphones you mentioned. I don't usually find people using it, unless they have no choice, for anything else.
They could repurpose some of the buttons on the device if the screen is currently off. Leave the on/off button doing it's current function ('waking' the screen), and change the home button to play/pause, push-and-hold on the volume up/down changes track, instead of making the volume repeatedly go up.
Er, at least I think the iPhone has a volume control on it. I know the iPod Touch 2G does, and I'd love this to be done for it's controls...
Small ISP. 400 customers. I doubt downloading things from HTTP mirrors is causing the issue. Sounds like few people running high amounts of P2P traffic (math in another post says 6 people running "at capacity" will stuff the network).
Even up here in Canada, without any real threat so far, I've taken to only allowing connections from encrypted peers - partly due to ISP filtering slowing down all downloads, even legitimate ones (Linux distro ISOs). I suggest everyone gets a recent torrent client (such as Transmission on OSX) and allow only encrypted peers.
There is still no evidence of the existence of this mythical "chip". Please provide a link to a disassembly discussion that shows the existence of the chip (the one picture of the disassembled headphone assembly I've seen shows no such thing).
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No kidding. Basically it was a draw from the summary's hat for who won the computers, from what I can gather. At least, that's the impression I'm getting...
It's also very unclear what constitutes "pwned". Even reading the rules, "code execution in the context of the application" or something... Does that mean these exploits are actually usable to do something malicious, or do they just, say, crash the browser?
Wow! There are so many "says" and "states" that I almost lost track of what's going on.
No kidding. I actually had to read/skim the articles (!!) to understand the summary.
Cool down a notch or two there. I'm in Canada, and Wikileaks isn't loading either. Slashdot effect or other server problems, I expect.
Link at the bottom of the page was removed 15 minutes after inital the protection by the same administrator who protected the page. Personally, I considered that short enough a time to consider it "at the same time". Approximately seven hours later (significantly longer than the initial 15 minutes) it was added back by another administrator.
Diff in question is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australian_Communications_and_Media_Authority&diff=278141091&oldid=278071658
Wikileaks seems to, unfortunately, not be loading right now... Anyone have a mirror?
Such a banned list also inevitably leaks out, and provides a *huge* number of links to such sites, which is even more disturbing to me...
Check the history. The link was removed when the page was protected, and then re-added by someone else seven hours later for reason: "Restoring state to prevent a witch hunt or anything. Could people please assume good faith in future?".
Definitely sounds like a bit of an internal edit war, etc.
No, they just want to be a record of all points.
Well, all points that someone at Wikipedia takes a liking to.
On every search page where they've removed results due to the DMCA, the following is placed (the only editing I have done is to the link that would link to the actual notice - it's different for each notice, but Chilling Effects doesn't always have the notice on file):
In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.
Linking there does not seem to be supportive of the DMCA. Chilling Effects is surprisingly neutral, given it's project by several law schools and the EFF, but it's far from blind supportiveness from what I can see.
(Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, nor am I American, so I may not know as much about this as someone else here.)
I have thirty miles of paper and a thousand pens. Lets do this thing.
Mm, no, not quite spaghetti sauce... Calamari with a nice marinara sauce though...
I always said, you never know if you're immortal or not until you die.
I plan on being immortal.
There's probably just a really long line to get in.
It's not really addressed in the summary or the article, but this sounds like it could also be family intervention, considering the article refers to the last few days or week before death - ventilators, feeding tubes, and similar usually end up being used when the spouses or families of these people decide they want their spouse/parent/grandparent kept alive for as long as possible.
It may be a case of the religious families being unable to let go.
Yes. It's a 3.5mm headphone jack with a third connector ring. I've seen these used before for microphones and other accessories - for years.
"Foolish and desperate" may not be accurate (certainly not in all cases, anyway), but self-esteem is a valid concern. Low self-esteem can lead to people doing things they don't want to, or feeling like they have to do it, in order to be "accepted" somehow.
Interesting, thanks. Still a bit slanted, but that's expected with the EFF and any similar organizations.
On a related note, I cannot find iLounge issuing a retraction or apology anywhere for their mistake setting off this whole thing.
This is no place for sensible discussion! (I kid. Mostly.)
The point was brought up several times by several people, myself included, in the last discussion. (Interestingly enough, many of those posts got modded up and down about a dozen times each.) It's a lock in, and only partially - you need an adapter or specially manufactured headphones, but there's nothing to stop reverse engineering, or from using unlicensed headphones/adapters.
On a side note, I wonder if the EFF is going to retract their statement, or issue some sort of apology...
From my understanding of flash chips, it actually should be holding the proper number of bytes. Unlike hard drives (where they redefined a kilobyte as 1000 bytes - and so on), I'm reasonably certain flash chips can only be manufactured in a "binary" scale - explaining why you end up with 8 GiB, 16 GiB, 32 GiB, etc. in SSDs, phones, SD cards, etc.
The discrepancy should only be coming from the formatted capacity - whatever is used in the formatting is gone.
In my experience, bluetooth is mostly used for wireless accessories - like the keyboards/mice/microphones you mentioned. I don't usually find people using it, unless they have no choice, for anything else.
iSync used to be used for iPod syncing beyond music. Now it's seemingly entirely unused. An odd decision, yes.
They could repurpose some of the buttons on the device if the screen is currently off. Leave the on/off button doing it's current function ('waking' the screen), and change the home button to play/pause, push-and-hold on the volume up/down changes track, instead of making the volume repeatedly go up.
Er, at least I think the iPhone has a volume control on it. I know the iPod Touch 2G does, and I'd love this to be done for it's controls...
Small ISP. 400 customers. I doubt downloading things from HTTP mirrors is causing the issue. Sounds like few people running high amounts of P2P traffic (math in another post says 6 people running "at capacity" will stuff the network).
Even up here in Canada, without any real threat so far, I've taken to only allowing connections from encrypted peers - partly due to ISP filtering slowing down all downloads, even legitimate ones (Linux distro ISOs). I suggest everyone gets a recent torrent client (such as Transmission on OSX) and allow only encrypted peers.
There is still no evidence of the existence of this mythical "chip". Please provide a link to a disassembly discussion that shows the existence of the chip (the one picture of the disassembled headphone assembly I've seen shows no such thing).