A little over-sensitive, are we? Perhaps you should file a complaint with the Human Rights Commission.
Media sources (US or otherwise) can't be relied on to actually do their fact-checking and report the realistic truth without sensationalizing. Now, in the case of Canadian laws being proposed, you are equipped to be effectively skeptical. No need to take it as a personal attack.
And for the record, while posters on internet forums might talk shit about how fucked up the US is, countries and governments, especially Canada, not so much.
That may be (or I guess, that is) but the fact remains that you can find what you want by ignoring the ads. I haven't had a paper phone book delivered to my place in at least three years, and now that I'm thinking about it, I actually don't have one. Without the internet, I couldn't call anyone from my home unless I already had their number plugged into my phone, or I was willing to pay a dollar for the operator to look up the number.
The thing about "the average" is that there is still a lot of overlap, so that it only really applies to populations, not individuals in most circumstances. While this may translate into (for example) a higher proportion of black sprinters at the elite level, race can't be used to predict who will be the best players at a pickup basketball game. It'll be the people who are there every day, regardless of what colour they are.
Yes, it does happen. I wasn't arguing that point, I was trying to point out that race isn't a deciding factor in whether you can be good at programming or basketball or pretty much anything else.
What playing the race card is going on? He is a programmer, presumably employed and capable. Nobody is using race as any kind of excuse for anything in this case, just pointing out that racial profiling exists in the industry and is a part of his career, not a crutch.
So you're saying that Haitian programmers don't count for the sake of this article? Do they not count as black programmers, or not as programmers at all, or what?
Except that it SPECIFICALLY refers to black people in the US, Canada and Australia, regardless of whether they have a background of slavery.
Not only not all american, but not all african either. African American is PC all the time, and is plain incorrect sometimes, which is something people who don't RTFA don't seem to understand.
You don't hear anyone complaining that a lot of basketball teams are mostly (or at least disproportionately African-American). Chances are its that way because they have the most talent and not cause the coach hates whites.
I don't think the argument that black people are inherently better at basketball is any more reasonable than the argument that white (or japanese) people are inherently better programs. Both come down to socioeconomic influences. A large number of black kids grow up in housing projects where "parks" are basically basketball courts, which are cheap for the govt to provide, and all they need to buy is a ball, so it provides cheap entertainment for lower income kids. That also snowballs because kids are influence by the media, and nearly all successful black poeple on TV or in the press are athletes and entertainers.
The video game discrepancy can be explained very similarly. Perhaps instead of giving the % population that is black, they should give the % of the population with the required level of education who is black. I'm sure that'd cut a huge chunk out the demographic gap.
This article doesn't really present any new info, it just puts a new angle (video game development) on an old topic (socioeconomics and race).
I don't know about you, but I usually notice people hyphenating their own nationalism. Whoever is speaking tends to have their own simpler idea of their identity, it's those "other" people who are hyphenated.
Supposing I don't want their "gift"? I'm sick of crap from corporations filling up my mailbox. I've have utility bills and bank statements not arrive because my mailbox was stuffed with promotional crap I didn't want (I know this because when I finally got it, it had "mailbox too full" written on it by the postwoman). What if I want to sell the promo CD on eBay to make up for the late payment charges incurred on my heating bill because their unwanted "gift" was in the way of my use of my own mailbox? Good manners apply to humans, not corporations who disrespect you.
This. Just because they send you a unsolicited demo CD, software CD, whatever, doesn't mean that you can just go violate copyright by setting up a duplication line to sell copies of the CD. They just can't go after you for the CD. Well, they can try to annoy you with letters to send it back or pay for it, but you're under no legal obligation. For those who didn't RTFA, the guy simply resells the promo discs. Not digital copies, not burned CD-Rs, but actual promo discs that were sent to him in the mail. According to the USPS link that has been posted many times, those discs are his, because he never asked for them. UMG is claiming that they were transferred or loaned or some other such thing, but of course no loan ever happens without somebody asking for it first, or at least agreeing to it. UMG is basically trying to say "By looking in your mailbox, you agree to the terms dictated by our sticker."
I think the point is that though many people don't like the Top 40 nonsense, myself included, the rest of us just don't listen to it and don't complain about it.
We found a solar system that is kinda, sorta like ours in two of the planets, and we are "on the brink" of discovering more. Get the space RVs warmed up!
"We can't ask firms to not try to make a profit... that's communism!"
I don't think we need to worry about Walmart making profits. As was stated, they use the cheap CDs to get people into the store. If people drawn to the store by cheap music didn't end up spending on other things, I'm sure CD prices would go up (except Walmart doesn't generally raise prices, so CDs would just disappear). Regardless, it's not the public that made the decision, it was part of a marketing plan by Walmart, and communism has nothing to do with it.
If you were joking, I'm an idiot.
We can't all be rock stars. The bands who can't create something that people are willing to pay for will either fade away, or do it because they want to, which is the way it should be, anyway.
You seem to be getting into opinion at this point. You say that anything definable by religion doesn't matter, but it does matter to those who believe in it. If they believe that their actions and beliefs today affect what happens after they die, then it does matter to them. Of course, if they're right, then it matters to everybody, but that part, I'll agree, is irrelevant to us because it's unknowable. The point is that why should you or anybody else care what others believe as long as they do no harm and trust in science to explain the observable?
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A little over-sensitive, are we? Perhaps you should file a complaint with the Human Rights Commission. Media sources (US or otherwise) can't be relied on to actually do their fact-checking and report the realistic truth without sensationalizing. Now, in the case of Canadian laws being proposed, you are equipped to be effectively skeptical. No need to take it as a personal attack. And for the record, while posters on internet forums might talk shit about how fucked up the US is, countries and governments, especially Canada, not so much.
Except that it's not the same policy at all, since the thief in your analogy could still go to any other store.
You certainly wouldn't be able to keep him out of all stores, just your own.
That may be (or I guess, that is) but the fact remains that you can find what you want by ignoring the ads. I haven't had a paper phone book delivered to my place in at least three years, and now that I'm thinking about it, I actually don't have one. Without the internet, I couldn't call anyone from my home unless I already had their number plugged into my phone, or I was willing to pay a dollar for the operator to look up the number.
The thing about "the average" is that there is still a lot of overlap, so that it only really applies to populations, not individuals in most circumstances. While this may translate into (for example) a higher proportion of black sprinters at the elite level, race can't be used to predict who will be the best players at a pickup basketball game. It'll be the people who are there every day, regardless of what colour they are.
Yes, it does happen. I wasn't arguing that point, I was trying to point out that race isn't a deciding factor in whether you can be good at programming or basketball or pretty much anything else.
What continent is the USA on? Any other countries on that same continent? Any other continents with "America" in the name?
What playing the race card is going on? He is a programmer, presumably employed and capable. Nobody is using race as any kind of excuse for anything in this case, just pointing out that racial profiling exists in the industry and is a part of his career, not a crutch.
So you're saying that Haitian programmers don't count for the sake of this article? Do they not count as black programmers, or not as programmers at all, or what?
Except that it SPECIFICALLY refers to black people in the US, Canada and Australia, regardless of whether they have a background of slavery. Not only not all american, but not all african either. African American is PC all the time, and is plain incorrect sometimes, which is something people who don't RTFA don't seem to understand.
I don't think the argument that black people are inherently better at basketball is any more reasonable than the argument that white (or japanese) people are inherently better programs. Both come down to socioeconomic influences. A large number of black kids grow up in housing projects where "parks" are basically basketball courts, which are cheap for the govt to provide, and all they need to buy is a ball, so it provides cheap entertainment for lower income kids. That also snowballs because kids are influence by the media, and nearly all successful black poeple on TV or in the press are athletes and entertainers.
The video game discrepancy can be explained very similarly. Perhaps instead of giving the % population that is black, they should give the % of the population with the required level of education who is black. I'm sure that'd cut a huge chunk out the demographic gap.
This article doesn't really present any new info, it just puts a new angle (video game development) on an old topic (socioeconomics and race).
Damn. Usually don't notice people hyphenating themselves.
I don't know about you, but I usually notice people hyphenating their own nationalism. Whoever is speaking tends to have their own simpler idea of their identity, it's those "other" people who are hyphenated.
Supposing I don't want their "gift"? I'm sick of crap from corporations filling up my mailbox. I've have utility bills and bank statements not arrive because my mailbox was stuffed with promotional crap I didn't want (I know this because when I finally got it, it had "mailbox too full" written on it by the postwoman). What if I want to sell the promo CD on eBay to make up for the late payment charges incurred on my heating bill because their unwanted "gift" was in the way of my use of my own mailbox? Good manners apply to humans, not corporations who disrespect you.
For those who didn't RTFA, the guy simply resells the promo discs. Not digital copies, not burned CD-Rs, but actual promo discs that were sent to him in the mail. According to the USPS link that has been posted many times, those discs are his, because he never asked for them. UMG is claiming that they were transferred or loaned or some other such thing, but of course no loan ever happens without somebody asking for it first, or at least agreeing to it. UMG is basically trying to say "By looking in your mailbox, you agree to the terms dictated by our sticker."
You're suggesting that there's something wrong with people because they don't bother firing guns to see what they sound like?
Yeah, but how do you convince people they need to buy those from you?
I think the point is that though many people don't like the Top 40 nonsense, myself included, the rest of us just don't listen to it and don't complain about it.
You don't have to count them every time. Just when something like this comes up, or maybe take random samples.
We found a solar system that is kinda, sorta like ours in two of the planets, and we are "on the brink" of discovering more. Get the space RVs warmed up!
"We can't ask firms to not try to make a profit... that's communism!" I don't think we need to worry about Walmart making profits. As was stated, they use the cheap CDs to get people into the store. If people drawn to the store by cheap music didn't end up spending on other things, I'm sure CD prices would go up (except Walmart doesn't generally raise prices, so CDs would just disappear). Regardless, it's not the public that made the decision, it was part of a marketing plan by Walmart, and communism has nothing to do with it. If you were joking, I'm an idiot.
We can't all be rock stars. The bands who can't create something that people are willing to pay for will either fade away, or do it because they want to, which is the way it should be, anyway.
Are you trying to get through to people, or just to "win" and show the world how smart you are?
You seem to be getting into opinion at this point. You say that anything definable by religion doesn't matter, but it does matter to those who believe in it. If they believe that their actions and beliefs today affect what happens after they die, then it does matter to them. Of course, if they're right, then it matters to everybody, but that part, I'll agree, is irrelevant to us because it's unknowable. The point is that why should you or anybody else care what others believe as long as they do no harm and trust in science to explain the observable?