From what it looks like the reason why H1B company can afford to pay lower wages and not have personnel leave in a couple of months after they learned which paper posts job ads - is because of the H1B setup that binds the worker to the workplace. In the absence of such setup the companies paying below market wages would experience a constant and expensive personnel churn, when the new workers leave as soon as they accomodate to the country, workplace procedures, cultural/language environment, etc. and find out how to shop for better job - i.e. at the same time as they become most productive. So now, to solve this problem one would logically advocate abandoning this binding and allowing unrestricted mobility of the workers within the workforce. But the people that use lower H1B wages as an argument almost always advocate exactly the opposite - more and stricter limits!
>> Quit using the government to skew the market in your favor.
Does this include using the government to artificially limit labor force supply by excluding qualified applicants having non-US citizenship?
Banding together is fine. Denying others right to work because they don't want to band with you - or forcing them to pay you protection money whether they want to band with you or not - is not fine. The latter is exactly the problem with most unions.
It's even simpler than that. 1st Amendment protects you from prosecution by the government for the fact and the content of your speech. It does not imply that you speech will have no consequences at all, including legal ones. If you damaged somebody by your speech - or intended to damage - you still can be prosecuted and sued. If, for example, you wrote a program and used it to steal money from the bank - you can not avoid prosecution claiming programming is like speech so it's protected by 1st amendment. It may be like speech, but stealing money isn't. In the same vein, saying "I own Facebook" is protected speech. Undertaking fraudulent legal actions with intent to steal Facebook's money under false premises of owning Facebook is not protected at all. Ceglia is getting a lesson about it right now.
In Judaism, it's also about choice. God told Adam what to do - so basically Adam had to rely on God in his knowledge of right and wrong, like a child that relies on his parents to tell him how to behave. Adam instead decided to find out by himself what is right and wrong. So God basically told him - ok, you want it - go and find out by yourself. One can say Adam has been doing that ever since.
This is total bullshit. Amazon employees enjoying some benefits in some other state has nothing to do with me having to pay sales tax in California. I do not have a moral duty to ensure California gets as much tax revenue as possible from me. And if California businesses feel disadvantaged by the huge taxes - they should either complain to the California legislature or enjoy the fruits of the out service California government provides them for this money. Either way this has nothing to do with "fairness" or my private transactions with Amazon.
PERM ads are for *Green card*, not H1-B's. Which means the applicant *would not* be limited to one employer after he gets it, and so if HP or anybody else would really want cheap hitech slave labor, it would make zero sense for them to do it. The reason they do it is because they need more people than US-only market can provide them, and they are ready to go through considerable expense that PERM/GC process involves because they have no other way to get enough people that they need. They would not be cheaper or in any way linked to the employer once they have the GC - the only way to keep them would be to pay them the same as US citizens. And since hiring them involves additional expense there's absolutely no monetary or otherwise reason to prefer them to qualified US citizens - if those were available. The reason why they do it is very simple - they already have a person that they know fits the job and they want to keep her on the job. The government, however, doesn't let them to do just that - they require to post fake job ads, even though there's no real intent to hire - because nobody wants to replace known trained good worker with unknown newbie. This farce is a direct consequence of government meddling, as most bureaucratic farces in US are.
It is sad that the post which gets basic facts wrong gets moderated as "Insightful"...
It's never about piracy or drugs or security or health or children or anything like that. It's always about control over your life. And they are getting more of it every day.
Yes, exactly, If you go around saying judaism is fake, absolutely nothing is going to happen to you. Well, some people may be pissed off, but that's it. Nobody is going to arrest you, send Mossad after you, have black helicopters take you to secret prison. Some people may yell at you, that's about it. Yes, I am Israeli and lived in Israel for 13 years, and I know what I am talking about. Looks like you do not.
About CarMax not having fixed vacation - I think it's super-clever from their side. I know that I constantly accumulate more vacation time than I take and I have hit the company cap sometimes and took time off just not to lose it - and if I leave they have to pay me all the vacation time I have accumulated. However if they don't have a fixed vacation - nothing of it applies, they can just rely on tech people being workaholics (which happens quite often) and not take too much vacation (if one does, you can always fire him...) - but they don't pay any additional money for unused vacation time! This is pure genius.
I've seen some mindblowing graphics produced with photoshop.... I have yet to see anything comprable with the GIMP.
You know what? I have seen some mindblowing graphics done in image editor coming with Windows 3.11. Moreover, I have seen some mindblowing graphics produced without any help of Photoshop or computer at all. Actually, some of it is hanging on my walls right now.
Saying "tool X sucks because I have seen better graphics made with tool Y" is basically saying "guitar sucks because my brother plays good on violin". That's plain stupid argument.
When the GIMP (or comprable app) can use the photshop 5 keyboard shortcuts
Well, here is another stupid argument coming. Judging professional application by keyboard shortcut compatibility with other application. Is it trained monkey who is going to use it? So that once imprinted with some basic keyboard accords it cannot do anything else effectively? Oh my...
What I cannot understand is - why exactly they need it? Are there any Web standards incoming so complex that they need someone who will charge a fee for it and there's can be no open alternative possible? I know that almost for every proprietary standard known well enough there's an open alternative, often superior to its proprietary match. So why exactly W3C needs restricted standards? Just because someone paid for it? If so, the things are very sad indeed.
I didn't have any idea of Lego's existance until about 20, and I still survived and even have reasonable mental abilities, can tie my shoelaces, program my Perl and even was able to make my B.Sc. So I guess even Lego-challenged people can find their way in this sad world.
That's a pity they do not have a trial version of this. Yeah, I understand the trial makes it easier to steal, blah blah blah. But making even functionally-limited trial version would allow me to see if it works for my system before I shell out the money.
The problem is not 1.0, but being usable. RH is understandably vary of the browser "underdevelopment" - it, unlike Mozilla, can not say their paying customers: "OK, it would work when we are ready do make it work". It should deliver the product now. And Mozilla, while being useful browser, still has a number of problems, among which performance and memory footprint is not the least. When RH says: "when it will be 1.0" they most probably mean: "since you are good respectable guys and would not call it 1.0 until is is really good, we want to pick it up there when it's really ready for us". From this POV 1.0 is important for Mozilla team more than for RH and RH is just trusing Mozilla team to do a good 1.0.
Very simple. They would not. You will be the one to prove you did nothing wrong. As it was shown in the DMCA case, current society is OK with passing a law that allows to prosecute a person because Copyright Mafia wants so. And there are real stories of people with their internet access terminated because RIAA sent the ISP a letter that stated that their IP was noted in trafficking "illegal" content. No questions asked, no person contacted, just immediate access cutoff. If you want to have your internet access alive, you would be the one to sweat and get all the proofs that your content is legal. Internet is a nice place, full of freedom and new possibilities, isn't it?
Alternatively, you can just terminate your relationship with that ISP. If there is any other ISPs that are yet sane, of course. And if they won't be sued out of existance by the RIAA.
Who it was that bragged about 'internet freedoms' and 'new reality' and stuff? Here it goes - every step you take is watched. You have absolutely no rights. Your access can be terminated any second without explaining a reason or giving you any chance to explain. All burden to prove your innocense is on you. Nobody has any obligation to even listen to you.
Does no sound like too much of freedom, does it? Does sound as a 'new reality', though. Free people of America, get used to it. It will get worse - how many times would it take for ISP to make 'access history' and share the data? One complaint from MPAA - and you lose your broadband for life. Sounds good?
My net connection when down too, and I don't run around demanding $5 back.
Very bad that you do not. If you did, and everybode around did the same, probably the current sore state of the security would improve, some knowledgeable sysadmins would be hired and some holes would be plugged.
As long as the users agree to get crappy service, crappy software and crappy security for their money, they will get crap. The only way to not get crap is to refuse to tolerate that anymore. So if somebody sues their ISP that neglected to provide them the required service and to maintain secuirty, it's a very good thing. If people are promised 24x7 connection and support and then when the problem comes they are said "well, it doesn't work, just wait and maybe it will be fixed in a day or two or more" - they have the right to demand compensation.
What Tim O'Reilly has to do with this? Did he ever call Stallman or anyone else by some bad words or what? From what I have read from O'Reilly his style always was moderate and respectful.
Stallman is pushing a political and ethical agenda.
Exactly. But my agenda is not Stallman's one. So why should I help him in pushing his agenda? Those who want to help him to push it - let them name it GNU/Linux, GNUx or even "GNU OS written by some Finnish guy whose name is of no importance". He's a free adult and can name anything by any words he wants. But I will name it by my words.
For me, the part of operating system is what allows me to operate the computer. For me as a plain dumb user, Red Hat Linux 6.x is an operating system, while linux kernel+libc isn't yet. Just like Windows command-line shell isn't Windows operating system - even if you can move files around and run programs with it.
Also, did you ever wonder why people that make huge contributions to the Linux kernel, like Alan Cox, for example, do not make demands to rename the system to Co/Linux or something like that? Maybe because they have enough of self-realisation in their tribute, while some people at GNU are so jealous on success of Linux versus their own Hurd project that they want everybody to publically bow to them. And this is the same people who talk about freedoms and contiribution for the sake of the community. True community spirit it is.
You mix that with nationalism or soviet bolshevism. The fascism is a totalitarian concept which says that the need of the society prevails on individual needs, and as such one can be coerced, jailed, deprived of property or life at will, if it benefits the society (or if the rulers of the society see the benefit in it).
Socialism is more economical concept of state property and state-controlled economics. It does not deal too much with individual rights and freedoms, though they are of course influenced by the economic model. For example, it is possible to have democratic socialist state or fascist socialist state.
I believe it is more important for everyone to have freedom, even if it does reduce individual freedom.
There can not be any freedom but individual one. Read a history of any totalitarian state and see that they all asked people to sacrifice individual freedom for public good and at the end people got no public good and the worst coercion possible.
Maybe RMS is talking about relaxation and stuff, but he is acting differently. If I try to use any bit of GNU code in the project that has license not seen as fit by RMS (like BSD license, for example) - he will crush on me with all power given to him by the evil law and government, and he will gladly use all the evil power of copyright to it's least bit to prohibit me from using this code. That's looks dangerously close to 'war for peace' and 'lying for truth'.
And mind that - the usage of that code in the non-GPL project won't devoid any user of any freedoms to use the code - it will be still available for anybody. But what RMS wants is to coerce me into going along his rules, using all those arguments that you just proved are evil and immoral. What does this makes about the whole concept?
There are a lot of people and groups that contributed to free software and Linux. Some of them contribute very vital parts of it. But only GNU claims to add their title in the OS name. Can't it be due to the frustration from unability to bring their own OS project to some decent result?
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From what it looks like the reason why H1B company can afford to pay lower wages and not have personnel leave in a couple of months after they learned which paper posts job ads - is because of the H1B setup that binds the worker to the workplace. In the absence of such setup the companies paying below market wages would experience a constant and expensive personnel churn, when the new workers leave as soon as they accomodate to the country, workplace procedures, cultural/language environment, etc. and find out how to shop for better job - i.e. at the same time as they become most productive. So now, to solve this problem one would logically advocate abandoning this binding and allowing unrestricted mobility of the workers within the workforce. But the people that use lower H1B wages as an argument almost always advocate exactly the opposite - more and stricter limits! >> Quit using the government to skew the market in your favor. Does this include using the government to artificially limit labor force supply by excluding qualified applicants having non-US citizenship?
Banding together is fine. Denying others right to work because they don't want to band with you - or forcing them to pay you protection money whether they want to band with you or not - is not fine. The latter is exactly the problem with most unions.
It's even simpler than that. 1st Amendment protects you from prosecution by the government for the fact and the content of your speech. It does not imply that you speech will have no consequences at all, including legal ones. If you damaged somebody by your speech - or intended to damage - you still can be prosecuted and sued. If, for example, you wrote a program and used it to steal money from the bank - you can not avoid prosecution claiming programming is like speech so it's protected by 1st amendment. It may be like speech, but stealing money isn't. In the same vein, saying "I own Facebook" is protected speech. Undertaking fraudulent legal actions with intent to steal Facebook's money under false premises of owning Facebook is not protected at all. Ceglia is getting a lesson about it right now.
In Judaism, it's also about choice. God told Adam what to do - so basically Adam had to rely on God in his knowledge of right and wrong, like a child that relies on his parents to tell him how to behave. Adam instead decided to find out by himself what is right and wrong. So God basically told him - ok, you want it - go and find out by yourself. One can say Adam has been doing that ever since.
False. Look for example at the comparison between private and federal government compensation. Both raise, but the raise of government compensation is much quicker. CPI was 174 in 2000, 210 in 2008.
This is total bullshit. Amazon employees enjoying some benefits in some other state has nothing to do with me having to pay sales tax in California. I do not have a moral duty to ensure California gets as much tax revenue as possible from me. And if California businesses feel disadvantaged by the huge taxes - they should either complain to the California legislature or enjoy the fruits of the out service California government provides them for this money. Either way this has nothing to do with "fairness" or my private transactions with Amazon.
PERM ads are for *Green card*, not H1-B's. Which means the applicant *would not* be limited to one employer after he gets it, and so if HP or anybody else would really want cheap hitech slave labor, it would make zero sense for them to do it. The reason they do it is because they need more people than US-only market can provide them, and they are ready to go through considerable expense that PERM/GC process involves because they have no other way to get enough people that they need. They would not be cheaper or in any way linked to the employer once they have the GC - the only way to keep them would be to pay them the same as US citizens. And since hiring them involves additional expense there's absolutely no monetary or otherwise reason to prefer them to qualified US citizens - if those were available.
The reason why they do it is very simple - they already have a person that they know fits the job and they want to keep her on the job. The government, however, doesn't let them to do just that - they require to post fake job ads, even though there's no real intent to hire - because nobody wants to replace known trained good worker with unknown newbie. This farce is a direct consequence of government meddling, as most bureaucratic farces in US are.
It is sad that the post which gets basic facts wrong gets moderated as "Insightful"...
It's never about piracy or drugs or security or health or children or anything like that. It's always about control over your life. And they are getting more of it every day.
Yes, exactly, If you go around saying judaism is fake, absolutely nothing is going to happen to you. Well, some people may be pissed off, but that's it. Nobody is going to arrest you, send Mossad after you, have black helicopters take you to secret prison. Some people may yell at you, that's about it.
Yes, I am Israeli and lived in Israel for 13 years, and I know what I am talking about. Looks like you do not.
About CarMax not having fixed vacation - I think it's super-clever from their side. I know that I constantly accumulate more vacation time than I take and I have hit the company cap sometimes and took time off just not to lose it - and if I leave they have to pay me all the vacation time I have accumulated. However if they don't have a fixed vacation - nothing of it applies, they can just rely on tech people being workaholics (which happens quite often) and not take too much vacation (if one does, you can always fire him...) - but they don't pay any additional money for unused vacation time! This is pure genius.
I've seen some mindblowing graphics produced with photoshop.... I have yet to see anything comprable with the GIMP.
You know what? I have seen some mindblowing graphics done in image editor coming with Windows 3.11. Moreover, I have seen some mindblowing graphics produced without any help of Photoshop or computer at all. Actually, some of it is hanging on my walls right now.
Saying "tool X sucks because I have seen better graphics made with tool Y" is basically saying "guitar sucks because my brother plays good on violin". That's plain stupid argument.
When the GIMP (or comprable app) can use the photshop 5 keyboard shortcuts
Well, here is another stupid argument coming. Judging professional application by keyboard shortcut compatibility with other application. Is it trained monkey who is going to use it? So that once imprinted with some basic keyboard accords it cannot do anything else effectively? Oh my...
What I cannot understand is - why exactly they need it? Are there any Web standards incoming so complex that they need someone who will charge a fee for it and there's can be no open alternative possible? I know that almost for every proprietary standard known well enough there's an open alternative, often superior to its proprietary match. So why exactly W3C needs restricted standards? Just because someone paid for it? If so, the things are very sad indeed.
I didn't have any idea of Lego's existance until about 20, and I still survived and even have reasonable mental abilities, can tie my shoelaces, program my Perl and even was able to make my B.Sc. So I guess even Lego-challenged people can find their way in this sad world.
That's a pity they do not have a trial version of this. Yeah, I understand the trial makes it easier to steal, blah blah blah. But making even functionally-limited trial version would allow me to see if it works for my system before I shell out the money.
The problem is not 1.0, but being usable. RH is understandably vary of the browser "underdevelopment" - it, unlike Mozilla, can not say their paying customers: "OK, it would work when we are ready do make it work". It should deliver the product now. And Mozilla, while being useful browser, still has a number of problems, among which performance and memory footprint is not the least. When RH says: "when it will be 1.0" they most probably mean: "since you are good respectable guys and would not call it 1.0 until is is really good, we want to pick it up there when it's really ready for us". From this POV 1.0 is important for Mozilla team more than for RH and RH is just trusing Mozilla team to do a good 1.0.
Very simple. They would not. You will be the one to prove you did nothing wrong. As it was shown in the DMCA case, current society is OK with passing a law that allows to prosecute a person because Copyright Mafia wants so. And there are real stories of people with their internet access terminated because RIAA sent the ISP a letter that stated that their IP was noted in trafficking "illegal" content. No questions asked, no person contacted, just immediate access cutoff. If you want to have your internet access alive, you would be the one to sweat and get all the proofs that your content is legal. Internet is a nice place, full of freedom and new possibilities, isn't it?
Alternatively, you can just terminate your relationship with that ISP. If there is any other ISPs that are yet sane, of course. And if they won't be sued out of existance by the RIAA.
Who it was that bragged about 'internet freedoms' and 'new reality' and stuff? Here it goes - every step you take is watched. You have absolutely no rights. Your access can be terminated any second without explaining a reason or giving you any chance to explain. All burden to prove your innocense is on you. Nobody has any obligation to even listen to you.
Does no sound like too much of freedom, does it? Does sound as a 'new reality', though. Free people of America, get used to it. It will get worse - how many times would it take for ISP to make 'access history' and share the data? One complaint from MPAA - and you lose your broadband for life. Sounds good?
My net connection when down too, and I don't run around demanding $5 back.
Very bad that you do not. If you did, and everybode around did the same, probably the current sore state of the security would improve, some knowledgeable sysadmins would be hired and some holes would be plugged.
As long as the users agree to get crappy service, crappy software and crappy security for their money, they will get crap. The only way to not get crap is to refuse to tolerate that anymore. So if somebody sues their ISP that neglected to provide them the required service and to maintain secuirty, it's a very good thing. If people are promised 24x7 connection and support and then when the problem comes they are said "well, it doesn't work, just wait and maybe it will be fixed in a day or two or more" - they have the right to demand compensation.
What Tim O'Reilly has to do with this? Did he ever call Stallman or anyone else by some bad words or what? From what I have read from O'Reilly his style always was moderate and respectful.
Stallman is pushing a political and ethical agenda.
Exactly. But my agenda is not Stallman's one. So why should I help him in pushing his agenda? Those who want to help him to push it - let them name it GNU/Linux, GNUx or even "GNU OS written by some Finnish guy whose name is of no importance". He's a free adult and can name anything by any words he wants. But I will name it by my words.
For me, the part of operating system is what allows me to operate the computer. For me as a plain dumb user, Red Hat Linux 6.x is an operating system, while linux kernel+libc isn't yet. Just like Windows command-line shell isn't Windows operating system - even if you can move files around and run programs with it.
Also, did you ever wonder why people that make huge contributions to the Linux kernel, like Alan Cox, for example, do not make demands to rename the system to Co/Linux or something like that? Maybe because they have enough of self-realisation in their tribute, while some people at GNU are so jealous on success of Linux versus their own Hurd project that they want everybody to publically bow to them. And this is the same people who talk about freedoms and contiribution for the sake of the community. True community spirit it is.
You mix that with nationalism or soviet bolshevism. The fascism is a totalitarian concept which says that the need of the society prevails on individual needs, and as such one can be coerced, jailed, deprived of property or life at will, if it benefits the society (or if the rulers of the society see the benefit in it).
Socialism is more economical concept of state property and state-controlled economics. It does not deal too much with individual rights and freedoms, though they are of course influenced by the economic model. For example, it is possible to have democratic socialist state or fascist socialist state.
I believe it is more important for everyone to have freedom, even if it does reduce individual freedom.
There can not be any freedom but individual one. Read a history of any totalitarian state and see that they all asked people to sacrifice individual freedom for public good and at the end people got no public good and the worst coercion possible.
Maybe RMS is talking about relaxation and stuff, but he is acting differently. If I try to use any bit of GNU code in the project that has license not seen as fit by RMS (like BSD license, for example) - he will crush on me with all power given to him by the evil law and government, and he will gladly use all the evil power of copyright to it's least bit to prohibit me from using this code. That's looks dangerously close to 'war for peace' and 'lying for truth'.
And mind that - the usage of that code in the non-GPL project won't devoid any user of any freedoms to use the code - it will be still available for anybody. But what RMS wants is to coerce me into going along his rules, using all those arguments that you just proved are evil and immoral. What does this makes about the whole concept?
There are a lot of people and groups that contributed to free software and Linux. Some of them contribute very vital parts of it. But only GNU claims to add their title in the OS name. Can't it be due to the frustration from unability to bring their own OS project to some decent result?