Fred: Hey you here about this new bing thing? Tom: Yeah, i saw an ad for it last night. Fred: So what is it? Tom: Meh, its just some new way to google stuff!
because its my phone and i fucking want to! Just because its completely stupid, is not a good enough reason to not let me! Ofc the palm has a damn good reason to do this, because its not trying to be a full linux distro, evidently this is!
I would not consider firefox a full distro, if somebody produces an entire OS and the only interface i was given to interact with was writing firefox extensions and web pages, then yes i would consider that OS locked down!
Being a real distro requires the ability to run apps in any language i want (e.g any compiled language w/ a compiler for my arch, or any interpreted language with an interpreter for my arch)
As somebody who, is currently being frustrated by the cheapest phone available (Sony Ericsson have crippled the software so bad it doesn't have features the N500 had, deleting oldest sms, etc), I really hope that linux makes its way down the food chain to cheap nokia phone a few years in the future.
I remember somebody (from ibm i think) implementing pinch+twist in perl, does anybody know if the code every got polished and upstreamed? I think much of the framework for this stuff is there (hal, mpx, etc) but as always it needs somebody to really polish it up before its ready of users, i.e if you buy an embeded device with linux installed your probably ok, but setting up debian/fedora on the same system would be a PITA.
Between the number of incidence where they bomb/shoot clearly marked journalist, bomb/shoot wedding parties, shoot cars full of women & children and there general ability to shoot their allies, US tropes have a reputation for causing huge numbers of innocent casualties! If this is in-spite of having much better tech than most, perhaps its just that you have an attitude problem or poor training!
Dear god can you even fucking read english? How the fuck can a downtrodden unarmed family possibly prevent a well armed mobile group from launching/planning attacks near their homes
therefore we should ignore attacks launched by our enemies hiding amongst civilians
Seriously Where the fuck does he say that? And above nobody is suggesting we ignore the attacks, just that arming the troops with tools to better fight the enemy without causing unnecessary civilian casualties, is a good idea
don't use wifi, far too easy to jam, OFC any wireless tech can be jammed, but wifi is much more vulnerable than others!Wep is useless so disconnect packets can be injected and wpa has a disconnection on suspicious behaviour policy. A better protocol would have to be fault tolerant encryption, which is generally hard to come by, perhaps even resorting to using several antennas and wave-phase stuff to get through pure blocking
yeah beacuse the US army, don't kill enough innocent civilians and obviously don't need a way to find out if there are women/children in there (cowering or as hostages)!
How much embedded stuff do you know that is using X86/X86_64?
This project seams pretty pointless, given that modern compilers are pretty good at converting C to efficient assembly (especially for X86) and there are a fair few high efficiency OSs. The primary value i can see in a project like this is publicity (i.e im soo hardcore i can do an OS in assembly) and education, both are better served by an open license (and they can fork and sell the ARM port under any if they are smart about it)
Here in the UK, they kick them out!...wait a few years until everybody forgets about them, then but them back at the same level. But if somebody is incompetent enough to get caught repeatedly, we promote them to lord!
well there good for: watching TV listening to radio paying with your phone recording videos/taking photos of a high quality VPN, wifi-hotspot creating,...etc
Seriously not everybody needs everything to be dumbed down for them, some people can use menus, additionally the full voice control can work around the "horrible interface".
But my claim was not to say no companies could benefit from it , just that the benefit is mainly aimed towards the end users , who can be ensured that the software will remain free.
You completely missed his point, his point is that the companies benefit because the software (and any improvements made by competitors) will remain free!
I'm using Chrome right now, but it isn't "different" in any deep sense of the word; just slightly themed.
I'd be very surprised if you can make a browser THAT differently, given that the underlying protocol/model won't change.
Erm chrome/ie7 where leaps better than the other browsers in the sense that they completly changed the underlying process/thread/tab model. chrome isn't about its lightweight UI its about the changes under the hood!
Why should i have to go wandering round multiple sites of unknown reliability when wikipedia could at least serve up the basics! It wouldn't piss my off so much if wikipedia had always aimed to be an "encyclopedia of things we like and some people may edit.", but it didn't it was meant to be "the encyclopedia of everything that everyone can edit", and it pretty much was until a ruling clique formed!
If the police can't find enough evidence to convict said alleged perpetrator without forcing or coercing them to divulge it themselves, the police haven't done their job and shouldn't get the conviction
Why? If the police can convince a judge that defendant has some evidence in encrypted partition, and the person refuses to hand over the data they are Preverting the course of justice.
It's not lawlessness to require the government to play by the rules they laid out in the first place, it's called "Rule of Law."
The CPS did play by the rules, the rules of THIS country.
If you encrypt a partition (with any program) its indistinguishable from random data, however the fact you have 10G of random data and an encryption program on your computer suggests there you have an encrypted partition
If you create a hidden partition, the fact you have 9.9G of free space in you hidden partition and a stenographic encryption program, suggests you have a hidden partition
Truecrypt as offers no protection unless: 1) it comes on your computer as the default encryption tool (having it as non-default doesn't help and there are many ways to give away that you have a hidden partition) 2) it starts allowing multiple hidden partition on an encrypted partition
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Fred: Hey you here about this new bing thing?
Tom: Yeah, i saw an ad for it last night.
Fred: So what is it?
Tom: Meh, its just some new way to google stuff!
None of the companies in this coalition had the balls to step up and do this themselves.
Nobody wants to go up against the G alone, i mean they can fuck with your pagerank then how will people find your website!
because its my phone and i fucking want to! Just because its completely stupid, is not a good enough reason to not let me! Ofc the palm has a damn good reason to do this, because its not trying to be a full linux distro, evidently this is!
I would not consider firefox a full distro, if somebody produces an entire OS and the only interface i was given to interact with was writing firefox extensions and web pages, then yes i would consider that OS locked down!
Being a real distro requires the ability to run apps in any language i want (e.g any compiled language w/ a compiler for my arch, or any interpreted language with an interpreter for my arch)
not only that but you can get around nano without spending 3 years learning stupid shortcuts!!!
There's an emacs mode for that!
As somebody who, is currently being frustrated by the cheapest phone available (Sony Ericsson have crippled the software so bad it doesn't have features the N500 had, deleting oldest sms, etc), I really hope that linux makes its way down the food chain to cheap nokia phone a few years in the future.
I remember somebody (from ibm i think) implementing pinch+twist in perl, does anybody know if the code every got polished and upstreamed?
I think much of the framework for this stuff is there (hal, mpx, etc) but as always it needs somebody to really polish it up before its ready of users, i.e if you buy an embeded device with linux installed your probably ok, but setting up debian/fedora on the same system would be a PITA.
Between the number of incidence where they bomb/shoot clearly marked journalist, bomb/shoot wedding parties, shoot cars full of women & children and there general ability to shoot their allies, US tropes have a reputation for causing huge numbers of innocent casualties! If this is in-spite of having much better tech than most, perhaps its just that you have an attitude problem or poor training!
Dear god can you even fucking read english? How the fuck can a downtrodden unarmed family possibly prevent a well armed mobile group from launching/planning attacks near their homes
therefore we should ignore attacks launched by our enemies hiding amongst civilians
Seriously Where the fuck does he say that? And above nobody is suggesting we ignore the attacks, just that arming the troops with tools to better fight the enemy without causing unnecessary civilian casualties, is a good idea
Why would one take a hostage, if they knew they would just die right along with the hostage?
A bit like a hydra, the more innocent people the US kill the more soldiers they get.
don't use wifi, far too easy to jam, OFC any wireless tech can be jammed, but wifi is much more vulnerable than others!Wep is useless so disconnect packets can be injected and wpa has a disconnection on suspicious behaviour policy. A better protocol would have to be fault tolerant encryption, which is generally hard to come by, perhaps even resorting to using several antennas and wave-phase stuff to get through pure blocking
yeah beacuse the US army, don't kill enough innocent civilians and obviously don't need a way to find out if there are women/children in there (cowering or as hostages)!
Right if your running a vulnerable app, you should let it update itself, sigh!
How much embedded stuff do you know that is using X86/X86_64?
This project seams pretty pointless, given that modern compilers are pretty good at converting C to efficient assembly (especially for X86) and there are a fair few high efficiency OSs. The primary value i can see in a project like this is publicity (i.e im soo hardcore i can do an OS in assembly) and education, both are better served by an open license (and they can fork and sell the ARM port under any if they are smart about it)
Here in the UK, they kick them out! ...wait a few years until everybody forgets about them, then but them back at the same level. But if somebody is incompetent enough to get caught repeatedly, we promote them to lord!
well there good for:
watching TV
listening to radio
paying with your phone
recording videos/taking photos of a high quality
VPN, wifi-hotspot creating,...etc
Seriously not everybody needs everything to be dumbed down for them, some people can use menus, additionally the full voice control can work around the "horrible interface".
s/trolls/troll/
Occam's razor suggests
there is a trolls with mod points.
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You have a point , offcourse.
But my claim was not to say no companies could benefit from it , just that the benefit is mainly aimed towards the end users , who can be ensured that the software will remain free.
You completely missed his point, his point is that the companies benefit because the software (and any improvements made by competitors) will remain free!
I'm using Chrome right now, but it isn't "different" in any deep sense of the word; just slightly themed.
I'd be very surprised if you can make a browser THAT differently, given that the underlying protocol/model won't change.
Erm chrome/ie7 where leaps better than the other browsers in the sense that they completly changed the underlying process/thread/tab model. chrome isn't about its lightweight UI its about the changes under the hood!
Why should i have to go wandering round multiple sites of unknown reliability when wikipedia could at least serve up the basics!
It wouldn't piss my off so much if wikipedia had always aimed to be an "encyclopedia of things we like and some people may edit.", but it didn't it was meant to be "the encyclopedia of everything that everyone can edit", and it pretty much was until a ruling clique formed!
If the police can't find enough evidence to convict said alleged perpetrator without forcing or coercing them to divulge it themselves, the police haven't done their job and shouldn't get the conviction
Why? If the police can convince a judge that defendant has some evidence in encrypted partition, and the person refuses to hand over the data they are Preverting the course of justice.
It's not lawlessness to require the government to play by the rules they laid out in the first place, it's called "Rule of Law."
The CPS did play by the rules, the rules of THIS country.
If you encrypt a partition (with any program) its indistinguishable from random data, however the fact you have 10G of random data and an encryption program on your computer suggests there you have an encrypted partition
If you create a hidden partition, the fact you have 9.9G of free space in you hidden partition and a stenographic encryption program, suggests you have a hidden partition
Truecrypt as offers no protection unless:
1) it comes on your computer as the default encryption tool (having it as non-default doesn't help and there are many ways to give away that you have a hidden partition)
2) it starts allowing multiple hidden partition on an encrypted partition