There, fixed that for you. You somehow managed to make yourself look like an idiot and invoke Godwin's (note the possessive case) Law simultaneously. I'm impressed.
Leave it to Microsoft to make things complicated. All that time spent torturing those boxes, when all they had to do was apt-get install answers-devel. Sigh.
I don't know why people keep insisting that a machine intelligence would suffer from human emotional frailties. I grow weary of Skynet/Matrix fear mongering.
Yeah, just look at all those Linux and BSD boxes, crashing all the time. Good thing everyone uses almost nothing but Windows in their server farms these days.
Oh my God, we've got a graduate degree! A real, honest-to-goodness graduate degree! I stand in awe of your intellectual prowess. Let me rephrase my original question.
Would you care to utilize your superior intellect in making the case for its falsity?
I use different distros for different tasks, because the distros themselves place different weights of importance on various factors.
For years, my servers have run on Debian plus the odd BSD box here and there. Rock solid reliability with very little maintenance overhead, but you don't get the latest and greatest stuff in the repositories.
I've got a couple of servers running Ubuntu with VMware Server on top for internal VPS work. Again, very few problems aside from a couple of issues related to kernel upgrades.
My laptop runs Ubuntu Desktop edition, which works great for me. I have almost no trouble with package management, even for cutting edge stuff, and the driver support is great.
I use a couple of live CD distros for repairing Windows systems when they get out of whack. The list goes on and on. It's kinda like programming languages; use the right tool for the job. While you *could* use most modern languages for just about any task, some are better for "X job" than others.
Oh Em Gee! College students built a radio?!? What a surprise. What is the world coming to when some news article thinks building a radio is amazing. Is everybody that stupid?
It's a sign of a dying era. These days, everyone gets all worked up over "wireless Internet technologies," without having the slightest clue about the 150 years of radio history behind it. I'm lucky to be 28 years old and know a fair bit about the topic; this is partly because my father is an AT&T engineer, and partly because comms are my job in the Navy. Today's college kids don't get nearly the education in applied sciences they used to.
As it stands there is nothing to make them release the source code to drivers they have written.
I don't think you get it. You consider "freedom" to be the ability to force other people to release their own code under terms you find favorable? Wow, dude. That's awesome.
You're still free to download any BSD distribution you like, in its entirety, and do whatever you please with it. Stop whining about the fact that the developers of that codebase made a personal decision that they don't care what others do with their code. What's that, you feel you have the right to make that decision for them? Wow.
Look, if it doesn't make sense to you, you obviously haven't had enough to drink. Have three more shots, wait fifteen minutes, and read the article again.
I didn't imply EEE with my post, only "E." Why do people continue to attach ulterior motives to that post? Can I please have something taken in a purely literal sense for once?
As you'll note from my previous reply, I take no issue whatsoever with Microsoft using a BSD base for a product. I hope you didn't infer that from my GP post.
Look, BSD licensing allows the end user to do whatever their want with the code in question, as long as they follow the attribution requirements outlined in the licensing. How can you possibly make code more free than that?
Yes, I'm posting this from an Ubuntu laptop, while performing maintenance on a couple of Debian servers, and poking around at a CentOS server running several variants of Linux in virtual machines. So, yeah, I enjoy using GPL products. It doesn't mean the GPL bestows more freedoms on the end user, as it certainly contains more constraints than BSD licensing.
It might be "embrace", but you can't do any more than "extend" there.
This is actually one of the things I admire about developers in a position to release their code under BSD licenses. The end user is free to do anything they please with the code, including rolling it into a proprietary product, as long as they follow the attribution requirements. As for myself, most of my public code is licensed under the GPL, for various reasons (some being financially related). No one can reasonably argue that BSD-licensed code isn't truly free.
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Why not? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm asking you to present a comprehensive case for wide-scale conversation that includes such practices as a critical path to the survival of our own species. I have yet to see such a work, and I've looked for a very long time.
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There, fixed that for you. Grammer Nazis suck!
There, fixed that for you. You somehow managed to make yourself look like an idiot and invoke Godwin's (note the possessive case) Law simultaneously. I'm impressed.
You just made my day.
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Leave it to Microsoft to make things complicated. All that time spent torturing those boxes, when all they had to do was apt-get install answers-devel. Sigh.
I don't know why people keep insisting that a machine intelligence would suffer from human emotional frailties. I grow weary of Skynet/Matrix fear mongering.
Yeah, just look at all those Linux and BSD boxes, crashing all the time. Good thing everyone uses almost nothing but Windows in their server farms these days.
Oh my God, we've got a graduate degree! A real, honest-to-goodness graduate degree! I stand in awe of your intellectual prowess. Let me rephrase my original question.
Would you care to utilize your superior intellect in making the case for its falsity?
Sometimes I really, really wish I had access to Slashdot's server logs. I suggest you start a personal advice column.
Care to state your case for its falsity?
I use different distros for different tasks, because the distros themselves place different weights of importance on various factors.
For years, my servers have run on Debian plus the odd BSD box here and there. Rock solid reliability with very little maintenance overhead, but you don't get the latest and greatest stuff in the repositories.
I've got a couple of servers running Ubuntu with VMware Server on top for internal VPS work. Again, very few problems aside from a couple of issues related to kernel upgrades.
My laptop runs Ubuntu Desktop edition, which works great for me. I have almost no trouble with package management, even for cutting edge stuff, and the driver support is great.
I use a couple of live CD distros for repairing Windows systems when they get out of whack. The list goes on and on. It's kinda like programming languages; use the right tool for the job. While you *could* use most modern languages for just about any task, some are better for "X job" than others.
Only on Slashdot will you see a comment on BSD licensing, in a story about NetBSD, get modded offtopic. All hail the glorious GPL, I guess.
Video killed the radio star. It's sad, but true.
Oh Em Gee! College students built a radio?!? What a surprise. What is the world coming to when some news article thinks building a radio is amazing. Is everybody that stupid?
It's a sign of a dying era. These days, everyone gets all worked up over "wireless Internet technologies," without having the slightest clue about the 150 years of radio history behind it. I'm lucky to be 28 years old and know a fair bit about the topic; this is partly because my father is an AT&T engineer, and partly because comms are my job in the Navy. Today's college kids don't get nearly the education in applied sciences they used to.
You're right, none at all. Until you decide to change the code and redistribute it. Oops.
I personally think it would be nice if everything was completely open, but I think that's the kind of utopic vision the world is not ready for.
I wish for the same thing, and look forward to the day when economic scarcity is no longer human concern.
As it stands there is nothing to make them release the source code to drivers they have written.
I don't think you get it. You consider "freedom" to be the ability to force other people to release their own code under terms you find favorable? Wow, dude. That's awesome.
You're still free to download any BSD distribution you like, in its entirety, and do whatever you please with it. Stop whining about the fact that the developers of that codebase made a personal decision that they don't care what others do with their code. What's that, you feel you have the right to make that decision for them? Wow.
Look, if it doesn't make sense to you, you obviously haven't had enough to drink. Have three more shots, wait fifteen minutes, and read the article again.
I am in awe of your culinary browning device. My sonic toothbrush years for the day its pulses may be measured in megahertz.
I didn't imply EEE with my post, only "E." Why do people continue to attach ulterior motives to that post? Can I please have something taken in a purely literal sense for once?
As you'll note from my previous reply, I take no issue whatsoever with Microsoft using a BSD base for a product. I hope you didn't infer that from my GP post.
Dear Lord, thank you. A post on Slashdot that mirrors the easily understandable fact that BSD licensed code is, in fact, free.
Look, BSD licensing allows the end user to do whatever their want with the code in question, as long as they follow the attribution requirements outlined in the licensing. How can you possibly make code more free than that?
Yes, I'm posting this from an Ubuntu laptop, while performing maintenance on a couple of Debian servers, and poking around at a CentOS server running several variants of Linux in virtual machines. So, yeah, I enjoy using GPL products. It doesn't mean the GPL bestows more freedoms on the end user, as it certainly contains more constraints than BSD licensing.
It might be "embrace", but you can't do any more than "extend" there.
This is actually one of the things I admire about developers in a position to release their code under BSD licenses. The end user is free to do anything they please with the code, including rolling it into a proprietary product, as long as they follow the attribution requirements. As for myself, most of my public code is licensed under the GPL, for various reasons (some being financially related). No one can reasonably argue that BSD-licensed code isn't truly free.
This isn't exactly the first time Microsoft has leveraged BSD code in a product... cough, TCP stack, cough...
Shiny happy paper printing
Shiny happy paper in my tray
Shiny happy paper in my tray
Everyone around
Print it, print it
Print it on my can
Takes no time to dry
Eco, friendly
Saving all that cash
Profit, profit
Saving the planet
Where the CEO smiles
Laserjet just frowns
With apologies to R.E.M.
Why not? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm asking you to present a comprehensive case for wide-scale conversation that includes such practices as a critical path to the survival of our own species. I have yet to see such a work, and I've looked for a very long time.