Assuming your retelling to be truthful then these people were probably not Christians, you understand that right?
i love the 'if people who call themselves christians do something that seems [fill in bad thing here] they are not [real] christians.' argument.
you're logic is a tad faulty. you're assuming christian == moral/ethical. it doesn't.
christian == someone who believes in jesus christ as the son of god incarnate. generally christians also believe in the resurrection, but not always.
some christians are ethical, some aren't. if a priest molests, he's an unethical christian. you don't get a free pass b/c you conflate belief in an avatar with being an ethical person.
hey palegray, thanks for posting those dns servers. i was about to comment that i've had the same experience as the earthlink guy, and just today i thought--after running a speed test--that it must be DNS. and then you go ahead and post these IPs! i replaced the BS earthlink ones (an old job had earthlink as a backup and i noticed their dns sucked then, too), and *bam*: success.
from what i gathered, they were protesting his visit not because he's the pope, but for his stance in attempting to justify the inquisition's treatment of galileo--one of their own.
i find it curious how many people reply as if breaking the law is 'wrong' a priori.
it seems to me that underage drinking can be stupid, but it's not wrong in and of itself. someone can do wrong while intoxicated, but it isn't the drinking that causes it. it's bad judgement. punishing kids for imitating the socially acceptable partying habits of people ~5-6 years their senior seems pretty hypcritical.
if the kids drove cars around, that's another story. but the 'wrong' would be having driven while intoxicated which actually endangers others' lives. but photos of kids being stupid to impress their friends?
laws obeyed for the sake of obeying a law doesn't reveal anything about the moral maturity or ethical reasoning of a person. in fact, it reveals that one is a moral midget who follows rules for their own sake.
kids do stupid things; adults do stupid things. hopefully we learn from them. when that stupid thing trespasses another's wishes it becomes a moral issue.
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and he probably meant: 'he could HAVE meant...' i don't know what 'could of' means. (btw, i don't know why it sa
Assuming your retelling to be truthful then these people were probably not Christians, you understand that right?
i love the 'if people who call themselves christians do something that seems [fill in bad thing here] they are not [real] christians.' argument.
you're logic is a tad faulty. you're assuming christian == moral/ethical. it doesn't.
christian == someone who believes in jesus christ as the son of god incarnate. generally christians also believe in the resurrection, but not always.
some christians are ethical, some aren't. if a priest molests, he's an unethical christian. you don't get a free pass b/c you conflate belief in an avatar with being an ethical person.
did you draw those? c'mon, tell the truth.
hey palegray, thanks for posting those dns servers. i was about to comment that i've had the same experience as the earthlink guy, and just today i thought--after running a speed test--that it must be DNS. and then you go ahead and post these IPs! i replaced the BS earthlink ones (an old job had earthlink as a backup and i noticed their dns sucked then, too), and *bam*: success.
true dat. unless they just wanted to bring light to his position on galileo rather than have the visit cancelled.
from what i gathered, they were protesting his visit not because he's the pope, but for his stance in attempting to justify the inquisition's treatment of galileo--one of their own.
i find it curious how many people reply as if breaking the law is 'wrong' a priori.
it seems to me that underage drinking can be stupid, but it's not wrong in and of itself. someone can do wrong while intoxicated, but it isn't the drinking that causes it. it's bad judgement. punishing kids for imitating the socially acceptable partying habits of people ~5-6 years their senior seems pretty hypcritical.
if the kids drove cars around, that's another story. but the 'wrong' would be having driven while intoxicated which actually endangers others' lives. but photos of kids being stupid to impress their friends?
laws obeyed for the sake of obeying a law doesn't reveal anything about the moral maturity or ethical reasoning of a person. in fact, it reveals that one is a moral midget who follows rules for their own sake.
kids do stupid things; adults do stupid things. hopefully we learn from them. when that stupid thing trespasses another's wishes it becomes a moral issue.