> I don't have time to tinker with everything in my PC.
Then there's no problem.
Clearly you have no times for games either.
Steam is specifically meant to waste a lot of your time. That's what it was built for. If you don't have time to install it, then you don't have the time to use it either.
So you see the situation solves itself.
Spending hours and hours playing TF2 versus futzing with the installer for a bit. No comparison really.
> It should just work. Do the same thing on a windows 7 system,...and you will be lucky if it works.
As always, the propaganda about how well Windows works simply cannot be trusted. When you try this stuff out for yourself you realize that it really isn't all that it is cracked up to be.
Although sometimes Windows just breaks and doesn't tell you. So you don't realize that it's broken. It just acts unpredictably or your performance goes to sh*t.
Commercial success? What commercial success? What makes you think that forking even more of their core system will actually lead to any sort of commercial success? If anything, they are just increasing their own burden.
Ubuntu does not represent "commercial success".
If I wanted to whine about commercial success like some "hippie", then I would whine about some other company.
Linux has always had a common set of core system APIs. Even things as dire as GNOME versus KDE still represented things that could happily co-exist within the same desktop user context.
There has always been a common "upstream", despite what trolls like you might want to make of the situation.
....except the phone already displaced all of that stuff.
That device is getting LARGER rather than smaller. That's being driven by the fact that a lot of people like MORE rather than less screen space. Until you crack that display size problem, you may have a problem convincing people to downsize their mobile devices.
The Dick Tracy types have been been proved wrong already. Get over it.
Songs and albums map quite naturally onto a filesystem. If you are more interested in albums, then a file system based approach is much more appealing since there is a nice 1:1 mapping there.
On the other hand, iTunes has more of a "play list" focused interface. It also has this strange inability to allow you to choose a single album.
I always found that part of iTunes bind bogglingly stupid.
It has some interesting "power use" features. As a "keep it simple for the n00bs" interface, it's rather laughable really.
Wolves are social and very heirarchical. It doesn't seem a very far stretch for a beta wolf to replace one alpha for another. In this regard, Wolves already seemed suited to be domesticated. No "extra adaptations" were required.
He's a geek who is in a good position to see what's coming on the horizon. He's not just a salesman. So of course he's likely to fixate on "the coming thing". He's like the rest of us that can imagine where things are going. Like many of us, he sees where we could be and is a little impatient.
> That's not what I wrote. I wrote: "the iPad created the concept of desirable device called a tablet, that was different from a big phone."
No it didn't. Pretty much the entire rest of the industry had similar alternatives. There was even an "iPad knockoff" released 6 months prior to the iPad. It was just released by a company that's not a media darling.
Apple hit on a good combination while being noticed.
Anything beyond that is mindless fanboy nonsense.
Immediately, there were disputes about what other varations might be useful. That which the iCult didn't approve of was immediately dismissed. That mindless tyrannical approach has now been proven wrong.
Are you kidding. It's the A users that are the ones that can actually tolerate this absurdly fast release cycle. They can tolerate it because they don't really do anything. So there is far less chance that any reversion will bugger them.
The B users are going to be f*cked up by this nonsense because they are trying to use everything and have all sorts of inter-dependencies. Reversions caused by too many versions too quickly will CLOBBER these "bread and butter" end users.
Profitable "Enterprise" users are the ones that like to cling to old versions because the cost of an outtage is too high.
> Quiet and small form factor conventional drives have a place in things like Tivos and personal recording devices for TV
Nonsense. TV, especially HD TV is big, VERY BIG. This is especially true for terrestrial broadcast and cable that's still using outdated codecs like MPEG2.
If you are talking about "things like Tivos", you need all of the space you can get. The "footprint" issue is not a problem. Neither is noise as such devices have thrived with large desktop style hard drives.
A Tivo can use all the space it can get. Laptop drives don't provide any value and actually limit functionality while being more expensive. They're a case of "pay more to get less".
> Microsoft has never been market leader in either phones or search.
Microsoft has been a desktop monopoly since before the first line of the Linux kernel was written. They are one of the largest corporations on the planet with enough market power and leverage to push their way into new markets easily.
In the market where Linux lives, simply not having been put out of business by Microsoft is remarkable. Apple is very unusual in this and nearly didn't make it. The corpses of companies that tried to offer competitive products liter the landscape.
...yes. Never mind the fact that Microsoft is a monopoly that chose to clone Word Perfect and force feed it to everyone. Corel's real problem was supporting Linux.
I went to comdex in my Loki t-shirt and got mistaken for a Loki employee. I went to a LUG meeting and people were flabbergasted that there were games for Linux. I have had to "beat the bushes" sometimes to find games for Linux.
Humble Bundles have benefited from being widely publicized without any real effort on the part of those running it. They have benefited from the same media effect that Apple enjoys. Steam is the same way.
They end up being a success even if the people making the games put no real effort in ensuring that their target demographic knows what's going on.
Something like Steam makes the games easy to find even for people not willing to go off looking for them like Odysseus.
The same goes for the Apple and Google "stores". It's not limited to Linux really.
Both platforms suffer from the problem of "paying their own way". You are a deluded fool to try and claim otherwise. MacOS is in the exact same boat as Linux here.
As far as this "compatibility" problem you're trying to manufacture goes: I still play my old Loki games.
It's packed like a jack-in-box with poor heat management even in a consumer environment. Pack them together like sardines and you're just making the situation worse. Beef up the components and you're just complicating the already piss-poor heat management.
These things are bad enough as a "home server". Nevermind cramming an absurd number of them into a rack.
The only reason that this is even an issue is the whole "monopoly" Apple has on running MacOS binaries. Otherwise, this would be an obvious candidate for virtualization or running on hardware that's actually designed for the operating environment.
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H1Bs aren't outsourcing though.
They are the creation of an underclass. From a basic fundemental political perspective, that is far worse than either outsourcing or automation.
Sending stuff to Mumbai sucks but it's better than creating an underclass here.
> Anyone who works for a company is an indentured servant.
If my company treats me badly, I can leave them without the threat of being DEPORTED.
> I don't have time to tinker with everything in my PC.
Then there's no problem.
Clearly you have no times for games either.
Steam is specifically meant to waste a lot of your time. That's what it was built for. If you don't have time to install it, then you don't have the time to use it either.
So you see the situation solves itself.
Spending hours and hours playing TF2 versus futzing with the installer for a bit. No comparison really.
> It should just work. Do the same thing on a windows 7 system, ...and you will be lucky if it works.
As always, the propaganda about how well Windows works simply cannot be trusted. When you try this stuff out for yourself you realize that it really isn't all that it is cracked up to be.
Although sometimes Windows just breaks and doesn't tell you. So you don't realize that it's broken. It just acts unpredictably or your performance goes to sh*t.
They could do that without screwing over the desktop in the process.
Commercial success? What commercial success? What makes you think that forking even more of their core system will actually lead to any sort of commercial success? If anything, they are just increasing their own burden.
Ubuntu does not represent "commercial success".
If I wanted to whine about commercial success like some "hippie", then I would whine about some other company.
> Right, I'm a "troll." It's not like I write Linux applications for a living and deal with this shit on a daily basis or anything.
Sounds you are that jackass at Adobe that was complaining about clanlib.
> So you're saying nothing will change?
Linux has always had a common set of core system APIs. Even things as dire as GNOME versus KDE still represented things that could happily co-exist within the same desktop user context.
There has always been a common "upstream", despite what trolls like you might want to make of the situation.
....except the phone already displaced all of that stuff.
That device is getting LARGER rather than smaller. That's being driven by the fact that a lot of people like MORE rather than less screen space. Until you crack that display size problem, you may have a problem convincing people to downsize their mobile devices.
The Dick Tracy types have been been proved wrong already. Get over it.
Will it run Linux? Why not? There have already been Linux based versions of this very idea.
It's Apple. Of course they are late to the party.
Apple's demographic is willfully ignorant conspicuous consumers.
When it comes to watches targeted at that sort of consumer, $300 is a drop in the bucket.
So the financial aspect is possibly not a problem here.
Are you trying to be sarcastic?
Songs and albums map quite naturally onto a filesystem. If you are more interested in albums, then a file system based approach is much more appealing since there is a nice 1:1 mapping there.
On the other hand, iTunes has more of a "play list" focused interface. It also has this strange inability to allow you to choose a single album.
I always found that part of iTunes bind bogglingly stupid.
It has some interesting "power use" features. As a "keep it simple for the n00bs" interface, it's rather laughable really.
> with the multitude of installers, and having to play around with antiquated X, and a retarded sound system.
The only thing antiquated and retarded her is your argument.
> Fresh install of Linux Mint, installed Steam, installed TF 2...bam.... software rendering
Perhaps Steam doesn't like your video driver. It tends to be really vocal about this sort of thing. Tends to pester you to get current.
Wolves are social and very heirarchical. It doesn't seem a very far stretch for a beta wolf to replace one alpha for another. In this regard, Wolves already seemed suited to be domesticated. No "extra adaptations" were required.
Sergy is probably closer to Woz than Jobs then.
He's a geek who is in a good position to see what's coming on the horizon. He's not just a salesman. So of course he's likely to fixate on "the coming thing". He's like the rest of us that can imagine where things are going. Like many of us, he sees where we could be and is a little impatient.
> That's not what I wrote. I wrote: "the iPad created the concept of desirable device called a tablet, that was different from a big phone."
No it didn't. Pretty much the entire rest of the industry had similar alternatives. There was even an "iPad knockoff" released 6 months prior to the iPad. It was just released by a company that's not a media darling.
Apple hit on a good combination while being noticed.
Anything beyond that is mindless fanboy nonsense.
Immediately, there were disputes about what other varations might be useful. That which the iCult didn't approve of was immediately dismissed. That mindless tyrannical approach has now been proven wrong.
The Free Market won out over Fascism.
Are you kidding. It's the A users that are the ones that can actually tolerate this absurdly fast release cycle. They can tolerate it because they don't really do anything. So there is far less chance that any reversion will bugger them.
The B users are going to be f*cked up by this nonsense because they are trying to use everything and have all sorts of inter-dependencies. Reversions caused by too many versions too quickly will CLOBBER these "bread and butter" end users.
Profitable "Enterprise" users are the ones that like to cling to old versions because the cost of an outtage is too high.
> 3. Integration with SQL and business intelligence reports in Excel
You just lost the "average user" at that point.
Although you probably lost them already at #1 or or #2.
#4 is just a lie. #9 is esoteric even for companies. #10 is just a big security nuissance.
> Quiet and small form factor conventional drives have a place in things like Tivos and personal recording devices for TV
Nonsense. TV, especially HD TV is big, VERY BIG. This is especially true for terrestrial broadcast and cable that's still using outdated codecs like MPEG2.
If you are talking about "things like Tivos", you need all of the space you can get. The "footprint" issue is not a problem. Neither is noise as such devices have thrived with large desktop style hard drives.
A Tivo can use all the space it can get. Laptop drives don't provide any value and actually limit functionality while being more expensive. They're a case of "pay more to get less".
> Microsoft has never been market leader in either phones or search.
Microsoft has been a desktop monopoly since before the first line of the Linux kernel was written. They are one of the largest corporations on the planet with enough market power and leverage to push their way into new markets easily.
In the market where Linux lives, simply not having been put out of business by Microsoft is remarkable. Apple is very unusual in this and nearly didn't make it. The corpses of companies that tried to offer competitive products liter the landscape.
...yes. Never mind the fact that Microsoft is a monopoly that chose to clone Word Perfect and force feed it to everyone. Corel's real problem was supporting Linux.
You are confusing cause and effect here.
I went to comdex in my Loki t-shirt and got mistaken for a Loki employee. I went to a LUG meeting and people were flabbergasted that there were games for Linux. I have had to "beat the bushes" sometimes to find games for Linux.
Humble Bundles have benefited from being widely publicized without any real effort on the part of those running it. They have benefited from the same media effect that Apple enjoys. Steam is the same way.
They end up being a success even if the people making the games put no real effort in ensuring that their target demographic knows what's going on.
Something like Steam makes the games easy to find even for people not willing to go off looking for them like Odysseus.
The same goes for the Apple and Google "stores". It's not limited to Linux really.
> Bullshit like that is unthinkable on Windows
No it isn't. There's a lot of propaganda about how good and easy Windows is supposed to be but it's mostly boggus.
On the other hand, I just experienced this very thing on MacOS. I put MacOS back on a Mini that had been running Ubuntu for years (without incident).
As soon as it updated itself, networking was completely buggered.
The MacOS update didn't just "kill wifi". It "killed all networking" period.
You are a dwarf calling a midget shorty.
Both platforms suffer from the problem of "paying their own way". You are a deluded fool to try and claim otherwise. MacOS is in the exact same boat as Linux here.
As far as this "compatibility" problem you're trying to manufacture goes: I still play my old Loki games.
> Look at the MacMini specs
It's packed like a jack-in-box with poor heat management even in a consumer environment. Pack them together like sardines and you're just making the situation worse. Beef up the components and you're just complicating the already piss-poor heat management.
These things are bad enough as a "home server". Nevermind cramming an absurd number of them into a rack.
The only reason that this is even an issue is the whole "monopoly" Apple has on running MacOS binaries. Otherwise, this would be an obvious candidate for virtualization or running on hardware that's actually designed for the operating environment.