>people are led astray to believe that Linux is the only free and powerful os in existence That's why it's popular.
Wrong. Linux is popular be cause people care about in ways they've never cared about the BSD's. People who are Linux users are more than willing to take on the Windows-focused trade rags that laughingly say they are focused on "General Interest Computer Issues" and the editors and so-called "tech writers" which make up their staffs, along with the Mindcraft's of the computer industry. How many of the BSD'ers are willing to do the same thing? If past history any indication, not that damn many. In other words the BSD crowd for the most part seems to like to talk the talk, but aren't really willing to walk the walk.
>Do you all genuinely think that we dismiss fiascos like this with an >airy wave of the hand?
Sure you clowns do. Otherwise why would this kind of stuff still be going on *YEARS* after Office and the rest of your shoddy crap has been released and these problems exposed? The problem is that you people just don't give a shit.
>I could easily write a perl script that would delete a users $HOME directory.
With the Windows port of Perl most likey so if Windows had $HOME directorys. With the Linux/Unix/BSD Perl ports? Not so fast. How would you get the Perl script to obtain the root privages it would need to delete the users's $HOME directory if you don't have root acess?
>If Linux had 90% of the market, there would be PLENTY of viruses
And 99% of these Virus wouldn't work at all due to the fact most Unix/Linux/BSD users do not operate their systems as the root user, and the remaining 1% wouldn't cause the kind of hardcore damage that we're becoming used to seeing with the new generation of virus that run on Microsoft-based OS's.
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The TCI dealThe TCI deal by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @01:42PM EDT >The FCC told ATT that it must open its pipes >when ATT was buying TCI. ATT's reply was if >we have to open up then we will walk away >from then deal. In an effort to have compition in >the local telephone markets the FCC aggreed >not to force ATT to open up its pipes. I believe t>his was written into the contract, I am not sure. > >This judge does not have the juristiction to >make this ruling, ATT was given permission to >close its pipes by the FCC. The ruling will be >overturned.
Sorry no.. The FCC issue has little or nothing to do with this case. It's basically an issue of local cable regulation.
Do us all a favor and actually read the court case next time, ok?
>Any attempt at balkanizing Linux will kill RedHat's longterm viability
Bullshit. The only attempts at balkanizing Linux is pretty much comming from the Slackware crowd these days and not RedHat.
These are the people who are insisting on using things that's outdated or the rest of the linux dists have pretty much abandoned. Who is it who whine the loudest about people using the RPM or Deb package formats for instance? Do I feel sorry for them? NO. Noboby's telling the Slackware users that they can't use either of these formats or the libs the other dists are choosing to use. They've choosen not to and now have to live with the results of their decision. The blame falls squarely on their shoulders and they had better learn to deal with it instead of running around and blaming everybody else who's choosen to move on to better approaches to things than what say Slackware is using.
>Oh super. So we'll end up with a symlink-riddled filesystem like >latter versions of Solaris
Only if you Slackware Users choose not to get your act together and adopt the things everybody else is using. If you guys don't want to, then quit bitching.
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>Why must our community slash and burn those who point out deficiencies?
How about the fact that 99.999% of them are people like you, mircosoft-employed trolls who are trying to do to linux what you bastards did to OS/2 on Fidonet and the rest of the bbs networks by planting false horror stories about how "difficult" they found Linux to install? Your *ENTIRE* post is a perfect example of this. Do yourself a favor and report back to the morons at the MS PR firm that hired you that their *latest* attempt at anti-linux FUD is yet another failure that they can add to their already long list.
>... slow as a dog and a memory pig. It's wonderful for >students,teenagers, and other idle hands, but not much of a solution >for doingreal work. As such, I'm glad to see it's influence leave RedHat.
You got it. The fact that it looks like 99% of Enlightenment supporters tend to hang out on IRC should tell you something about it right there. It's something for the "wannabe set" to play with. I got tired of this kind of stuff during my Amiga days real fast. Sure it's fun to play with for about a month or two, but then it gets old real fast.
Yeah documents and config files written in plain text and easily readable are such a pain, aren't they? Using software to convert HTML and XML back into human-readable plain text is really the way to go. NOT.
You E fans really amaze me. You're acting like this whole thing is something new. It's *NOT*. Amiga users went though the exact same thing concering the "Magic User Interface". Basically MUI split the Amiga camp into two factions also. One faction was was the bunch who it seemed the only thing they did was code and run demo's all the time on their Amiga's and the other faction consisted of Amiga usrs who really didn't care all that much for that kind of stuff. I know. I was one of the Amiga users who didn't give a hoot about the demo scene or MUI either...
Looks like history's repeating itself all over again, eh?
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>But regular folks get driven away by the reek of cultishness.
Don't you mean the Microsoft PR flacks like yourself who are upset over the fact that you can't spread your venom here without getting nailed for it as you could concering OS/2 and other systems, and are in fact the ones being driven away?
>i want to spend more time coding new things than trying to figure out why the outdated old things are broken.
Here,Here. I have to laugh when reading some of the comments from the rabid Slackware users. Slackware was never as good as these guys claim it was. Actually the expression "pain-in-the-ass" describes Slackware a hell of a lot better. Like a lot of Redhat users who jumped ship, Slackware was the 1st linux dist I used, and was overjoyed when RedHat appeared on the scene. I ditched Slackware and have never looked back.
Bzzzzt. Wrong. Take a look at the platforms where the most interesting game devlopment is happing these days. It's not on the PC kiddo. The future of games lies with machines from Nintendo,Sega and Sony, not the PC. I haven't bother with playing games on my PC ever since I got my PlayStation a while back. The interest just isn't there anymore.
>I'm only going to use linux when there is an Outlook available.
Then you won't be using linux because a lot of people who use linux like myself have absolutely no use for Outlook and get along perfectly fine without it. The interest for an Outlook clone that runs under linux just isn't there, mostly because Outlook is a really shitty piece of software. In other words who cares if you don't want to use linux? Nobody really.
>Microsoft knows Linux is not a company. It's a bunch of employees stealing company time to work on stuff they think is "cool" brings in no revenue whatsoever, and may be aiding the competition.
How is someone working on "Linux Code" at home or their lunch hour stealing company time as you put it?
It really looks like the doctor dropped you on your head a couple of times when you were born...
>He doesn't want to release any of the Star Wars (4-6) movies on DVD until all the Star Wars prequels (1-3) are done.
I can see his point. Why would he want to go through the hassle of releasing Star Wars (4-6) on DVD when Star Wars (1-3) aren't done yet? You'ld be missing an very important part of the story line. Besides DVD or Divx isn't all that it's cracked up to be anyway. This could also be what Lucas is saying......
>Linux' 15 minutes of fame are up. It's time to get serious
You wish. Linux's future is only beginning. NT's "15 minutes of fame" as you put it is what's up. Take a look around you. Nobody's talking about NT dominating anything anymore. Take a look at what the school kids are running on their home machines. It's *NOT* NT. As they enter college they will bring their Linux/Unix knowlege with them. The only reason NT really got a foot in the door was that people was pretty much only familar with Windows back in the early-mid 90's. This is what is changing and why pro-microsoft people like yourself are yesterday's news. Get over it.
>These people haven't a clue what they are benchmarking.
Of course they don't. The people who really know their stuff when it comes to computers wouldn't be caught dead working at places like PC Week. You might've found them working on the staff of the old COMPUTE! or Byte magazines when they really did cover multiple platforms like the Atari,Commodore,Apple machines and PC clones. That kind of knowlege just doesn't exist anymore in today's computer magazines. Just take a look at what's on the magazine racks of your local bookstore or K/Walmart and compare it to what was on those very same shelves 5-10 years ago. It's really quite sad actually.
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>Looking at the Changelog, it seems that the real news here is: Centaur C6 MCRs now supported. Does that deserve a Slashdot article? I think not.
Of course you Mircosoft flacks would think this because posting a "bunch of kernel updates" as you losers express it on Slashdot exposes the lies (See the Mircosoft "Linux Challenge" WWW page for an example of this) that the Mircosoft PR department and it's allies try to spread about Linux for all the world to see.
>Remember, when something is open-sourced anybody can run with the algorhythms. SGI certainly knows this.
You don't actually think that SGI would be stupid enough put any of this code under a BSD-style licence do you? It most likey be either GPL or some variation of it in order to make sure that it won't be "borrowed" by certain people....
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>people are led astray to believe that Linux is the only free and powerful os in existence That's why it's popular.
Wrong. Linux is popular be cause people care about in ways they've never cared about the BSD's. People who are Linux users are more than willing to take on the Windows-focused trade rags that laughingly say they are focused on "General Interest Computer Issues" and the editors and so-called "tech writers" which make up their staffs, along with the Mindcraft's of the computer industry. How many of the BSD'ers are willing to do the same thing? If past history any indication, not that damn many. In other words the BSD crowd for the most part seems to like to talk the talk, but aren't really willing to walk the walk.
>Do you all genuinely think that we dismiss fiascos like this with an >airy wave of the hand?
Sure you clowns do. Otherwise why would this kind of stuff still be going on *YEARS* after Office and the rest of your shoddy crap has been released and these problems exposed? The problem is that you people just don't give a shit.
>The worm then searches the local file drive for the following file >types and deletes them: .c, .cpp, .asm, .doc, .sls, and .ptp,
Really looks like this thing could've been written by one of those former temps that Microsoft tried to screw over doesn't it?
After all revenge is a dish best servered cold....
>I could easily write a perl script that would delete a users $HOME directory.
With the Windows port of Perl most likey so if Windows had $HOME directorys. With the Linux/Unix/BSD Perl ports? Not so fast. How would you get the Perl script to obtain the root privages it would need to delete the users's $HOME directory if you don't have root acess?
>If Linux had 90% of the market, there would be PLENTY of viruses
And 99% of these Virus wouldn't work at all due to the fact most Unix/Linux/BSD users do not operate their systems as the root user, and the remaining 1% wouldn't cause the kind of hardcore damage that we're becoming used to seeing with the new generation of virus that run on Microsoft-based OS's.
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>The FCC told ATT that it must open its pipes >when ATT was buying TCI. ATT's reply was if >we have to open up then we will walk away >from then deal. In an effort to have compition in >the local telephone markets the FCC aggreed >not to force ATT to open up its pipes. I believe t>his was written into the contract, I am not sure.
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>This judge does not have the juristiction to >make this ruling, ATT was given permission to >close its pipes by the FCC. The ruling will be >overturned.
Sorry no.. The FCC issue has little or nothing to do with this case. It's basically an issue of local cable regulation.
Do us all a favor and actually read the court case next time, ok?
>Any attempt at balkanizing Linux will kill RedHat's longterm viability
Bullshit. The only attempts at balkanizing Linux is pretty much comming from the Slackware crowd these days and not RedHat.
These are the people who are insisting on using things that's outdated or the rest of the linux dists have pretty much abandoned. Who is it who whine the loudest about people using the RPM or Deb package formats for instance? Do I feel sorry for them? NO. Noboby's telling the Slackware users that they can't use either of these formats or the libs the other dists are choosing to use. They've choosen not to and now have to live with the results of their decision. The blame falls squarely on their shoulders and they had better learn to deal with it instead of running around and blaming everybody else who's choosen to move on to better approaches to things than what say Slackware is using.
>Oh super. So we'll end up with a symlink-riddled filesystem like >latter versions of Solaris
Only if you Slackware Users choose not to get your act together and adopt the things everybody else is using. If you guys don't want to, then quit bitching.
>Why must our community slash and burn those who point out deficiencies?
How about the fact that 99.999% of them are people like you, mircosoft-employed trolls who are trying to do to linux what you bastards did to OS/2 on Fidonet and the rest of the bbs networks by planting false horror stories about how "difficult" they found Linux to install? Your *ENTIRE* post is a perfect example of this. Do yourself a favor and report back to the morons at the MS PR firm that hired you that their *latest* attempt at anti-linux FUD is yet another failure that they can add to their already long list.
> Will Redhat stick with FVWM as their default wm?
Maybe something more like Afterstep if they don't decide to improve the look of FVWM.
>... slow as a dog and a memory pig. It's wonderful for >students,teenagers, and other idle hands, but not much of a solution >for doingreal work. As such, I'm glad to see it's influence leave RedHat.
You got it. The fact that it looks like 99% of Enlightenment supporters tend to hang out on IRC should tell you something about it right there. It's something for the "wannabe set" to play with. I got tired of this kind of stuff during my Amiga days real fast. Sure it's fun to play with for about a month or two, but then it gets old real fast.
>Linux apps should start using XML.
Yeah documents and config files written in plain text and easily readable are such a pain, aren't they? Using software to convert HTML and XML back into human-readable plain text is really the way to go. NOT.
You E fans really amaze me. You're acting like
this whole thing is something new. It's *NOT*.
Amiga users went though the exact same thing
concering the "Magic User Interface". Basically
MUI split the Amiga camp into two factions also.
One faction was was the bunch who it seemed the
only thing they did was code and run demo's all the time
on their Amiga's and the other faction consisted
of Amiga usrs who really didn't care all that much
for that kind of stuff. I know. I was one of the
Amiga users who didn't give a hoot about the
demo scene or MUI either...
Looks like history's repeating itself all over
again, eh?
>But regular folks get driven away by the reek of cultishness.
Don't you mean the Microsoft PR flacks like yourself who are upset over the fact that you can't spread your venom here without getting nailed for it as you could concering OS/2 and other systems, and are in fact the ones being driven away?
Rot in hell.
>> 2) What happens to the object when the warp bubble collapses?
If it relies on a Microsoft-based technology, the object goes ***BOOM**** when the warp bubble collapses...
>Sounds like things are really starting to get going for IBM, Linux and everyone else
Looks like MickySoft's Anti-Linux group *really* has it's work cut out for it now, doesn't it?
>i want to spend more time coding new things than trying to figure out why the outdated old things are broken.
Here,Here. I have to laugh when reading some of the comments from the rabid Slackware users. Slackware was never as good as these guys claim it was. Actually the expression "pain-in-the-ass" describes Slackware a hell of a lot better. Like a lot of Redhat users who jumped ship, Slackware was the 1st linux dist I used, and was overjoyed when RedHat appeared on the scene. I ditched Slackware and have never looked back.
>Cheap, easy, and fun training: GAMES.
Bzzzzt. Wrong. Take a look at the platforms where the most interesting game devlopment is happing these days. It's not on the PC kiddo. The future of games lies with machines from Nintendo,Sega and Sony, not the PC. I haven't bother with playing games on my PC ever since I got my PlayStation a while back. The interest just isn't there anymore.
>I'm only going to use linux when there is an Outlook available.
Then you won't be using linux because a lot of people who use linux like myself have absolutely no use for Outlook and get along perfectly fine without it. The interest for an Outlook clone that runs under linux just isn't there, mostly because Outlook is a really shitty piece of software. In other words who cares if you don't want to use linux? Nobody really.
>Microsoft knows Linux is not a company. It's a bunch of employees stealing company time to work on stuff they think is "cool" brings in no revenue whatsoever, and may be aiding the competition.
How is someone working on "Linux Code" at home or their lunch hour stealing company time as you put it?
It really looks like the doctor dropped you on your head a couple of times when you were born...
>He doesn't want to release any of the Star Wars (4-6) movies on DVD until all the Star Wars prequels (1-3) are done.
I can see his point. Why would he want to go through the hassle of releasing Star Wars (4-6) on DVD when Star Wars (1-3) aren't done yet? You'ld be missing an very important part of the story line. Besides DVD or Divx isn't all that it's cracked up to be anyway. This could also be what Lucas is saying......
>Linux' 15 minutes of fame are up. It's time to get serious
You wish. Linux's future is only beginning. NT's "15 minutes of fame" as you put it is what's up. Take a look around you. Nobody's talking about NT dominating anything anymore. Take a look at what the school kids are running on their home machines. It's *NOT* NT. As they enter college they will bring their Linux/Unix knowlege with them. The only reason NT really got a foot in the door was that people was pretty much only familar with Windows back in the early-mid 90's. This is what is changing and why pro-microsoft people like yourself are yesterday's news. Get over it.
>These people haven't a clue what they are benchmarking.
Of course they don't. The people who really know their stuff when it comes to computers wouldn't be caught dead working at places like PC Week. You might've found them working on the staff of the old COMPUTE! or Byte magazines when they really did cover multiple platforms like the Atari,Commodore,Apple machines and PC clones. That kind of knowlege just doesn't exist anymore in today's computer magazines. Just take a look at what's on the magazine racks of your local bookstore or K/Walmart and compare it to what was on those very same shelves 5-10 years ago. It's really quite sad actually.
>Looking at the Changelog, it seems that the real news here is: Centaur C6 MCRs now supported. Does that deserve a Slashdot article? I think not.
Of course you Mircosoft flacks would think this because posting a "bunch of kernel updates" as you losers express it on Slashdot exposes the lies (See the Mircosoft "Linux Challenge" WWW page for an example of this) that the Mircosoft PR department and it's allies try to spread about Linux for all the world to see.
>Remember, when something is open-sourced anybody can run with the algorhythms. SGI certainly knows this.
You don't actually think that SGI would be stupid enough put any of this code under a BSD-style licence do you? It most likey be either GPL or some variation of it in order to make sure that it won't be "borrowed" by certain people....