I know NOW that I definitely don't want to come into a hospital on your shift. You'd just have a long list of equipment and medical jargon buzzwords to hurl at me. In a situation where said equipment wasn't right on hand, calibrated, and power available to operate it, I'd be fucked.
You really, REALLY need to get outta the healthcare industry. Maybe you can get shunted off to a job at the FDA as one of the people obstructing advances in Medical Device development. You could be one of the people with the '$10,000,000 more of efficacy studies needed' rubberstamps.
He'll never get his drive back - even if they wanted to they're not going to be able to be certain who's drive is who's and the potential liability of giving him the wrong drive makes it a non-starter.
Clearly, then, they need to have an auditable video recording to give the customer showing the old drive being removed from his machine and shredded. A timestamped video burned to DVD would probably be adequate.
They can't have it both ways and claim the drive is 'too secret' to potentially give him another customer's drive, and yet not have a chain of evidence proving his drive wasn't shredded.
I thought everybody had agreed that these bulbs last for ages and ages. So is this container, where they will accumulate so that they can be brought in every ten years when there are four to be disposed, going to be hardened and safety-proof so children can't get in it and break said bulbs for fun?
I think a safety commission needs to get on this matter immediately, and every home supplied with a disposal container, similar to a 'sharps' container for needles. The CFL manufacturers can be made responsible for the cost. Or maybe it can be funded with magic money from our taxes...
Get your electrical checked. That's almost certainly a sign of faulty or poor quality wiring.
So CF bulbs are not only far more expensive, they require people to rewire their houses?
Just get a higher-quality bulb.
Maybe higher standards should be mandated by the government. Perhaps old wiring should be condemned, and light bulbs should cost at least $18 apiece. That would put the 'lower classes' in their place- in the dark.
You'd better stop using that particular bullet point over and over, because people here on Slashdot are smarter than average.
Also, we probably are entitled to a little more information about how the mercury is recovered safely and efficently in this nebulous 'recycling' scheme you mention. What is the process, and how much of the mercury is recovered. At what energy cost?
Don't figet and fumble through your leaflet looking for a market-speak response, we want real figures, since you're the enthusiast for spouting answers to every reasonable doubt expressed.
It sounds like you've had bad experiences with early CFLs;
And here I had been led to believe that they last so much longer. Are we now to believe that any poor sucker who bought into these things five years ago won't* be getting the 10 or 20 years life that the hype led them to believe, unless they're happy with the older buzzy flickery ones? Are we supposed to believe the hype this time because now it's really-really not hype?
CFLs contain mercury. How are people supposed to safely discard them? Toss them in the garbage or put them in the recycling?
Ship them, loose, in sealed containers to your congressman, so that they're likely to break en-route but the package seal won't be opened until they arrive at his/her office.
Don't worry. With this sort of overweening legislation becoming the norm, you'll soon be prohibited from operating a home darkroom.
You didn't really think they were going to continue allowing you to have and dispose of those _dangerous chemicals_ in a residence, did you? Besides which, you're soon to be assigned a high-rise apartment along a rapid-transit corridor, where we will all live. There won't be room for a darkroom in your 'unit,' citizen.
Apparently you weren't around to remember. A lot of us continued buying vinyl records for a long time after the introduction of the CD. 'Compact Disk' players were for rich snobs like the announcer on the Classical Music Station (not the NPR one) for years before regular people were buying them.
What exactly was government for again, I forgot..
Obviously, it's here to order us around, because humans are incapable of making choices for themselves.
Garage? Don't give them any ideas. By 2012 the plan is that you will be living in high-density high-rise apartments (featuring windows that don't open) along a rapid-transit corridor. You won't have a garage, or a need for a garage. If you're lucky your apartment might have a little terrace on it where you can put a few house plants in the summer. If you're an automotive enthusiast, there will probably be a racetrack facility somewhere on the outskirts of town where you can still drive bio-diesel fueled go-carts on the weekends, and even tinker with the engines on them.
Well, I personally don't feel comfortable betting my progeny's survival on your beliefs.
Well, I feel comfort in the knowledge that with your overweening paternalistic attitude, your 'progeny' will completely rebel against you. I just hope your daughter doesn't end a crack-whore as a result.
It's a win-win situation for big-government advocates. The new CF bulbs are hazardous waste, you see. So an end-to-end recycling operation is even MORE important once they're in wide usage. Also, recycling will make more economic sense once the amount of hazardous waste produced by bulb disposal requirements is ramped up. The false hyped-up economic model used to demonstrate economic 'benefits' of recycling can be replaced with the dire reality of hazardous waste disposal.
The best solution that I have heard was a little bit terroristic, so I defintely _don't_ advocate it, but it is a nice thought:
Somebody delivers a huge shipment of compact flourescent bulbs to the US Capital building. However, the whole shipment is crushed as soon as it's delivered. The mercury vapor escapes and it becomes a hazardous waste situation. Ideally this feat is accomplished at a time when Congress is in session, and when there are lots of media people around with cameras.
From what I have read, when a (non-upper caste) Cuban checks into the hospital, his family is expected to bring along not just the food and bedding, but also the light bulbs.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to read that some Castro speech had decreed that all light was moving to 'the new light globes.' There's always a LOT of stuff like that in Castro speeches. They go for hours, and are definitely kitchen sink affairs.
Correction: According to Karl Marx back in the 1860's, capitalism was going to just be a phase.
Fortunately, political and economic science didn't come to a screeching halt right after Marx wrote his tomes. Progress in those fields was rather frozen in parts of the world (in places where Marx's writing were converted into a dogma) but not everywhere.
As is the case with most well-implemented dongles, it's hard to describe the extent and functionality of the dongle. In the case of Apple it's deeply embedded in the system. It prevents MacOS from running on any system that doesn't contain the dongle.
This cheap P4 clone motherboard that I'm running NetBSD on, for instance, doesn't contain Apple's hardware dongle. So it can't run MacOS.
Why are you flipping back and forth from 'we must save everything' to 'we should save nothing'?
Also, your accusation that I have some dark motive for 'minimizing the importance of a historical record' is pretty ridiculous. You know how you obscure history? You pile lots and lots and lots of trivia in with it so it's difficult to sort out.
So go ahead and archive your junk mail and spam if you like. Just don't expect us to admire you for the practice.
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I know NOW that I definitely don't want to come into a hospital on your shift. You'd just have a long list of equipment and medical jargon buzzwords to hurl at me. In a situation where said equipment wasn't right on hand, calibrated, and power available to operate it, I'd be fucked.
You really, REALLY need to get outta the healthcare industry. Maybe you can get shunted off to a job at the FDA as one of the people obstructing advances in Medical Device development. You could be one of the people with the '$10,000,000 more of efficacy studies needed' rubberstamps.
He'll never get his drive back - even if they wanted to they're not going to be able to be certain who's drive is who's and the potential liability of giving him the wrong drive makes it a non-starter.
Clearly, then, they need to have an auditable video recording to give the customer showing the old drive being removed from his machine and shredded. A timestamped video burned to DVD would probably be adequate.
They can't have it both ways and claim the drive is 'too secret' to potentially give him another customer's drive, and yet not have a chain of evidence proving his drive wasn't shredded.
I thought everybody had agreed that these bulbs last for ages and ages. So is this container, where they will accumulate so that they can be brought in every ten years when there are four to be disposed, going to be hardened and safety-proof so children can't get in it and break said bulbs for fun?
I think a safety commission needs to get on this matter immediately, and every home supplied with a disposal container, similar to a 'sharps' container for needles. The CFL manufacturers can be made responsible for the cost. Or maybe it can be funded with magic money from our taxes...
Aren't LEDs doped with arsenic?
Or was the arsenic scare just an early ruse to whip up hysteria when Bush first took office?
Our local Walmart puts out collection containers for plastic bags and asks customers to bring them back.
And I am living in a very environmental-hostile part of the midwest. It gets actually creepy here with the backwardness.
Get your electrical checked. That's almost certainly a sign of faulty or poor quality wiring.
So CF bulbs are not only far more expensive, they require people to rewire their houses?
Just get a higher-quality bulb.
Maybe higher standards should be mandated by the government. Perhaps old wiring should be condemned, and light bulbs should cost at least $18 apiece. That would put the 'lower classes' in their place- in the dark.
Yep. You can be the guy with the Linears, 23-channel CB rigs, and now light bulbs, who all the hams shun. heh.
Not.... all.... electricity.... comes.... from.... burning.... coal.
You'd better stop using that particular bullet point over and over, because people here on Slashdot are smarter than average.
Also, we probably are entitled to a little more information about how the mercury is recovered safely and efficently in this nebulous 'recycling' scheme you mention. What is the process, and how much of the mercury is recovered. At what energy cost?
Don't figet and fumble through your leaflet looking for a market-speak response, we want real figures, since you're the enthusiast for spouting answers to every reasonable doubt expressed.
It sounds like you've had bad experiences with early CFLs;
And here I had been led to believe that they last so much longer. Are we now to believe that any poor sucker who bought into these things five years ago won't* be getting the 10 or 20 years life that the hype led them to believe, unless they're happy with the older buzzy flickery ones? Are we supposed to believe the hype this time because now it's really-really not hype?
CFLs contain mercury. How are people supposed to safely discard them? Toss them in the garbage or put them in the recycling?
Ship them, loose, in sealed containers to your congressman, so that they're likely to break en-route but the package seal won't be opened until they arrive at his/her office.
And, again, heat pumps are very inefficient in setting where heat is only needed for a fraction of the year.
But don't let me bumble in and interfere with your simplistic arguementation.
Don't worry. With this sort of overweening legislation becoming the norm, you'll soon be prohibited from operating a home darkroom.
You didn't really think they were going to continue allowing you to have and dispose of those _dangerous chemicals_ in a residence, did you? Besides which, you're soon to be assigned a high-rise apartment along a rapid-transit corridor, where we will all live. There won't be room for a darkroom in your 'unit,' citizen.
Apparently you weren't around to remember. A lot of us continued buying vinyl records for a long time after the introduction of the CD. 'Compact Disk' players were for rich snobs like the announcer on the Classical Music Station (not the NPR one) for years before regular people were buying them.
What exactly was government for again, I forgot..
Obviously, it's here to order us around, because humans are incapable of making choices for themselves.
Garage? Don't give them any ideas. By 2012 the plan is that you will be living in high-density high-rise apartments (featuring windows that don't open) along a rapid-transit corridor. You won't have a garage, or a need for a garage. If you're lucky your apartment might have a little terrace on it where you can put a few house plants in the summer. If you're an automotive enthusiast, there will probably be a racetrack facility somewhere on the outskirts of town where you can still drive bio-diesel fueled go-carts on the weekends, and even tinker with the engines on them.
Well, I personally don't feel comfortable betting my progeny's survival on your beliefs.
Well, I feel comfort in the knowledge that with your overweening paternalistic attitude, your 'progeny' will completely rebel against you. I just hope your daughter doesn't end a crack-whore as a result.
Better keep an eye on her web cam usage.
It's a win-win situation for big-government advocates. The new CF bulbs are hazardous waste, you see. So an end-to-end recycling operation is even MORE important once they're in wide usage. Also, recycling will make more economic sense once the amount of hazardous waste produced by bulb disposal requirements is ramped up. The false hyped-up economic model used to demonstrate economic 'benefits' of recycling can be replaced with the dire reality of hazardous waste disposal.
The best solution that I have heard was a little bit terroristic, so I defintely _don't_ advocate it, but it is a nice thought:
Somebody delivers a huge shipment of compact flourescent bulbs to the US Capital building. However, the whole shipment is crushed as soon as it's delivered. The mercury vapor escapes and it becomes a hazardous waste situation. Ideally this feat is accomplished at a time when Congress is in session, and when there are lots of media people around with cameras.
From what I have read, when a (non-upper caste) Cuban checks into the hospital, his family is expected to bring along not just the food and bedding, but also the light bulbs.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to read that some Castro speech had decreed that all light was moving to 'the new light globes.' There's always a LOT of stuff like that in Castro speeches. They go for hours, and are definitely kitchen sink affairs.
Correction: According to Karl Marx back in the 1860's, capitalism was going to just be a phase.
Fortunately, political and economic science didn't come to a screeching halt right after Marx wrote his tomes. Progress in those fields was rather frozen in parts of the world (in places where Marx's writing were converted into a dogma) but not everywhere.
We feed one bird in particular. Of course, it's a red-tailed hawk, and it dines on 'food' that we attract with regular bird food and a feeder.
They are competing with the 'I don't even OWN a television set' guy to be cool and hip.
What's most likely is that Hitchens wanted to sell more copies of his books.
As is the case with most well-implemented dongles, it's hard to describe the extent and functionality of the dongle. In the case of Apple it's deeply embedded in the system. It prevents MacOS from running on any system that doesn't contain the dongle.
This cheap P4 clone motherboard that I'm running NetBSD on, for instance, doesn't contain Apple's hardware dongle. So it can't run MacOS.
Why are you flipping back and forth from 'we must save everything' to 'we should save nothing'?
Also, your accusation that I have some dark motive for 'minimizing the importance of a historical record' is pretty ridiculous. You know how you obscure history? You pile lots and lots and lots of trivia in with it so it's difficult to sort out.
So go ahead and archive your junk mail and spam if you like. Just don't expect us to admire you for the practice.
Well, the quality of writing in the best U.S. newspapers is better than the writing in U.S. newspapers, too. What was your point??