Whether or not 2 random things can be integrated together really has more to do with how open each of the components are. If you are dealing with some overly controlling proprietary vendor, mixing and matching tools together in interesting ways will likely be far more difficult and unlikely.
> Seriously, I don't see the problem with Wayland.
Spoken like someone who's never taken off the blinders long enough to try other things and see how these ideas stolen from other companies work in practice.
Wayland? Been there and done that already. Didn't like it the first time and probably won't like it when Canonical makes a bad copy.
The web is a "platform" I surfed on a 40Mhz 486. Flash is a resource hog but it really isn't that much of a resource hog.
The Fanboys seem intent on fixating on how poorly Flash performs when streaming video and glossing over the fact that it is used for more than just video.
Banning Flash essentially locks your users out of a great deal of the web.
If it manages to make useful annoying sites that insist on implementing basic functionality in Flash, then it will impress quite well enough.
If Linux users copped this kind of attitude for Flash, they would be portrayed as RMS worshiping hippies with little grip on reality by the same exact Apple fanboys that get their hate-on for Flash.
Just about no one in this discussion (including the blogger) realizes how expensive Concorde tickets were. I don't even think they are fully aware of how much conventional first class tickets can be.
The world needs speed plenty. It just never bought into the marginal cost of going slightly bit faster.
Being a discount "jet setter" is a big improvement over what it replaced, Concorde not so much.
You also have to acknowledge the fact that our grandparents simply were not "jet setters" of any sort. It didn't matter if it was a 707 or Concorde or even some prop driven job. Air travel was simply not within their means.
Now a smart shopper can go anywhere on the planet they want.
THAT is a significant improvement that is not altered by the fact that the mode of transport is no longer considered glamourous enough.
Flash has everything to do with the operating system.
The OS is what allows ANY THING to happen on a computer. It's what determines whether or not you have a real general purpose computational device or an appliance pretending to be something that it is not. PhoneOS disallows any number of things and just ignores others.
In the end, nearly nobody cares that the scaffolding underneath the proprietary GUI bits are Free Software. Nearly no one interacts with those parts of the system. On PhoneOS in particular, you aren't even allowed to see those parts of the system by default.
The only way you can verify for yourself that PhoneOS is a Darwin variant is to commit acts that Apple would declare illegal if they could.
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Emacs had CVS integration about 20 years ago.
Whether or not 2 random things can be integrated together really has more to do with how open each of the components are. If you are dealing with some overly controlling proprietary vendor, mixing and matching tools together in interesting ways will likely be far more difficult and unlikely.
...document files with version history or generic version control or generic document management.
Where would we be with Apple to invent these sorts of things for us? [sarcasm]
...yes a whole half of one percent of the US population.
You should probably cut that in half or by two thirds to consider world wide distribution.
It really helps to have a grasp of math when trying to put some of these numbers into perspective.
Any tool is what you make of it. TV is a vast wasteland if you choose to treat it that way.
Being smart at "playing politics" unfortunately usually doesn't equate to anything of much value in the real world.
"Running things" and playing games with the beaurocracy are entirely different things. People usually get the two confused.
> You want to change the MTU of your network card in Windows ...any MacOS user you ask will look at you like you are from Mars.
OTOH, figuring out how to ensure that some bit of remote storage is always mounted is rather arcane in MacOS.
...at least I can do it with the mouse, and it's pretty much how I've done it for 20+ years.
A visual interface (namely a GUI) should remain visual. Otherwise, you might as well just open a terminal and start typing.
Microsoft spent millions and still ended up with CRAP and p*ssed off customers.
Infact, it's safe to say that Microsoft, Apple, GNOME and Canonical are all proceeding from the same misguided "we know best" mentality.
No one seems to really pay attention to actual users anymore.
> like using the commercial equivalent circa 10 or 15 years ago
That would be the essential features you need without a lot of bloat and nonsense or new UI's that make the developers look like acid junkies.
So "being stuck in the past" is not such a bad thing really.
> Seriously, I don't see the problem with Wayland.
Spoken like someone who's never taken off the blinders long enough to try other things and see how these ideas stolen from other companies work in practice.
Wayland? Been there and done that already. Didn't like it the first time and probably won't like it when Canonical makes a bad copy.
> I'm not sure that Apple should itself be held responsible for the slimy practices of third-party developers
They are a platform tyrant.
They have chosen to make themselves responsible.
Now that there are consequences, they should own up to them.
Now web games do the same sort of thing. Although it's more difficult to get carried away with it.
The iTunes approach to in-app purchases is kind of like a slot machine that takes credit cards.
Considering that toddlers quickly lose the ability to perceive alien phonemes, this isn't such a bad idea really.
You are so funny. Fixating on ids. I remember when Slashdot didn't even have them.
> Is that a serious question?
Sure it is.
The web is a "platform" I surfed on a 40Mhz 486. Flash is a resource hog but it really isn't that much of a resource hog.
The Fanboys seem intent on fixating on how poorly Flash performs when streaming video and glossing over the fact that it is used for more than just video.
Banning Flash essentially locks your users out of a great deal of the web.
...on the other hand a 90 year old great-grandmother might be more comfortable with new tech than her daughter.
Some people are are going to be a problem no matter how easy you make things.
You are confused.
It's usually the Free Software purists that get the grief as most people simply don't care and don't appreciate the "virtue".
Even in the early days, not all Linux users were Free Software evangelicals.
It's a useful means to an end, a way to get around the problems inherent in the market.
One key advantage of Unix users in general is that not everyone drinks the cool-aid (or swims in it).
Yes. They all work by taking an 80s style proprietary approach to apps that present the content.
That's hardly progress.
Flash may be a proprietary standard but it is at least cross platform.
A proprietary PhoneOS binary is not.
> Have you ever used Flash on a non windows computer?
Yes. I have even done "side by side" comparisons.
When you are a Linux Zealot that's gotten the over the whole "Mac Mini as an HTPC" thing, that's pretty easy.
Windows is nothing special when it comes to Flash. Flash sucks on all platforms pretty much equally.
That's not to say that I advocate or condone platform tyrants trying to keep it from me.
It is my right to be tasteless however RMS or Steve Jobs might want to define that.
Why should I settle for LESS when I leave the "desktop"?
This is all about Apple Fanboys trying to make lame excuses that they would laugh at themselves if they came from Linux users.
That's kind of like saying that Flash is too heavy for a yesterdays Mac.
If it manages to make useful annoying sites that insist on implementing basic functionality in Flash, then it will impress quite well enough.
If Linux users copped this kind of attitude for Flash, they would be portrayed as RMS worshiping hippies with little grip on reality by the same exact Apple fanboys that get their hate-on for Flash.
Just about no one in this discussion (including the blogger) realizes how expensive Concorde tickets were. I don't even think they are fully aware of how much conventional first class tickets can be.
The world needs speed plenty. It just never bought into the marginal cost of going slightly bit faster.
Being a discount "jet setter" is a big improvement over what it replaced, Concorde not so much.
You also have to acknowledge the fact that our grandparents simply were not "jet setters" of any sort. It didn't matter if it was a 707 or Concorde or even some prop driven job. Air travel was simply not within their means.
Now a smart shopper can go anywhere on the planet they want.
THAT is a significant improvement that is not altered by the fact that the mode of transport is no longer considered glamourous enough.
Flash has everything to do with the operating system.
The OS is what allows ANY THING to happen on a computer. It's what determines whether or not you have a real general purpose computational device or an appliance pretending to be something that it is not. PhoneOS disallows any number of things and just ignores others.
In the end, nearly nobody cares that the scaffolding underneath the proprietary GUI bits are Free Software. Nearly no one interacts with those parts of the system. On PhoneOS in particular, you aren't even allowed to see those parts of the system by default.
The only way you can verify for yourself that PhoneOS is a Darwin variant is to commit acts that Apple would declare illegal if they could.
...yes of course, just gloss over the significance of management here.
"Talent" at Microsoft has never been the problem. It's always been about management and what their values and strategic direction are.
Vista is probably a shining example of that. Not to mention XP.