I'm not a lawyer, but I did go to law school. So having said that here's my opinions: This precedent is a good stepping stone for other privacy violations that are on the ballot... I agree that this is a good, but small step forward. This case seems limited to defamation lawsuits, however. Also, it would see to only protect bbs-type operations such as the slashdot message board. If I were to post an article on slashdot that defamed some Scoutmaster, then I do believe there still might be a case against Andover.net. I guess the difference is subtle, but still there. And it certainly doesn't protect you from posting defamatory content on your own website.
Mr. Lunney had argued that Prodigy, by reserving the right to edit bulletin board messages, had assumed a responsibility for doing so. Prodigy countered that the right to edit does not imply an obligation to edit. The Court held that Prodigy's power to exert editorial control does not alter its passive posture or render it a "publisher" of electronic bulletin board messages.
I'm sorry my comment didn't please you much, but I was really only trying to be humorous. That last bit I added at the end, was the one-line summary of my opinion on the subject.
I'm neither a biologist or a psychologist, but have a degree in English.
The question, though, is where these boundaries should be drawn. How much of what we consider in ourselves to be easily influenced by our conscious decisions is determined at birth? What limits have been imposed upon our learning capacity and how quickly we are able to learn? Are there natural/born geniuses? If so, are they the only kind, or can we create genius if we provide the proper set of interactions? Can we make everyone a potential genius through gene therapy, and how much social engineering would be necessary to complete sucha creation?
These are all reasonable questions I suppose, but if life is deterministic I'm really not sure that I want to know. I think I'd rather have the illusion of free will, then the knowledge that there is no such thing. The works of Skinner and such are fascinating as hell, but really terrify me. Do I really want to know that the reason I salivate is because the bell rings (replace bell ringing with whatever stimuli you choose)?
But having said that, if you want to know my opinion, I believe that genius is born or arises out of one's own innate self. Society acts mostly as you might imagine an external agent would on any substance might... It either helps or hinders, but it does not control. It even might appear that it controls, but it really only helps make the self what it must truly be.
Ok, forget, now I'm starting to sound like Sarte... Goodnight.
Dude, think again. If you look at my posts, you'll see that I've offered up some very interesting opinions. I'm not just some drone.. Come to my website.. Come to my website.. People can think for themselves. I would be the last one to try to force some people to do or read anything they don't want to read. Hell, I'm sick and tired of being submerged to death with advertising; not just in commercials, but movies now themselves these days are walking advertisements. I enjoy slashdot, so I post on it when topics I'm interested come up, and that's the only reason I post.
You have to take into account the normal government bureaucracy bullshit, so it will come out to about 2 to 3x of whatever is a fair and reasonable price.
"I've sold a total of one CD online, and I think that's pretty typical," says Woodaman, who first began uploading tracks from his self-produced Brain Transfer Project to four online music distribution sites nearly a year ago.
Well, I don't suppose the reason he's not selling very many cds is THAT HIS MUSIC SUCKS and no one wants TO BUY THAT CRAP. No, no. He's just a victim being taken advantage of by the system. And I suppose he believes that if he puts a tooth under his pillow, the tooth fairy WILL GIVE HIM SOME FUCKIN CASH for it.
I don't know. The feds aren't really the bad guys. At least to our businesses here in the U.S. They just want to make sure we have all the possible advantages over foreign competition. And what's so bad about that? The Japanese government is 10x worse any day of the week.
And when you think about it, the fed is only acting in their own interest. I mean, the taxes from American businesses help pay their taxes. They get nothing from foreign companies.
So, I tend to think that things are pretty much as they should be as long as the feds don't bite the hand that feeds it.
What's your beef dude? I hate spam. Spam is my enemy. When I get spammed I send the guy a dirty message. So don't accuse me of every spamming anybody. If you don't like my sig line, then that's your problem. It's easy for you to exclude me so you don't have to have to read my comments. Some people must like my comments because I got a three. So take it easy dude. Enjoy your slashdot. Exclude me if you don't like what I have to say. But most of all be civil to others. Treat them as if they were invited guests into your house. Why be rude? I mean life is too short to get so worked up!
We all know the only thing that creates more brain synapses is coffee. This has been "proven" by the fact that the only time I produce any good code is after about a pot of the stuff. Speaking of that, I think I hear that my coffee's ready... Maybe when I'm finished drinking I'll think of something interesting to say.
(sigh) Probably not! Nature or Nuture? The answer is Nature and Nuture.
Thankfully, just because they have the "legal" right to crack your computer doesn't mean they "can" crack your computer. We will just have to keep beefing up security until they don't have a chance in hell of ever getting in!
Me wonders how many copies of OpenBSD this story is going to sell???
I kindly disagree with you. There is a little thing called the Constitution that does tend to get in their way once and a while. Believe me, we should all love our Constitution, even if we don't give a shit about laws and so forth, as it is really just about the only thing holding back the Nazi hordes that would love to control us.
Yes, I'm hoping this is a trend that increases and increases. As a programmer myself, I would love to be able to work from home, and I really don't think their would be any productivity loss whatsoever.
If only my company (a high tech software house) could get over the "warm body syndrome". Right now they wouldn't even contemplate allowing such a situation. I'm really wishing I could convince them otherwise someday. Maybe if I could just somehow show them how much money they would save on office space and coffee, then I could convince the suits to give it a try.
Well, at least in Jasper Alabama, you can't beat your wife with a stick larger than the size of your thumb! Now that is real progress. Now if my wife acts up, I'm just going to threaten to move her to Jasper. How the hell do people come up with these laws??
Well, this idea does not sound all that appealing to me, in fact, appalling might be a better term that come to mind. One has to carefully consider the ramifications of allowing these types of "artifical" modifications to the human body. The first thing I believe that will happen is that the rich will start to get the modifications, this there will be a class distinction where the rich are covered with capability enhancing modifications while the poor get nothing. Quickly, it will become as popular to an eye with a built-in feed to the internet as it would be to today get a new Lexus. Eventually over time, the rich will barely be rocognizable as human. There a great anime called I think the "Starlight Express" or something like that which predicts just such a future (great movie by the way), and it's really not that hard to imagine it actually happening. Oh well, that said, where do I sign up for the x-ray vision eyes? Now that would come in handy!
I have to agree completely. This site seems to lack significant content. What was there was not really even that interesting. There were no specifics, no insulting attacks on Microsoft? What's the point? Are we just going to bore the enemy to death or are we going to rise up and send our fiery spears down those Redmond Fudmakers Arses?
Yeah, I'm starting to love Germans more and more! Forget about that little World War II thing. You guys are ok in my book! Hell, what am I saying, I'm part German!
i would argue that the Amazon.com was successful almost by accident. I'm sure when the guy started that book store, he wasn't thinking 'Global Empire' at the time. He probably just wanted a cool sounding, catchy name. Now that it's hit the big time, it's up to their marketing dept to give it the right spin so that it becomes a household name like Sears.
I think they are doing a damn good job, by the way, too. Because just yesterday, some woman was walking past my office singing that Amazon Christmas song, "Amazon's got a bunch of toys!" or however it goes. Take care, all!
Slashdot Mirror
Speed Racer, here I come!
I'm not a lawyer, but I did go to law school. So having said that here's my opinions: This precedent is a good stepping stone for other privacy violations that are on the ballot...
I agree that this is a good, but small step forward. This case seems limited to defamation lawsuits, however. Also, it would see to only protect bbs-type operations such as the slashdot message board. If I were to post an article on slashdot that defamed some Scoutmaster, then I do believe there still might be a case against Andover.net. I guess the difference is subtle, but still there. And it certainly doesn't protect you from posting defamatory content on your own website.
Mr. Lunney had argued that Prodigy, by reserving the right to edit bulletin board messages, had assumed a responsibility for doing so. Prodigy countered that the right to edit does not imply an obligation to edit. The Court held that Prodigy's power to exert editorial control does not alter its passive posture or render it a "publisher" of electronic bulletin board messages.
I'm sorry my comment didn't please you much, but I was really only trying to be humorous. That last bit I added at the end, was the one-line summary of my opinion on the subject.
I'm neither a biologist or a psychologist, but have a degree in English.
The question, though, is where these boundaries should be drawn. How much of what we consider in ourselves to be easily influenced by our conscious decisions is determined at birth? What limits have been imposed upon our learning capacity and how quickly we are able to learn? Are there natural/born geniuses? If so, are they the only kind, or can we create genius if we provide the proper set of interactions? Can we make everyone a potential genius through gene therapy, and how much social engineering would be necessary to complete sucha creation?
These are all reasonable questions I suppose, but if life is deterministic I'm really not sure that I want to know. I think I'd rather have the illusion of free will, then the knowledge that there is no such thing. The works of Skinner and such are fascinating as hell, but really terrify me.
Do I really want to know that the reason I salivate is because the bell rings (replace bell ringing with whatever stimuli you choose)?
But having said that, if you want to know my opinion, I believe that genius is born or arises out of one's own innate self. Society acts mostly as you might imagine an external agent would on any substance might... It either helps or hinders, but it does not control. It even might appear that it controls, but it really only helps make the self what it must truly be.
Ok, forget, now I'm starting to sound like Sarte... Goodnight.
Dude, think again. If you look at my posts, you'll see that I've offered up some very interesting opinions. I'm not just some drone.. Come to my website.. Come to my website.. People can think for themselves. I would be the last one to try to force some people to do or read anything they don't want to read. Hell, I'm sick and tired of being submerged to death with advertising; not just in commercials, but movies now themselves these days are walking advertisements. I enjoy slashdot, so I post on it when topics I'm interested come up, and that's the only reason I post.
You have to take into account the normal government bureaucracy bullshit, so it will come out to about 2 to 3x of whatever is a fair and reasonable price.
"I've sold a total of one CD online, and I think that's pretty typical," says Woodaman, who first began uploading tracks from his self-produced Brain Transfer Project to four online music distribution sites nearly a year ago.
Well, I don't suppose the reason he's not selling very many cds is THAT HIS MUSIC SUCKS and no one wants TO BUY THAT CRAP. No, no. He's just a victim being taken advantage of by the system. And I suppose he believes that if he puts a tooth under his pillow, the tooth fairy WILL GIVE HIM SOME FUCKIN CASH for it.
I don't know. The feds aren't really the bad guys. At least to our businesses here in the U.S. They just want to make sure we have all the possible advantages over foreign competition. And what's so bad about that? The Japanese government is 10x worse any day of the week.
And when you think about it, the fed is only acting in their own interest. I mean, the taxes from American businesses help pay their taxes. They get nothing from foreign companies.
So, I tend to think that things are pretty much as they should be as long as the feds don't bite the hand that feeds it.
Because any post associated with beowolf clusters is normally a troll, the moderators are having a hard time moderating this particular topic...
:)
Their first instinct is, "Oh God, it's a beowulf post - moderate down, moderate down." It must be a hard itch for them not to scratch in this case
I don't think the biggest beowolf cluster would help you with that problem. A shrink might though...
What's your beef dude? I hate spam. Spam is my enemy. When I get spammed I send the guy a dirty message. So don't accuse me of every spamming anybody. If you don't like my sig line, then that's your problem. It's easy for you to exclude me so you don't have to have to read my comments. Some people must like my comments because I got a three. So take it easy dude. Enjoy your slashdot. Exclude me if you don't like what I have to say. But most of all be civil to others. Treat them as if they were invited guests into your house. Why be rude? I mean life is too short to get so worked up!
We all know the only thing that creates more brain synapses is coffee.
This has been "proven" by the fact that the only time I produce any good code is after about a pot of the stuff.
Speaking of that, I think I hear that my coffee's ready... Maybe when I'm finished drinking I'll think of something interesting to say.
(sigh) Probably not! Nature or Nuture?
The answer is Nature and Nuture.
It was a interesting little tidbit that I did not know, nonetheless!
Thankfully, just because they have the "legal" right to crack your computer doesn't mean they "can" crack your computer. We will just have to keep beefing up security until they don't have a chance in hell of ever getting in!
Me wonders how many copies of OpenBSD this story is going to sell???
I kindly disagree with you. There is a little thing called the Constitution that does tend to get in their way once and a while. Believe me, we should all love our Constitution, even if we don't give a shit about laws and so forth, as it is really just about the only thing holding back the Nazi hordes that would love to control us.
Yes, I'm hoping this is a trend that increases and increases. As a programmer myself, I would love to be able to work from home, and I really don't think their would be any productivity loss whatsoever.
If only my company (a high tech software house) could get over the "warm body syndrome". Right now they wouldn't even contemplate allowing such a situation. I'm really wishing I could convince them otherwise someday. Maybe if I could just somehow show them how much money they would save on office space and coffee, then I could convince the suits to give it a try.
I guess I'm only dreaming... (sigh).
Thank God we don't have to worry about these types of fucked-up laws showing up on the internet :)
I think this has to be #1 on my list of most eagerly awaited software releases!
Well, at least in Jasper Alabama, you can't beat your wife with a stick larger than the size of your thumb! Now that is real progress. Now if my wife acts up, I'm just going to threaten to move her to Jasper. How the hell do people come up with these laws??
Yeah know, I really didn't know that and I got a degree in English. Oh boy, would my professors be ashamed of me now!
Well, this idea does not sound all that appealing to me, in fact, appalling might be a better term that come to mind.
One has to carefully consider the ramifications of allowing these types of "artifical" modifications to the human body.
The first thing I believe that will happen is that the rich will start to get the modifications, this there will be a class distinction where the rich are covered with capability enhancing modifications while the poor get nothing.
Quickly, it will become as popular to an eye with a built-in feed to the internet as it would be to today get a new Lexus.
Eventually over time, the rich will barely be rocognizable as human.
There a great anime called I think the "Starlight Express" or something like that which predicts just such a future (great movie by the way), and it's really not that hard to imagine it actually happening.
Oh well, that said, where do I sign up for the x-ray vision eyes? Now that would come in handy!
Was that word ever used for anything other than the Bionic Man?
I have to agree completely. This site seems to lack significant content. What was there was not really even that interesting. There were no specifics, no insulting attacks on Microsoft? What's the point? Are we just going to bore the enemy to death or are we going to rise up and send our fiery spears down those Redmond Fudmakers Arses?
Yeah, I'm starting to love Germans more and more! Forget about that little World War II thing. You guys are ok in my book! Hell, what am I saying, I'm part German!
Yeah, Wonderware gets my vote. Just across the street from me. That name is just plain bad!
i would argue that the Amazon.com was successful almost by accident. I'm sure when the guy started that book store, he wasn't thinking 'Global Empire' at the time. He probably just wanted a cool sounding, catchy name. Now that it's hit the big time, it's up to their marketing dept to give it the right spin so that it becomes a household name like Sears.
I think they are doing a damn good job, by the way, too. Because just yesterday, some woman was walking past my office singing that Amazon Christmas song, "Amazon's got a bunch of toys!" or however it goes. Take care, all!