yeah, but I think IBM putting one BILLION dollars into it says something...
You're right, it says they (well atleast the marketing droids that thought up the idea) are idiots and now would be a good time to sell any IBM shares you own.
Let's look at this from the business viewpoint rather than the zealots viewpoint...
I'm going to get an e-business solution from IBM. Let's just say it'll cost me $500,000.00 (don't laugh the IBM partner I work for only does projects worth $500,000 and above!). That might consist of $150,000 worth of software, $100,000 worth of hardware and $250,000 worth of services.
Why am I going to skimp on buying a commercial, and rock solid, operating system like AIX 4 which'll set me back $1000.00 at most????
Answer, I won't.
Whing all you want about AIX but it's second to none for reliabilty and maintainability.
For serious (i.e. large business) users linux won't even get a look in.
If it does get a look in, do a total cost of ownership calculation and work out how much out of pocket you'll be and then pick AIX.
BTW, dollar amounts above are in Autralian dollars.
While I respect everyone's views on the different licences the fact of the matter is that if any large organisation decided to use GPL'ed code in their products and refused to release the source code there's nothing that anyone could do about it!
The argument of BSD vs GPL is a non event. You're all giving source code away to be used by everyone in whatever fashion they like.
BSD has a better-than-linux attitude with no substance to back it up. That's why Linux is winning. Here's yet another ego-stroking BSD distribution.....fork fork fork!
That's a bit rich coming from an obvious linux bigot.
Let's dissect your comment!
BSD has a better-than-linux attitude with no substance to back it up.
And of course this doesn't happen with Linux does it???
That's why Linux is winning.
Winning what??? The 'what will be deadest fastest' race???
Here's yet another ego-stroking BSD distribution.....fork fork fork!
As opposed to Slackware, Red Hat, Debian, Caldera, Suse, TurboLinux, Corel, yggdrasil, stampede, Redmond, Kondara, NoMad, LuteLinux, Icepack... should I go on?
Say I work for a large bank or a large multi billion dollar computer company. I decide that I'm going to use some open source code in my program and I'm not going to give the changes back to the open source community... who's going to successfully sue me???
No one!
How many resources have the US DOJ had to use in trying to sue Microsoft? Who, other than a government, are going to be able to sue me for not giving the changes back to the open source community. Yep, absolutely noone.
People who program under the BSD or GPL licences do so because they like programming and neither licence is going to protect their code.
What's your point with comparing kernels with userland ? dolt
Oooppss... I got into Linux zealot mode and started comparing apples and oranges.
Stop hiding behind big boys fudster, If you take only NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD and compare them to Linux, BSD is just a niche project for snobs
That's a bit rich coming from a one eyed zealot who obviously lives with their head in the sand. Your homework assignment is to do a bit of reading, get a clue and report back!
BTW Your precious Yahoo uses Google as search engine, which runs on what OS?
FreeBSD apparently. You might want to check that out at Netcraft... http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.yah oo.com&display=uptime There ain't no Linux there!
Hint, not any crappy *BSD
Bzzztttt... you're not having a very good day are you?
> Even once you get past the fact the *BSD is
> fragmented between a myriad of incompatible
> kernels
Three BSD kernels versus 300 Linux userlands... what's your point?
> *BSD experienced moderate success about 15
> years ago in academic circles.
There's more commercial installations out there based on BSD code than on Linux code.
> We all know *BSD keeps losing market share but
> why?
Like every UNIX flavour, because of Windows NT.
Don't fool yourself, Linux won't be going mainstream either, companies like HP and IBM are jumping on a bandwagon. Problem is that the passengers on the bandwagon are hitch hikers not paying customers... how are IBM and HP going to make money when noone pays... they won't and the support will disappear (if it was ever anything more than a marketing exercise!)
We had a large Linux "vendor" in the office about a month ago... by the end of the meeting even he was doubting why anyone would use Linux in a business when there are so many other vendor supported and superior solutions out there.
Wake up and smell the coffee... Linux is a fad and will die.
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You're right, it says they (well atleast the marketing droids that thought up the idea) are idiots and now would be a good time to sell any IBM shares you own.
Let's look at this from the business viewpoint rather than the zealots viewpoint...
I'm going to get an e-business solution from IBM. Let's just say it'll cost me $500,000.00 (don't laugh the IBM partner I work for only does projects worth $500,000 and above!). That might consist of $150,000 worth of software, $100,000 worth of hardware and $250,000 worth of services.
Why am I going to skimp on buying a commercial, and rock solid, operating system like AIX 4 which'll set me back $1000.00 at most????
Answer, I won't.
Whing all you want about AIX but it's second to none for reliabilty and maintainability.
For serious (i.e. large business) users linux won't even get a look in.
If it does get a look in, do a total cost of ownership calculation and work out how much out of pocket you'll be and then pick AIX.
BTW, dollar amounts above are in Autralian dollars.
Highly recommended.
The argument of BSD vs GPL is a non event. You're all giving source code away to be used by everyone in whatever fashion they like.
And there's about another 2 million *BSD users who'll be quite willing to help you do it!
That's a bit rich coming from an obvious linux bigot.
Let's dissect your comment!
BSD has a better-than-linux attitude with no substance to back it up.
And of course this doesn't happen with Linux does it???
That's why Linux is winning.
Winning what??? The 'what will be deadest fastest' race???
Here's yet another ego-stroking BSD distribution.....fork fork fork!
As opposed to Slackware, Red Hat, Debian, Caldera, Suse, TurboLinux, Corel, yggdrasil, stampede, Redmond, Kondara, NoMad, LuteLinux, Icepack... should I go on?
Say I work for a large bank or a large multi billion dollar computer company. I decide that I'm going to use some open source code in my program and I'm not going to give the changes back to the open source community... who's going to successfully sue me???
No one!
How many resources have the US DOJ had to use in trying to sue Microsoft? Who, other than a government, are going to be able to sue me for not giving the changes back to the open source community. Yep, absolutely noone.
People who program under the BSD or GPL licences do so because they like programming and neither licence is going to protect their code.
Some facts to support your rather stupid assertions would be good!
No, its the reality thread!
MS or Commercial Unix -> Linux -> a BSD
There's nothing new about that.
Read that carefully "was ever in the Linux mainstream".
That says that BSD code was in some way, shape or form in some verison of Linux at some stage.
If you want to refute an argument make sure your comments support your side of the argument!
You can quit showing your ignorance now!
Looks like our favourite Troll doesn't play favourites (and doesn't have a clue) when it comes to operating systems!
Why the f*ck do some people feel compelled to submit this comment for every slashdot story????
Can't people be a bit more creative?
Scribble out your name and write in large letters "Return to Sender. Postage will be paid by addressee" and pop them in your closest mailbox.
Oooppss... I got into Linux zealot mode and started comparing apples and oranges.
Stop hiding behind big boys fudster, If you take only NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD and compare them to Linux, BSD is just a niche project for snobs
That's a bit rich coming from a one eyed zealot who obviously lives with their head in the sand. Your homework assignment is to do a bit of reading, get a clue and report back!
BTW Your precious Yahoo uses Google as search engine, which runs on what OS?
FreeBSD apparently. You might want to check that out at Netcraft...h oo .com&display=uptime
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.ya
There ain't no Linux there!
Hint, not any crappy *BSD
Bzzztttt... you're not having a very good day are you?
> Even once you get past the fact the *BSD is
> fragmented between a myriad of incompatible
> kernels
Three BSD kernels versus 300 Linux userlands... what's your point?
> *BSD experienced moderate success about 15
> years ago in academic circles.
There's more commercial installations out there based on BSD code than on Linux code.
> We all know *BSD keeps losing market share but
> why?
Like every UNIX flavour, because of Windows NT.
Don't fool yourself, Linux won't be going mainstream either, companies like HP and IBM are jumping on a bandwagon. Problem is that the passengers on the bandwagon are hitch hikers not paying customers... how are IBM and HP going to make money when noone pays... they won't and the support will disappear (if it was ever anything more than a marketing exercise!)
There's more OSes out in the wild that are based on BSD code than on Linux code... looks like Linux is the loser.
Anyone else getting sick of the crap that this "Anonymous Coward" inflicts upon us?
Think before you open your mouth and prove what an idiot you are.
It's a pity the one eyed morons can't see what's just over the horizon.
Wake up and smell the coffee... Linux is a fad and will die.
In your words "GET OVER IT!"