This is a good thing for Linux, because many users just couldn't care less about product being FSF-free. They care about how it works first (functionality), then about how much it costs. And that's it - if they are OK with those two, they buy it.
From the other point, it's also good for free software (FSF-free) movement, because they'll get rid of accusations in "hurting usability and user's choice in favor of some strange ideas". Nobody prohibits one to develop free (FSF and beer senses) software in commercial world - there's a lot of beer-free and almost-free software on Windows, for example. Just ones that would better pay for commercial now than wait for free software to be there - will get what they want. And since commercial software still wins in terms of rapid-development, it's good to have both - good for Linux, good for free software, good for commercial software.
The only catch here is some companies thinking that stamping "linux" on their producs will automatically get them big bucks. They'll eventually fail if they don't have good product indeed, and their falure can create image of "Linux market is no good". One must realize that working on developing market requires a lot of... uhm, a lot of work, actually.
That's wierd how those people always do everything bass-ackwards. They refuse to let user really switch off all this scripting and running attachments *with one simple click* (like, one clicks "maximum security" and gets no scripting and no double-click running, just saving), but they strip attachments completely instead! So you can or just disallow people sending everything ending in "bad words" to you forever (FTP! FTP!) or stay as open as you were for viruses and this time Microsoft can't be blamed - they released "security update"!
And what's bad in Photo CD Images, why they are there? Are they exacutable too? And what's bad in security certificates?
And the real problem is that Stallman can't now call for boycott of "for Dummies" books, because no person worth calling to would read, let alone buy, book with such a title anyway.
And anyway, there's a new trend of "Complete Idiot's guide to...". The next ones should be "Hydrocephal's Encyclopedy", "Dumbass Guide" and "Imbecile MSCE preparation course"... I love such a desire for truth from those people, even if they let it go only in a bookstore.
Avoid those seductive solutions that encourage embedding code in HTML. This includes PHP, EmbPerl, ASP, and others (Zope?). Actually, PHP never "encouraged" embedding code in HTML. It just enables it. You can do it and you can avoid it. For the latter approach use "templates" mechanism, which, for example, is a part of PHPLIB, though I don't like their implementation too much. Seems to be analogous to HTML::Templates from the standpoint of functionality.
Remeber, PHP is a tool, tool can't determine it's use. It is the programmer who tells the tool how to work.
Most Open Source Advocates have never produced any art or IP contributions This alone is more than enough to identify the poster as a plain old flame-generator. No point in discussion with people ignoring facts and just sticking labels.
And maybe they just paid for this music? Or maybe they wanted to hear the music *before* they buy it - not after? Or maybe they don't have this record in their local store? Seems that you just accused about 335000 people in a crime without any evidence, just because some greedy pop-idols want to pick on them (obviously, they got bored of other dull things like writing songs and performing - suing seems sooo much more fun for them!)
I'd do the same if this topic had a sign "Windows only". Then I'd turn it off as I did for Amiga stuff, etc. But presently I can't - I want to hear about Linux and all-platform games, but not about Windows-only games, or at least I want Windows-only games to bear bold "Windows only" sign (and Linux-only games to bear Linux-only sign, that's OK).
Hear, hear! When I saw this headline, I thought: "Bah! They've got a Linux port of Diablo and are testing it! I want it! Or otherwise, why it is on/.?/. isn't Gamer's Daily, is it?". Then I read it and... Duh. I'm out. We're out. All Linux users are out. OK, it's hard to port Diablo to Linux, it's not worth to port Diablo to Linux. I'm not worth having Diablo for Linux because I was a bad boy. Whatever. Why I want to hear about new Diablo then? If I wanted, I'd subscribe to some Gamer's News, which reports all such things instantly and gives much more info, reviews, etc.
I do not want to disable the "Games" topic. But if most of the games topics will be "for whit^H^H^H^HWindows only" that'd be the only choice to save my nerves.
That's what you get for trusting a corporate behemoth like AOL with your pages. As if they would care a nibble about your pages. You've paid your money, now get out, you naked gun pornographer!
Well, I have a hard time to believe they managed actually install w2k on 29% of f100 webservers in 2 monthes that w2k is out. Do not those guys believe in testing, etc.? Do they trust corporate website to be run by 2-month-old platform just from the day it hits the stores? I hardly believe this.
Well, so Tojo Inc. invented dinosaurs, right? Oh well, and these fossils were actually secretly planted over there by workers of Tojo Inc. just to promote the trademark and now archeological museums should pay Tojo, Inc. for it too?
So what? I use Linux as my primary system, but occasionally I still have to use Microsoft or other proprietary software. Unfortunately, Linux has no (yet, I hope) full-size office tools, let alone 100%-compatible with Microsoft ones. Hell, we don't even have working browser with HTML4/CSS support, as of now (Netscape, unfortunately, doesn't qualify as "working" - it's hardly half-working). I know that's hard to do and that's not Linux fault, snd many brilliant people do their best to fix it - but the fact is it isn't here yet. Reality is you have to do unpleasant things in your life, like using Word and Outlook...
1. Manufacturer can always claim that what software is doing is their "intellectual property".
2. This would eliminate any mention of user registration, since this is effectively limiting of access to software based on collection of information.
3. That's the case now, not?
4. That also the case. Moreover, I doubt that any license term that was not known to user before purchase (and when user cannot return product if he doesn't agree) would hold up in court.
5. That's tough to prove. If some Big Software Vendor proclaims that his system is "highly stable", how many crashes a day contradict these terms? Also, most of advertisement terms are buzzwords anyway, try provind in court that partcular software is not "user friendly".
6. This is easyly enforced by not buying "bad" software. You need not any law to do this.
That'd be funny if I hadn't live for a number of years in Hebrew University of Jerusalem dorms, where you had to obtain permission for having basically any electrical device. I don't think they have those rules now, but they did once. Also, they had prohibited electrical heaters - and having the fact that said dorms had absolutely no thermo-isolation except 5cm solid concrete walls, there was real problem to live there at winter. Jerusalem temperatures get below zero (Celsius) at winter, so try and live in non-isolated concrete barrack (with no wind protection either, and that's first floor, mind you) at -1 and strong wind outside. Only solution dorms provided were gas heaters, which smelled like gas station after massive leak and provided you with industrial-strength headache after 5 minutes of being hear you. And if you try and get you normal electiral heater, you risk it to be confiscated and you fined and even removed from dorms. And, mind you, dorm supervisors had right to check you room for prohibited devices when you are out! Just enter and dig your stuff, at their will.
So the guys there, with Ehernet access at dorms, are having top-grade conditions compared to me and my fellows had when studying.
They weren't paying? And who did pay? AFAIK, in most universities students pay for studying? Or in US universities pay to students?
If students paid, why they can't use facilities? Other question is that they should have violated usage rules (same as I'd try to use computer of my TA and peek onto some interesting files:) and could be punished for that. But that's nothing to do with theft!
Well, imagine an agent trying to go to, say, WC and do the usuall stuuf there - with laptop handcuffed to him. It'd be a bit inconvenient, no? Same with eating, buying tickets and many other regular activities...
In fact, I've just seen the M14 Mozilla release, and I see it very promising. It didn't crash so fast as previos releases (though I didn't try it on various "dangerous" sites, only on my regular sites), and rendering is good.
Javascript still acts weirdly, and UI needs improvement, and it's hell slow, but I see many improvements - charset support, dynamic rendering, etc. - over present Netscape. So it can be expected that beta will bing some at least semi-usable browser.
Are you to say that bad coding practices is *good* because it helps develop code faster? Believe me or not, it doesn't. If you code is bad, you'll spend in debugging all the time you've saved on development, and still will get non-working app. So bad code doesn't make anything faster.
Good point here is that big code doesn't mean bad code. Moreover, for every good code there will be a bad code that is smaller and work almost the same. "Almost" is the keyoword here.
As for Delphi4Linux - I'd like to see it. Maybe then I'll take look on it (though I hate pascal anyway, so it won't make me any good:)
In fact, once you've ported basic libraries, porting other things should be rather easy business. At least, if you've built your app in the Right Way (TM), i.e. each module does his thing. Then you should port widgets, I/O and possibly memory management, and the rest should work.
The sad fact is that debugging the above things usually takes 80% of time, so it doesn't help much anyway...
Time loss, profit loss, opportunity loss, personal worktime, administrative worktime, possibly also cost of upgrading system to more secure... Every little bit counts.
In fact, if there were non-military uses of atomic bomb, possession of it should be legal. Maybe still state-controlled (as posession of many other dangerous substances), but legal. Same with other tools. But using any tool to commit a crime is usually (as I heard - IANAL) makes additional charge. This could seem silly - as if one is getting charged twice for the same thing - but there's a logic in it, because with tool one is more effective and dangerous criminal, so one should be punushed harder.
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Oh, now I see why... Seems I could use a little more sleep - starting to be too naive :)
No, this is not a story. I submitted it (and others did too, I suppose) and it got rejected.
This is a good thing for Linux, because many users just couldn't care less about product being FSF-free. They care about how it works first (functionality), then about how much it costs. And that's it - if they are OK with those two, they buy it.
From the other point, it's also good for free software (FSF-free) movement, because they'll get rid of accusations in "hurting usability and user's choice in favor of some strange ideas". Nobody prohibits one to develop free (FSF and beer senses) software in commercial world - there's a lot of beer-free and almost-free software on Windows, for example. Just ones that would better pay for commercial now than wait for free software to be there - will get what they want. And since commercial software still wins in terms of rapid-development, it's good to have both - good for Linux, good for free software, good for commercial software.
The only catch here is some companies thinking that stamping "linux" on their producs will automatically get them big bucks. They'll eventually fail if they don't have good product indeed, and their falure can create image of "Linux market is no good". One must realize that working on developing market requires a lot of... uhm, a lot of work, actually.
That's wierd how those people always do everything bass-ackwards. They refuse to let user really switch off all this scripting and running attachments *with one simple click* (like, one clicks "maximum security" and gets no scripting and no double-click running, just saving), but they strip attachments completely instead! So you can or just disallow people sending everything ending in "bad words" to you forever (FTP! FTP!) or stay as open as you were for viruses and this time Microsoft can't be blamed - they released "security update"!
And what's bad in Photo CD Images, why they are there? Are they exacutable too? And what's bad in security certificates?
And the real problem is that Stallman can't now call for boycott of "for Dummies" books, because no person worth calling to would read, let alone buy, book with such a title anyway.
And anyway, there's a new trend of "Complete Idiot's guide to...". The next ones should be "Hydrocephal's Encyclopedy", "Dumbass Guide" and "Imbecile MSCE preparation course"... I love such a desire for truth from those people, even if they let it go only in a bookstore.
Actually, PHP never "encouraged" embedding code in HTML. It just enables it. You can do it and you can avoid it. For the latter approach use "templates" mechanism, which, for example, is a part of PHPLIB, though I don't like their implementation too much. Seems to be analogous to HTML::Templates from the standpoint of functionality.
Remeber, PHP is a tool, tool can't determine it's use. It is the programmer who tells the tool how to work.
Most Open Source Advocates have never produced any art or IP contributions This alone is more than enough to identify the poster as a plain old flame-generator. No point in discussion with people ignoring facts and just sticking labels.
And maybe they just paid for this music? Or maybe they wanted to hear the music *before* they buy it - not after? Or maybe they don't have this record in their local store? Seems that you just accused about 335000 people in a crime without any evidence, just because some greedy pop-idols want to pick on them (obviously, they got bored of other dull things like writing songs and performing - suing seems sooo much more fun for them!)
I'd do the same if this topic had a sign "Windows only". Then I'd turn it off as I did for Amiga stuff, etc. But presently I can't - I want to hear about Linux and all-platform games, but not about Windows-only games, or at least I want Windows-only games to bear bold "Windows only" sign (and Linux-only games to bear Linux-only sign, that's OK).
Hear, hear! When I saw this headline, I thought: "Bah! They've got a Linux port of Diablo and are testing it! I want it! Or otherwise, why it is on /.? /. isn't Gamer's Daily, is it?". Then I read it and... Duh. I'm out. We're out. All Linux users are out. OK, it's hard to port Diablo to Linux, it's not worth to port Diablo to Linux. I'm not worth having Diablo for Linux because I was a bad boy. Whatever. Why I want to hear about new Diablo then? If I wanted, I'd subscribe to some Gamer's News, which reports all such things instantly and gives much more info, reviews, etc.
I do not want to disable the "Games" topic. But if most of the games topics will be "for whit^H^H^H^HWindows only" that'd be the only choice to save my nerves.
That's what you get for trusting a corporate behemoth like AOL with your pages. As if they would care a nibble about your pages. You've paid your money, now get out, you naked gun pornographer!
BTW, how do you know those are w2k? Microsoft's HTTP responce on www.microsoft.com has no name of OS...
Well, I have a hard time to believe they managed actually install w2k on 29% of f100 webservers in 2 monthes that w2k is out. Do not those guys believe in testing, etc.? Do they trust corporate website to be run by 2-month-old platform just from the day it hits the stores? I hardly believe this.
Well, so Tojo Inc. invented dinosaurs, right? Oh well, and these fossils were actually secretly planted over there by workers of Tojo Inc. just to promote the trademark and now archeological museums should pay Tojo, Inc. for it too?
So what? I use Linux as my primary system, but occasionally I still have to use Microsoft or other proprietary software. Unfortunately, Linux has no (yet, I hope) full-size office tools, let alone 100%-compatible with Microsoft ones. Hell, we don't even have working browser with HTML4/CSS support, as of now (Netscape, unfortunately, doesn't qualify as "working" - it's hardly half-working). I know that's hard to do and that's not Linux fault, snd many brilliant people do their best to fix it - but the fact is it isn't here yet. Reality is you have to do unpleasant things in your life, like using Word and Outlook...
1. Manufacturer can always claim that what software is doing is their "intellectual property".
2. This would eliminate any mention of user registration, since this is effectively limiting of access to software based on collection of information.
3. That's the case now, not?
4. That also the case. Moreover, I doubt that any license term that was not known to user before purchase (and when user cannot return product if he doesn't agree) would hold up in court.
5. That's tough to prove. If some Big Software Vendor proclaims that his system is "highly stable", how many crashes a day contradict these terms? Also, most of advertisement terms are buzzwords anyway, try provind in court that partcular software is not "user friendly".
6. This is easyly enforced by not buying "bad" software. You need not any law to do this.
That'd be funny if I hadn't live for a number of years in Hebrew University of Jerusalem dorms, where you had to obtain permission for having basically any electrical device. I don't think they have those rules now, but they did once. Also, they had prohibited electrical heaters - and having the fact that said dorms had absolutely no thermo-isolation except 5cm solid concrete walls, there was real problem to live there at winter. Jerusalem temperatures get below zero (Celsius) at winter, so try and live in non-isolated concrete barrack (with no wind protection either, and that's first floor, mind you) at -1 and strong wind outside. Only solution dorms provided were gas heaters, which smelled like gas station after massive leak and provided you with industrial-strength headache after 5 minutes of being hear you. And if you try and get you normal electiral heater, you risk it to be confiscated and you fined and even removed from dorms. And, mind you, dorm supervisors had right to check you room for prohibited devices when you are out! Just enter and dig your stuff, at their will.
So the guys there, with Ehernet access at dorms, are having top-grade conditions compared to me and my fellows had when studying.
They weren't paying? And who did pay? AFAIK, in most universities students pay for studying? Or in US universities pay to students?
:) and could be punished for that. But that's nothing to do with theft!
If students paid, why they can't use facilities? Other question is that they should have violated usage rules (same as I'd try to use computer of my TA and peek onto some interesting files
Well, imagine an agent trying to go to, say, WC and do the usuall stuuf there - with laptop handcuffed to him. It'd be a bit inconvenient, no? Same with eating, buying tickets and many other regular activities...
In fact, I've just seen the M14 Mozilla release, and I see it very promising. It didn't crash so fast as previos releases (though I didn't try it on various "dangerous" sites, only on my regular sites), and rendering is good.
Javascript still acts weirdly, and UI needs improvement, and it's hell slow, but I see many improvements - charset support, dynamic rendering, etc. - over present Netscape. So it can be expected that beta will bing some at least semi-usable browser.
Does it mean something that they are all actors or just the poster doesn't know anybody else?
Are you to say that bad coding practices is *good* because it helps develop code faster? Believe me or not, it doesn't. If you code is bad, you'll spend in debugging all the time you've saved on development, and still will get non-working app. So bad code doesn't make anything faster.
:)
Good point here is that big code doesn't mean bad code. Moreover, for every good code there will be a bad code that is smaller and work almost the same. "Almost" is the keyoword here.
As for Delphi4Linux - I'd like to see it. Maybe then I'll take look on it (though I hate pascal anyway, so it won't make me any good
In fact, once you've ported basic libraries, porting other things should be rather easy business. At least, if you've built your app in the Right Way (TM), i.e. each module does his thing. Then you should port widgets, I/O and possibly memory management, and the rest should work.
The sad fact is that debugging the above things usually takes 80% of time, so it doesn't help much anyway...
Time loss, profit loss, opportunity loss, personal worktime, administrative worktime, possibly also cost of upgrading system to more secure... Every little bit counts.
In fact, if there were non-military uses of atomic bomb, possession of it should be legal. Maybe still state-controlled (as posession of many other dangerous substances), but legal. Same with other tools. But using any tool to commit a crime is usually (as I heard - IANAL) makes additional charge. This could seem silly - as if one is getting charged twice for the same thing - but there's a logic in it, because with tool one is more effective and dangerous criminal, so one should be punushed harder.