Would this have been posted had been any other company than Microsoft running the show
Yes. Slashdot posted at least some stuff when Kasparov faced the BGig Blue. And IBM defintely did not have to change the rules in mid game or behave pathetically.
Nothing amazing. There was a very good old movie from the period of the dark realism in france. With Alain Delon, Stéphane Audran, Klaus Kinski and Ornela Mutti.
The name is "Mort d'un pourri" which (exfcuse me for my french) is something like "The death of the S.O.B.". Maybe the best movie about politics ever made. Watch it. And read the article again.
Actually it is the thing to watch before any election.
I agree - that's why I distinguished between "bad" and "illegal". My point is that I think cracking is both of those things and the article seems to dismiss the possibility that it is either.
Cracking by whom? By the government?
That is not illegal. At least as of now. It is their right protected by the law. Key escrow, export regulations, various attempts to pass bills about cracking into user computers, antyencryption campain, etc.
As of now installing quake and other ID games on linux is a dirty hack - you have to pay for a wintel installation get the binaries from somewhere, etc.
This still better than nothing of course, but the question still stands - are you going to start releasing real linux, BSD, etc distirbutions. If not yourself through the major linux or otther unix players as retailers maybe? Even with no support as now?
The acceleration of a solar sail drops as inverse cube of your distance from the sun. It will very fast become comparable to friction from interstellar matter after you pass Pluto (cannot say off the top of my head but this can be calculated).
It may be a feasible way to move things cheap and clean between earth orbit and mercury, venus and mars but that's about it.
If you want to use solar sail your only feasible option for launching something fast past Jup will be to pull the crazy stunt of deccelerating towards the sun with the solar sail and using the sun's gravity well and the solar wind after that to get yourself up to max speed. In either case you are hardly going to get anything very high.
A ion drive seems to be much more feasible (or a combination - start on sail, go towards the sun, use the well to accelerate, accelerate further on sail, dump it and continue on a ion).
This of course assumes that someone will be able to get a working ion drive (in other words a decent proton accelerator in space). It does indeed have constant acceleration until you run out of reactive matter. And all you need is an electrical power supply. F.e. nuclear power generator and a tank of hydrogen to ionize and accelerate.
This artcile is a very bad piece of work. The authro did not do her homework properly
Only a select number of terrorist groups and few state sponsors are likely to possess the necessary motivation and capability in the spheres of organisation, funding, acquisition, technology, storage and stockpiling, logistics, and other overt and covert resources to be able to make the transition from conventional to CBRN/Cyber warfare. For many, the numerous internal and external tasks and hurdles involved in acquiring, storing and deploying such sophisticated weaponry and devices are simply too much. Moreover, few terrorist groups and state sponsors are sufficiently motivated to carry out mass casualty or mass disruption warfare.
Well the necessary means of cyber disruption are verys simple 33K modem, an old 486 running Linux or BSD and a brain. It is true that few terrorists have the necessary knowledge but this does not mean that they may not hire someone. And this will be cheaper then bying and smuggling explosives and weaponry.
On the other hand, the information revolution ushered in by the Internet allows terrorists to access articles and documents from the World Wide Web about the manufacture or acquisition of BW or CW agents, and commercial-off-the-shelf (COTS) software products can easily be obtained to conduct cyberterrorism, making CB/Cyber attacks much more feasible to launch than hitherto. Radiological and nuclear weapons, however, are far more difficult for terrorist groups to acquire or to develop indigenously, to weaponise and deploy, or to provide storage for.
Commercial and off the shelf solutions are mostly applicable after a breakin has been commited - i.e. for maintianing access, deciphering data, etc. So they come to play after the breaking which once again requires few resources and some brain.
Significant financial resources are required for terrorist groups to develop an indigenous CBRN/Cyber operational capability unless a group succeeds in weaponising a crude, low-technology device, or stealing or hijacking such a device.
Yet another dumb statement.
You can make a microwave cannon in your garage. No point of stealing it. And you can knock out an enitre stock exchange with it.
It takes a modem and a unix box to break in in a remote machine. It is neither stolen no expensive.
Overall very very very bad article with the following bad implications hidden between the lines:
The availability of security related information on the internet is _BAD_
From my personal experience 99.9% of attacks come from an already hacked site. It is interesting that they did not use a university as a staging area which is the usual case.
No point to be sorry. About 2M slashdotters were going to ask them as well. I was going to ask also: What is the CPU? What is the networking? How about docking? Does it run FreeBSD, NetBSD, Open BSD?
People print like crazy for the following reasons:
They cannot rely on the fact that their machine and/or email system will not crash in five minutes
The standard resolution of a modern display cannot display a one page document really clear in reasonable size. Try to make Acroread zoom to fit page on a 1024x768 for example.
Overall the mad priniting will continue and there is nothing we can do about it until the average resolution on an end user display will go beyond 1600x1200 and the PC's become more reliable storage than paper.
P.S.
I am skipping any sort of discussion about any legal stuff.
Being a rational being myself I skip any sort of discussion about people who invent office data flow that requires you to fill a spreadsheet, print it and than the accouting department to reenter this data again from the printed copy into a computer, and so on, and so on.
There is no way you can stop this kind of killing of trees without fire (to be more exact firing...)
Skipping the comments on whom do they resemble with this practice you are indeed right:
All support for the pre-Sun age has been discontinued. There is no way you can verify licence codes, reclaim support or whatever (at least from the Sun site at the moment).
This may be the state with a lot of us but it is off topic.
Is the source still available?
The proper way to put it is: is it now available? While stardivision was doing it it was closed source.
Maybe we could re-write SO under GPL and give it better features.
This will be rather stupid. Staroffice has a huge penalty in the form of an overhead for windoze compatibilty combined with the provisions for the best beloved Solaris/Windoze threads. This will kill you performancewise. It makes more sence to see how things should not be done, pick up some information on some file formats and write from scratch.
Sun has been the MS of Unix for a long time now.
Questionable, but maybe you have a point. I will remind you that all big guys, together, nicely and jointly removed the compilers from their systems, introduced the cursed CDE and so on simultaneously (around '94). In terms of M$ like behaviour Sun has never been the solo singer.
They make very slow machines but they make you think you need it.
Well, becnhmarks are usually selfexplanatory. And there are few benches where Sun is doing good even now days. So the question is what do you need the machine for (and of course what kind of extensions have installed on it).
this just goes to show you how hyperreactive the linux crowd is. embarassing to us all, really.
A note: it took them more than a week for this one and before the "clarification" the copyright should have been understood as on all the distirbution. And it took may be more flame and flack that anything for the last two years.
Overall, let's see the licence slpapped on the distirbution.
The cite does not post the full document. From what is posted it is actually much more reactionary than you expect.
It looks like the subject is any program that endangers data systems. Ergo this also covers exploits and intrusion software.
The direct result is that if I download/keep intrusion/exploits on my computer in order to develop security fixes for them or test if my machine is vulnerable I am a criminal.
This also renders rootshell, insecure.org and bugtraq illegal for hosting and potentially reading (don't you love netscrape and IE for saving cached copies on your machine;-) in finland.
Overall the information is rather scarce but this seems to be even worse then the recent AU censorship showdown.
They will not screw it up and dump it because there is hardly any chance of them making any money with corel office on any paltform but Linux and BSD. (It runs as linux emulation under BSD's while Staroffice does not because of the threads).
What I wonder is, as unlikely as it is given the reaction mechanism I just described, what would happen if a company took a GPLed product and suddenly turned it closed-source? Yes, they're violating a license, but who sues in this case?
Who went IPO lately? This will eat their multimillion bread. Do you think they will allow it?
I may be wrong, but from what I recall: There was a point when some parts of the WWW development as a standard were still getting DARPA money. And at least at that time Netscape was actually officially authorized to extend the protocol specs. This was somewhere back in 1995 I think...
Well if they do not fix it they are up for a very interesting investigation in the light of their claim of the "product being developed with no federal fundning".
Quote from lance.c
Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the Director, National Security Agency.
And contrarily to the GPL issue where there questions of "private distribution" there is no question of private versus federal here.
I am definitely going to get nailed for posting this three times but so what.
Do you people ever read?
There is a statement in this licence that no parts of the work has received federal funding. On the contrary there is quite a lot of fed funded intellectual property in linux. For example half of the linux ethernet work has been funded by NASA and is copyrighted:
Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the Director, National Security Agency.
So this corel thing is actually a fraud punishable by federal law. And that is besides the GPL
Slashdot Mirror
Yes. Slashdot posted at least some stuff when Kasparov faced the BGig Blue. And IBM defintely did not have to change the rules in mid game or behave pathetically.
Nothing amazing. There was a very good old movie from the period of the dark realism in france. With Alain Delon, Stéphane Audran, Klaus Kinski and Ornela Mutti.
The name is "Mort d'un pourri" which (exfcuse me for my french) is something like "The death of the S.O.B.". Maybe the best movie about politics ever made. Watch it. And read the article again.
Actually it is the thing to watch before any election.
Cracking by whom? By the government?
That is not illegal. At least as of now. It is their right protected by the law. Key escrow, export regulations, various attempts to pass bills about cracking into user computers, antyencryption campain, etc.
I am not saying it is not bad though...
And you indeed missed the point...
As of now installing quake and other ID games on linux is a dirty hack - you have to pay for a wintel installation get the binaries from somewhere, etc.
This still better than nothing of course, but the question still stands - are you going to start releasing real linux, BSD, etc distirbutions. If not yourself through the major linux or otther unix players as retailers maybe? Even with no support as now?
The acceleration of a solar sail drops as inverse cube of your distance from the sun. It will very fast become comparable to friction from interstellar matter after you pass Pluto (cannot say off the top of my head but this can be calculated).
It may be a feasible way to move things cheap and clean between earth orbit and mercury, venus and mars but that's about it.
If you want to use solar sail your only feasible option for launching something fast past Jup will be to pull the crazy stunt of deccelerating towards the sun with the solar sail and using the sun's gravity well and the solar wind after that to get yourself up to max speed. In either case you are hardly going to get anything very high.
A ion drive seems to be much more feasible (or a combination - start on sail, go towards the sun, use the well to accelerate, accelerate further on sail, dump it and continue on a ion).
This of course assumes that someone will be able to get a working ion drive (in other words a decent proton accelerator in space). It does indeed have constant acceleration until you run out of reactive matter. And all you need is an electrical power supply. F.e. nuclear power generator and a tank of hydrogen to ionize and accelerate.
Only a select number of terrorist groups and few state sponsors are likely to possess the necessary motivation and capability in the spheres of organisation, funding, acquisition, technology, storage and stockpiling, logistics, and other overt and covert resources to be able to make the transition from conventional to CBRN/Cyber warfare. For many, the numerous internal and external tasks and hurdles involved in acquiring, storing and deploying such sophisticated weaponry and devices are simply too much. Moreover, few terrorist groups and state sponsors are sufficiently motivated to carry out mass casualty or mass disruption warfare.
Well the necessary means of cyber disruption are verys simple 33K modem, an old 486 running Linux or BSD and a brain. It is true that few terrorists have the necessary knowledge but this does not mean that they may not hire someone. And this will be cheaper then bying and smuggling explosives and weaponry.
On the other hand, the information revolution ushered in by the Internet allows terrorists to access
articles and documents from the World Wide Web about the manufacture or acquisition of BW or CW
agents, and commercial-off-the-shelf (COTS) software products can easily be obtained to conduct
cyberterrorism, making CB/Cyber attacks much more feasible to launch than hitherto. Radiological and
nuclear weapons, however, are far more difficult for terrorist groups to acquire or to develop
indigenously, to weaponise and deploy, or to provide storage for.
Commercial and off the shelf solutions are mostly applicable after a breakin has been commited - i.e. for maintianing access, deciphering data, etc. So they come to play after the breaking which once again requires few resources and some brain.
Significant financial resources are required for terrorist groups to develop an indigenous CBRN/Cyber
operational capability unless a group succeeds in weaponising a crude, low-technology device, or
stealing or hijacking such a device.
Yet another dumb statement.
Overall very very very bad article with the following bad implications hidden between the lines:
The availability of security related information on the internet is _BAD_
Very very very good point.
From my personal experience 99.9% of attacks come from an already hacked site. It is interesting that they did not use a university as a staging area which is the usual case.
Dern the profits being pulled from this lines.
This means that anybody who suffered service deprivation did not have real resilience. In other words dern backbone overbooking.
absorbed in the latest
There is. You are going to get overrun by a bus or get your wallet stolen...
There are still apps for these. When used with a keyboard they are much more convinent than a laptop on trains, planes or during installations.
No point to be sorry. About 2M slashdotters were going to ask them as well. I was going to ask also:
What is the CPU?
What is the networking?
How about docking?
Does it run FreeBSD, NetBSD, Open BSD?
Mindcrafting has been a well known practice for years. And actually M$ has never been the _best_ at it.
TPCD, threading becnhmarsk for Sol, so on so on son.
Overall, load the big FUD gun battery, commence countdown and fire...
The OpenSource community has yet to learn how to use this essential business practice.
- They cannot rely on the fact that their machine and/or email system will not crash in five minutes
- The standard resolution of a modern display cannot display a one page document really clear in reasonable size. Try to make Acroread zoom to fit page on a 1024x768 for example.
Overall the mad priniting will continue and there is nothing we can do about it until the average resolution on an end user display will go beyond 1600x1200 and the PC's become more reliable storage than paper.P.S.
- I am skipping any sort of discussion about any legal stuff.
- Being a rational being myself I skip any sort of discussion about people who invent office data flow that requires you to fill a spreadsheet, print it and than the accouting department to reenter this data again from the printed copy into a computer, and so on, and so on.
There is no way you can stop this kind of killing of trees without fire (to be more exact firingSkipping the comments on whom do they resemble with this practice you are indeed right:
All support for the pre-Sun age has been discontinued. There is no way you can verify licence codes, reclaim support or whatever (at least from the Sun site at the moment).
This is a very interesting precedent on software bundling. Can someone find any ref to the original case and publish it somewhere?
On a site that can survive a slashdot assault if possible...
MOre stripped, Portal compatible ports - yes. Development on standalone app - least likely... You do not kill your tentative piece of bread...
I have hated Sun for a very long time now.
This may be the state with a lot of us but it is off topic.
Is the source still available?
The proper way to put it is: is it now available? While stardivision was doing it it was closed source.
Maybe we could re-write SO under GPL and give it better features.
This will be rather stupid. Staroffice has a huge penalty in the form of an overhead for windoze compatibilty combined with the provisions for the best beloved Solaris/Windoze threads. This will kill you performancewise. It makes more sence to see how things should not be done, pick up some information on some file formats and write from scratch.
Sun has been the MS of Unix for a long time now.
Questionable, but maybe you have a point. I will remind you that all big guys, together, nicely and jointly removed the compilers from their systems, introduced the cursed CDE and so on simultaneously (around '94). In terms of M$ like behaviour Sun has never been the solo singer.
They make very slow machines but they make you think you need it.
Well, becnhmarks are usually selfexplanatory. And there are few benches where Sun is doing good even now days. So the question is what do you need the machine for (and of course what kind of extensions have installed on it).
A note: it took them more than a week for this one and before the "clarification" the copyright should have been understood as on all the distirbution. And it took may be more flame and flack that anything for the last two years.
Overall, let's see the licence slpapped on the distirbution.
The cite does not post the full document. From what is posted it is actually much more reactionary than you expect.
;-) in finland.
It looks like the subject is any program that endangers data systems. Ergo this also covers exploits and intrusion software.
The direct result is that if I download/keep intrusion/exploits on my computer in order to develop security fixes for them or test if my machine is vulnerable I am a criminal.
This also renders rootshell, insecure.org and bugtraq illegal for hosting and potentially reading (don't you love netscrape and IE for saving cached copies on your machine
Overall the information is rather scarce but this seems to be even worse then the recent AU censorship showdown.
They will not screw it up and dump it because there is hardly any chance of them making any money with corel office on any paltform but Linux and BSD. (It runs as linux emulation under BSD's while Staroffice does not because of the threads).
Who went IPO lately? This will eat their multimillion bread. Do you think they will allow it?
What goes up, must come down. Ask any system administrator.
./ assault.
And that exactly what happened. Considering the name not really amazing. few sites can survive a full
I may be wrong, but from what I recall: ...
There was a point when some parts of the WWW development as a standard were still getting DARPA money. And at least at that time Netscape was actually officially authorized to extend the protocol specs. This was somewhere back in 1995 I think
I do not assume. Not switching to decaf either ;-)
;-)
The statement as provided in the corel licence is for
US government entities perusal.
Which reminds me of the a part of my original post which is "do you people ever read"
Well if they do not fix it they are up for a very interesting investigation in the light of their claim of the "product being developed with no federal fundning".
Quote from lance.c
Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the Director, National Security Agency.
And contrarily to the GPL issue where there questions of "private distribution" there is no question of private versus federal here.
Do you people ever read?
There is a statement in this licence that no parts of the work has received federal funding. On the contrary there is quite a lot of fed funded intellectual property in linux. For example half of the linux ethernet work has been funded by NASA and is copyrighted:
Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the Director, National Security Agency.
So this corel thing is actually a fraud punishable by federal law. And that is besides the GPL