The only people that can't cope with multiple political parties are liberals that assume that anyone that doesn't follow their group think is some kind of Nazi.
The entire media narrative surrounding this event distils down to nothing more than that.
You either support the absurd whitewash being perpetrated by Reb state politicians or you're a Klansman.
All of that sounds a lot more like modern liberals really. A new noisy accused racists may want more power and influence but it's the liberals that actually have it. Show up at the wrong rally supporting the wrong political ideas and the virtual mob will ensure that your life is ruined.
What liberals brag about actually doing is far more scary than what some fringe group is accused of advocating.
The whole thing would have been a complete non-issue if not for the counter protest and the communist militia that decided to show up. The media and screeching liberals are giving these people far more exposure than they would get on their own.
On the other hand, you can actually walk up to these people and tell them what you think of them. They are much less likely to be able to escape the rules they make. They actually live in the same communities you do rather than some far off special government district.
Why you are so eager to fellate one set of politicians and dismiss another really astounds me.
> As much as I don't like Trump or his tax reform plans, you're actually repeating false information. Removing mortgage interest is no longer in the plan.
It doesn't matter either way. People living in high cost of living areas are far less likely to be home owners.
> 1. No one has any chronic or unexpected medical problems.
A counter example would like to chime in here.
Obamacare has been more of a problem for me in this regard then my total medical costs. Jacked up insurance premiums are a bigger burden on my budget then my drug, physician, or hospital copays.
I get an extra kick in the balls because having been run out of the private market (because it was destroy), I have to deal with insurance companies I would never choose myself. Also, the ACA measure that was supposed to put a lid on the "mid year insurance change" problem is worthless.
I lost a few extra grand to that last year. That's money I would not have lost if I could have stayed on my plan from 2001. This same "bad plan" also paid for the kind of drug that the NHS and Canada refuse people.
College won't be a problem either. We didn't go crazy with the house (and it's paid off) and we don't go crazy with the cars (and those are paid off).
I've travelled the world and have investments that would allow me to retire right now. I have managed this despite dealing with an expensive chronic medical condition because I have one of those "crap jobs" in one of those places with "crap weather" and made a conscious effort to not blow everything I make.
You sound like a Swede trying to convince himself he's living in the best place in the world.
The max consumer burden for a good US private insurance policy is $6000 or less. That's pocket change for anyone making $150K. Or rather it should be.
It should NOT put you under. At worst is should slightly elevate your overall consumer debt.
The ONLY reason this sort of thing is ever a problem for the upper working class is the fact that rampant consumerism discourages any sort of impulse control or planning for the future.
That $6K could easily be your car or your house.
Americans blow all sorts of money on other crap. It's only paying doctors that is considered some great tragedy.
Even the lower working class does this. They also manage to scrape by and fend for themselves when hit with something like this too. Although they are in MUCH less of a position to.
Why would anyone in the use pay for primary school in the US. That's just moronic. That's what white flight is for. You flee the hoods in the inner city that are your real problem. It's not how much money you blow on the school budget but how your neighbors view education.
Trump has done it four times. Businesses do it all the time. They don't have some pathological fear of it. it is simply a too. Certainly our laws regarding personal bankruptcy have been corrupted (and very recently too).
It's not something that should really be a big deal. Plus most of us are starting from a better point than Europeans anyways. Better broke than dead waiting in line or getting substandard care.
NOBODY asks for this. They always want SOMEONE ELSE to bear the burden. Americans think that they can have it both ways and get something for nothing without getting the rest that comes with.
Nobody wants to pay for someone else. People don't even want to pay enough for themselves. They think they can get some sort of bargain or freebie on something that's deathly important.
It's like a Walmart sort of cheap junk for less mentality.
There was some FISA vote during the campaign that violated one of his campaign promises. I nearly didn't vote for him over that. I only flipped back after McCain had his senior moment with Palin.
The NPR coverage of him really demystified him too.
Your narrative is utter BS designed to obscure your own party's failings. It's a big fat example of how modern liberals refuse any sort of personal responsibility.
The party ran a candidate that has been HATED for YEARS.
This hate was obvious to anyone that bothered to pay attention.
The fact that she went out of her way to antagonize those people didn't help.
It takes more than the right name to assume the throne here. Having a sufficiently charismatic husband is not good enough either. You have to be charismatic yourself. You have to actually be able to win an election.
The whole reason the protagonist was shat on was because he was a naturally conceived baby. It was not clear if babies were engineered or merely selected but the same level of genetic understanding was implied.
I think the real problem with this is that we're not nearly as smart as we think we are and this is tinkering with people. With people that are dying, this kind of thing makes more sense from the risk/reward perspective.
Not even remotely close. This is more like the development of the atomic bomb. Nice to see that this group isn't any smarter than anyone else and doesn't have to sense to have some apprehension about this.
> So poor (or in this case lower middle class) people should be shamed for wanting to have families?
Pretty much.
Some of us grew up poor and have NO problem with this idea.
You should not have children you can't be responsible for. The state really shouldn't pay to to breed poverty. Can't be avoided though because the perpetrator can't be punished without also punishing the victims.
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The only people that can't cope with multiple political parties are liberals that assume that anyone that doesn't follow their group think is some kind of Nazi.
The entire media narrative surrounding this event distils down to nothing more than that.
You either support the absurd whitewash being perpetrated by Reb state politicians or you're a Klansman.
All of that sounds a lot more like modern liberals really. A new noisy accused racists may want more power and influence but it's the liberals that actually have it. Show up at the wrong rally supporting the wrong political ideas and the virtual mob will ensure that your life is ruined.
What liberals brag about actually doing is far more scary than what some fringe group is accused of advocating.
The whole thing would have been a complete non-issue if not for the counter protest and the communist militia that decided to show up. The media and screeching liberals are giving these people far more exposure than they would get on their own.
On the other hand, you can actually walk up to these people and tell them what you think of them. They are much less likely to be able to escape the rules they make. They actually live in the same communities you do rather than some far off special government district.
Why you are so eager to fellate one set of politicians and dismiss another really astounds me.
> As much as I don't like Trump or his tax reform plans, you're actually repeating false information. Removing mortgage interest is no longer in the plan.
It doesn't matter either way. People living in high cost of living areas are far less likely to be home owners.
The mortgage interest deduction is only useful if you're living beyond your means.
> That's upper middle class. You're still one health injury or job loss away from not being in that bracket.
Either of those is more about spending beyond your means and/or blowing every dime you have as soon as you get it.
> People are more likely to see $600k McMansions near where they live and resent those who can afford them
I manage both. I can buy one and I think those that do are morons.
"resent" would probably not be the right word.
Also that comment of yours right there is a pretty good demonstration of what's wrong in the US. You aren't "rich" unless you recklessly flaunt it.
$200 sneakers, designer purses, overpriced cars, oversized houses.
> 1. No one has any chronic or unexpected medical problems.
A counter example would like to chime in here.
Obamacare has been more of a problem for me in this regard then my total medical costs. Jacked up insurance premiums are a bigger burden on my budget then my drug, physician, or hospital copays.
I get an extra kick in the balls because having been run out of the private market (because it was destroy), I have to deal with insurance companies I would never choose myself. Also, the ACA measure that was supposed to put a lid on the "mid year insurance change" problem is worthless.
I lost a few extra grand to that last year. That's money I would not have lost if I could have stayed on my plan from 2001. This same "bad plan" also paid for the kind of drug that the NHS and Canada refuse people.
College won't be a problem either. We didn't go crazy with the house (and it's paid off) and we don't go crazy with the cars (and those are paid off).
I've travelled the world and have investments that would allow me to retire right now. I have managed this despite dealing with an expensive chronic medical condition because I have one of those "crap jobs" in one of those places with "crap weather" and made a conscious effort to not blow everything I make.
You sound like a Swede trying to convince himself he's living in the best place in the world.
No it doesn't. It's total BULLSHIT.
The max consumer burden for a good US private insurance policy is $6000 or less. That's pocket change for anyone making $150K. Or rather it should be.
It should NOT put you under. At worst is should slightly elevate your overall consumer debt.
The ONLY reason this sort of thing is ever a problem for the upper working class is the fact that rampant consumerism discourages any sort of impulse control or planning for the future.
That $6K could easily be your car or your house.
Americans blow all sorts of money on other crap. It's only paying doctors that is considered some great tragedy.
Even the lower working class does this. They also manage to scrape by and fend for themselves when hit with something like this too. Although they are in MUCH less of a position to.
Yeah, I'm sure my Mexican, Asian, Indian and even BLACK neighbors are just DYING to pay for hoochie mamas in the hood.
> That's because your pre-ACA insurance plan was crap that would not have covered you if you got a serious illness like cancer.
Utter bullshit, lame, canned, liberal narrative.
YOU are why people voted for Trump.
Why would anyone in the use pay for primary school in the US. That's just moronic. That's what white flight is for. You flee the hoods in the inner city that are your real problem. It's not how much money you blow on the school budget but how your neighbors view education.
Why should going bankrupt ever be a problem?
Trump has done it four times. Businesses do it all the time. They don't have some pathological fear of it. it is simply a too. Certainly our laws regarding personal bankruptcy have been corrupted (and very recently too).
It's not something that should really be a big deal. Plus most of us are starting from a better point than Europeans anyways. Better broke than dead waiting in line or getting substandard care.
NOBODY asks for this. They always want SOMEONE ELSE to bear the burden. Americans think that they can have it both ways and get something for nothing without getting the rest that comes with.
Nobody wants to pay for someone else. People don't even want to pay enough for themselves. They think they can get some sort of bargain or freebie on something that's deathly important.
It's like a Walmart sort of cheap junk for less mentality.
$50K is nothing to write home about in the States.
This is especially true for a heavily populated urban area similar to cities in Europe.
When I say that we make more, keep more, get taxed less, and our money goes farther i am not at all kidding.
There was some FISA vote during the campaign that violated one of his campaign promises. I nearly didn't vote for him over that. I only flipped back after McCain had his senior moment with Palin.
The NPR coverage of him really demystified him too.
Your narrative is utter BS designed to obscure your own party's failings. It's a big fat example of how modern liberals refuse any sort of personal responsibility.
The party ran a candidate that has been HATED for YEARS.
This hate was obvious to anyone that bothered to pay attention.
The fact that she went out of her way to antagonize those people didn't help.
It takes more than the right name to assume the throne here. Having a sufficiently charismatic husband is not good enough either. You have to be charismatic yourself. You have to actually be able to win an election.
Yeah. Possible collusion like speaking to a lawyer that just happens to be a Russian national. Not every Russian is a KGB agent.
The Russian in question seemed to have more ties to the DNC than to the Kremlin.
> Trumpy moron has no idea what leftism is.
You are why people defect from the party.
It's all global warming, regardless of whatever it is and it's all bad. Even if it is something that seems good like less drought.
The whole reason the protagonist was shat on was because he was a naturally conceived baby. It was not clear if babies were engineered or merely selected but the same level of genetic understanding was implied.
I think the real problem with this is that we're not nearly as smart as we think we are and this is tinkering with people. With people that are dying, this kind of thing makes more sense from the risk/reward perspective.
Not even remotely close. This is more like the development of the atomic bomb. Nice to see that this group isn't any smarter than anyone else and doesn't have to sense to have some apprehension about this.
Attempts to give deliver wifi to refugee camps is badly out of touch with Malsow's heirarchy of needs.
This is especially true in context with their other failings.
> So poor (or in this case lower middle class) people should be shamed for wanting to have families?
Pretty much.
Some of us grew up poor and have NO problem with this idea.
You should not have children you can't be responsible for. The state really shouldn't pay to to breed poverty. Can't be avoided though because the perpetrator can't be punished without also punishing the victims.