The only difference here is that someone got old and became a hypocrite. What was fine for him to do to others in is youth suddenly became a crime when it was finally done to him.
You know evil when it does harmful things that are unnecessary.
Microsoft did it when it sabotaged rivals when it's position left it in no danger from such rivals. This is just Apple doing the same. The wheel has turned and they are the evil empire now.
All of the pro-Apple rhetoric and marketing nonsense evaporates when you see that the company needs to use the courts as a crutch.
If they are so easy to copy, then a 20 year monopoly is clearly unwarranted.
You're the one that can't see the real issue. You just see some pet brand and you rush to the defense of some corporation that doesn't really need you sticking up for it.
"ownership" is very destructive here and should be avoided if at all possible.
Like I said: you should be forced to live in the kind of world you are advocating.
Are you kidding? Oracle loves to spout rhetoric about how they have made their product so automated that you don't need a DBA anymore. Oracle also sells outsourcing services.
So you are wrong. Oracle is actively trying to outsource your DBA job to India.
I judge Windows based on how the n00bs around me deal with it.
> Really? I have never had a problem plugging my external hard drive
Perhaps "you" haven't, but I have seen n00bs that have. What Windows presents to you is not appropriate for non-geek users. They are blasted with a whole set of options that they don't understand instead of something simple.
This is where Macs can shine. They keep the level of complexity and flim-flam down to a bare minimum.
Just because it is a shiny happy interface doesn't mean it's a good shiny happy interface.
> Really? You consider Linux to be just as user friendly as MacOS? Seriously? Can I have some of what you are smoking?
Anything of any value should already be backed up.
You should be able to put an AT4 round into your work PC without and adverse impact to your employer beyond the fact that an already amortized asset has been been converted into a pile of slag.
We need to get past the idea that copying someone else's work is somehow an inherently bad thing. Copying other people's work is the only way any human progress ever occurs.
If people aren't allowed to copy each other, then all innovation stops.
YOU should be forced to use no computing tech newer than a patent monopoly term. You should actually live what you are advocating for the rest of us.
> Doesn't work that way. It's who patents their method first that gets the legal claim.
THAT is nonsense and contrary to the intended purpose of a patent system.
Patents aren't a virtual land grab. They are a means to encourage the disclosure of trade secrets. They aren't meant for every stupid little trivial idea that might pop into your mother-in-law's head.
They're more for things that have been stumping engineers for decades if not centuries.
Samsung's alternative options cost HALF of what the Apple version does. That is, I can choose a different set of tradeoffs and spend less. It's rather similar to how I use ION nettops in the place of Mac Minis.
A diversity of options is nice this way. I get what I want rather than the singular package deal that some monopoly wannabe wants to offer me.
That's the beautiful thing about capitalism and the free market.
The peasantry is in control rather than a few Robber Barons.
"Too much like Apple" doesn't suit my requirements. It has nothing to do with confusing some corporate brand fixation with something that actually justifies some kind of loyalty.
> There's nothing special about Linux that warrants the frustration that both you and these users would experience
Sure there is.
Simple things are simple. You don't have Linux trying to overcomplicate something simple like plugging in a hard drive or an Android device and just using it.
Windows is still a malware magnet. Your most troublesome "free tech support" users are probably still getting themselves infected with viruses even with Windows 7. Linux stops that.
No. The real question here is "why bother with Windows". It's a crappy default and it's the one that should be justifying it's existence.
The reasons to run Linux are the same reasons to run MacOS. The reasons not to run Linux (3rd party support) are also the same reasons not to run MacOS.
What Microsoft has is a monpoly on the companies that are likely to make such ARM tablets. They have an already existing pathalogical relationship with "the industry". They can bully "the industry" around and make something appear democratic when it's really just Microsoft pushing everyone around.
"The industry" doesn't want to lose the ability to sell the predominant platform. It's the same stick that has always been there and the same stick that's gotten Microsoft sued by various national regulators for decades.
The "industry as a whole" didn't decide anything. Microsoft is using it's dominant position in desktop PCs to ensure that another similar platform based on another microprocessor is a Microsoft only platform.
Microsoft is ensuring that competitors have to go through them.
Theo is understandably upset about this. His characterization of Redhat and Canonical is a bit off though.
Nothing short of a Soviet style police state would have stopped him either. That's kind of the whole point of this article. We live in a highly advanced technological society. We have been building our own weapons since before we were an independent nation.
The idea that we can put the genie back in the bottle is a little absurd.
If not bullets, then explosives. If not explosives, then chemicals.
Some of this tech is ancient already. If you can build stuff, you can probably build bad stuff.
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A well mastered DVD is also a suitably good "tweak" for a lot of use cases. Not every DVD is created equal (or BD for that matter).
Some discs are wonderful advertisements for their particular formats and others are not.
...which matters not one bit.
The only difference here is that someone got old and became a hypocrite. What was fine for him to do to others in is youth suddenly became a crime when it was finally done to him.
You know evil when it does harmful things that are unnecessary.
Microsoft did it when it sabotaged rivals when it's position left it in no danger from such rivals. This is just Apple doing the same. The wheel has turned and they are the evil empire now.
All of the pro-Apple rhetoric and marketing nonsense evaporates when you see that the company needs to use the courts as a crutch.
If they are so easy to copy, then a 20 year monopoly is clearly unwarranted.
You're the one that can't see the real issue. You just see some pet brand and you rush to the defense of some corporation that doesn't really need you sticking up for it.
"ownership" is very destructive here and should be avoided if at all possible.
Like I said: you should be forced to live in the kind of world you are advocating.
> So, what does this have to do with using Oracle Linux?
Ask the guy who actually brought it up.
>
> Nothing..... you just want to flame since you probably make you think it makes you look cool. It doesn't.
I just set the record straight. Stop swimming in the kool-aid.
Quite.
This is not Zuckerberg's fiasco. It's the underwritter's fiasco. Zuckerberg in fact made out like a bandit here.
Are you kidding? Oracle loves to spout rhetoric about how they have made their product so automated that you don't need a DBA anymore. Oracle also sells outsourcing services.
So you are wrong. Oracle is actively trying to outsource your DBA job to India.
Clearly you don't know Oracle.
Who needs to run a non-free version of Linux?
People who buy expensive commercial software, that's who.
If you are already running the megabuck database, a few more bucks for RHEL or SLES is really not a big deal.
If you aren't already giving Oracle a big pile of money EVERY YEAR, then their version of Linux is pretty irrelevant.
I said the free market, not the Mad Max approach to economic policy.
Of course total lawlessness is going to benefit the biggest bully.
I judge Windows based on how the n00bs around me deal with it.
> Really? I have never had a problem plugging my external hard drive
Perhaps "you" haven't, but I have seen n00bs that have. What Windows presents to you is not appropriate for non-geek users. They are blasted with a whole set of options that they don't understand instead of something simple.
This is where Macs can shine. They keep the level of complexity and flim-flam down to a bare minimum.
Just because it is a shiny happy interface doesn't mean it's a good shiny happy interface.
> Really? You consider Linux to be just as user friendly as MacOS? Seriously? Can I have some of what you are smoking?
Do you actually own any Macs? I do.
Anything of any value should already be backed up.
You should be able to put an AT4 round into your work PC without and adverse impact to your employer beyond the fact that an already amortized asset has been been converted into a pile of slag.
Cars are the poster children for similar designs.
My first car quite often got mistaken for it's other branded kin.
> Samsung made what amounts to a copy of the iPad
So what?
We need to get past the idea that copying someone else's work is somehow an inherently bad thing. Copying other people's work is the only way any human progress ever occurs.
If people aren't allowed to copy each other, then all innovation stops.
YOU should be forced to use no computing tech newer than a patent monopoly term. You should actually live what you are advocating for the rest of us.
That's like saying that the first guy to ever make a mass market color TV invented color television.
Of course the capacity to do something greatly preceeded the technology to make it into an affordable consumer product.
> Doesn't work that way. It's who patents their method first that gets the legal claim.
THAT is nonsense and contrary to the intended purpose of a patent system.
Patents aren't a virtual land grab. They are a means to encourage the disclosure of trade secrets. They aren't meant for every stupid little trivial idea that might pop into your mother-in-law's head.
They're more for things that have been stumping engineers for decades if not centuries.
Not quite.
Samsung's alternative options cost HALF of what the Apple version does. That is, I can choose a different set of tradeoffs and spend less. It's rather similar to how I use ION nettops in the place of Mac Minis.
A diversity of options is nice this way. I get what I want rather than the singular package deal that some monopoly wannabe wants to offer me.
That's the beautiful thing about capitalism and the free market.
The peasantry is in control rather than a few Robber Barons.
"Too much like Apple" doesn't suit my requirements. It has nothing to do with confusing some corporate brand fixation with something that actually justifies some kind of loyalty.
It's the classic catch-22.
If you don't copy the market leader, you are dismissed out of hand.
If you do copy the market leader, you are accused of copying.
It's just that it usually doesn't lead to patent trolling suits and your product being banned from sale anywhere.
"Why does god need a starship?"
> There's nothing special about Linux that warrants the frustration that both you and these users would experience
Sure there is.
Simple things are simple. You don't have Linux trying to overcomplicate something simple like plugging in a hard drive or an Android device and just using it.
Windows is still a malware magnet. Your most troublesome "free tech support" users are probably still getting themselves infected with viruses even with Windows 7. Linux stops that.
No. The real question here is "why bother with Windows". It's a crappy default and it's the one that should be justifying it's existence.
The reasons to run Linux are the same reasons to run MacOS. The reasons not to run Linux (3rd party support) are also the same reasons not to run MacOS.
Linux just doesn't require a minimum $700 buy in.
The old school Unix users are laughing at you.
1) sudo is really not that much trouble
2) it's built into the GUI so you don't even have to use it anyways.
It's like you've never actually touched Ubuntu EVER.
Anything that presents the familiar desktop experience to the end user. Unfortunately, this rules out the current versions of Ubuntu.
Mint might be able to pick up the slack though.
The latest Ubuntu is fine once you've retrofitted it with mate. This is not something I would expect a novice to do though.
This guys is throwing up one of those "hybrid-laptops". He's found his corner case and he's going to troll it for everything it's worth.
What Microsoft has is a monpoly on the companies that are likely to make such ARM tablets. They have an already existing pathalogical relationship with "the industry". They can bully "the industry" around and make something appear democratic when it's really just Microsoft pushing everyone around.
"The industry" doesn't want to lose the ability to sell the predominant platform. It's the same stick that has always been there and the same stick that's gotten Microsoft sued by various national regulators for decades.
The "industry as a whole" didn't decide anything. Microsoft is using it's dominant position in desktop PCs to ensure that another similar platform based on another microprocessor is a Microsoft only platform.
Microsoft is ensuring that competitors have to go through them.
Theo is understandably upset about this. His characterization of Redhat and Canonical is a bit off though.
Nothing short of a Soviet style police state would have stopped him either. That's kind of the whole point of this article. We live in a highly advanced technological society. We have been building our own weapons since before we were an independent nation.
The idea that we can put the genie back in the bottle is a little absurd.
If not bullets, then explosives. If not explosives, then chemicals.
Some of this tech is ancient already. If you can build stuff, you can probably build bad stuff.
You could probably apply this "tyrrany of the minority" rhetoric to the ACLU and the EFF.
So that's a pretty dangerous bit of propaganda to push there.