It is sort of ironic that Nazis are again affecting music, as their regime in Germany did a lot of damage to classical music. Eg Jewish composers fled (Schumann?) and even some of the
existing stuff lost its appeal after it was played while they were exterminating people etc. -- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
I've never used one, but it looks like a more practical solution, even if it's obviously not something that can be used one-handed!
-- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
I hadn't heard this about the collapse of the Roman empire, but I think it's particularly relevant given how popular the fly-on-the-wall aka reality TV shows are lately (Survivors, Castaways, Party!, Backyard Blitz, The Villa, Live Date, ARGH). And web cams where you can watch someone live their life (oh look, she just scratched her left wrist!). I think it's a fairer argument that the media (including the Internet) has changed society to become spectators.. Like anything, computer games can be good or bad; depends on what each is, and how it is played.
Silicon Snakeoil, Asleep at the Wheel, and Neil Postman's books are all pretty interesting, talking mostly objectively about how the Internet is changing/could change society. -- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
The thing that Mr. Petreley doesn't seem to realise, is that it is possible to find out what it is in Windows (not nearly impossible as he claims). True, decompiling Windows binaries is a nuisance. On the other hand, there are a lot of people out there blindly downloading RPMs, gleefully chuckling to themselves how cool they are for outwitting the evil Microsoft. What trustworthy soul do they think has checked the source for them? Linus? Tux?
My favourite part:
Windows seems to run faster than it does natively, although I have no idea how that would be possible
Methinks Microsoft's ex-janitor's drunken ravings at the local bar about RADIUS, telnet servers and VPNs being stolen from Linux aren't quite the big story Nick thought. -- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Geez.. Or in IT terms, don't set up a proper mail server for your LAN, just UUCP poll for a few megs of text a couple of times a day, then use a DOS-based text editor to cut and paste the individual messages into the LAN-based mail system (splitting and rejoining the file if its too big to fit in memory), or since people don't use it, print the messages and walk over to the person's desk to deliver it to them, or fax it if they were interstate.
All my attempts to solve that or even convince them it was a problem were thwarted, and I was also laughed at when I suggested the best way to get our company on the Internet was to setup a Web server on our own Linux box not NT. They then hired an expensive consultant who told them to use Linux, and they marvelled at his wisdom. They then decided it sounded too complicated to do themselves and outside of the capabilities of their staff.
That was the beginning of my IT career, in '95 at a software development company. They were one of the better/smarter IT companies I've worked for. -- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
It depends if the company are offering free drinks (or pinball tables at Reception) *as well as* a decent and interesting place to work, or if they're just doing it to impress a couple of reporters and a few wide-eyed new recruits.
I'm guessing most of these posts are from peoples in the US; sounds like a good place to work. In Australia you get reprimanded for working late or trying to learn things outside what position you've been slotted into! -- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
>Considering Australia is 90% desert, I don't
>think this quite holds true... what's more, we
>don't have miles, we have kilometers(!).
^^^^^^^^^^
Sprung, you're a Yank not an Aussie!
90% desert my arse (yes "arse", not "ass").
-- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Yep it's a dubious claim to fame but that Internet
censorship law was passed. So all the porn sites
etc were shifted to US sites which are cheaper
anyway. Brilliant, the "don't buy Australian"
policy instigated by the Australian Government.
A more recent one was to make netcasting fall
under the same law as TV/radio, but fortunately
that one was quashed. The trouble is that the Govt has interests in competing technologies,
and despite claims by every State that they're
the secret hideout of the world's leading
technology, we're hopelessly behind and anything
good that is done here is done as a battle with
rather than with the support of Govt. No less a
person than Billy G has been known to comment on
the confusing and contradicting laws/stances Australia has regarding Internet:)
Yeah congratulations, Slashdot would like to
welcome all you Mac users who stay up late
worrying coz your PC cables are flat not round.
Bet you all drink Pepsi. -- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
I guess investing in the technology would be another way to make sure it doesn't compete with
their drinking buddies' digital TV networks. -- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
I know of one large Australian company who hired a bunch of Lithuanians (via a US contracting company), and apart from the usual dramas of having 4 different groups of contractors working on the same project and hating each other, they were the ones who were getting things done (as opposed to just producing lots of management-style documentation). I would hazard to say that it was the contracting firm in California that was getting the $$$ though; these Lithuanian guys were living onsite for a while I believe.
I think outsourcing sucks generally. It shows a company has no confidence in its own people, and not wanting them to learn and develop their skills seems a sign of a company that is managed by fascist pricks. Ones who get sucked in by guys in suits charging $500 an hour to tell them things like "the sky is up".
Oh puh-lease. I only wish more American companies would come here. And er yeah.. Telstra's last CEO was American.. This surprises you? Telstra has always been largely US-owned. Sadly they don't seem to make much use of US expertise though. Telstra's problem isn't that it is US owned, it is that it is basically a very lazy, inefficient and backward company, and that Australians are so stupid as to perceive them as being "Australian" and therefore better. We have a telecommunications system that most 3rd world countries can rival. Those of you who think Optus, AAPT, Primus are dodgy and not very good; check your facts, you may be surprised.
It is sort of ironic that Nazis are again affecting music, as their regime in Germany did a lot of damage to classical music. Eg Jewish composers fled (Schumann?) and even some of the existing stuff lost its appeal after it was played while they were exterminating people etc.
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
I've never used one, but it looks like a more practical solution, even if it's obviously not something that can be used one-handed!
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Silicon Snakeoil, Asleep at the Wheel, and Neil Postman's books are all pretty interesting, talking mostly objectively about how the Internet is changing/could change society.
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
The thing that Mr. Petreley doesn't seem to realise, is that it is possible to find out what it is in Windows (not nearly impossible as he claims). True, decompiling Windows binaries is a nuisance. On the other hand, there are a lot of people out there blindly downloading RPMs, gleefully chuckling to themselves how cool they are for outwitting the evil Microsoft. What trustworthy soul do they think has checked the source for them? Linus? Tux?
My favourite part:
A quick bit of homework would've revealed that it's possible because Windows is running under Linux using Linux's shared memory and filesystem rather than it's own.Methinks Microsoft's ex-janitor's drunken ravings at the local bar about RADIUS, telnet servers and VPNs being stolen from Linux aren't quite the big story Nick thought.
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
All my attempts to solve that or even convince them it was a problem were thwarted, and I was also laughed at when I suggested the best way to get our company on the Internet was to setup a Web server on our own Linux box not NT. They then hired an expensive consultant who told them to use Linux, and they marvelled at his wisdom. They then decided it sounded too complicated to do themselves and outside of the capabilities of their staff.
That was the beginning of my IT career, in '95 at a software development company. They were one of the better/smarter IT companies I've worked for.
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
It depends if the company are offering free drinks (or pinball tables at Reception) *as well as* a decent and interesting place to work, or if they're just doing it to impress a couple of reporters and a few wide-eyed new recruits. I'm guessing most of these posts are from peoples in the US; sounds like a good place to work. In Australia you get reprimanded for working late or trying to learn things outside what position you've been slotted into!
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Okay I'll bite.. how *DO* I recompile my Windows 98 kernel? :-)
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
>Considering Australia is 90% desert, I don't >think this quite holds true... what's more, we >don't have miles, we have kilometers(!). ^^^^^^^^^^ Sprung, you're a Yank not an Aussie! 90% desert my arse (yes "arse", not "ass").
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Yep it's a dubious claim to fame but that Internet censorship law was passed. So all the porn sites etc were shifted to US sites which are cheaper anyway. Brilliant, the "don't buy Australian" policy instigated by the Australian Government. A more recent one was to make netcasting fall under the same law as TV/radio, but fortunately that one was quashed. The trouble is that the Govt has interests in competing technologies, and despite claims by every State that they're the secret hideout of the world's leading technology, we're hopelessly behind and anything good that is done here is done as a battle with rather than with the support of Govt. No less a person than Billy G has been known to comment on the confusing and contradicting laws/stances Australia has regarding Internet :)
Yeah congratulations, Slashdot would like to welcome all you Mac users who stay up late worrying coz your PC cables are flat not round. Bet you all drink Pepsi.
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
I guess investing in the technology would be another way to make sure it doesn't compete with their drinking buddies' digital TV networks.
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
I know of one large Australian company who hired a bunch of Lithuanians (via a US contracting company), and apart from the usual dramas of having 4 different groups of contractors working on the same project and hating each other, they were the ones who were getting things done (as opposed to just producing lots of management-style documentation). I would hazard to say that it was the contracting firm in California that was getting the $$$ though; these Lithuanian guys were living onsite for a while I believe. I think outsourcing sucks generally. It shows a company has no confidence in its own people, and not wanting them to learn and develop their skills seems a sign of a company that is managed by fascist pricks. Ones who get sucked in by guys in suits charging $500 an hour to tell them things like "the sky is up".
Oh puh-lease. I only wish more American companies would come here. And er yeah.. Telstra's last CEO was American.. This surprises you? Telstra has always been largely US-owned. Sadly they don't seem to make much use of US expertise though. Telstra's problem isn't that it is US owned, it is that it is basically a very lazy, inefficient and backward company, and that Australians are so stupid as to perceive them as being "Australian" and therefore better. We have a telecommunications system that most 3rd world countries can rival. Those of you who think Optus, AAPT, Primus are dodgy and not very good; check your facts, you may be surprised.