It's similar to the refounding of japan that kept the emperor: it was reconized that it simply would not be doable without that because there was universal opposition. In this case the thing they had to compromise on was to allow religious law to be part of government justice. Failure to do so would have lead to what happened to the Russians. what you mean the US would pay osama bin laden and a bunch of fundamentalists to fight against the current regime? plane tickets are free, he had to get his money somewhere, and that somewhere was pretty much US citizens pockets!
It's hardly the fault of the United States. Afghanistan is such a backward country Well apart from putting a regime in power just so the Russians didn't get the oil.
assuming the kid gets to spend some time on death row, the US could simply pull out and then pay some group to invade on thier behalf, then invade them, he'd only need about 20 years on death row!
While i love the idea of touchscreens the consensus is that people are just too lazy to use them on anything bigger than a phone, perhaps a UMPC. When i get the time i intend to use some weird compiz stuff + wiimote + hand gestures, but i realize while it will look cool to start with, ill probably go back to WIMP, because it takes a lot less effort.( Once i get board i may keep it alongside normal controls because im the kind of user who has 3 ways to do everything ). I see touchscreens as being in a similar situation, every so often youll press the close button but most of the time you'll be using the mouse, right?.
Touchscreen does have a place but the desktop is not it And the Microsoft surface does seam like a complete waste of money gestures only seam useful for either rare actions (launching programs, etc) or gaming ( using gestures to control your character in games like 2nd life). I can only see touchscreen being useful for phones, artists and writing notes ( e.g lectures standing at the front writing on their tablet and it gets added to the screen ) any other ideas?
well its a long shot but i really think that motion sensitivity is the way smart phones should go. It Greatly amplifies a cameras abilities to take panoramic shots, scan documents, perhaps even allow for 3d images. It would also allow for films taken on phones to compensate for motion that is inevitable when using such a small device. It could also be useful for "advanced users" tweaking their UI, or allow average users to shake the device to go up levels in the interface. And it could be used to view/write documents.
The Article also mentions games, well if the WII is anything to go by then average people really enjoy games that involve physical interaction. Security? If you drop the phone it could protect itself, if the phone is yanked out of your hand it would be able to lock the screen. OR for those of us who want to look cool, imagine unlocking your phone with a secret handshake
I really see it being included as users don't 'need' it but to be a truly revolutionary phone the enhancement a motion sensor would allow endless possibilities.
It could affect mythTV boxes sold as one unit, but as mythTV is software and only America respects software patents, i suspect it will have no effect development. Given that development will continue im sure usage (including American usage) will continue t grow.
all that said mythTV is only good for people that care about looks, id much rather have one of the older solutions that can record multiple channels on a multiplex.
They have very long release cycles, ignored anybody who told them that it wasn't ready to be called 4.0 and told anybody asking where the missing features were to wait until 4.1. To be fair this is what end users have come to expect. Also any new project can either release 0.9 releases or has a userbase that will test thier beta enough ( e.g firefox) but KDE has a large scope but few users are going to switch there DE to a beta. They didnt lie they didnt say it was a finished DE.
KDE tried to do too much in one go. I remember when KDE 4 was supposed to be a short release cycle that was nothing but a straight port to Qt 4. It makes alot more sense to have the 4.0 release contain all the major changes instead of doing: 4.0 to port, 4.1, 4.2 to stabilize, 4.3 major rework, 4.4 -4.6 to stabilize For end user products it makes more sense to have a change, and stabilize model (what kde have done) than a constant change model (kernel), so given that big changes are a must its best to fit them into this model instead of wedge them in to produce a never finishing product.
I like the way virtual resolution is implemented. Take it you've never set your DEs resolution to greater than your Xorgs? The behavior shown is pretty standard, all they've done is separated screen movement from mouse movement. I appreciate that you have to try out new ideas, but somebody should have told this guy that splitting the keyboard in 2 isn't a good idea. I also don't like the idea mouse buttons used by a separate hand, the main advantage to using a touchpad for me is 1/2/3 finger tapping.
There is a good goal behind this teribale product, if you want to make a UPMC smaller you have to get rid of the touchpad. touchsreen? people say its tiering, im not sure that this is true on a UPMC tho? its only going to be 10" at most. nipple? whatever happened to them? they weren't too useful on laptops but that's only because touchpads were better. what about a more standard keyboard using touchpad technology? If you get rid of the stuff that sucks in this product, separator bar, flat keyboard, 1 big button. o wait that's my idea to make millions, does Slashdot count as prior art? Do you need to work out the technical details or can you just patent ideas?
The article way of increasing the screen space is useful though, i wonder if the EEE can be hacked to give a similar effect with the touchpad + modifier key?
but also the fact that KDE is THE desktop environment for Linux newbies. While i am a linux newbie, is this really true? i switched because i found that gnome limited me too much (although this was before i was confident with the CLI) and xfce was well ugly ( having tested it recently i realise that this isnt true but i still think that kde looks nice *disclaimer* for me *disclaimer* )
also i recently suggested kde over gnome to a newer newbie and he felt that gnome was better, i think its not a question of newness but taste. ( although stupidly i said that xfce probably wasn't worth trying, should have encouraged him to try everything like i did)
I have tried a few light DE/WM and found that fluxbox was nice but i never spent the time to set it up, maybe id like it more if i was a 'pro' and had set it quickly?
The article agrees, he believed that it should have been called a point-oh-oh release. But your completely wrong claiming they are redefining the meaning of a point oh release, the practice of releasing early and releasing often, is completely normal. They've got a development cycle quite similar to that of the kernel, only because kde is an end user "feature" they have to compromise with the distros and have a more ridged release cycle. I do however encourage you to go the the LKML and convince Linus that they should really wait longer between release and that 0 bugs/regressions should be the target of any release!
OR instead of arguing about the usefullnes of release often, and release early look what happens when you dont, Vista, the beryl split, etc.
Ive tried KDE4.0 on a low end system and it ran fine, it did have some stuff crash but it was a beta. Unfortunately the style of the system wasn't to my liking, im quite disappointed by plasma as i feal that kicker was fine ( i say fine it does have a to fast timer and a few other bugs but aesthetically its where I FEAL it should be), but i supose that sort of thinking is what leads to people insisting CLI/CDE/other old system, is far better than the modern alternative. I supose that apart from bug fixes they're wasnt much left to be done on the 3.x branch?
The article suggests that 4.0 was a framework release that allows bugs to be fix in the core, and programs to be fixed ontop of it and to that end it was a definite success.
Keeping in mind his comments on KDE vs Gnome, i do wonder what the gnome development process is like?
Probably not good as a primary mechanism, but as an option or something with a little infuence it would be quite useful.
I know google has a whole host of algorithms merged to give its results, i can see this being useful as a lower level one, unfortunately i can never see this being CPU efficient, it means that instead of reading a database it has to personally search your web every time you search. I Would like to see it as an extra option tho!
Wouldnt simply downloading a music analyzing program ( something like a renormalizer that gives you the noise level on a track ) and claiming you were collecting music, to perform a study on noise levels used by different artists, or something, count as scientific use!
further questions could be answered by saying you didnt want a formal plan so you didnt introduce a known bias into the music database you were compiling.
Hell you could even form a group and do it for real!
you mean the status bar? i think safari style fission would do well. i know nothing about UI design but i recon you can get a fairly good UI from:
fission dynamic toolbear (unused buttons disappear, address bar expands to almost full width when selected, search bar gets about 1/2) auto hidding tabbar button to flash up softkey functions would be useful too mouseless browsing (for non touch screen)** mouse gestures (for touch screen)*
mousegestures would need to be modified to turn into hand writing recognistion on when your in a text box. mouseless browsing would need to be modified so it can use only keys 1-9 but i dont think thats too hard
Agreed, even though the current run of XKCD comics arn't to my liking (Not saying thier not good, just not my sense of humor, well theyre do to about 1 in 3 making me lol), they completly beat the crap out of this.
even though im not a gamer penny arcade is much funnier than this.
hell even CAD which i dont read anymore because the quality droped soo much, is still better than this.
But tbh i never found anything but gaming on a windows machine 'fun', i couldnt encrypt the filesystem pointlessly, i count change the way it looked, i couldnt give it cool effects, hell all i could do was play games!
Give me a 51% vote, come on you already voted for bush, TWICE!.......oh wait that was what the whole paper vs electronic thing was about.
From what i understand the ACLU merely acts on behalf of people, so id step back before attacking them and just hope that the legal system will reject they're move against a centralized paper counting system (theyre not for electronic voting just against 1 type of paper voting).
how hard are your voting systems, we just write a big x next to the candidates name KISS. If your system is that complicated perhaps the best method is to have a touch screen do all, the double vote checking and picking who you want (think nice shinny logos and faces for the less intelligent amongst you), then simply punching the paper for you. Although perhaps an argument could be made for voting evolution, the dumber votes are less likely to survive and therefore voting keeps getting harder as only those smart enough to use it count!
O dont know if you ever heard about this OS called unix, it was sort of pointless never got anywhere was full of these crazy ideas like
* Open standards
* Multi user system
* hierarchical file system
* Lots of small programs
* Configure stuff in text files
the kde way of configuring stuff is fairly easy, if you want to configure say kicker you can
a) do it by gui (this is USEFULL for >90% of users and gives >90% of options )
b) do it by text file (this is USEFULL for the 10% of users that want the extra 10% of options)
why text files, because some people like emacs, some people like vi, hell real CLI people can edit settings with a couple of cats and a grep.
So now go crying back to your nazi leaders that say there is no extra 10% and ask them why they think theyre better than the principles that unix and linux are founded on!
O and how easy is it for you to backup you just panel settings or just your window manager settings?
why shouldn't a power user use a gui? because they dont have to? if thats the case then surely theyres no point in a power user even having a DE as theyre for 'noobs' anyway? AND if you dont like clutter you can just uninstall the GUIs and edit everything in vi!
p.s sorry for the obvious godwinds law but you sir are an idiot, as even true power users (linus and co , think gnome is too noobed up)
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plane tickets are free, he had to get his money somewhere, and that somewhere was pretty much US citizens pockets! It's hardly the fault of the United States. Afghanistan is such a backward country Well apart from putting a regime in power just so the Russians didn't get the oil.
assuming the kid gets to spend some time on death row, the US could simply pull out and then pay some group to invade on thier behalf, then invade them, he'd only need about 20 years on death row!
While i love the idea of touchscreens the consensus is that people are just too lazy to use them on anything bigger than a phone, perhaps a UMPC.
When i get the time i intend to use some weird compiz stuff + wiimote + hand gestures, but i realize while it will look cool to start with, ill probably go back to WIMP, because it takes a lot less effort.( Once i get board i may keep it alongside normal controls because im the kind of user who has 3 ways to do everything ). I see touchscreens as being in a similar situation, every so often youll press the close button but most of the time you'll be using the mouse, right?.
Touchscreen does have a place but the desktop is not it
And the Microsoft surface does seam like a complete waste of money
gestures only seam useful for either rare actions (launching programs, etc) or gaming ( using gestures to control your character in games like 2nd life).
I can only see touchscreen being useful for phones, artists and writing notes ( e.g lectures standing at the front writing on their tablet and it gets added to the screen ) any other ideas?
well its a long shot but i really think that motion sensitivity is the way smart phones should go.
It Greatly amplifies a cameras abilities to take panoramic shots, scan documents, perhaps even allow for 3d images. It would also allow for films taken on phones to compensate for motion that is inevitable when using such a small device.
It could also be useful for "advanced users" tweaking their UI, or allow average users to shake the device to go up levels in the interface. And it could be used to view/write documents.
The Article also mentions games, well if the WII is anything to go by then average people really enjoy games that involve physical interaction.
Security? If you drop the phone it could protect itself, if the phone is yanked out of your hand it would be able to lock the screen. OR for those of us who want to look cool, imagine unlocking your phone with a secret handshake
I really see it being included as users don't 'need' it but to be a truly revolutionary phone the enhancement a motion sensor would allow endless possibilities.
It could affect mythTV boxes sold as one unit, but as mythTV is software and only America respects software patents, i suspect it will have no effect development.
Given that development will continue im sure usage (including American usage) will continue t grow.
all that said mythTV is only good for people that care about looks, id much rather have one of the older solutions that can record multiple channels on a multiplex.
4.0 to port, 4.1, 4.2 to stabilize, 4.3 major rework, 4.4 -4.6 to stabilize
For end user products it makes more sense to have a change, and stabilize model (what kde have done) than a constant change model (kernel), so given that big changes are a must its best to fit them into this model instead of wedge them in to produce a never finishing product.
I appreciate that you have to try out new ideas, but somebody should have told this guy that splitting the keyboard in 2 isn't a good idea. I also don't like the idea mouse buttons used by a separate hand, the main advantage to using a touchpad for me is 1/2/3 finger tapping.
There is a good goal behind this teribale product, if you want to make a UPMC smaller you have to get rid of the touchpad.
touchsreen? people say its tiering, im not sure that this is true on a UPMC tho? its only going to be 10" at most.
nipple? whatever happened to them? they weren't too useful on laptops but that's only because touchpads were better.
what about a more standard keyboard using touchpad technology? If you get rid of the stuff that sucks in this product, separator bar, flat keyboard, 1 big button. o wait that's my idea to make millions, does Slashdot count as prior art? Do you need to work out the technical details or can you just patent ideas?
The article way of increasing the screen space is useful though, i wonder if the EEE can be hacked to give a similar effect with the touchpad + modifier key?
i switched because i found that gnome limited me too much (although this was before i was confident with the CLI) and xfce was well ugly ( having tested it recently i realise that this isnt true but i still think that kde looks nice *disclaimer* for me *disclaimer* )
also i recently suggested kde over gnome to a newer newbie and he felt that gnome was better, i think its not a question of newness but taste. ( although stupidly i said that xfce probably wasn't worth trying, should have encouraged him to try everything like i did)
I have tried a few light DE/WM and found that fluxbox was nice but i never spent the time to set it up, maybe id like it more if i was a 'pro' and had set it quickly?
The article agrees, he believed that it should have been called a point-oh-oh release. But your completely wrong claiming they are redefining the meaning of a point oh release, the practice of releasing early and releasing often, is completely normal. They've got a development cycle quite similar to that of the kernel, only because kde is an end user "feature" they have to compromise with the distros and have a more ridged release cycle. I do however encourage you to go the the LKML and convince Linus that they should really wait longer between release and that 0 bugs/regressions should be the target of any release!
OR instead of arguing about the usefullnes of release often, and release early look what happens when you dont, Vista, the beryl split, etc.
Ive tried KDE4.0 on a low end system and it ran fine, it did have some stuff crash but it was a beta. Unfortunately the style of the system wasn't to my liking, im quite disappointed by plasma as i feal that kicker was fine ( i say fine it does have a to fast timer and a few other bugs but aesthetically its where I FEAL it should be), but i supose that sort of thinking is what leads to people insisting CLI/CDE/other old system, is far better than the modern alternative. I supose that apart from bug fixes they're wasnt much left to be done on the 3.x branch?
The article suggests that 4.0 was a framework release that allows bugs to be fix in the core, and programs to be fixed ontop of it and to that end it was a definite success.
Keeping in mind his comments on KDE vs Gnome, i do wonder what the gnome development process is like?
Probably not good as a primary mechanism, but as an option or something with a little infuence it would be quite useful.
I know google has a whole host of algorithms merged to give its results, i can see this being useful as a lower level one, unfortunately i can never see this being CPU efficient, it means that instead of reading a database it has to personally search your web every time you search. I Would like to see it as an extra option tho!
Wouldnt simply downloading a music analyzing program ( something like a renormalizer that gives you the noise level on a track ) and claiming you were collecting music, to perform a study on noise levels used by different artists, or something, count as scientific use!
further questions could be answered by saying you didnt want a formal plan so you didnt introduce a known bias into the music database you were compiling.
Hell you could even form a group and do it for real!
you mean the status bar?
i think safari style fission would do well.
i know nothing about UI design but i recon you can get a fairly good UI from:
fission
dynamic toolbear (unused buttons disappear, address bar expands to almost full width when selected, search bar gets about 1/2)
auto hidding tabbar
button to flash up softkey functions would be useful too
mouseless browsing (for non touch screen)**
mouse gestures (for touch screen)*
mousegestures would need to be modified to turn into hand writing recognistion on when your in a text box.
mouseless browsing would need to be modified so it can use only keys 1-9 but i dont think thats too hard
Agreed, even though the current run of XKCD comics arn't to my liking (Not saying thier not good, just not my sense of humor, well theyre do to about 1 in 3 making me lol), they completly beat the crap out of this.
even though im not a gamer penny arcade is much funnier than this.
hell even CAD which i dont read anymore because the quality droped soo much, is still better than this.
But tbh i never found anything but gaming on a windows machine 'fun', i couldnt encrypt the filesystem pointlessly, i count change the way it looked, i couldnt give it cool effects, hell all i could do was play games!
Give me a 51% vote, come on you already voted for bush, TWICE!... ....oh wait that was what the whole paper vs electronic thing was about.
From what i understand the ACLU merely acts on behalf of people, so id step back before attacking them and just hope that the legal system will reject they're move against a centralized paper counting system (theyre not for electronic voting just against 1 type of paper voting).
how hard are your voting systems, we just write a big x next to the candidates name KISS. If your system is that complicated perhaps the best method is to have a touch screen do all, the double vote checking and picking who you want (think nice shinny logos and faces for the less intelligent amongst you), then simply punching the paper for you. Although perhaps an argument could be made for voting evolution, the dumber votes are less likely to survive and therefore voting keeps getting harder as only those smart enough to use it count!
O dont know if you ever heard about this OS called unix, it was sort of pointless never got anywhere was full of these crazy ideas like * Open standards * Multi user system * hierarchical file system * Lots of small programs * Configure stuff in text files the kde way of configuring stuff is fairly easy, if you want to configure say kicker you can a) do it by gui (this is USEFULL for >90% of users and gives >90% of options ) b) do it by text file (this is USEFULL for the 10% of users that want the extra 10% of options) why text files, because some people like emacs, some people like vi, hell real CLI people can edit settings with a couple of cats and a grep. So now go crying back to your nazi leaders that say there is no extra 10% and ask them why they think theyre better than the principles that unix and linux are founded on! O and how easy is it for you to backup you just panel settings or just your window manager settings? why shouldn't a power user use a gui? because they dont have to? if thats the case then surely theyres no point in a power user even having a DE as theyre for 'noobs' anyway? AND if you dont like clutter you can just uninstall the GUIs and edit everything in vi! p.s sorry for the obvious godwinds law but you sir are an idiot, as even true power users (linus and co , think gnome is too noobed up)