If they supported other browsers...couldnt you then use any OS?
Not trying to troll...I just cannot see why its necessary to force someone to promote their competition...
TFA is about what the EU has forced microsoft to do. All the while apple is allowed a free pass to engage in the exact same behavior, based on the presumption that microsoft has a monopoly, which they do not.
Monopoly:
(economics) a market in which there are many buyers but only one seller; "a monopoly on silver"; "when you have a monopoly you can ask any price...
Now lets see here....
Apple + Microsoft + 2346059 linux distros > 1.
Microsoft has an absurdly high market share, that doesn't mean there isn't alternatives...
I'm not trolling anything, the article states that the bill specifies those who 'have been found to download' to me that implies a burden of proof that an illegal act was committed.
Assuming that there is a burden of proof, than I absolutely agree that there should be a series of punishments for committing a crime.
You will not beat the RIAA/MPAA/etc by stealing their content, the only way to really affect the market is to support artists who welcome new technology. Claiming something isnt worth paying for and then downloading and listening/watching/wtfever to it simply gives them the impression that there IS a demand for their product and that they SHOULD keep fighting for its protection.
The internet community defends file sharing as a way to transfer things legally, this bill only addresses if you *break the law* and download copyrighted material
Just because you don't believe book/song/game/software/etc is good enough to pay fore, that doesn't give you the right to take it for free, period.
Common sense would dictate that when you steal something, you get punished
See, if you're going to go all political and off-topic, you should at least try and make some sort of attempt to link it to the story at hand...
for example...
If you look at the facts the conficker virus and waladac botnet are CLEARLY parts of a vast left wing conspiracy which is obviously fronted by obama because the democrats want to take as much of your processing power as they do your income
Do you really want microsoft to release their code openly to the entire malware world?
No matter how security conscious or computer adept you are, consider for a second the fact that the majority of people aren't, and will be more than happy to unwittingly let their computer become a member of a botnet, spamming your inbox, and bogging down bandwith everywhere.
The reality is that for the majority of computer users in their ineptitude(not an insult, simply reality, most people dont know, dont want to know, and dont give a shit about anything more than surfing the internet, checking their email, and using word) it is not in the computing worlds best interest for their core operating system software to be open sourced.
Because there arent thousands of abandoned unsupported open source projects out there on the interwebs?
Microsoft has WAY better support and documentation than the overwhelming (read: 99%+) majority of the open source communities software. period.
How exactly is it illegal, or should it be illegal to include in your operating system?
Shit. Windows comes with a file compression utility, theres other software companies that make them... MONOPOLY.
Crap. Windows comes with a file browser, theres other file browsers out there, OH FUCK, ABUSE OF POWER.
WTF...windows includes a game of solitaire, media player, taskbar, simple text program, and even a taskbar, WOE IS ME, POOR COMPUTER USER.
And wtf...windows even includes SCREENSAVES AND WALLPAPER?!?!?!? what the fuck are all of the websites that give you screensavers and wallpapers going to do...MICROSOFT MUST BE STOPPED.
If you want to buy an operating system that comes preloaded with a bunch of shit, buy windows or apple, based on your preference.
If you want to figure all that shit out on your own, use linux.
Its not so complicated...Mods...go to work
Oh, right, to the people suggesting that microsoft should have to bundle COMPETITORS software on its operating system...
ARE YOU RETARDED...and thats not a comical question, i'm 100% serious....are you retarded?
Please try and identify other markets where companies are FORCED to market their COMPETITORS services...
Does anybody but me feel that The Joker had done a similar thing with the ferries as he did with rachel and dent and their locations?
He knew that batman would go for rachel, so he swapped the locations, I'm betting that in some interview down the line it will come out that the detonators on each of the ferries would have blown up their OWN ship, as part of jokers proving that the city was beyond saving, and to prove to people how morally depraved they are and give them what they deserve.
Anybody else see what im saying/agree?
i thought file formats served as a means to get a bunch of grumpy lawyers and talking heads to argue about things and collect a paycheck, while really not caring what the consumer thinks
er...it seems i really have no clue what im talking about with this.
What i'm trying to say is, if office plays fine with itself, why dont open-source developers conform to it, instead of expecting a for-profit company to pay to make themselves compatible with the competition
Why is it that microsofts format should conform to OOXML's test?
If it works suitably for microsofts purposes, why doesnt OOXML figure out how to be compatible with it if they want compatibility so bad?
I fail to see why people constantly rag on microsoft for not opening source/making every single product of theirs 100% compatible with open source.
Microsoft is a for profit business...there is not really any incentive for them to *spend money* to make it easier for people to move away from their office suite...
I cant stand the whiney open source people who seem to think that just because they want to do something one way that closed-source companies should adapt their business practices to meet them.
I dont really know a huge deal about the document formatting deal, but what i do know is that I've never had any problem with MS office in the years i've used it for everything from school, to work , to personal projects, so why should they change it to meet someone elses standards now?
Could the summary have possibly been written any more biased?
Its weird how (the majority of) slashdot is entirely anti regulation when it comes to personal regulation by the government. Its even more weird how (the majority of) slashdot happens to be pro regulation when it comes to protecting your 'right' to steal.
Go figure.
If the people(most of whom are just trying to provide an excuse for comitting a crime...) who claim that the music/movie/isp industry 'needs to change' legitimately wanted to see change, they wouldnt be downloading any illegal movies/music at all. They would be downloading and donating towards independant music/movies exclusively.
People dont like how the riaa calls downloads a 'lost sale'. Well, if you're a salesman, and you have someone interested in your product but who decides not to buy it, that is a lost sale. The fact that you downloaded proves your interest in said item. As long as people are interested in the current product, change will be shunned.
But, the FACT is that the majority of people do not actually want any change in the industry, the only REAL reason 90% of the people crying about p2p filtering/net neutrality care about it is to allow themselves to STEAL
Skimming through the comments on the article, there was a lot of discussion over how 'artists think they deserve to be paid for their work'...well...
since when do you deserve to get music/movies for free? If you dont want to pay for it, than dont get it...its not complicated.
In whatever job you do, would you consider it fine if people could just ignore whatever price you have for your work, and not pay you?
Hopefully it will end up being like windows ME -> windows XP, with vista being ME, and the new OS representing XP.
Contrary to peoples constant whining, vista is a reasonable enough O/S, the only problem i've seen with it is the resource intensiveness. Rarely do i ever have crash problems.
But this will turn into another 300 comment microsoft hate-o-thon just because of story that is an unverified RUMOR about an operating system that nobody responding has even SEEN yet.
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If they supported other browsers...couldnt you then use any OS? Not trying to troll...I just cannot see why its necessary to force someone to promote their competition...
Isnt that the developers fault for not supporting multiple browsers?
TFA is about what the EU has forced microsoft to do. All the while apple is allowed a free pass to engage in the exact same behavior, based on the presumption that microsoft has a monopoly, which they do not.
Let me know when you can run every bundled mac app on windows?
Monopoly: (economics) a market in which there are many buyers but only one seller; "a monopoly on silver"; "when you have a monopoly you can ask any price ...
Now lets see here....
Apple + Microsoft + 2346059 linux distros > 1.
Microsoft has an absurdly high market share, that doesn't mean there isn't alternatives...
Because, Firefox, Safari, Chrome, and Opera were all named because of their usefulness...
When are they going to force Apple to do the same?
um...troll?
I'm not trolling anything, the article states that the bill specifies those who 'have been found to download' to me that implies a burden of proof that an illegal act was committed.
Assuming that there is a burden of proof, than I absolutely agree that there should be a series of punishments for committing a crime.
You will not beat the RIAA/MPAA/etc by stealing their content, the only way to really affect the market is to support artists who welcome new technology. Claiming something isnt worth paying for and then downloading and listening/watching/wtfever to it simply gives them the impression that there IS a demand for their product and that they SHOULD keep fighting for its protection.
I fail to see how this is common sense
The internet community defends file sharing as a way to transfer things legally, this bill only addresses if you *break the law* and download copyrighted material
Just because you don't believe book/song/game/software/etc is good enough to pay fore, that doesn't give you the right to take it for free, period.
Common sense would dictate that when you steal something, you get punished
I would think that the security companies would at some level keep things running 24/7, since the internet never sleeps
And if not, thats very surprising to me
See, if you're going to go all political and off-topic, you should at least try and make some sort of attempt to link it to the story at hand...
for example...
If you look at the facts the conficker virus and waladac botnet are CLEARLY parts of a vast left wing conspiracy which is obviously fronted by obama because the democrats want to take as much of your processing power as they do your income
Do you really want microsoft to release their code openly to the entire malware world?
No matter how security conscious or computer adept you are, consider for a second the fact that the majority of people aren't, and will be more than happy to unwittingly let their computer become a member of a botnet, spamming your inbox, and bogging down bandwith everywhere.
The reality is that for the majority of computer users in their ineptitude(not an insult, simply reality, most people dont know, dont want to know, and dont give a shit about anything more than surfing the internet, checking their email, and using word) it is not in the computing worlds best interest for their core operating system software to be open sourced.
Because there arent thousands of abandoned unsupported open source projects out there on the interwebs?
Microsoft has WAY better support and documentation than the overwhelming (read: 99%+) majority of the open source communities software. period.
How exactly is it illegal, or should it be illegal to include in your operating system? Shit. Windows comes with a file compression utility, theres other software companies that make them... MONOPOLY. Crap. Windows comes with a file browser, theres other file browsers out there, OH FUCK, ABUSE OF POWER. WTF...windows includes a game of solitaire, media player, taskbar, simple text program, and even a taskbar, WOE IS ME, POOR COMPUTER USER. And wtf...windows even includes SCREENSAVES AND WALLPAPER?!?!?!? what the fuck are all of the websites that give you screensavers and wallpapers going to do...MICROSOFT MUST BE STOPPED. If you want to buy an operating system that comes preloaded with a bunch of shit, buy windows or apple, based on your preference. If you want to figure all that shit out on your own, use linux. Its not so complicated...Mods...go to work Oh, right, to the people suggesting that microsoft should have to bundle COMPETITORS software on its operating system... ARE YOU RETARDED...and thats not a comical question, i'm 100% serious....are you retarded? Please try and identify other markets where companies are FORCED to market their COMPETITORS services...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030035-2.html http://google.client.shareholder.com/Visitors/event/build2/MediaPresentation.cfm?MediaID=33101&Player=1#
that was fast...
because we know all the smart people wear 1" thick glasses!
Does anybody but me feel that The Joker had done a similar thing with the ferries as he did with rachel and dent and their locations? He knew that batman would go for rachel, so he swapped the locations, I'm betting that in some interview down the line it will come out that the detonators on each of the ferries would have blown up their OWN ship, as part of jokers proving that the city was beyond saving, and to prove to people how morally depraved they are and give them what they deserve. Anybody else see what im saying/agree?
i thought file formats served as a means to get a bunch of grumpy lawyers and talking heads to argue about things and collect a paycheck, while really not caring what the consumer thinks
er...it seems i really have no clue what im talking about with this. What i'm trying to say is, if office plays fine with itself, why dont open-source developers conform to it, instead of expecting a for-profit company to pay to make themselves compatible with the competition
Why is it that microsofts format should conform to OOXML's test?
If it works suitably for microsofts purposes, why doesnt OOXML figure out how to be compatible with it if they want compatibility so bad?
I fail to see why people constantly rag on microsoft for not opening source/making every single product of theirs 100% compatible with open source.
Microsoft is a for profit business...there is not really any incentive for them to *spend money* to make it easier for people to move away from their office suite...
I cant stand the whiney open source people who seem to think that just because they want to do something one way that closed-source companies should adapt their business practices to meet them.
I dont really know a huge deal about the document formatting deal, but what i do know is that I've never had any problem with MS office in the years i've used it for everything from school, to work , to personal projects, so why should they change it to meet someone elses standards now?
Could the summary have possibly been written any more biased?
Its weird how (the majority of) slashdot is entirely anti regulation when it comes to personal regulation by the government.
Its even more weird how (the majority of) slashdot happens to be pro regulation when it comes to protecting your 'right' to steal.
Go figure.
If the people(most of whom are just trying to provide an excuse for comitting a crime...) who claim that the music/movie/isp industry 'needs to change' legitimately wanted to see change, they wouldnt be downloading any illegal movies/music at all. They would be downloading and donating towards independant music/movies exclusively.
People dont like how the riaa calls downloads a 'lost sale'. Well, if you're a salesman, and you have someone interested in your product but who decides not to buy it, that is a lost sale. The fact that you downloaded proves your interest in said item. As long as people are interested in the current product, change will be shunned.
But, the FACT is that the majority of people do not actually want any change in the industry, the only REAL reason 90% of the people crying about p2p filtering/net neutrality care about it is to allow themselves to STEAL
The solution is clearly to blame microsoft for it.
Skimming through the comments on the article, there was a lot of discussion over how 'artists think they deserve to be paid for their work' ...well...
since when do you deserve to get music/movies for free? If you dont want to pay for it, than dont get it...its not complicated.
In whatever job you do, would you consider it fine if people could just ignore whatever price you have for your work, and not pay you?
Hopefully it will end up being like windows ME -> windows XP, with vista being ME, and the new OS representing XP. Contrary to peoples constant whining, vista is a reasonable enough O/S, the only problem i've seen with it is the resource intensiveness. Rarely do i ever have crash problems. But this will turn into another 300 comment microsoft hate-o-thon just because of story that is an unverified RUMOR about an operating system that nobody responding has even SEEN yet.