Why are they wasting time with this case, are they really afraid of some guy posting jokes on an newsgroup ? Obviously, he wasn't discussing plans to bomb anybody. This law is so unconstitutional it's not even funny.
The fact it can be used to decrypt on Linux/Mac/BeOS etc etc is entirely secondary.
Then why is Ms. Sullivan submitting examples (in a previous paragraph) about fair use practices like a child copying a portion of a movie for a book report.
Being able to watch what you bought in your environmnet would seem to be a good argument in that sense.
Not everything in the world is a platform for MS bashing/Linux evangelism.
Who the heck is bashing or evangelising anything ????
She still doesn't mention that DeCSS is very useful for people with unsupported platforms.
She missed an excellent chance here ;
Judge 2:What was the purpose that these defendants had in the creation and dissemination of this program?
Sullivan: Multiple purposes, Your Honor. The record is clear that there were multiple purposes. One was to inform the scientific
community to make accessible to the scientific community in the way that things in the Internet community are, through open public
dissemination over the Internet, the qualities of the studio's use of encryption, and the ease with which it might be decrypted. The other
was simply to publish truthful information lawfully obtained. Nobody here broke any laws to obtain DeCSS, a function of the press
that's protected under a long line of cases such as Florida Star. The purpose was also to show the world how easy it was to decrypt these
movies, and some people in the audience might use decryption for bad purposes, but many don't. And when Congress is trying to stop a
harm, it's got to tailor its restrictions much more closely to the harm.
Anybody have any idea why she refuses to mention that this type of technology is useful for people in non Win/Mac platforms ???
Object databases are cool, specially from a programing standpoint, but there are a lot many disadvantages than the single one you listed, including : cost, familiarity (most people are not), less vendors (and open source alternatives), legacy databases (migrate or build bridges ?), etc.
Whenever you compare technologies, if you only find 1 disadvantage, you have probably not looked hard enough.
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Oh my, you don't even want to acknowledge this technology basically because Sun doesn't agree with your computing "world view".
Nice technical argument you have there buddy, must be a pain to work with you !!!
That's a good point, but the example I provided is littered with implementations were the researchers provided results of their work (since it's Image Processing/ Computer Vision stuff). So they did do some implementation.
If it's in a weird language, or it's poorly written (spagetti code), or doesn't even compile, no problem, the burden falls on the person trying to understand the implementation. But at least you have something that will help you much more in your research.
In addition, aside from implementation, backup material like in this case, images used for testing (and the ones printed in the journal articles) and things of the like would be nice to be stored somewhere. A nice idea, would be to let these journal sites store that backup info, maybe they can charge for that, I'd surely would pay for such data !!!
It just seems that now, people publish papers, and to be honest, there's no real proof that what they talk about works as advertised. Show me the work. Plus, it doesn't seem researchers are taking advantage of the internet, let us download stuff, that way your work won't be lost like it's apperently doing right now !!!
I was doing my thesis on a technique to develop a system to compare the "performance" of different image segmentation algorithms.
So basically, I had to develop some methodology to run test on these guys (with manually entered ground truth), choose some algorithms currently used (5-12) and be happy.
Well, was I in for a shock. People in CS journals publish algorithms and techinques and provide very little details as to how to implement their work. Not only that, but if you ask for source code you are out of luck.
I tried to contact a couple of authors to see if I could take a peek at their implementations, and most were either gone from the institution, or simply LOST the work !!!
C'mon people, if you are publishing an article describing your cool research, and try to explain it, but don't provide a way for the community to implement it, and you lose the work, what good is that in the end ?!?!?
Anyways, I fully support this boycott, we IEEE journals are great, but very inaccessible, they're not doing the research/academic comunity any favors by not allowing more free access.
Have you ever been bullied? If so, I doubt you would make that statement.
I've been bullied and I've done a bit of bullying myself too.
I actually never threatened to shoot anyone.
And the article said the dad was too poor to afford a lawyer, so in most places he could not afford a private school.
Either way, going to a private school, or moving to another district is the best solution for the kid. Suing is fine, but even if he wins or loses, it might be too much on an embaressement to have him return to the same school. Either way, the school seems to be run by idiots, so he's better off not going there anymore.
> Making a smartass crack about guns and toying weith a key case like its a gun (and obviously not fooling anyone, nor trying to) needs to be justified?
If they told him that was not to be tolerated by whatever inane school policies they have, then he shouldn't have done that.
Hey, I know it's absurd, when I was little people weren't this paranoid about being shot in school, but that's what you have today.
Either way, he shouldn't have implied threatening to shoot other students. Maybe next time Dad can go to the school and actually complain about the bullying before it escalates this much.
My prediction: the scramjet will successfully accelerate to Mach 5, plowing into a Chinese observation plane and obliterating it.
More likely, it'll be "A Chinese fighter pilot will plow into the scramjet by stupidly flying too close while trying to show the unmaned aircraft his email adress".
Definition of Trolling: troll v.,n. To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames.
I wasn't trolling, just stating my opinion, that AOL should do whatever it wants with their clients and severs.
Trolling is going in to an argument on a site like this and saying Linux sucks, Open Source blows, or some other non-sense.
The way you read "trolling", it applies for anything most people won't agree on a posting. That's great, let's just have one point of view, that'll give us real progress eh ?
Quake has several mechanisms to spot fake clients and cheaters.
The anology might not be the best, since in the case of AIM, you are using their servers, which is even more objectionable without their permission.
They made their protocol, they provide the servers, they want their clients and the ones they approve to work and others not.. What's the problem with that ?
This is so far away from a telephone, the web, or an Operating System. Everybody can write an AIM like service and host it.
So what, should Quake 3 have to allow for home grown Quake servers to connect so people can cheat ? Does Quake have a monopoly on online multiplayer FPS games ?
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You are a bigot against geeks. Somebody put this guy into jail, he's threatening us, quick, quick !
There's something funny going on with this DA.
Why are they wasting time with this case, are they really afraid of some guy posting jokes on an newsgroup ? Obviously, he wasn't discussing plans to bomb anybody. This law is so unconstitutional it's not even funny.
The only part that had color was the girl in the red dress that gets killed, and the candle in the Jewish religious ceremony/prayer.
The fact it can be used to decrypt on Linux/Mac/BeOS etc etc is entirely secondary.
Then why is Ms. Sullivan submitting examples (in a previous paragraph) about fair use practices like a child copying a portion of a movie for a book report.
Being able to watch what you bought in your environmnet would seem to be a good argument in that sense.
Not everything in the world is a platform for MS bashing/Linux evangelism.
Who the heck is bashing or evangelising anything ????
She still doesn't mention that DeCSS is very useful for people with unsupported platforms.
She missed an excellent chance here ;
Judge 2: What was the purpose that these defendants had in the creation and dissemination of this program?
Sullivan: Multiple purposes, Your Honor. The record is clear that there were multiple purposes. One was to inform the scientific community to make accessible to the scientific community in the way that things in the Internet community are, through open public dissemination over the Internet, the qualities of the studio's use of encryption, and the ease with which it might be decrypted. The other was simply to publish truthful information lawfully obtained. Nobody here broke any laws to obtain DeCSS, a function of the press that's protected under a long line of cases such as Florida Star. The purpose was also to show the world how easy it was to decrypt these movies, and some people in the audience might use decryption for bad purposes, but many don't. And when Congress is trying to stop a harm, it's got to tailor its restrictions much more closely to the harm.
Anybody have any idea why she refuses to mention that this type of technology is useful for people in non Win/Mac platforms ???
X-men mutations are not due to radiation, you're confusing them with Spider-man or the Hulk, etc. (non-mutants).
... need to redo this "study".
Object databases are cool, specially from a programing standpoint, but there are a lot many disadvantages than the single one you listed, including : cost, familiarity (most people are not), less vendors (and open source alternatives), legacy databases (migrate or build bridges ?), etc.
Whenever you compare technologies, if you only find 1 disadvantage, you have probably not looked hard enough.
Oh my, you don't even want to acknowledge this technology basically because Sun doesn't agree with your computing "world view".
Nice technical argument you have there buddy, must be a pain to work with you !!!
Where did he say, you can't "chat" in Quake ?
He's mentioning this because there are additional methods of interaction in these games, specially, when chatting is not their main function.
... is this patent about ? They talk about a videogame controlled by local controller and also remotely.
This thing is so vague and general, it could apply to most online games !!!
Who the hell is working at the patent office ?!?!
That's a good point, but the example I provided is littered with implementations were the researchers provided results of their work (since it's Image Processing/ Computer Vision stuff). So they did do some implementation.
If it's in a weird language, or it's poorly written (spagetti code), or doesn't even compile, no problem, the burden falls on the person trying to understand the implementation. But at least you have something that will help you much more in your research.
In addition, aside from implementation, backup material like in this case, images used for testing (and the ones printed in the journal articles) and things of the like would be nice to be stored somewhere. A nice idea, would be to let these journal sites store that backup info, maybe they can charge for that, I'd surely would pay for such data !!!
It just seems that now, people publish papers, and to be honest, there's no real proof that what they talk about works as advertised. Show me the work. Plus, it doesn't seem researchers are taking advantage of the internet, let us download stuff, that way your work won't be lost like it's apperently doing right now !!!
I was doing my thesis on a technique to develop a system to compare the "performance" of different image segmentation algorithms.
So basically, I had to develop some methodology to run test on these guys (with manually entered ground truth), choose some algorithms currently used (5-12) and be happy.
Well, was I in for a shock. People in CS journals publish algorithms and techinques and provide very little details as to how to implement their work. Not only that, but if you ask for source code you are out of luck.
I tried to contact a couple of authors to see if I could take a peek at their implementations, and most were either gone from the institution, or simply LOST the work !!!
C'mon people, if you are publishing an article describing your cool research, and try to explain it, but don't provide a way for the community to implement it, and you lose the work, what good is that in the end ?!?!?
Anyways, I fully support this boycott, we IEEE journals are great, but very inaccessible, they're not doing the research/academic comunity any favors by not allowing more free access.
but don't act like its a game on its own...)
So, who cares ?!?! It's still a lot of fun, and very popular.
This is not a "troll" post.
Funny, people complaining about school bullying, yet look at the bullying and censorship going around here with some overzealous moderators.
Have you ever been bullied? If so, I doubt you would make that statement.
I've been bullied and I've done a bit of bullying myself too.
I actually never threatened to shoot anyone.
And the article said the dad was too poor to afford a lawyer, so in most places he could not afford a private school.
Either way, going to a private school, or moving to another district is the best solution for the kid. Suing is fine, but even if he wins or loses, it might be too much on an embaressement to have him return to the same school. Either way, the school seems to be run by idiots, so he's better off not going there anymore.
> Making a smartass crack about guns and toying weith a key case like its a gun (and obviously not fooling anyone, nor trying to) needs to be justified?
If they told him that was not to be tolerated by whatever inane school policies they have, then he shouldn't have done that.
Hey, I know it's absurd, when I was little people weren't this paranoid about being shot in school, but that's what you have today.
Either way, he shouldn't have implied threatening to shoot other students. Maybe next time Dad can go to the school and actually complain about the bullying before it escalates this much.
Good point, maybe Sean's father should have toned down his time browsing the web and actualy spend some time communicating with his son.
It could be that he didn't know this was a big problem because he doesn't have good communications with his son.
If his son had committed suicide, the it'd be too late, maybe this incident is actually good news and he can resolve this problems with his son.
As for the school, yes, they are idiots.
You're just a bit off on your prediction ...
My prediction: the scramjet will successfully accelerate to Mach 5, plowing into a Chinese observation plane and obliterating it.
More likely, it'll be "A Chinese fighter pilot will plow into the scramjet by stupidly flying too close while trying to show the unmaned aircraft his email adress".
I don't agree with the court, is it illegal to disagree with them ?
Definition of Trolling: troll v.,n. To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames.
I wasn't trolling, just stating my opinion, that AOL should do whatever it wants with their clients and severs.
Trolling is going in to an argument on a site like this and saying Linux sucks, Open Source blows, or some other non-sense.
The way you read "trolling", it applies for anything most people won't agree on a posting. That's great, let's just have one point of view, that'll give us real progress eh ?
I rather post a "stupid comment" with a point, than the waste of bandwith you call a reply. *sigh*
Quake has several mechanisms to spot fake clients and cheaters.
The anology might not be the best, since in the case of AIM, you are using their servers, which is even more objectionable without their permission.
They made their protocol, they provide the servers, they want their clients and the ones they approve to work and others not.. What's the problem with that ?
All good points, but the fact remains, AIM uses AOL resources and their technology.
I don't see why they don't have a right to just do as they please with their service.
Again, can Id prohibit "fake" Quake clients, or should everybody be allowed to do their own Quake clients ?
I fail to see how this chat client is a monopoly.
This is so far away from a telephone, the web, or an Operating System. Everybody can write an AIM like service and host it.
So what, should Quake 3 have to allow for home grown Quake servers to connect so people can cheat ? Does Quake have a monopoly on online multiplayer FPS games ?
Stop modding down my comments on this.
I'm all for "chat" clients that interoperate with each other, but I also think AOL should do whatever they want with their network/resources.
Why the hell are my comments being censored in this way ?!?!?