So, basically you're admitting that by design, this law priced his current coverage out of his reach, and forced him to buy insurance through a government controlled market. Fuck you.
Well that's absolute proof then, that the program that starts tomorrow is so bad that it went back in time and caused your insurance company to raise your rates. Because insurance rates never went up until Obamacare was passed.
I feel your pain. My dog never had worms before and now he's got worms. Goddamn Obama...
In the period leading up to the passage of the ACA in march 2010, were we not told repeatedly that coverage would be better, and less expensive? Fuck you.
The ACA made it entirely optional for states to set up exchanges. In cases where states choose not to create an exchange, the ACA created a federal exchange as an alternative. They have now had 3.5 years to create that exchange.
I don't want a shitty exchange health plan. I want to keep my current coverage. After doing a little more research it turns out some are predicting that an individual plan in Wisconsin, for a healthy young male could triple. Again, go to hell.
"People who get sick' aren't really a small subset.
How many people do you think live to old age without ever having to see a doctor?
And yet, the "younger crowd" seem to support Obamacare. Either they're wrong or you are. PPP shows that the 18-34 group are most likely to support Obamacare of all age demos.
What does that have to do with any of this? Again, how does making insurance more expensive incentivize people to quit their jobs, forgo their employer coverage, and found a startup?
I am 35, healthy, and actually founded a startup last year. In 2012, I paid $187 a month for good individual coverage. This year that coverage went up to $200 a month. I just got a letter from my insurer, offering to change the date of my insurance year to begin on Dec 1st. I can renew my current plan at $223 a month. They warned me that if I renew normally next March, my insurance will be considerably more expensive because the ACA rules will be in effect. In Wisconsin, estimates are that individual coverage for a 35 year old healthy male will increase %80. I fit the criteria of someone who is most harmed by the effects of this law.
Of course they told me that I can buy insurance on the Exchange, but rates and coverage options are not available yet. I'm sorry, I thought someone told me that I could keep my insurance if I like it. That someone forget to say that it would become so expensive that I won't be able to afford it. To all you people who supported this law, knowing that it wouldn't affect you, go to hell.
Great, you guys managed to identify a small subset that may benefit. So specifically, those with PEC's may benefit from leaving their job to found a startup. Everyone else is disincentivized with higher costs to pay for other's PEC coverage, particularly the younger crowd who is more likely to found a startup. Chances are, someone with a PEC will end up paying more than they would through eployer based coverage.
How does passing a law that causes individual health plans to increase in cost, incentivize someone to quit their job and and lose their employer subsidized health plan?
Right. Well, we're the Slashdot crown. And we're special. The only catastrophe would be if anyone thought we were average. So let's do something to prove we're not.
It's funny how catastrophe is constantly being pushed to just over the horizon. Just far enough ahead, so that when the time comes and it doesn't happen, people wont remember the actual prediction. There's a guy with a beard and long hair in Times Square who's been doing the same thing for 20 years. The end is near!
If he orders them to get moved, they get moved. He's not willing to expend the political capital it would take to issue that order. That makes him the opposite of a leader, and frankly a coward.
If only there was someone in charge, who had power over the executive branch of government, and could stop this. If there was, maybe we could start blaming that person until they acted.
I'm really getting sick of this. All it would take to stop all of this is a phone call from the President, who has sworn to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. People need to start blaming the person responsible, not some stupid bureaucracy.
Sure, If I was bitcoin I'd want some regulation as well. There's nothing like a regulatory barrier to entry to the market to keep uppity competitors at bay.
Pffft. Why not just deregulate taxi driving and be honest about it. I know Lyft drivers. They are *not* picking people up randomly. They treat it as a job and appreciate the income.
Because, silly. According to the article, companies receive a "big boost" when government begins to regulate their industry. Deregulation of taxi driving would obviously negate the, "big boost" they get from regulation. Considering how heavily regulated taxi drivers are, the boost must be gigantic.
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So, basically you're admitting that by design, this law priced his current coverage out of his reach, and forced him to buy insurance through a government controlled market. Fuck you.
You go get insurance on the exchange. He was told he can keep his insurance if he likes it.
Why should he look on the exchanges? He was promised he could keep his insurance if he liked it. Why don't you buy your insurance on the exchange?
Well that's absolute proof then, that the program that starts tomorrow is so bad that it went back in time and caused your insurance company to raise your rates. Because insurance rates never went up until Obamacare was passed.
I feel your pain. My dog never had worms before and now he's got worms. Goddamn Obama...
In the period leading up to the passage of the ACA in march 2010, were we not told repeatedly that coverage would be better, and less expensive? Fuck you.
The ACA made it entirely optional for states to set up exchanges. In cases where states choose not to create an exchange, the ACA created a federal exchange as an alternative. They have now had 3.5 years to create that exchange. I don't want a shitty exchange health plan. I want to keep my current coverage. After doing a little more research it turns out some are predicting that an individual plan in Wisconsin, for a healthy young male could triple. Again, go to hell.
"People who get sick' aren't really a small subset.
How many people do you think live to old age without ever having to see a doctor?
And yet, the "younger crowd" seem to support Obamacare. Either they're wrong or you are. PPP shows that the 18-34 group are most likely to support Obamacare of all age demos.
What does that have to do with any of this? Again, how does making insurance more expensive incentivize people to quit their jobs, forgo their employer coverage, and found a startup?
I am 35, healthy, and actually founded a startup last year. In 2012, I paid $187 a month for good individual coverage. This year that coverage went up to $200 a month. I just got a letter from my insurer, offering to change the date of my insurance year to begin on Dec 1st. I can renew my current plan at $223 a month. They warned me that if I renew normally next March, my insurance will be considerably more expensive because the ACA rules will be in effect. In Wisconsin, estimates are that individual coverage for a 35 year old healthy male will increase %80. I fit the criteria of someone who is most harmed by the effects of this law.
Of course they told me that I can buy insurance on the Exchange, but rates and coverage options are not available yet. I'm sorry, I thought someone told me that I could keep my insurance if I like it. That someone forget to say that it would become so expensive that I won't be able to afford it. To all you people who supported this law, knowing that it wouldn't affect you, go to hell.
Down-modded of course. When facts are inconvenient, -1.
Great, you guys managed to identify a small subset that may benefit. So specifically, those with PEC's may benefit from leaving their job to found a startup. Everyone else is disincentivized with higher costs to pay for other's PEC coverage, particularly the younger crowd who is more likely to found a startup. Chances are, someone with a PEC will end up paying more than they would through eployer based coverage.
How does passing a law that causes individual health plans to increase in cost, incentivize someone to quit their job and and lose their employer subsidized health plan?
The first washing machines were made out of wood you idiot.
Heh. It takes willful ignorance to watch the news and accept it as fact.
I's like to see the data that says we're getting more droughts, floods, and massive storms.
No. It is enabled by social progess.
You have that backwards. Women's liberation was driven by washing machines, dishwashers, and store-bought food and clothing.
No, they didn't. You're just an idiot.
They predicted more droughts, floods, massive storms. Exactly like we've had since 2007.
Exactly like we've had since the beginning of recorded history, you mean.
Yeah, I guess the President can't be blamed then. After all, he's just protecting his reputation from an agency he controls.
Right. Well, we're the Slashdot crown. And we're special. The only catastrophe would be if anyone thought we were average. So let's do something to prove we're not.
It's funny how catastrophe is constantly being pushed to just over the horizon. Just far enough ahead, so that when the time comes and it doesn't happen, people wont remember the actual prediction. There's a guy with a beard and long hair in Times Square who's been doing the same thing for 20 years. The end is near!
If he orders them to get moved, they get moved. He's not willing to expend the political capital it would take to issue that order. That makes him the opposite of a leader, and frankly a coward.
Did those other president's lose their licences to practice law because they got a bj?
If only there was someone in charge, who had power over the executive branch of government, and could stop this. If there was, maybe we could start blaming that person until they acted.
I'm really getting sick of this. All it would take to stop all of this is a phone call from the President, who has sworn to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. People need to start blaming the person responsible, not some stupid bureaucracy.
Nobody understands debt, including Paul Krugman.
Sure, If I was bitcoin I'd want some regulation as well. There's nothing like a regulatory barrier to entry to the market to keep uppity competitors at bay.
Pffft. Why not just deregulate taxi driving and be honest about it. I know Lyft drivers. They are *not* picking people up randomly. They treat it as a job and appreciate the income.
Because, silly. According to the article, companies receive a "big boost" when government begins to regulate their industry. Deregulation of taxi driving would obviously negate the, "big boost" they get from regulation. Considering how heavily regulated taxi drivers are, the boost must be gigantic.
Sorry, I should have said, "it's only treasonous or racist when Bush, or some other generic Republican does it."