Sorry buddy, the licence as stated is a federal offence. Namely a quote from the kernel source:
"Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the Director, National Security Agency."
Corel presents its product as having no federal funding whatsoever. So besides the GPL it has also performed a fairly nice fed funding fraud which is punishable by a fairly long jail term.
Human genes at the current phase of research are not that interesting. The interest in the sequences of microorganisms that cause diseases is much greater.
The reason for this is that as long as you patent all relevant sequences specific for the diagnostics of a disease (for example the interesting G-rich parts from a viral genome) you possess monopoly on the diagnostics of that disease.
Contrarily to the human genome where most of the stuff is still theory, this is actual practice. And it being is widely used/abused.
The violation of the GPL is actually the less dangerous part of this interesting document.
The more interesting part is the fraudulent use of federal fundning. The first thing coming to mind when reading the so called "classification of the software" is the licence/copyright on most Linux ethernet drivers (and actually quite a lot of other stuff).
Quote (from the classic lance.c):
Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the Director, National Security Agency.
So this licence as presented by Corel comprises a fraudlent use of federal funding. Being not familiar with the exact formulae for calcualating jail terms and fines I will leave them as an exercise to the more educated readers.
I do not read news. They are usually full of crap. There were some msgs on linux-kernel but nothing really problematic.
I have used all sorts of vortex descendants for years and I am using them in mission critical equipment now. They have their problems (especially some batches) but they are hardly driver related. These are usually tranciever incompatibilities with some "new and hot" network equipment or unfortunately deffects (3com no longer has its quality of the 3c509 years when out of 10000 boards none gave a single fault for a year).
OK. Now some m... has modified the rating to be off topic. Unfortunately it is right on.
The most important thing about Y2K is that everyone is using it as a scarecrow. The problem is not in the bugs in some badly written OSes, languages, etc, but in the massive panic. And of course in the fact that some people use it to raise political or financial dividends.
I would personally doubt the "flamebait" rating for this post. It is an insight. And actually a very bright one, because there are hardly any mission critical systems running on computers in the targeted countries/regions. There, even the water bills are still done by hand.
Do not understand me wrong. I am not saying that these countries are computer retarted. But their municipal systems and other stuff mentioned in the report is. And it actually _is_ retarded to the point of not using computers. So no Y2K there.
Overall the only reasonable note on Y2K in the entire report is the "small airports" stuff. As few of the readers may know Gabriel (the airline booking systems) used to run on X25. And most of the X25 stuff is not Y2k compliant. And in some of the remote areas around the world it still uses X25.
I would rather worry about countries with idiotic schemes for selecting the local analogue of SSN. For example bulgaria uses SSNs with 2 digit numbers. And they are used everywhere - financial sofwtare, municipal software, etc. And there will be quite a lot of Y2K fun there (though it will actually start quite after new year).
Lots and lots of hype, but why? 1. Almost all 3com cards run like a lightning with Donald Becker's drivers. 2. The driver from first glimpse did not look 64 bit clean to me. There were some really wierd (in Sparc and Alpha context) defines related to IRQ's and stuff. I do not have a spare to try at the moment, but I have some doubts... Like the commented alpha defines in the include file. 3. The source looks pretty clean, but still I will definitely give a triple read before even trying to use it. 4. I would much rather prefer 3com to release specs/drivers for their modems then releasing a driver for something that is well supported already.
I would suggest all posters like this apply for funding/advertisements from VA, Sun or Silicon first. Otherwise we have no chooice but to say: "Sigh,./ again..."
Most likely none. Whatsoever. These are old fashioned guys. They do not see linux as a consumer OS, hence they don't see any need to develop any software for it.
Considering that they have not announced it (and this is with all the RHAT hype) they are not doing one.
This is slightly different. This is fishing for genes from an extinct spicies in existing population. The russians did it in the 20-30 before the genetics there got banned. They actually succeded in fishing out a curtrently extinct wild horse subspecies out of the south-russian horse population. The problem is that the anti-genetics madness after that killed all the research (as well as some of the people working on it).
This is the reason for me posting as a major concern the fact that some idiot may throw a molotov in the lab. See my post above.
This is a good PR bench but if you estimate the necessary context switches/running threads they do not come out to be a really heavy SMP exercise. See the presented client numbers for example.
Also in terms of scaling, it has been proven that Linux scales reasonably well on Intel to 4 already. The question is 8 or more and non-intel systems where its SMP still leaves quite a lot to desire. Unfortunately...
Whoever rated this as funny should have his moderator rights revoked for a month.
This is _NOT_ funny. We have destroyed so many species by either eating them or by declaring them as evil that even the top 10 list can make anyone sick.
Even if the australians do not succed it will still be great if they try. And hopefully be followed by someone else to reincarnate: 1. The dodo (Mauricius) 2. The travelling pigeon (USA) 3. The Berentz cow (Russia/USA) And many many more
And what I hope is that some anti-cloning maniacs following/seeking divine guidance will not try to throw a couple of molotov cocktails in the lab that do this work.
Dumb, dumb, verrry dumb. Almost any nation has laws that control the possibility of communicating with the outside world bypassing the normal channels.
Check your country laws for details.
You are simply not be allowed to transmit.
In btw in some countries even receiveing equipment is subject to licencing...
I guess this post is flamebait but I would still answer it. Until machines will stop being stupid people shall be sent. And as further away from earth (light speed is finite) as more imperative will be sending something with brains not diodes.
There are +/- in all integers and strings but there is no definite winner there. There is a huge difference in floating point benches, but what do you expect. Compaq links versus cpml egcs links versus libm which is far from where it should be.
Having a second thought let us see what compaq actually does. Hmmm, it looks like all math functions are redefined for Linux to use their "fast" low precision easily crashing equivalents. Lame...
So now let us see what happens if we go like compaq and use gcc and the compaq math library and the same lame technique:
TEST : Iterations/sec. : Old Index : New Index : : Pentium 90* : AMD K6/233* --------------------:------------------:-------- -----:------------ NUMERIC SORT : 277.1 : 7.11 : 2.33 STRING SORT : 25.041 : 11.19 : 1.73 BITFIELD : 6.4264e+07 : 11.02 : 2.30 FP EMULATION : 12.935 : 6.21 : 1.43 FOURIER : 13231 : 15.05 : 8.45 ASSIGNMENT : 2.4256 : 9.23 : 2.39 IDEA : 587.65 : 8.99 : 2.67 HUFFMAN : 243.2 : 6.74 : 2.15 NEURAL NET : 4.3012 : 6.91 : 2.91 LU DECOMPOSITION : 114.41 : 5.93 : 4.28 ==========================ORIGINAL BYTEMARK RESULTS========================== INTEGER INDEX : 8.437 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 8.510 Baseline (MSDOS*) : Pentium* 90, 256 KB L2-cache, Watcom* compiler 10.0 ==============================LINUX DATA BELOW=============================== C compiler : gcc version egcs-2.91.60 Debian 2.1 (egcs-1.1.1 release) libc : unknown version MEMORY INDEX : 2.121 INTEGER INDEX : 2.094 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 4.720
Suddenly whe are better then compaq on fourie... And our math is definitely looking better... Hi, hi, hi, hi...
Overall Compaq math library better than libm, some other lib functions as well, but the secret there is most likely called ASM not Compaq-CC.
Anyway, overall this release is good. At least for PR reasons.
The article does not say anything about the CD format. So quite possible that it will require also a Pine CD recorder and some bla bla running under windows only and etc, etc, etc.
So the overall price may as well come to be god knows how much (That is besides buying a PC for windows;-)
It looks like I have not expressed myself properly. I did not mean now, immediately, on the spot, but rather sooner or later after being frustrtaed by students asking "Why this thing from the book does not work".
If you call that supported. Try to run it under afterstep or some other more advanced window manager.
Star Office has been getting worse and worse since the day they decided to try doing their own desktop. The fact that they do not know how to do it and it does not obide to any window manager conventions makes the matter even worse.
Anyway - it will die, unless someone takes it back to separate applications running within the normal X context like in the old days of version 3.1
Did someone notice that Apple still remains the M$ little bro or everyone has missed it amidst all the hype: 1. The only system is for G4 MacOS (not even MacOS X). 2. You pay for MacOS even if you do not use it. 3. All offers are bundled in order achieve maximal "mortgage your home" factor.
It does not really matter. The fact that you do not pay does not mean that the service quality should have no guarantee. For example X sets up a free internet service. Some of the revenue from advertisements is reinvested in service guarantees. It is a question of overall policy. M$ is not the imaginary X in the lines above. Read their licence agreement on "payed" services and see for yourself. There is no guarantee whatsoever even if you pay. In other words it is a question of "who offers the service".
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Sorry buddy, the licence as stated is a federal offence. Namely a quote from the kernel source:
"Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the Director, National Security Agency."
Corel presents its product as having no federal funding whatsoever. So besides the GPL it has also performed a fairly nice fed funding fraud which is punishable by a fairly long jail term.
Human genes at the current phase of research are not that interesting. The interest in the sequences of microorganisms that cause diseases is much greater.
The reason for this is that as long as you patent all relevant sequences specific for the diagnostics of a disease (for example the interesting G-rich parts from a viral genome) you possess monopoly on the diagnostics of that disease.
Contrarily to the human genome where most of the stuff is still theory, this is actual practice. And it being is widely used/abused.
The violation of the GPL is actually the less dangerous part of this interesting document.
The more interesting part is the fraudulent use of federal fundning. The first thing coming to mind when reading the so called "classification of the software" is the licence/copyright on most Linux ethernet drivers (and actually quite a lot of other stuff).
Quote (from the classic lance.c):
Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the Director, National Security Agency.
So this licence as presented by Corel comprises a fraudlent use of federal funding. Being not familiar with the exact formulae for calcualating jail terms and fines I will leave them as an exercise to the more educated readers.
I do not read news. They are usually full of crap. There were some msgs on linux-kernel but nothing really problematic.
I have used all sorts of vortex descendants for years and I am using them in mission critical equipment now. They have their problems (especially some batches) but they are hardly driver related. These are usually tranciever incompatibilities with some "new and hot" network equipment or unfortunately deffects (3com no longer has its quality of the 3c509 years when out of 10000 boards none gave a single fault for a year).
OK. Now some m... has modified the rating to be off topic. Unfortunately it is right on.
The most important thing about Y2K is that everyone is using it as a scarecrow. The problem is not in the bugs in some badly written OSes, languages, etc, but in the massive panic. And of course in the fact that some people use it to raise political or financial dividends.
I would personally doubt the "flamebait" rating for this post. It is an insight. And actually a very bright one, because there are hardly any mission critical systems running on computers in the targeted countries/regions. There, even the water bills are still done by hand.
Do not understand me wrong. I am not saying that these countries are computer retarted. But their municipal systems and other stuff mentioned in the report is. And it actually _is_ retarded to the point of not using computers. So no Y2K there.
Overall the only reasonable note on Y2K in the entire report is the "small airports" stuff. As few of the readers may know Gabriel (the airline booking systems) used to run on X25. And most of the X25 stuff is not Y2k compliant. And in some of the remote areas around the world it still uses X25.
I would rather worry about countries with idiotic schemes for selecting the local analogue of SSN. For example bulgaria uses SSNs with 2 digit numbers. And they are used everywhere - financial sofwtare, municipal software, etc. And there will be quite a lot of Y2K fun there (though it will actually start quite after new year).
Lots and lots of hype, but why?
1. Almost all 3com cards run like a lightning with Donald Becker's drivers.
2. The driver from first glimpse did not look 64 bit clean to me. There were some really wierd (in Sparc and Alpha context) defines related to IRQ's and stuff. I do not have a spare to try at the moment, but I have some doubts... Like the commented alpha defines in the include file.
3. The source looks pretty clean, but still I will definitely give a triple read before even trying to use it.
4. I would much rather prefer 3com to release specs/drivers for their modems then releasing a driver for something that is well supported already.
It is actually a pretty cool county. Even the sherif's office is running apache ;-) No 98/NT's detected anywhere in the links.
I would suggest all posters like this apply for funding/advertisements from VA, Sun or Silicon first. Otherwise we have no chooice but to say: "Sigh, ./ again..."
Most likely none. Whatsoever. These are old fashioned guys. They do not see linux as a consumer OS, hence they don't see any need to develop any software for it.
Considering that they have not announced it (and this is with all the RHAT hype) they are not doing one.
This is slightly different. This is fishing for genes from an extinct spicies in existing population. The russians did it in the 20-30 before the genetics there got banned. They actually succeded in fishing out a curtrently extinct wild horse subspecies out of the south-russian horse population. The problem is that the anti-genetics madness after that killed all the research (as well as some of the people working on it).
This is the reason for me posting as a major concern the fact that some idiot may throw a molotov in the lab. See my post above.
This is a good PR bench but if you estimate the necessary context switches/running threads they do not come out to be a really heavy SMP exercise. See the presented client numbers for example.
Also in terms of scaling, it has been proven that Linux scales reasonably well on Intel to 4 already. The question is 8 or more and non-intel systems where its SMP still leaves quite a lot to desire. Unfortunately...
Whoever rated this as funny should have his moderator rights revoked for a month.
This is _NOT_ funny. We have destroyed so many species by either eating them or by declaring them as evil that even the top 10 list can make anyone sick.
Even if the australians do not succed it will still be great if they try. And hopefully be followed by someone else to reincarnate:
1. The dodo (Mauricius)
2. The travelling pigeon (USA)
3. The Berentz cow (Russia/USA)
And many many more
And what I hope is that some anti-cloning maniacs following/seeking divine guidance will not try to throw a couple of molotov cocktails in the lab that do this work.
Dumb, dumb, verrry dumb. Almost any nation has laws that control the possibility of communicating with the outside world bypassing the normal channels.
Check your country laws for details.
You are simply not be allowed to transmit.
In btw in some countries even receiveing equipment is subject to licencing...
I guess this post is flamebait but I would still answer it. Until machines will stop being stupid people shall be sent. And as further away from earth (light speed is finite) as more imperative will be sending something with brains not diodes.
Quick and ugly test using bytebench:
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/alpha-linux/egcs-2.91.60/specs - -----:------------
- -----:------------
- -----:------------
~$ cc -v
Reading specs from
gcc version egcs-2.91.60 Debian 2.1 (egcs-1.1.1 release)
TEST : Iterations/sec. : Old Index : New Index
: : Pentium 90* : AMD K6/233*
--------------------:------------------:-------
NUMERIC SORT : 271.48 : 6.96 : 2.29
STRING SORT : 24.804 : 11.08 : 1.72
BITFIELD : 6.4238e+07 : 11.02 : 2.30
FP EMULATION : 12.91 : 6.19 : 1.43
FOURIER : 2134.8 : 2.43 : 1.36
ASSIGNMENT : 2.4236 : 9.22 : 2.39
IDEA : 587.56 : 8.99 : 2.67
HUFFMAN : 241.78 : 6.70 : 2.14
NEURAL NET : 3.3857 : 5.44 : 2.29
LU DECOMPOSITION : 112.92 : 5.85 : 4.22
==========================ORIGINAL BYTEMARK RESULTS==========================
INTEGER INDEX : 8.390
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 4.259
Baseline (MSDOS*) : Pentium* 90, 256 KB L2-cache, Watcom* compiler 10.0
==============================LINUX DATA BELOW===============================
C compiler : gcc version egcs-2.91.60 Debian 2.1 (egcs-1.1.1 release)
libc : unknown version
MEMORY INDEX : 2.114
INTEGER INDEX : 2.079
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 2.362
Baseline (LINUX) : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38
ccc:
TEST : Iterations/sec. : Old Index : New Index
: : Pentium 90* : AMD K6/233*
--------------------:------------------:-------
NUMERIC SORT : 285.47 : 7.32 : 2.40
STRING SORT : 26.566 : 11.87 : 1.84
BITFIELD : 5.3653e+07 : 9.20 : 1.92
FP EMULATION : 13.576 : 6.51 : 1.50
FOURIER : 12000 : 13.65 : 7.67
ASSIGNMENT : 2.3567 : 8.97 : 2.33
IDEA : 482.21 : 7.38 : 2.19
HUFFMAN : 342.29 : 9.49 : 3.03
NEURAL NET : 7.1348 : 11.46 : 4.82
LU DECOMPOSITION : 172.66 : 8.94 : 6.46
==========================ORIGINAL BYTEMARK RESULTS==========================
INTEGER INDEX : 8.524
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 11.184
Baseline (MSDOS*) : Pentium* 90, 256 KB L2-cache, Watcom* compiler 10.0
==============================LINUX DATA BELOW===============================
C compiler : ccc (unknown version)
libc : unknown version
MEMORY INDEX : 2.018
INTEGER INDEX : 2.213
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 6.203
Baseline (LINUX) : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38
There are +/- in all integers and strings but there is no definite winner there. There is a huge difference in floating point benches, but what do you expect. Compaq links versus cpml egcs links versus libm which is far from where it should be.
Having a second thought let us see what compaq actually does. Hmmm, it looks like all math functions are redefined for Linux to use their "fast" low precision easily crashing equivalents. Lame...
So now let us see what happens if we go like compaq and use gcc and the compaq math library and the same lame technique:
TEST : Iterations/sec. : Old Index : New Index
: : Pentium 90* : AMD K6/233*
--------------------:------------------:-------
NUMERIC SORT : 277.1 : 7.11 : 2.33
STRING SORT : 25.041 : 11.19 : 1.73
BITFIELD : 6.4264e+07 : 11.02 : 2.30
FP EMULATION : 12.935 : 6.21 : 1.43
FOURIER : 13231 : 15.05 : 8.45
ASSIGNMENT : 2.4256 : 9.23 : 2.39
IDEA : 587.65 : 8.99 : 2.67
HUFFMAN : 243.2 : 6.74 : 2.15
NEURAL NET : 4.3012 : 6.91 : 2.91
LU DECOMPOSITION : 114.41 : 5.93 : 4.28
==========================ORIGINAL BYTEMARK RESULTS==========================
INTEGER INDEX : 8.437
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 8.510
Baseline (MSDOS*) : Pentium* 90, 256 KB L2-cache, Watcom* compiler 10.0
==============================LINUX DATA BELOW===============================
C compiler : gcc version egcs-2.91.60 Debian 2.1 (egcs-1.1.1 release)
libc : unknown version
MEMORY INDEX : 2.121
INTEGER INDEX : 2.094
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 4.720
Suddenly whe are better then compaq on fourie... And our math is definitely looking better... Hi, hi, hi, hi...
Overall Compaq math library better than libm, some other lib functions as well, but the secret there is most likely called ASM not Compaq-CC.
Anyway, overall this release is good. At least for PR reasons.
The article does not say anything about the CD format. So quite possible that it will require also a Pine CD recorder and some bla bla running under windows only and etc, etc, etc.
;-)
So the overall price may as well come to be god knows how much (That is besides buying a PC for windows
It looks like I have not expressed myself properly. I did not mean now, immediately, on the spot, but rather sooner or later after being frustrtaed by students asking "Why this thing from the book does not work".
It is just like perl - stripped from most of the functionality and barely usable. Open a pipe under Win for example ;-)
This is maybe the most strict elegant and readable language floating around (though being a lazy camel I do not use it). Very good choice.
The interesting consequence is that the schools will have to deploy *NIX systems for all students.
If you call that supported.
Try to run it under afterstep or some other more advanced window manager.
Star Office has been getting worse and worse since the day they decided to try doing their own desktop. The fact that they do not know how to do it and it does not obide to any window manager conventions makes the matter even worse.
Anyway - it will die, unless someone takes it back to separate applications running within the normal X context like in the old days of version 3.1
Did someone notice that Apple still remains the M$ little bro or everyone has missed it amidst all the hype:
1. The only system is for G4 MacOS (not even MacOS X).
2. You pay for MacOS even if you do not use it.
3. All offers are bundled in order achieve maximal "mortgage your home" factor.
Importr is legal
Export in Electronic form is illegal
Export in non-electronic form is legal
Print the diffs!!!
It does not really matter. The fact that you do not pay does not mean that the service quality should have no guarantee. For example X sets up a free internet service. Some of the revenue from advertisements is reinvested in service guarantees. It is a question of overall policy. M$ is not the imaginary X in the lines above. Read their licence agreement on "payed" services and see for yourself. There is no guarantee whatsoever even if you pay. In other words it is a question of "who offers the service".
Well, I wonder how much did they get payed for that. Or maybe it the Internet in UCLA has died after those first packets between those two machines.
Lame...