I give up. I've been trying to figure out why you said that, but I can't. I'll just take this opportunity to point out that it's pretty hard to exploit a machine that doesn't have a NIC.;p
When you were doing all the initial work, putting things together, and figuring out how things 'should' be, did you ever consider how easy it would become?
I mean, did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine AOL, or something like it? Instant Messaging, Plug and Play, and everything else? To me, back in the good old days (tm) the obfuscation of computer networking was a boon, even in the early '90's. Like Usenet before 1996. I'll admit to enjoying things maybe a bit more when everyone and their grandmother didn't contribute to discussions with one sided opinions in all caps.
So, I guess it's a to part question - did you ever imagine it becoming so easy, and do you wish it had stayed harder?
That is, if it fails for any reason (file missing, user cancel, etc.), then it will completely roll-back and not leave bits of a partially installed application.
He's not kidding. Unless the program being installed was written by a malicious bunch of idiots, Windows Installer will do exactly that. It's quite capable doing so. It's also fairly easy to put together a package to be installed.
In fact, the only reason things get left behind at all is because things are created once the program is run for the first time that don't get put into the windows installer database. So, if you uninstall say, Starcraft, your saved games are left behind.
Don't laugh at something you clearly don't understand, or even use properly. You sound like a smug jackass when you make laugh at something, and then like a retard to boot when you're wrong.
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When you actually *make* something, it's not a mystery business plan. You say, wittily:
1. Create 3D LCD that works without glasses. 2. ??? 3. Profit!!!
In this case, ??? can be expressed as:
"Sell 3D LCD for more than it cost to manufacture it."
Well, since you don't want to (can't?) read the article linked to above before criticizing, I'll quote it for you.
Quinones are produced by epidermal cells for tanning the cuticle. This exists commonly in arthropods. [Dettner, 1987]
Some of the quinones don't get used up, but sit on the epidermis, making the arthropod distasteful. (Quinones are used as defensive secretions in a variety of modern arthropods, from beetles to millipedes. [Eisner, 1970])
Small invaginations develop in the epidermis between sclerites (plates of cuticle). By wiggling, the insect can squeeze more quinones onto its surface when they're needed.
The invaginations deepen. Muscles are moved around slightly, allowing them to help expel the quinones from some of them. (Many ants have glands similar to this near the end of their abdomen. [Holldobler & Wilson, 1990, pp. 233-237])
Some invaginations (now reservoirs) become so deep that the others are inconsequential by comparison. Those gradually revert to the original epidermis.
In various insects, different defensive chemicals besides quinones appear. (See Eisner, 1970, for a review.) This helps those insects defend against predators which have evolved resistance to quinones. One of the new defensive chemicals is hydroquinone.
Cells that secrete the hydroquinones develop in multiple layers over part of the reservoir, allowing more hydroquinones to be produced. Channels between cells allow hydroquinones from all layers to reach the reservoir.
The channels become a duct, specialized for transporting the chemicals. The secretory cells withdraw from the reservoir surface, ultimately becoming a separate organ. This stage -- secretory glands connected by ducts to reservoirs -- exists in many beetles. The particular configuration of glands and reservoirs that bombardier beetles have is common to the other beetles in their suborder. [Forsyth, 1970]
Muscles adapt which close off the reservoir, thus preventing the chemicals from leaking out when they're not needed.
Hydrogen peroxide, which is a common by-product of cellular metabolism, becomes mixed with the hydroquinones. The two react slowly, so a mixture of quinones and hydroquinones gets used for defense.
Cells secreting a small amount of catalases and peroxidases appear along the output passage of the reservoir, outside the valve which closes it off from the outside. These ensure that more quinones appear in the defensive secretions. Catalases exist in almost all cells, and peroxidases are also common in plants, animals, and bacteria, so those chemicals needn't be developed from scratch but merely concentrated in one location.
More catalases and peroxidases are produced, so the discharge is warmer and is expelled faster by the oxygen generated by the reaction.
The walls of that part of the output passage become firmer, allowing them to better withstand the heat and pressure generated by the reaction.
Still more catalases and peroxidases are produced, and the walls toughen and shape into a reaction chamber. Gradually they become the mechanism of today's bombardier beetles.
The tip of the beetle's abdomen becomes somewhat elongated and more flexible, allowing the beetle to aim its discharge in various directions.
Why, that sounds like a series of random... oh, forget it. You'll probably ignore this too.
The WRX, and most of the other Subie 4 bangers are boxers, and they do corner on rails. Can't deny that. But as long as we're modding...
I'd like to drop a vette off with dear Mr. John Lingenfelter. Mmmmm, Lingenfelter. Sorry. Anyway, you can read what happens for $5,700 here. Granted, I'm spending more. Of course, you get a warrenty, and you're not using used parts. Oh yes. And you do 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. You tick the quarter mile in under 12. That's if your foot has the brains to not boil the tires. You're damn near the fastest thing on the planet with four wheels. Italian babies? Naw. Japanese babies? Naw. Even Germany is left wanting.
Oh yeah. And you forgot the soul. Baby got soul! She's big, mean, and terrible in the snow. =)
Christ. I drive a Impreza, and still think you're an idiot. If you only bolt on *list of parts here* you'd be kicking *insert name of other car here*'s ass!
Do you understand anything about emissions, reliability, or really, anything past driving a car as hard as you can for a few hours, and then giving the engine a nice overhaul? I'm sure a WRX that already gets like, 100 hp/liter will be doing fine after 10,000 miles trying to make 150 hp/liter+. There's a reason they don't leave the factory that way.
The vette sells because it *moves*. It rolls. Baby's got soul. She rumbles. Clearly you don't understand.
Oh, and you can pick a vette up for $45k. The subie's going for $26k. You're already over half the money, sport. But don't let math slow you down.;p
Especially if you're 'bolting on' a new turbo. Ha! Lemme know how that turns out, would you? Here's a link, where you can pick one up for four grand, not installed: WRX Turbo Upgrade. Whoops. You're past 30k on a Subaru. Not counting all the other parts you want. Then bring it in for a warrenty job when the tranny goes, would ya?
Did you really say that? Since you'll be going from house to house, let's say you're blessed and/or have an external antenna, and can get actual throughput of 8Mbit/sec.
So... well... carry the one... I come up with 114 hours. Give or take. Assuming a miracle signal. And that you or your neighbor won't restart, disconnect the lan, or run around in lead signal-blocking pants for five consecutive days.;p
(like Detroit) have worse health care systems/infant mortality rates than Libya, for example (despite the US sanctions), yet still many USians connect to the internet.
I guarantee you that the mothers in Detroit that give birth to babies already addicted to crack are *not* the same people that spend a great deal of time on the internet.
One more time, ladies and gentlemen. The internet is not *all* it's cracked up to be. It is not a hot bowl of soup, nor is it your teacher. It's certainly not your parents, and it really shouldn't be your friend. It's a tool. And, a lot like a wrench, it's not the answer to every problem.
This is because searches rely on using the google.com DNS entry. So even though you browse to google by using 111.222.111.222 or whatever, the search result URL is still www.google.com/blahblahblah.
To fix this problem, you need to edit your local hosts file to manually resolve google.com. If you let me know what OS you run, I can tell you exactly how to do it. This will only work if they're only filtering google.com the name, and not the IP address. But if you get the site by putting in the ip, that's probably what they're doing. How dumb!
Of course, you could use a search engine to find out how as well.;p
And I bet you are writing this email on company time, using a company supplied computer, company supplied software, and company supplied bandwidth.
That just goes to show you that you shouldn't make bets unless you actually *know* something about the thing you're betting about.
In other words, *Bzzzzt*! That's wrong, Chuck! Tell him about his lovely parting gifts!
As far as I'm concerned, they are lucky to have employees who are as talented and hard working as we are.
Their luck balances out with lazy, shiftless employees that rely on doing just enough to not get fired, believe me.
Letting us get a little down time here and there, while providing us with a little extra bandwidth for reading news sites, should be considered a part of our jobs.
I never argued with that. And if you've asked your employer if you can do that, and he said it was okay, then by all means! In my company, while we monitor, we warn that it's monitored. And as the IT department, we don't contact your supervisor if you're reading nytimes.com all day. We don't even say anything if you're using hotjobs.com for (like some people do) over an hour each day. We do if you're looking at pr0n, or if we get a complaint. *but* I'm willing to bet (though I probably shouldn't... what did we learn about betting!;p) that half the people that go ahead and read slashdot or whatever from their desk at work never even considered asking. Why? Probably because they're pretty sure they would be told 'no'. So they do it anyway. And what does that say?
The person was trying to illustrate a point about privacy and the implications software such as this has on our right to privacy.
The person, if they're really trying to do that, should realize something about the implication software such as this has on our right to privacy. (If it's installed on your computer at work.)
*none*
Remember when you have an expectation of privacy. In your purse, or bag. In your home. In the bathroom.
*NOT* in public. If you're walking around on the street, everyone can see what you're doing! My, imagine what that does to your right to privacy! And you don't have it here, either. Especially since they warn you! It's monitored, doofus!
Try to put it in perspective, instead of jumping on the 'cry wolf' bandwagon, okay? Fifty years ago, if an employer wanted to look at your files, it was perfectly normal. Now, if an employer wants to know what you're doing with his computer, it's an invasion?
Bull. People like the guy you're defending draw all sorts of insane parallels with this. Mind reading. Spy cameras in the bathroom. People like the guy you're defending have uh... mental problems.;p If you want to draw a parallel, how about this? You work for a company, and they give you a car, with the understanding that you're supposed to use it strictly for work purposes. In keeping with the slashdot story trend, this car has a GPS unit, that logs the cars position. Is this an invasion of privacy?
If you said no, then I wonder why you disagree with me so strongly. If you said yes, how about this: what if he just asks you where you've been? I find it hard to believe that you'd think that was an "invasion of privacy". And then what are you really saying? That it's okay for him to know what you do, so long as you can lie about it a little bit?
Yes, yes. I want to read their minds, and photograph them in the bathroom.
Let's play a game. Let's play the "Test to see if that's what I said game." It goes like this - I take the statements you say I made, and find out if I made them.
then you have a right to sneak into their purse
Nope.
And it's the company bathroom, too, so cameras in there are just fine.
Again, No.
And it's the company cafeteria and the company health insurance plan, so monitoring and regulating what employees have for lunch is a perfectly reasonable activity...
Wow. Again, not even close.
Are you having trouble staying on the same track? Maybe you have ADD? I recommend the advice of a health professional. In the meantime, let's talk about something even mildly related to what I said.
*COMPUTERS*
Of course, since you didn't actually argue against anything I said, I don't really have to elaborate my point! I guess you saved me some time, at least.;p
I guess that means it's OK to develop a thought-monitoring device and use it against those ungrateful bastards...
You can't just compare apples and apples, can you? You just sort of compare apples, and whatever-the-hell-you-want. That's a sure sign of someone who doesn't even know what point they're trying to make. That's your head, idiot. Even if I could read your thoughts, it's not appropriate. God knows why I'd want your thoughts, though, if they're all as good as the ones above.
In response to one of the other posts, that arguement is also flawed. Is it really appropriate to use office supplies that are not yours for personal correspondance? No. Not at all. Is it appropriate for you to write a letter to a friend on a break? Yes. But you'd better not use the company letterhead, and drop it in the slot, so they pay postage.
If you want to make an arguement that it's okay to use stuff that isn't yours for whatever means you want, go back to hippie land, okay? We're in the real world now. Grow up.
You're using a computer that isn't yours, bandwidth that isn't yours, and everything else. If you want to use it for personal shit, ask. Not many companies will tell you that it's okay. Most will tell you that it may be monitored. And it should be. If you want to bring in your laptop, cell phone, and fire off a private e-mail on a break, do it. But realize the difference between your stuff and not your stuff.
If you want to use the company PC, and the company bandwith, even forgetting company time to forward your friggin' chain e-mails around, I think the company has a right to know about it.
If you want to slack off so bad, open a frigging book. Or bring a Gameboy, if that's too intellectual for you.
I'm not going to roll over just because some people mistakeningly equates the ownership of property with absolute power of their use.
That's funny. Especially in this situation, how is that a mistake?
When we (meaning the IT department at my company) monitors what users are doing, either on the internet, or anything else, they're not just doing it on company time...
Well, if you're actually looking for legit help, I'll give you the one piece of advice about the only major Groupwise problem I've had - don't run it on the former version of Netware. They really don't test it all that well, and it really does make a difference.
If you have instability problems with the Groupwise 6 agent, move to Netware 6. On the two Groupwise 6 domains I have, I still have no issues. They're running on Netware 6.
I had the same problem years ago - Groupwise 5.5 on Netware 4.11. It was a little painful. Upgraded the server (fastest upgrading server OS I've seen lately) and it ran fine. On the 5.1 servers with GW 5.5, I still get the vaunted Novell two year uptime. (only because I don't patch as often as I should)
- They dont have STABLE standards support (IMAP, POP3, iCal, etc...)
I use IMAP and POP3 through GWIA for 700+ users, off one box. It's been up 60 days, and that's because we moved offices two months ago.
- They still havent integrated GW's user/password database into Novell's famed eDirectory/NDS database.
Maybe not, but I manage them using the same utility. Nobody has anything better, really. And because of the way the post office works, you have to communicate with a specific server agent, not just any server in the tree, so intergrating passwords wouldn't really help any, unless you have no tape backups.;p
- Very little administrative control over the mailboxes.
What complete bullshit. In NWAdmin, I can control every option of the GroupWise client, I can set it remotely, and I can grey out the option so the user can't change it. What the can't you do? You want to add rules or specific proxy access, just go in to their box with the client, and do it.
- Poor backup solution (you MUST shutdown the email system to get a reliable backup). No, the GWTSA's dont cut it (based on my personal experiences, and statements from senior techs at Novell)...
Not based on my experience with Backup Exec 9.0. Even if you don't use the GWTSA's, you just make everyone access the post office over IP, instead of file access, and backup the directory. The files locked by the agent can be rebuilt from the files that will never be locked.
- Novell has POOR support for automated administration and report generation out of GroupWise - GWCheck just does not cut it...
Hmmmm... I've never cared about getting a report, really. Besides, GWCheck is for repairing the system, not reporting. But since I don't know what kind of reports you'd like, I'll leave this one alone.
Groupwise is *great*. No, I don't work for Novell. Yes, I do administer a 2000 user enterprise system that runs Groupwise 5.5. We don't even need a dedicated e-mail guy, even for all 2000 users. And it doesn't even take up a big chunk of my time. I have 15 domains, 22 post offices, two internet gateway agents, and WebAccess set up. No issues, anywhere.
You'll have to explain to me what "is professional" about asking riddles at a job interview.
Oh, will I? Well, so long as I have to.
You, as a professional, should be able to deal with anything in a reasonable manner. Making snide remarks and walking out doesn't qualify. What happens if a customer ends up talking to you? Or someone from marketing? Perhaps they'll ask a question you feel is 'beneath you' and you can snap at them too. It is well within the responsability of the interviewer to ask you all sorts of things to see how you react to different situations. A riddle is hardly asking too much of you.
Unless you don't have a clue, lack any social skill or grace, and feel like an idiot. Then I guess you get mad and walk out. Not the interviewers loss, I assure you.
10BT NICs are cheap these days...
;p
I give up. I've been trying to figure out why you said that, but I can't. I'll just take this opportunity to point out that it's pretty hard to exploit a machine that doesn't have a NIC.
I never ask a question. I want to ask a question.
When you were doing all the initial work, putting things together, and figuring out how things 'should' be, did you ever consider how easy it would become?
I mean, did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine AOL, or something like it? Instant Messaging, Plug and Play, and everything else? To me, back in the good old days (tm) the obfuscation of computer networking was a boon, even in the early '90's. Like Usenet before 1996. I'll admit to enjoying things maybe a bit more when everyone and their grandmother didn't contribute to discussions with one sided opinions in all caps.
So, I guess it's a to part question - did you ever imagine it becoming so easy, and do you wish it had stayed harder?
That is, if it fails for any reason (file missing, user cancel, etc.), then it will completely roll-back and not leave bits of a partially installed application.
He's not kidding. Unless the program being installed was written by a malicious bunch of idiots, Windows Installer will do exactly that. It's quite capable doing so. It's also fairly easy to put together a package to be installed.
In fact, the only reason things get left behind at all is because things are created once the program is run for the first time that don't get put into the windows installer database. So, if you uninstall say, Starcraft, your saved games are left behind.
Don't laugh at something you clearly don't understand, or even use properly. You sound like a smug jackass when you make laugh at something, and then like a retard to boot when you're wrong.
When you actually *make* something, it's not a mystery business plan. You say, wittily:
1. Create 3D LCD that works without glasses.
2. ???
3. Profit!!!
In this case, ??? can be expressed as:
"Sell 3D LCD for more than it cost to manufacture it."
Okay?
Frig! I can't stand it when people are nice. It throws my whole world view out of wack.
;)
Okay, okay. I'm sorry I flamed you.
Well, since you don't want to (can't?) read the article linked to above before criticizing, I'll quote it for you.
Quinones are produced by epidermal cells for tanning the cuticle. This exists commonly in arthropods. [Dettner, 1987]
Some of the quinones don't get used up, but sit on the epidermis, making the arthropod distasteful. (Quinones are used as defensive secretions in a variety of modern arthropods, from beetles to millipedes. [Eisner, 1970])
Small invaginations develop in the epidermis between sclerites (plates of cuticle). By wiggling, the insect can squeeze more quinones onto its surface when they're needed.
The invaginations deepen. Muscles are moved around slightly, allowing them to help expel the quinones from some of them. (Many ants have glands similar to this near the end of their abdomen. [Holldobler & Wilson, 1990, pp. 233-237])
Some invaginations (now reservoirs) become so deep that the others are inconsequential by comparison. Those gradually revert to the original epidermis.
In various insects, different defensive chemicals besides quinones appear. (See Eisner, 1970, for a review.) This helps those insects defend against predators which have evolved resistance to quinones. One of the new defensive chemicals is hydroquinone.
Cells that secrete the hydroquinones develop in multiple layers over part of the reservoir, allowing more hydroquinones to be produced. Channels between cells allow hydroquinones from all layers to reach the reservoir.
The channels become a duct, specialized for transporting the chemicals. The secretory cells withdraw from the reservoir surface, ultimately becoming a separate organ.
This stage -- secretory glands connected by ducts to reservoirs -- exists in many beetles. The particular configuration of glands and reservoirs that bombardier beetles have is common to the other beetles in their suborder. [Forsyth, 1970]
Muscles adapt which close off the reservoir, thus preventing the chemicals from leaking out when they're not needed.
Hydrogen peroxide, which is a common by-product of cellular metabolism, becomes mixed with the hydroquinones. The two react slowly, so a mixture of quinones and hydroquinones gets used for defense.
Cells secreting a small amount of catalases and peroxidases appear along the output passage of the reservoir, outside the valve which closes it off from the outside. These ensure that more quinones appear in the defensive secretions. Catalases exist in almost all cells, and peroxidases are also common in plants, animals, and bacteria, so those chemicals needn't be developed from scratch but merely concentrated in one location.
More catalases and peroxidases are produced, so the discharge is warmer and is expelled faster by the oxygen generated by the reaction.
The walls of that part of the output passage become firmer, allowing them to better withstand the heat and pressure generated by the reaction.
Still more catalases and peroxidases are produced, and the walls toughen and shape into a reaction chamber. Gradually they become the mechanism of today's bombardier beetles.
The tip of the beetle's abdomen becomes somewhat elongated and more flexible, allowing the beetle to aim its discharge in various directions.
Why, that sounds like a series of random... oh, forget it. You'll probably ignore this too.
Not bad. Not bad at all. =)
The WRX, and most of the other Subie 4 bangers are boxers, and they do corner on rails. Can't deny that. But as long as we're modding...
I'd like to drop a vette off with dear Mr. John Lingenfelter. Mmmmm, Lingenfelter. Sorry. Anyway, you can read what happens for $5,700 here. Granted, I'm spending more. Of course, you get a warrenty, and you're not using used parts. Oh yes. And you do 0-60 in 3.7 seconds. You tick the quarter mile in under 12. That's if your foot has the brains to not boil the tires. You're damn near the fastest thing on the planet with four wheels. Italian babies? Naw. Japanese babies? Naw. Even Germany is left wanting.
Oh yeah. And you forgot the soul. Baby got soul! She's big, mean, and terrible in the snow. =)
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tape. =)
Christ. I drive a Impreza, and still think you're an idiot. If you only bolt on *list of parts here* you'd be kicking *insert name of other car here*'s ass!
;p
Do you understand anything about emissions, reliability, or really, anything past driving a car as hard as you can for a few hours, and then giving the engine a nice overhaul? I'm sure a WRX that already gets like, 100 hp/liter will be doing fine after 10,000 miles trying to make 150 hp/liter+. There's a reason they don't leave the factory that way.
The vette sells because it *moves*. It rolls. Baby's got soul. She rumbles. Clearly you don't understand.
Oh, and you can pick a vette up for $45k. The subie's going for $26k. You're already over half the money, sport. But don't let math slow you down.
Especially if you're 'bolting on' a new turbo. Ha! Lemme know how that turns out, would you? Here's a link, where you can pick one up for four grand, not installed: WRX Turbo Upgrade. Whoops. You're past 30k on a Subaru. Not counting all the other parts you want. Then bring it in for a warrenty job when the tranny goes, would ya?
I know, I know. Offtopic. Fine.
I thought I was going to be able to say 'ah-ha!' until you asked about ballroom dancing. ;p
320 GB.
;p
Wireless LAN.
Did you really say that? Since you'll be going from house to house, let's say you're blessed and/or have an external antenna, and can get actual throughput of 8Mbit/sec.
So... well... carry the one... I come up with 114 hours. Give or take. Assuming a miracle signal. And that you or your neighbor won't restart, disconnect the lan, or run around in lead signal-blocking pants for five consecutive days.
Yahoo.
(like Detroit) have worse health care systems/infant mortality rates than Libya, for example (despite the US sanctions), yet still many USians connect to the internet.
I guarantee you that the mothers in Detroit that give birth to babies already addicted to crack are *not* the same people that spend a great deal of time on the internet.
One more time, ladies and gentlemen. The internet is not *all* it's cracked up to be. It is not a hot bowl of soup, nor is it your teacher. It's certainly not your parents, and it really shouldn't be your friend. It's a tool. And, a lot like a wrench, it's not the answer to every problem.
This is because searches rely on using the google.com DNS entry. So even though you browse to google by using 111.222.111.222 or whatever, the search result URL is still www.google.com/blahblahblah.
;p
To fix this problem, you need to edit your local hosts file to manually resolve google.com. If you let me know what OS you run, I can tell you exactly how to do it. This will only work if they're only filtering google.com the name, and not the IP address. But if you get the site by putting in the ip, that's probably what they're doing. How dumb!
Of course, you could use a search engine to find out how as well.
Go do a little research, heck, take a PHYSICS class before you make those statements. Try to understand the constraints involved, they ain't trivial.
I think that was the whole point. Pure EV cars are a dead-end technology. That's why everyone is looking into hybrids.
And I bet you are writing this email on company time, using a company supplied computer, company supplied software, and company supplied bandwidth.
;p) that half the people that go ahead and read slashdot or whatever from their desk at work never even considered asking. Why? Probably because they're pretty sure they would be told 'no'. So they do it anyway. And what does that say?
That just goes to show you that you shouldn't make bets unless you actually *know* something about the thing you're betting about.
In other words, *Bzzzzt*! That's wrong, Chuck! Tell him about his lovely parting gifts!
As far as I'm concerned, they are lucky to have employees who are as talented and hard working as we are.
Their luck balances out with lazy, shiftless employees that rely on doing just enough to not get fired, believe me.
Letting us get a little down time here and there, while providing us with a little extra bandwidth for reading news sites, should be considered a part of our jobs.
I never argued with that. And if you've asked your employer if you can do that, and he said it was okay, then by all means! In my company, while we monitor, we warn that it's monitored. And as the IT department, we don't contact your supervisor if you're reading nytimes.com all day. We don't even say anything if you're using hotjobs.com for (like some people do) over an hour each day. We do if you're looking at pr0n, or if we get a complaint. *but* I'm willing to bet (though I probably shouldn't... what did we learn about betting!
The person was trying to illustrate a point about privacy and the implications software such as this has on our right to privacy.
;p If you want to draw a parallel, how about this? You work for a company, and they give you a car, with the understanding that you're supposed to use it strictly for work purposes. In keeping with the slashdot story trend, this car has a GPS unit, that logs the cars position. Is this an invasion of privacy?
The person, if they're really trying to do that, should realize something about the implication software such as this has on our right to privacy. (If it's installed on your computer at work.)
*none*
Remember when you have an expectation of privacy. In your purse, or bag. In your home. In the bathroom.
*NOT* in public. If you're walking around on the street, everyone can see what you're doing! My, imagine what that does to your right to privacy! And you don't have it here, either. Especially since they warn you! It's monitored, doofus!
Try to put it in perspective, instead of jumping on the 'cry wolf' bandwagon, okay? Fifty years ago, if an employer wanted to look at your files, it was perfectly normal. Now, if an employer wants to know what you're doing with his computer, it's an invasion?
Bull. People like the guy you're defending draw all sorts of insane parallels with this. Mind reading. Spy cameras in the bathroom. People like the guy you're defending have uh... mental problems.
If you said no, then I wonder why you disagree with me so strongly. If you said yes, how about this: what if he just asks you where you've been? I find it hard to believe that you'd think that was an "invasion of privacy". And then what are you really saying? That it's okay for him to know what you do, so long as you can lie about it a little bit?
Har. Blinders indeed.
Yes, yes. I want to read their minds, and photograph them in the bathroom.
;p
Let's play a game. Let's play the "Test to see if that's what I said game." It goes like this - I take the statements you say I made, and find out if I made them.
then you have a right to sneak into their purse
Nope.
And it's the company bathroom, too, so cameras in there are just fine.
Again, No.
And it's the company cafeteria and the company health insurance plan, so monitoring and regulating what employees have for lunch is a perfectly reasonable activity...
Wow. Again, not even close.
Are you having trouble staying on the same track? Maybe you have ADD? I recommend the advice of a health professional. In the meantime, let's talk about something even mildly related to what I said.
*COMPUTERS*
Of course, since you didn't actually argue against anything I said, I don't really have to elaborate my point! I guess you saved me some time, at least.
I guess that means it's OK to develop a thought-monitoring device and use it against those ungrateful bastards...
You can't just compare apples and apples, can you? You just sort of compare apples, and whatever-the-hell-you-want. That's a sure sign of someone who doesn't even know what point they're trying to make. That's your head, idiot. Even if I could read your thoughts, it's not appropriate. God knows why I'd want your thoughts, though, if they're all as good as the ones above.
In response to one of the other posts, that arguement is also flawed. Is it really appropriate to use office supplies that are not yours for personal correspondance? No. Not at all. Is it appropriate for you to write a letter to a friend on a break? Yes. But you'd better not use the company letterhead, and drop it in the slot, so they pay postage.
If you want to make an arguement that it's okay to use stuff that isn't yours for whatever means you want, go back to hippie land, okay? We're in the real world now. Grow up.
You're using a computer that isn't yours, bandwidth that isn't yours, and everything else. If you want to use it for personal shit, ask. Not many companies will tell you that it's okay. Most will tell you that it may be monitored. And it should be. If you want to bring in your laptop, cell phone, and fire off a private e-mail on a break, do it. But realize the difference between your stuff and not your stuff.
Wow, you're a confused reactionary. Congrats.
If you want to use the company PC, and the company bandwith, even forgetting company time to forward your friggin' chain e-mails around, I think the company has a right to know about it.
If you want to slack off so bad, open a frigging book. Or bring a Gameboy, if that's too intellectual for you.
I'm not going to roll over just because some people mistakeningly equates the ownership of property with absolute power of their use.
That's funny. Especially in this situation, how is that a mistake?
You're leaving out one major point -
When we (meaning the IT department at my company) monitors what users are doing, either on the internet, or anything else, they're not just doing it on company time...
They're doing it with company computers.
Well, if you're actually looking for legit help, I'll give you the one piece of advice about the only major Groupwise problem I've had - don't run it on the former version of Netware. They really don't test it all that well, and it really does make a difference.
If you have instability problems with the Groupwise 6 agent, move to Netware 6. On the two Groupwise 6 domains I have, I still have no issues. They're running on Netware 6.
I had the same problem years ago - Groupwise 5.5 on Netware 4.11. It was a little painful. Upgraded the server (fastest upgrading server OS I've seen lately) and it ran fine. On the 5.1 servers with GW 5.5, I still get the vaunted Novell two year uptime. (only because I don't patch as often as I should)
You're just pissy because the server side agent doesn't have a GUI. ;p
Seriously, I don't have *any* of these problems. If you really have such huge problems, have you tried asking anyone for help? Ever?
- They dont have STABLE standards support (IMAP, POP3, iCal, etc...)
;p
I use IMAP and POP3 through GWIA for 700+ users, off one box. It's been up 60 days, and that's because we moved offices two months ago.
- They still havent integrated GW's user/password database into Novell's famed eDirectory/NDS database.
Maybe not, but I manage them using the same utility. Nobody has anything better, really. And because of the way the post office works, you have to communicate with a specific server agent, not just any server in the tree, so intergrating passwords wouldn't really help any, unless you have no tape backups.
- Very little administrative control over the mailboxes.
What complete bullshit. In NWAdmin, I can control every option of the GroupWise client, I can set it remotely, and I can grey out the option so the user can't change it. What the can't you do? You want to add rules or specific proxy access, just go in to their box with the client, and do it.
- Poor backup solution (you MUST shutdown the email system to get a reliable backup). No, the GWTSA's dont cut it (based on my personal experiences, and statements from senior techs at Novell)...
Not based on my experience with Backup Exec 9.0. Even if you don't use the GWTSA's, you just make everyone access the post office over IP, instead of file access, and backup the directory. The files locked by the agent can be rebuilt from the files that will never be locked.
- Novell has POOR support for automated administration and report generation out of GroupWise - GWCheck just does not cut it...
Hmmmm... I've never cared about getting a report, really. Besides, GWCheck is for repairing the system, not reporting. But since I don't know what kind of reports you'd like, I'll leave this one alone.
Groupwise is *great*. No, I don't work for Novell. Yes, I do administer a 2000 user enterprise system that runs Groupwise 5.5. We don't even need a dedicated e-mail guy, even for all 2000 users. And it doesn't even take up a big chunk of my time. I have 15 domains, 22 post offices, two internet gateway agents, and WebAccess set up. No issues, anywhere.
*ever*
I think you're doing something wrong.
Is it remove a state from the union? Or like, remove a state, sink California? ;p
I think my answer is Wyoming, either way, since it has the least number of people. Am I completely missing the point?
You'll have to explain to me what "is professional" about asking riddles at a job interview.
Oh, will I? Well, so long as I have to.
You, as a professional, should be able to deal with anything in a reasonable manner. Making snide remarks and walking out doesn't qualify. What happens if a customer ends up talking to you? Or someone from marketing? Perhaps they'll ask a question you feel is 'beneath you' and you can snap at them too. It is well within the responsability of the interviewer to ask you all sorts of things to see how you react to different situations. A riddle is hardly asking too much of you.
Unless you don't have a clue, lack any social skill or grace, and feel like an idiot. Then I guess you get mad and walk out. Not the interviewers loss, I assure you.