I've seen some pretty rubbish SlashDot questions, but this really takes the cake. 5 minutes of Google searching would have revealed Password Safe, Keepass, and all manner of other free secure password databases / keyrings.
I'm not talking about privacy, I'm talking about feasibility. The sheer financial burden of implementing a reliable and comprehensive monitoring system is just unimaginable without throwing cash at it ad infinitum (hence it's a Government idea). We're not talking "Great firewall of China" blocking, which is easy, but actually allowing the connections, and logging each and every one of them, in a forensically secure manner.
Retaining personal privacy is a by-product of this system being completely idiotic to even suggest. I wouldn't dare try and fight the personal liberty point on this, as we both know neither the ISPs or the Government care about it. They do, however, care about money, and the ISPs need to figure out that maintaining a system like this, bearing in mind the rapid increase in broadband speeds occuring (ADSL2+ and fibre-to-the-home rollout) has already saturated the equipment they have right now without monitoring overheads.
FireEye employees have access computer systems they are not authorised to access, and have halted services and caused malicious damage. Bottom line.
If any of those control servers were in the UK, I'd be writing to my MP to illustrate this point and calling for extradition of all employees which engaged in this activity. Garry McKinnon performed no such actions of damage, with no intent to deny access to any system whatsoever, unlike these "security researchers" (crackers).
Ever consider that the latest and greatest feature in the latest and greatest, multi-million unit shipping product may be using code you developed?
Ever wanted to maybe boost your pay by jumping to a new company, based on that?
Tough shit. They don't have to say you had anything to do with it. They can just collect the bounty and laugh all the way to the bank. They might have a toast in your name for being a baffoon. Hell, they can even say they developed it themselves, as long as they can read what you've coded. If you're happy with that then fine, amazing, how altruistic of you. I applaud you.
Linux users with working DVB capture cards are few and far between, but users of HTML5 [video] elements utilising open video formats should be ubiquitous over the next year. That's a potential increase in License Fee collection, and any increase is good.
Especially as everyone else is doing the development work for them.
Not at all. You pay your $1000 per year in case you suffer damage from fire, theft, water, or other agents you are insured against. You weight up the value of your property against the risk of such a loss, and you decide whether $1000 per year is worth the outlay on that basis. There's a reason for insurance being called reverse gambling; You pay your premium because you cannot afford to replace the goods you will lose if they are damaged or stolen. This is why expensive cars are typically insured Fully Comprehensive, and cheap Third party only.
If you're happy with being able to replace your goods, or you aren't worried about their loss, then don't insure anything. That doesn't mean you can beat a thief to a bloody pulp just because you like your stereo more than he does, though.
So you're saying that without knowing the key, key size, algorithm, salt, or context of plaintext of a data transmission, the government can decrypt a thousand streams of data per minute?
I'll give them 10 minutes to "decrypt" my explorer.exe file with the extension changed to.txt. Oh look, the system is broken.
Criminals have more rights than straight ppl here now on the protecting your family front , you cant touch them if they break in your home, they can sue you for assault
You can act in defence of your person, or the defence of a person unable to defend themselves (a child / the frail), but not to defend property. Your property should be insured, and your loss negligible.
I'll be honest, if someone breaks into my house, my words to him will be, in as calm a voice as I can muster "My property is insured. As long as you're only here for property, I'll keep out of your way." Not only may that reduce the chance of myself being attacked, but also prevent excessive damage being caused to my home. I can only hope, anyway.
Exactly, and the government want to drastically reduce the amount of money they make by making them inspect, analyse, log, and archive every single identifying byte of information which comes over their pipes, voice or data. As long as someone is communicating with someone else, they want it logged. You don't think that will seriously infringe on the CEO's Bentley fund?
Again, you've missed the point. The government can't afford to not have internet (and telephone) service, even for a day. The country cannot afford it. Any government which stops LSE trading for an hour will be met with investment bankers and stock brokers outside Parliament with brick and chain, and a chant of "referendum, referendunm, referendum"
If they could all agree to mount piledrivers over the UK - Mainland Europe fibre backbones, this idea would fall flat on its face in seconds. Too bad nobody has the balls to actually try it.
Illegal collusion? You're missing the point. How do the Gov. enforce a penalty for that, even? What length would the government go to? I have the feeling that a further day would have them backing down; That's two days of the LSE not trading.
What would happen if all of the major UK ISPs sued, or outright refused to implement this monitoring system? Would they be fined? Would the Gov. be able to get them to pay?
Would cutting the UK off from the rest of the world for a day (in protest) be an effective demonstration of how costly this would be?
The only people you'll catch with this are folks who have been baited, or don't know what's going on. Ever clicked on a TinyURL link and been presented with one of the "Unholy Trinity"? Well, all it takes is one prick to make it a link to a CP thread on 4Chan and *BAM* jail. Been sent an email from someone you don't recognise and Outlook auto previews an image in the same vein? *BAM* jail.
Pretty soon, I'll be ensuring that anyone I chat to either uses some kind of end-to-end encryption, or I'll just pipe anything apart from iPlayer and WoW through a VPN out of the country. At least that way, if I ever am conned into viewing something HM Gov says I shouldn't, I won't end up on a register for it.
I'm not talking about how you dress when you're doing your job, I'm talking about how you dress when you're meeting the people who decide whether you are expendable or not.
I don't wear a tie either, but I do wear pressed trousers, shirt, and polished shoes. Just like you. Thanks for agreeing with me.
I understand that I'm on a contested connection, and quite a way from my local exchange. I don't expect 8Mb 24/7, and I'm happy when I get it. I've had 1.2MB/s (yeah, big B) at around 10pm, but that was a freak occurrence. All in all, 4Mb/s is enough for watching TV on demand, playing WoW, downloading updates etc. I can manually throttle traffic at the router if I run multiple apps at once, but that's rarely the case.
I don't even see it as lowering my expectations; I see it as being realistic. There's a reason for T1 being 1/4 of my connection speed, but costing 20x more.
Wear a tie. Polish your shoes. Make sure the colour of your belt matches your shoe colour, and your socks match. Get a haircut the day before.
Small things, but they make you look professional. I'm not sure if you dress like that every day, maybe you do, but if he glazes over during technical blurb you may find him considering whether you get a bonus based on whether your shirt does or doesn't have a burrito stain on it.
People aren't going to buy it? Where have you been? The O2-only Apple deal went out months ago, and Orange will be carrying it soon. Other providers soon after.
No links, as I can't be bothered and I'm sure you can use Google
As I posted a few days ago, I've realised that much like all manufacturers specs, ISP speeds and numbers are padded and offer performance under optimal conditions.
I look at all ISP promises as I do most specs now; Drop by 50%. Now I realise that I'm paying £30 per month for 4Mb downstream, and I'm quite happy with that. In fact, I'm over the moon when I get 6Mb! It's like I'm getting 50% extra free!
It's a touch kinder and gentler than the days of the (Un)Holy Inquisition where if you drowned you were innocent and if you didn't they'd burn you
Not really. At least when you drown you've only got 5 minutes, and being burned probably about 10. This guy (and anyone else in this situation) has to live with it until he hangs himself in a motel room, overdoses on heroin, drinks bleach, or slits his own wrists.
Surely one look at the log could have told you it was an automated connection. And from talking to a buddy in the state crime lab he says the real CP guys are pretty easy to spot, as they keep tons of the crap lying around on DVDs, flash drives, etc, so a basic search warrant could have shown whether he was a CP perv or not.
How very 2000. I would have thought that in this age of full-disk encryption, or hidden encrypted volumes, that they would have
... dumped who knows what into the system files in encrypted folders...
A video illustrates just how fast compilation is: the entire language, 120K lines, compiles in under 10 sec. on a laptop
When would dev's ever have time for wheelie-chair sword duels?!
What if you forget your algorithm?
Let me Google that for you...
I've seen some pretty rubbish SlashDot questions, but this really takes the cake. 5 minutes of Google searching would have revealed Password Safe, Keepass, and all manner of other free secure password databases / keyrings.
Drop kdawson as an editor.
He didn't know your password. He just typed "hunter32" but you saw it as "********" because that's your password.
So he doesn't know my password? This is all too confusing...
Ugh, sweet Jesus on a broomstick.
I'm not talking about privacy, I'm talking about feasibility. The sheer financial burden of implementing a reliable and comprehensive monitoring system is just unimaginable without throwing cash at it ad infinitum (hence it's a Government idea). We're not talking "Great firewall of China" blocking, which is easy, but actually allowing the connections, and logging each and every one of them, in a forensically secure manner.
Retaining personal privacy is a by-product of this system being completely idiotic to even suggest. I wouldn't dare try and fight the personal liberty point on this, as we both know neither the ISPs or the Government care about it. They do, however, care about money, and the ISPs need to figure out that maintaining a system like this, bearing in mind the rapid increase in broadband speeds occuring (ADSL2+ and fibre-to-the-home rollout) has already saturated the equipment they have right now without monitoring overheads.
FireEye employees have access computer systems they are not authorised to access, and have halted services and caused malicious damage. Bottom line.
If any of those control servers were in the UK, I'd be writing to my MP to illustrate this point and calling for extradition of all employees which engaged in this activity. Garry McKinnon performed no such actions of damage, with no intent to deny access to any system whatsoever, unlike these "security researchers" (crackers).
Troll? No, just looking for some consistency.
Ever consider that the latest and greatest feature in the latest and greatest, multi-million unit shipping product may be using code you developed?
Ever wanted to maybe boost your pay by jumping to a new company, based on that?
Tough shit. They don't have to say you had anything to do with it. They can just collect the bounty and laugh all the way to the bank. They might have a toast in your name for being a baffoon. Hell, they can even say they developed it themselves, as long as they can read what you've coded. If you're happy with that then fine, amazing, how altruistic of you. I applaud you.
We need to get them to see the numbers.
Linux users with working DVB capture cards are few and far between, but users of HTML5 [video] elements utilising open video formats should be ubiquitous over the next year. That's a potential increase in License Fee collection, and any increase is good.
Especially as everyone else is doing the development work for them.
Not at all. You pay your $1000 per year in case you suffer damage from fire, theft, water, or other agents you are insured against. You weight up the value of your property against the risk of such a loss, and you decide whether $1000 per year is worth the outlay on that basis. There's a reason for insurance being called reverse gambling; You pay your premium because you cannot afford to replace the goods you will lose if they are damaged or stolen. This is why expensive cars are typically insured Fully Comprehensive, and cheap Third party only.
If you're happy with being able to replace your goods, or you aren't worried about their loss, then don't insure anything. That doesn't mean you can beat a thief to a bloody pulp just because you like your stereo more than he does, though.
So you're saying that without knowing the key, key size, algorithm, salt, or context of plaintext of a data transmission, the government can decrypt a thousand streams of data per minute?
.txt. Oh look, the system is broken.
I'll give them 10 minutes to "decrypt" my explorer.exe file with the extension changed to
Criminals have more rights than straight ppl here now on the protecting your family front , you cant touch them if they break in your home, they can sue you for assault
You can act in defence of your person, or the defence of a person unable to defend themselves (a child / the frail), but not to defend property. Your property should be insured, and your loss negligible.
I'll be honest, if someone breaks into my house, my words to him will be, in as calm a voice as I can muster "My property is insured. As long as you're only here for property, I'll keep out of your way." Not only may that reduce the chance of myself being attacked, but also prevent excessive damage being caused to my home. I can only hope, anyway.
Exactly, and the government want to drastically reduce the amount of money they make by making them inspect, analyse, log, and archive every single identifying byte of information which comes over their pipes, voice or data. As long as someone is communicating with someone else, they want it logged. You don't think that will seriously infringe on the CEO's Bentley fund?
Again, you've missed the point. The government can't afford to not have internet (and telephone) service, even for a day. The country cannot afford it. Any government which stops LSE trading for an hour will be met with investment bankers and stock brokers outside Parliament with brick and chain, and a chant of "referendum, referendunm, referendum"
If they could all agree to mount piledrivers over the UK - Mainland Europe fibre backbones, this idea would fall flat on its face in seconds. Too bad nobody has the balls to actually try it.
Illegal collusion? You're missing the point. How do the Gov. enforce a penalty for that, even? What length would the government go to? I have the feeling that a further day would have them backing down; That's two days of the LSE not trading.
It's really not hard to imagine.
What would happen if all of the major UK ISPs sued, or outright refused to implement this monitoring system? Would they be fined? Would the Gov. be able to get them to pay?
Would cutting the UK off from the rest of the world for a day (in protest) be an effective demonstration of how costly this would be?
The only people you'll catch with this are folks who have been baited, or don't know what's going on. Ever clicked on a TinyURL link and been presented with one of the "Unholy Trinity"? Well, all it takes is one prick to make it a link to a CP thread on 4Chan and *BAM* jail. Been sent an email from someone you don't recognise and Outlook auto previews an image in the same vein? *BAM* jail.
Pretty soon, I'll be ensuring that anyone I chat to either uses some kind of end-to-end encryption, or I'll just pipe anything apart from iPlayer and WoW through a VPN out of the country. At least that way, if I ever am conned into viewing something HM Gov says I shouldn't, I won't end up on a register for it.
I'm not talking about how you dress when you're doing your job, I'm talking about how you dress when you're meeting the people who decide whether you are expendable or not.
I don't wear a tie either, but I do wear pressed trousers, shirt, and polished shoes. Just like you. Thanks for agreeing with me.
I think you mean "... and these 5 girls walk past..."
Well you certainly don't want the beam pointing towards your head when you are wearing it...
I understand that I'm on a contested connection, and quite a way from my local exchange. I don't expect 8Mb 24/7, and I'm happy when I get it. I've had 1.2MB/s (yeah, big B) at around 10pm, but that was a freak occurrence. All in all, 4Mb/s is enough for watching TV on demand, playing WoW, downloading updates etc. I can manually throttle traffic at the router if I run multiple apps at once, but that's rarely the case.
I don't even see it as lowering my expectations; I see it as being realistic. There's a reason for T1 being 1/4 of my connection speed, but costing 20x more.
Wear a tie. Polish your shoes. Make sure the colour of your belt matches your shoe colour, and your socks match. Get a haircut the day before.
Small things, but they make you look professional. I'm not sure if you dress like that every day, maybe you do, but if he glazes over during technical blurb you may find him considering whether you get a bonus based on whether your shirt does or doesn't have a burrito stain on it.
People aren't going to buy it? Where have you been? The O2-only Apple deal went out months ago, and Orange will be carrying it soon. Other providers soon after.
No links, as I can't be bothered and I'm sure you can use Google
As I posted a few days ago, I've realised that much like all manufacturers specs, ISP speeds and numbers are padded and offer performance under optimal conditions.
I look at all ISP promises as I do most specs now; Drop by 50%. Now I realise that I'm paying £30 per month for 4Mb downstream, and I'm quite happy with that. In fact, I'm over the moon when I get 6Mb! It's like I'm getting 50% extra free!
It's a touch kinder and gentler than the days of the (Un)Holy Inquisition where if you drowned you were innocent and if you didn't they'd burn you
Not really. At least when you drown you've only got 5 minutes, and being burned probably about 10. This guy (and anyone else in this situation) has to live with it until he hangs himself in a motel room, overdoses on heroin, drinks bleach, or slits his own wrists.
Surely one look at the log could have told you it was an automated connection. And from talking to a buddy in the state crime lab he says the real CP guys are pretty easy to spot, as they keep tons of the crap lying around on DVDs, flash drives, etc, so a basic search warrant could have shown whether he was a CP perv or not.
How very 2000. I would have thought that in this age of full-disk encryption, or hidden encrypted volumes, that they would have
... dumped who knows what into the system files in encrypted folders...
You can't be so sure.
The entirety of the USA has swine flu!
What, that's not what the map shows?