That's the problem with the current liberal narrative about Confederate monuments or even the Electoral College. It glosses over a lot of the relevant history and background material.
The EU doesn't have a single continent wide medical system but the US is expected to magically build an effective one. That's deranged.
The "shining examples" that tend to get held up in Europe are the size of American cities. They aren't even as large as most of our States. The closest reasonable comparison to the US is the UK and their actual results suck compared those same nordic utopias.
Plus we already have BADLY implemented forms of socialized medicine.
Bernie wants to force Medicare on me and the jackass doesn't even use it himself.
> Not Venezuela, but many other places. I had excellent OPLL surgery on my neck for about $14,000, including four nights in a private hospital room. In the US it would have been (I'm told) close to a quarter million.
Except you wouldn't have actually paid that.
Your medical tourism requires a big bag of money.
Getting treated in the US doesn't.
If you've got the big bag of money to engage in medical tourism, or even just regular foreign tourism, then you're clearly not in a position to be forced to pay cash for medical care.
You may need some life saving surgery and you might eventually even get it. You will have to wait for it though. You may even die in the meantime.
You can see people on protest sites appealing the meds they've been denied or see people raising private money to pay for their own NHS operations on GoFundMe. Or you could simply read the British press for plenty of reasons to rubbish the NHS.
None of this stuff is secret or hidden.
The liberal press in Britain will happily rubbish the NHS.
The vast majority of deaths reported in the US are heart disease or cancer. This includes the elderly. Nobody wants to put the real cause of death on a death certificate because of legal liability issues.
The screeching liberals tend to forget about the socialized medicine systems we already have in place. People that are genuinely bad off in the US get free health care.
The only real issue is whether or not able bodied, young, working people that can fed for themselves get something for nothing.
That's what American liberals are really screeching for. They want government benefits and don't want to contribute to the collective price for them. THAT is the real difference between the US and Europe.
The same outcome? I don't have to wait for diagnostic services as an American. I have never felt the need to go to the private market in order to get a CAT scan in a timely fashion.
Your claim of "millions denied access" is just bogus media narrative.
Basic medical care is no more expensive than what Americans blow on pets, beauty treatments, and over priced lattes.
Besides, Obamacare was supposed to solve that whole "access" problem.
This is actually a technical issue. It's a medical one.
We have deranged ideas about what constitute "normal" that don't match up with actual science. Even the so called scientists perpetuate this crap.
On the other hand, this "body positive" crap is even more of an extreme. It's responding to stupid with even bigger stupid.
Forget about whales. Hollywood is far too much of a fashion monoculture. It tries to muddle all interesting physical characteristics and ethinc/racial distinctions to the point where you can't tell who's who in a remake of an 80s film where the cast were very distinct from each other.
You're conflating "heavy" with morbidly obese. ANY large deviation from established body fat norms is BAD. This includes being too thin. Even being moderately fat is better than being too thin.
The medical profession just has a strong bias for what would be considered sickly in any other century. This bias negatively impacts both the overweight and the skinny.
The overweight get too much pointless crap and are driven away from medical care and the skinny get offered Viagra when they need to be sent to the ICU and get a transfusion equal to half their normal blood volume.
That said, this who "body positive" nonsense is just a lunatic fringe on the far edge of the left. No one else takes it seriously. So of course Hollywood doesn't.
Nobody wants to watch ugly on a 30 foot tall screen.
Yeah... it's far better to trust completely untrusted sources while BROADCASTING to the world that I'm a pirate.
Unless you are a poor kid with no assets, you're better off just paying for what you use. If you can do it, there's no compelling reason to be a deadbeat.
That means holding ALL perpetrators of violence responsible.
Liberal activists looking for a fight don't get a free pass. This is especially true for the ones that specifically advocate political violence.
The left has no interest in real non-violence any more. Some of them give lip service to it but their rhetoric sounds more like people looking to get in a brawl. Nobody is interested in acknowledging the troublemakers or calling them out.
If anything, liberal media outlets cover up their nonsense.
Of course. They don't buy into your party line. Therefore they are Nazis. Forget any sort of nuance. Forget that there's a diverse range of actual bigots. They're all just Nazis.
No. It's just convenient. You don't actually have to acknowledge who they are or what they say. You can just screech Juden at them put a yellow star on their jacket and shove them into the ghetto.
So petty virtue signalling is better than telling Trump things he needs to hear. You really don't make me feel very good about voting Democrat in the next election. If you are an accurate reflection on the Democrat mindset then it's horribly unhinged and divorced from any sort of pragmatism.
That's an extra bonus above and beyond advocating the labeling people as Nazis so you can act like one yourself.
> Honest question. Why do you continue to support him?
The other option thinks that it's OK to use violence to silence political opposition. There is no other option unless you want to vote for a Green or a Libertarian.
You are confusing your own media narrative with reality. You are a classic Usenet troll creating a fiction about their opponent and then proceeding to argue against that rather than facts.
They aren't literal Nazis. You are just calling them that because you think it gives you an excuse to strip them of their rights.
THAT is actual classic Nazi behavior.
The rules apply to everyone equally. That's a very key element of this whole "democracy and equality" thing.
In your sick twisted little world view, those that actually stand up for American values are accused of being Nazis in an attempt to silence them.
It doesn't matter even what a genuine Nazi is saying, that's never worse then people actually employing violence to silence others.
Yes, the guy punching the Nazi is actually worse than the Nazi.
The Electoral College operates the exact same way the Congress does. It prevents the bigger states from being big bullies and pushing everyone around. Otherwise, the smaller states would have no interest in being part of the Union.
If you are butt hurt about the Electoral College then you should be equally butt hurt about the Congress. They are both designed the same way for the same reason.
Yeah. It's almost like someone works with machines because they aren't a people person. Imagine that? HELL. If I had the soft skills too I would never bother with putting up with a corporate employer and having them take the lion's share of the value I create.
What's the point really?
It's like guys that are more people oriented not going into IT.
The existence of special treatment will always cast a shadow over your own abilities and about whether or not you deserve the place you have. It's an adds an extra layer of bullshit that's an unnecessary and counterproductive distraction.
The idea that such measures are required is it's own special sort of bigotry.
That's probably more a feature of socialism than the average intelligence level. Socialism leads to shortages and rationing. Resources are limited to what government beaurocrats are willing to allocate.
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No. We distrust central authority in general.
That's the problem with the current liberal narrative about Confederate monuments or even the Electoral College. It glosses over a lot of the relevant history and background material.
The EU doesn't have a single continent wide medical system but the US is expected to magically build an effective one. That's deranged.
The "shining examples" that tend to get held up in Europe are the size of American cities. They aren't even as large as most of our States. The closest reasonable comparison to the US is the UK and their actual results suck compared those same nordic utopias.
Plus we already have BADLY implemented forms of socialized medicine.
Bernie wants to force Medicare on me and the jackass doesn't even use it himself.
> Not Venezuela, but many other places. I had excellent OPLL surgery on my neck for about $14,000, including four nights in a private hospital room. In the US it would have been (I'm told) close to a quarter million.
Except you wouldn't have actually paid that.
Your medical tourism requires a big bag of money.
Getting treated in the US doesn't.
If you've got the big bag of money to engage in medical tourism, or even just regular foreign tourism, then you're clearly not in a position to be forced to pay cash for medical care.
> Try having an illness instead. See how that works out.
So you've got some actual experience with this or are you just some moron repeating something he heard from CNN or The Other 98%?
...subject to rationing and waiting lists.
You may need some life saving surgery and you might eventually even get it. You will have to wait for it though. You may even die in the meantime.
You can see people on protest sites appealing the meds they've been denied or see people raising private money to pay for their own NHS operations on GoFundMe. Or you could simply read the British press for plenty of reasons to rubbish the NHS.
None of this stuff is secret or hidden.
The liberal press in Britain will happily rubbish the NHS.
The vast majority of deaths reported in the US are heart disease or cancer. This includes the elderly. Nobody wants to put the real cause of death on a death certificate because of legal liability issues.
Yes. Really.
The screeching liberals tend to forget about the socialized medicine systems we already have in place. People that are genuinely bad off in the US get free health care.
The only real issue is whether or not able bodied, young, working people that can fed for themselves get something for nothing.
That's what American liberals are really screeching for. They want government benefits and don't want to contribute to the collective price for them. THAT is the real difference between the US and Europe.
Our liberals are total deadbeats.
The same outcome? I don't have to wait for diagnostic services as an American. I have never felt the need to go to the private market in order to get a CAT scan in a timely fashion.
Your claim of "millions denied access" is just bogus media narrative.
Basic medical care is no more expensive than what Americans blow on pets, beauty treatments, and over priced lattes.
Besides, Obamacare was supposed to solve that whole "access" problem.
Comedy? You mean the type of movie where you are supposed to LAUGH AT the leading characters. That's hardly a compelling example.
You are bragging that you are putting down the short bubbling Jew.
This is actually a technical issue. It's a medical one.
We have deranged ideas about what constitute "normal" that don't match up with actual science. Even the so called scientists perpetuate this crap.
On the other hand, this "body positive" crap is even more of an extreme. It's responding to stupid with even bigger stupid.
Forget about whales. Hollywood is far too much of a fashion monoculture. It tries to muddle all interesting physical characteristics and ethinc/racial distinctions to the point where you can't tell who's who in a remake of an 80s film where the cast were very distinct from each other.
No they don't.
You're conflating "heavy" with morbidly obese. ANY large deviation from established body fat norms is BAD. This includes being too thin. Even being moderately fat is better than being too thin.
The medical profession just has a strong bias for what would be considered sickly in any other century. This bias negatively impacts both the overweight and the skinny.
The overweight get too much pointless crap and are driven away from medical care and the skinny get offered Viagra when they need to be sent to the ICU and get a transfusion equal to half their normal blood volume.
That said, this who "body positive" nonsense is just a lunatic fringe on the far edge of the left. No one else takes it seriously. So of course Hollywood doesn't.
Nobody wants to watch ugly on a 30 foot tall screen.
The Nazis perpetrated on the Russians atrocities on par with the Shoa. Nobody in the West bothers to acknowledge this.
See Mein Kampf under "Lebensraum".
Congratulations, you just described Jim Crow.
Except the only thing that these people are actually doing is saying shit you don't like.
You clearly want license to abuse people you don't like and are too arrogant to see this ever being used against you.
Yeah... it's far better to trust completely untrusted sources while BROADCASTING to the world that I'm a pirate.
Unless you are a poor kid with no assets, you're better off just paying for what you use. If you can do it, there's no compelling reason to be a deadbeat.
That means holding ALL perpetrators of violence responsible.
Liberal activists looking for a fight don't get a free pass. This is especially true for the ones that specifically advocate political violence.
The left has no interest in real non-violence any more. Some of them give lip service to it but their rhetoric sounds more like people looking to get in a brawl. Nobody is interested in acknowledging the troublemakers or calling them out.
If anything, liberal media outlets cover up their nonsense.
Of course. They don't buy into your party line. Therefore they are Nazis. Forget any sort of nuance. Forget that there's a diverse range of actual bigots. They're all just Nazis.
No. It's just convenient. You don't actually have to acknowledge who they are or what they say. You can just screech Juden at them put a yellow star on their jacket and shove them into the ghetto.
So petty virtue signalling is better than telling Trump things he needs to hear. You really don't make me feel very good about voting Democrat in the next election. If you are an accurate reflection on the Democrat mindset then it's horribly unhinged and divorced from any sort of pragmatism.
That's an extra bonus above and beyond advocating the labeling people as Nazis so you can act like one yourself.
> Honest question. Why do you continue to support him?
The other option thinks that it's OK to use violence to silence political opposition. There is no other option unless you want to vote for a Green or a Libertarian.
You are confusing your own media narrative with reality. You are a classic Usenet troll creating a fiction about their opponent and then proceeding to argue against that rather than facts.
They aren't literal Nazis. You are just calling them that because you think it gives you an excuse to strip them of their rights.
THAT is actual classic Nazi behavior.
The rules apply to everyone equally. That's a very key element of this whole "democracy and equality" thing.
In your sick twisted little world view, those that actually stand up for American values are accused of being Nazis in an attempt to silence them.
It doesn't matter even what a genuine Nazi is saying, that's never worse then people actually employing violence to silence others.
Yes, the guy punching the Nazi is actually worse than the Nazi.
The Electoral College operates the exact same way the Congress does. It prevents the bigger states from being big bullies and pushing everyone around. Otherwise, the smaller states would have no interest in being part of the Union.
If you are butt hurt about the Electoral College then you should be equally butt hurt about the Congress. They are both designed the same way for the same reason.
Nazis don't hold you for the police. They just beat you up.
What passes for historical insight these days is simply appalling.
Yeah. It's almost like someone works with machines because they aren't a people person. Imagine that? HELL. If I had the soft skills too I would never bother with putting up with a corporate employer and having them take the lion's share of the value I create.
What's the point really?
It's like guys that are more people oriented not going into IT.
Modern formatting was bleeding edge stuff about 1300 years ago. Get with the times. :p
The existence of special treatment will always cast a shadow over your own abilities and about whether or not you deserve the place you have. It's an adds an extra layer of bullshit that's an unnecessary and counterproductive distraction.
The idea that such measures are required is it's own special sort of bigotry.
That's probably more a feature of socialism than the average intelligence level. Socialism leads to shortages and rationing. Resources are limited to what government beaurocrats are willing to allocate.