Then it's not always the idyllic scenario described in a couple of other comments. The pleasant ambiance would mean little to myself with the additional harassment combined with an indefinite time span -- the results being the same as a prison sentence. However, is this a rarity? Is it also violating a fundamental right for Swedish citizens to force government employees to formally explain themselves to a separate legal entity within a reasonable time?
Here in the States, they supposedly eliminated this problem with the right of Habeas Corpus. I say supposedly, since it has been suspended on occassion. Otherwise, anything over 5 working days is considered abuse and (in theory) puts the defendant in a strong position to be successful in requesting the charges be dropped. (Ianal.)
As others have already posted, this is not the "solitary confinement" that you have in US prisons. [...]
[...] In solitary confinement you get bed, PRIVACY, tv (if officially charged, or prosecutor allows i.e. after giving your sworn statement), table, toilet, water, foodstuff, books and library visit, paper and pen, access to phone (with permission of prosecutor), training room, shower, and so on. It's not the american "solitary confinement" nor is it to punish you, it's way more costly, and they try to put you into "GREEN" ward asap. After that you'll be sent to prison where there is place for you, and if you are unlucky, you get to be 3 or more in one cell. [...]
In that case, the initial question about "missing something" as to why solitary confinement was necessary, was answered. The reason makes sense, based on what the AC above is saying, which is confirmed by the second AC being quoted from another post made later in these comments.
Here in the States, whether the individual deserves it or not, with the exception of some issues involving high profile cases, the tendency is to treat the prisoner in isolation like a caged dog.
Really? Am I missing something about why this is necessary? Otherwise, it seems to be an act of vengeful spite or an unreasonable fear of computer technology?
Thanks. Fwiw, having been a fan of Fleming's books, I did sense something wrong as I ignored the idea and wrote MI5 anyway. However, in (my somewhat) delayed defense, I couldn't help noticing the cause: that TFS, taken from TFA, both had made the error of referring to Q as an employee of MI5.
If I were to give SpyMaster the benefit of doubt, remembering MI6 wasn't officially recognized until the 1990's, they probably said the wrong department intentionally, misnaming it due to a combination of old habits and legal reasons. however, if that's not the case, then they're probably cash hungry stereotypes unconcerned about accuracy.
Salesforce don't like the whole pay for it once and keep it model. They like the pay once a month (SaaS) model. They are also pretty shitty at giving data back when you want it. You can have it but it's a bastard to get it out. [...]
The so called Cloud could be useful, if the technology doesn't abuse the internet with an all or nothing mindset. However, since it's the business world's gold rush drooling dream of revenue streams to end all revenue streams, another "pay as you breathe model" worth mentioning is the time share.
Everyone in other places outside the office could have access to a computer; a mainframe with their dumb terminal. It's awesome--as the video will explains. (Warning. With all due respect to everyone from that era and putting nostalgia aside, this video is done in the classic dated laugh-out-loud old school style.)
I get the sense he didn't have the level of discipline with regards to the checklist procedure as say a military trained pilot or astronaut. He became silent, uncommunicative, and did things out of order....
Your explanation about your observations was far better than a similar, less articulate (side-tracked) comment based on my prior military experience and general aviation training that I made at the beginning of TFS (and the pre-summary before this one was accepted) .
No disrespect is meant to everyone involved in the mission, but (imho) the formality and discipline of implementing the checklist to confirm every necessary action was in fact being performed, occasionally had a few worrisome glitches between both Baumgartner and Kittinger (including some staff supported back pedalling) that worsened after my first comment.
Now that the mission was a success; the issues are minimized. However, it would be interesting to know what was going on with the problem in the step Kittinger initially skipped because he, rightly or wrongly, assumed could be skipped.
My experience has been to have it occasionally slow the decision making process. However, Kittinger's experience should be able to counter that problem.
the operator at the control center has a little bit of unfocused goofiness.
You mean Joe Kittenger, the man who holds the existing record, the man Felix trusts implicitly, and possesses the only voice that Felix wants to hear in his capsule?
When you are old enough to need bifocals, you'll appreciate the difference between "unfocused goofiness" and just trying to see.
Thanks for the clarification on the cause of his demeanor -- it wasn't meant to be an insult. In either case, it's comforting to know the observation was valid and not my imagination. Wearing trifocals myself, I can understand the problem -- especially when going back and forth between two or more glasses prior to the bifocal-trifocal solutions. I would occasionally hate myself for how unprofessional it looked to others while they waited for me to make my changes.
The Pilot during the simulated checklist sounded stressed -- worried about something; the operator at the control center has a little bit of unfocused goofiness. Hopefully all goes well and this isn't an indication of anything serious.
No one's banning anything. The only thing being limited it the size of a single container. You can buy a hundred 16-oz containers of any sugary drink if you wanted to.
Good point. My apologies for being too quick to comment with a poor analogy about controlled substances; as some used to say, my bad. In fact, sincerely speaking without any sarcasm, your point is so good, you should be moderated "insightful". A regulation allowing anyone to legally work around its intent is more than ridiculous -- it has no substance and is the same as if it didn't exist at all.
However, I couldn't help wondering if this could be a boon to a business; for example (with an arbitrary pricing): Selling two 16-oz drinks at $2.00 each totaling $4.00, when they used to sell one 32-oz drink for $3.00 each. Argumentative Customers would most likely suggest a work-around, and the businesses would likely want to make the customer happy.
... Hey, New Yorkers. Tired of the rep for being an unhealthy Fat F***; drink a diet cola instead!"
"diet Cola instead"
I fell really sorry for your Merkins. In my world we still drink water and juice that is not 100% chemicals. Yeah, the idiots drink Coke, too, but they are by no means the majority....
My routine: water rarely and usually nothing at all with perhaps way too much coffee (with nothing added). My original comment considered using something similar to the AC's reply until I realized the comment should stay within theme of the problem -- its location and the need for the customer to buy something -- water, when requested, is supplied for free in a small cup in most of the States. Although I'm not that familiar with a city like Manhattan, their response to water might be "get lost"!
The law is ridiculous hopefully it gets over turned.
Going further: Didn't we try this before with alcohol -- ban alcohol and we'll eliminate alcoholism? Instead of creating a potential for a smaller version of that black market and the associated criminal activity with increasing costs in enforcement that went with it, a campaign to educate (which I'm not a big fan of as being an alternative) might be a useful way of redirecting those costs. Would something blunt, such as: "Hey, New Yorkers. Tired of the rep for being an unhealthy Fat F***; drink a diet cola instead!" possibly succeed?
Saudi Arabia has stated that there is a 'crying need for international collaboration to address "freedom of expression" which clearly disregards public order.'
There is a "crying need for international collaboration" to address the livid intolerance exhibited by the Monarchists (we've been there before -- self-absorbed, lazy and inbred) pissed that 6 billion people aren't under their thumb.
I'm just confused because I'm not sure whether this is a slashvertisement for the new 007 movie or this SpyMaster store.
My guess would be for the later. It's a most likely a "staged" product interview for Jeremy Marks' London SpyMaster Stores using the latest Bond film as a segue; similar to the scenarios when writers and actors do the interview circuit promoting their soon to be released book or film. This isn't the real-life Q of MI5 expected; instead, this is a real-life Q using the moniker for marketing purposes.
However, if his company comes up with that jet pack or flying car everyone has been waiting decades for -- or a hover board (that can't go on water) -- then it might be possible to forgive seeing his interview commercial on the spam-site with 62 cookies and two videos running at the same time (that can't be turned off). The actual link for SpyMaster bypassing all of this crap is probably more interesting.
Properly exploited, they could have been used to power our planet. Fortunately, it failed to be true. Imagine -- the awesomeness of the greatly feared -- bacteria with nuclear powered butts.
Interesting in itself, but if I'm understanding the TFA's properly, converting Gold from an undesirable form to something mainstream isn't "production" in the historical sense desired by the Alchemists--later learned by the physicist of the 20th century to involve altering the atomic nucleus (involving fusion or fission).
Obligatory "People who can afford a Tesla aren't bothered by the price of gas"
Probably also obligatory: Will there be enough capital generated from status seeking fans/fanatic to reinvest in a process for creating cost effective innovation in later releases? If Tesla Motors is interested in trying to apply a type of Moore's Law philosophy to the automobile industry, something the old school industry may have genuinely tried in their own way and failed to do, is it more than wishful thinking -- if not in general, perhaps with vehicles using this type of technology?
Then again, perhaps car analogies fail to work in reverse.
If the software Marc Benioff is referring to are applications meant for business communication and collaboration -- with his knowledge, experience and success -- he has a decent probability (imho) of being right.
However, the Internet isn't ubiquitous and doesn't have the following properties: 1. The Network is reliable. 2. Latency is zero. 3. Bandwidth is infinite. 4. The Network is secure. 5. The Network is homogeneous
Until it does, instead of trying to turn my computer into a dumb terminal, the applications I use not requiring bandwidth are better being used offline at my convenience on my own equipment.
"Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever.... "
I wonder what percentage of those reading this get the reference?
It was almost a whoosh for myself, before realizing the reference to Brave New World. I thought the post was referring to the American High School Student IQ Classification system. Based on intelligence tests and grades, students were segregated into one of three mental levels -- above average, average and below average -- the difficulty and demands of the subject matter being simplified accordingly.
The secretive system was meant to be kept from the parents and students; any discussions about the students status by the administration required their use of special labels. The labels for those levels corresponded to the following examples: X, Y or Z; A, B or C; Redbirds, Bluebirds or Canaries; and so on. It's been around since the early 1900's, the labels differing depending on the methodology of the plan used. Although there was more than one plan using other labels besides those just mentioned, one of them was referred to as the Santa Barbara Plan (IIRC).
However, the secret wasn't so secret and most of us knew our classifications -- to my occasional dismay. Cliques used it to create their cliques and would use that knowledge to power-grab, occasionally with demeaning insults. It was somewhat obvious (especially in hindsight) something wasn't right -- the vast majority of the students in the above average classrooms came from the right-side of the tracks.
Perhaps it's a coincidence, but I can't help thinking Aldous Huxley, an Educator, was unaware of the process.
Best practice from my perspective: do not collect the data at all.
Exactly: "Put the Database down now, and step away from the Internet."
Sorry, but my interest in giving beneficial doubt to the question's possible sincerity was lost when reading the part about the unoriginal solution for insuring honesty and transparency -- the solution being hidden in (the lawyer make-work terms of) "our privacy disclosure".
There was a case in Dallas some years ago like this. The guy worked as a window installer.
Some very dangerous criminal (I think the Unabomber, but I may be wrong) was caught because the police found a finger print on a letter that he wrote. Not the criminal's finger print, but the finger print of a completely innocent employee at a copying shop. Which lead them to the shop and from there to the criminal.
Actually (if you aren't wrong), in the case of the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski's capture was done by his brother. The connection leading David Kaczynski to strongly suspect it was his brother was in the writing style of the Unabomber Manifesto published by The Washington Post and NY Times.
Screw did immediately come to mind. However, although my sense of literary license allows screw and bolt to be synonymous, it seemed necessary to avoid the purist's obvious beat-down scream that Bolt!==Screw. Then, there was the idea Space Walker was two words -- George Lucas probably the one responsible for changing it to the debatable one word due to Skywalker.
About then is when it occurred to me that I'm taking this way too seriously.
(Not sure if it's okay to admit to not knowing the meaning of "S-walker". Is it? If it isn't, never mind.)
Slashdot Mirror
Then it's not always the idyllic scenario described in a couple of other comments. The pleasant ambiance would mean little to myself with the additional harassment combined with an indefinite time span -- the results being the same as a prison sentence. However, is this a rarity? Is it also violating a fundamental right for Swedish citizens to force government employees to formally explain themselves to a separate legal entity within a reasonable time?
Here in the States, they supposedly eliminated this problem with the right of Habeas Corpus. I say supposedly, since it has been suspended on occassion. Otherwise, anything over 5 working days is considered abuse and (in theory) puts the defendant in a strong position to be successful in requesting the charges be dropped. (Ianal.)
As others have already posted, this is not the "solitary confinement" that you have in US prisons. [...]
[...] In solitary confinement you get bed, PRIVACY, tv (if officially charged, or prosecutor allows i.e. after giving your sworn statement), table, toilet, water, foodstuff, books and library visit, paper and pen, access to phone (with permission of prosecutor), training room, shower, and so on. It's not the american "solitary confinement" nor is it to punish you, it's way more costly, and they try to put you into "GREEN" ward asap. After that you'll be sent to prison where there is place for you, and if you are unlucky, you get to be 3 or more in one cell. [...]
In that case, the initial question about "missing something" as to why solitary confinement was necessary, was answered. The reason makes sense, based on what the AC above is saying, which is confirmed by the second AC being quoted from another post made later in these comments.
Here in the States, whether the individual deserves it or not, with the exception of some issues involving high profile cases, the tendency is to treat the prisoner in isolation like a caged dog.
Really? Am I missing something about why this is necessary? Otherwise, it seems to be an act of vengeful spite or an unreasonable fear of computer technology?
Q of MI6
FTFY
Thanks. Fwiw, having been a fan of Fleming's books, I did sense something wrong as I ignored the idea and wrote MI5 anyway. However, in (my somewhat) delayed defense, I couldn't help noticing the cause: that TFS, taken from TFA, both had made the error of referring to Q as an employee of MI5.
If I were to give SpyMaster the benefit of doubt, remembering MI6 wasn't officially recognized until the 1990's, they probably said the wrong department intentionally, misnaming it due to a combination of old habits and legal reasons. however, if that's not the case, then they're probably cash hungry stereotypes unconcerned about accuracy.
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Salesforce don't like the whole pay for it once and keep it model. They like the pay once a month (SaaS) model. They are also pretty shitty at giving data back when you want it. You can have it but it's a bastard to get it out. [...]
The so called Cloud could be useful, if the technology doesn't abuse the internet with an all or nothing mindset. However, since it's the business world's gold rush drooling dream of revenue streams to end all revenue streams, another "pay as you breathe model" worth mentioning is the time share.
Everyone in other places outside the office could have access to a computer; a mainframe with their dumb terminal. It's awesome--as the video will explains. (Warning. With all due respect to everyone from that era and putting nostalgia aside, this video is done in the classic dated laugh-out-loud old school style.)
Exit Height: 128,100 Feet
Free Fall Time: 4 Minutes 20 Seconds
Free Fall Distance: 119,846 Feet
Free Fall Speed: 833.9 Miles Per Hour or Mach 1.24
I get the sense he didn't have the level of discipline with regards to the checklist procedure as say a military trained pilot or astronaut. He became silent, uncommunicative, and did things out of order. ...
Your explanation about your observations was far better than a similar, less articulate (side-tracked) comment based on my prior military experience and general aviation training that I made at the beginning of TFS (and the pre-summary before this one was accepted) .
No disrespect is meant to everyone involved in the mission, but (imho) the formality and discipline of implementing the checklist to confirm every necessary action was in fact being performed, occasionally had a few worrisome glitches between both Baumgartner and Kittinger (including some staff supported back pedalling) that worsened after my first comment.
Now that the mission was a success; the issues are minimized. However, it would be interesting to know what was going on with the problem in the step Kittinger initially skipped because he, rightly or wrongly, assumed could be skipped.
My experience has been to have it occasionally slow the decision making process. However, Kittinger's experience should be able to counter that problem.
the operator at the control center has a little bit of unfocused goofiness.
You mean Joe Kittenger, the man who holds the existing record, the man Felix trusts implicitly, and possesses the only voice that Felix wants to hear in his capsule?
When you are old enough to need bifocals, you'll appreciate the difference between "unfocused goofiness" and just trying to see.
Thanks for the clarification on the cause of his demeanor -- it wasn't meant to be an insult. In either case, it's comforting to know the observation was valid and not my imagination. Wearing trifocals myself, I can understand the problem -- especially when going back and forth between two or more glasses prior to the bifocal-trifocal solutions. I would occasionally hate myself for how unprofessional it looked to others while they waited for me to make my changes.
The Pilot during the simulated checklist sounded stressed -- worried about something; the operator at the control center has a little bit of unfocused goofiness.
Hopefully all goes well and this isn't an indication of anything serious.
No one's banning anything. The only thing being limited it the size of a single container. You can buy a hundred 16-oz containers of any sugary drink if you wanted to.
Good point. My apologies for being too quick to comment with a poor analogy about controlled substances; as some used to say, my bad. In fact, sincerely speaking without any sarcasm, your point is so good, you should be moderated "insightful". A regulation allowing anyone to legally work around its intent is more than ridiculous -- it has no substance and is the same as if it didn't exist at all.
However, I couldn't help wondering if this could be a boon to a business; for example (with an arbitrary pricing): Selling two 16-oz drinks at $2.00 each totaling $4.00, when they used to sell one 32-oz drink for $3.00 each. Argumentative Customers would most likely suggest a work-around, and the businesses would likely want to make the customer happy.
"diet Cola instead"
I fell really sorry for your Merkins. In my world we still drink water and juice that is not 100% chemicals. Yeah, the idiots drink Coke, too, but they are by no means the majority. ...
My routine: water rarely and usually nothing at all with perhaps way too much coffee (with nothing added). My original comment considered using something similar to the AC's reply until I realized the comment should stay within theme of the problem -- its location and the need for the customer to buy something -- water, when requested, is supplied for free in a small cup in most of the States. Although I'm not that familiar with a city like Manhattan, their response to water might be "get lost"!
The law is ridiculous hopefully it gets over turned.
Going further: Didn't we try this before with alcohol -- ban alcohol and we'll eliminate alcoholism? Instead of creating a potential for a smaller version of that black market and the associated criminal activity with increasing costs in enforcement that went with it, a campaign to educate (which I'm not a big fan of as being an alternative) might be a useful way of redirecting those costs. Would something blunt, such as: "Hey, New Yorkers. Tired of the rep for being an unhealthy Fat F***; drink a diet cola instead!" possibly succeed?
Saudi Arabia has stated that there is a 'crying need for international collaboration to address "freedom of expression" which clearly disregards public order.'
There is a "crying need for international collaboration" to address the livid intolerance exhibited by the Monarchists (we've been there before -- self-absorbed, lazy and inbred) pissed that 6 billion people aren't under their thumb.
I'm just confused because I'm not sure whether this is a slashvertisement for the new 007 movie or this SpyMaster store.
My guess would be for the later. It's a most likely a "staged" product interview for Jeremy Marks' London SpyMaster Stores using the latest Bond film as a segue; similar to the scenarios when writers and actors do the interview circuit promoting their soon to be released book or film. This isn't the real-life Q of MI5 expected; instead, this is a real-life Q using the moniker for marketing purposes.
However, if his company comes up with that jet pack or flying car everyone has been waiting decades for -- or a hover board (that can't go on water) -- then it might be possible to forgive seeing his interview commercial on the spam-site with 62 cookies and two videos running at the same time (that can't be turned off). The actual link for SpyMaster bypassing all of this crap is probably more interesting.
Hilbert Space
Properly exploited, they could have been used to power our planet.
Fortunately, it failed to be true.
Imagine -- the awesomeness of the greatly feared -- bacteria with nuclear powered butts.
Interesting in itself, but if I'm understanding the TFA's properly, converting Gold from an undesirable form to something mainstream isn't "production" in the historical sense desired by the Alchemists--later learned by the physicist of the 20th century to involve altering the atomic nucleus (involving fusion or fission).
Obligatory "People who can afford a Tesla aren't bothered by the price of gas"
Probably also obligatory: Will there be enough capital generated from status seeking fans/fanatic to reinvest in a process for creating cost effective innovation in later releases? If Tesla Motors is interested in trying to apply a type of Moore's Law philosophy to the automobile industry, something the old school industry may have genuinely tried in their own way and failed to do, is it more than wishful thinking -- if not in general, perhaps with vehicles using this type of technology?
Then again, perhaps car analogies fail to work in reverse.
If the software Marc Benioff is referring to are applications meant for business communication and collaboration -- with his knowledge, experience and success -- he has a decent probability (imho) of being right.
However, the Internet isn't ubiquitous and doesn't have the following properties:
1. The Network is reliable.
2. Latency is zero.
3. Bandwidth is infinite.
4. The Network is secure.
5. The Network is homogeneous
Until it does, instead of trying to turn my computer into a dumb terminal, the applications I use not requiring bandwidth are better being used offline at my convenience on my own equipment.
"Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. ... "
I wonder what percentage of those reading this get the reference?
It was almost a whoosh for myself, before realizing the reference to Brave New World. I thought the post was referring to the American High School Student IQ Classification system. Based on intelligence tests and grades, students were segregated into one of three mental levels -- above average, average and below average -- the difficulty and demands of the subject matter being simplified accordingly.
The secretive system was meant to be kept from the parents and students; any discussions about the students status by the administration required their use of special labels. The labels for those levels corresponded to the following examples: X, Y or Z; A, B or C; Redbirds, Bluebirds or Canaries; and so on. It's been around since the early 1900's, the labels differing depending on the methodology of the plan used. Although there was more than one plan using other labels besides those just mentioned, one of them was referred to as the Santa Barbara Plan (IIRC).
However, the secret wasn't so secret and most of us knew our classifications -- to my occasional dismay. Cliques used it to create their cliques and would use that knowledge to power-grab, occasionally with demeaning insults. It was somewhat obvious (especially in hindsight) something wasn't right -- the vast majority of the students in the above average classrooms came from the right-side of the tracks.
Perhaps it's a coincidence, but I can't help thinking Aldous Huxley, an Educator, was unaware of the process.
Neil Armstrong died today (with Sambo on the dole) ... ...
He's done picked up and gone away (and Sambo's on the dole)
--Gil Not-Heron
It was Gil Scott-Heron; whose notably known for:
Whitey's on the Moon
and The Revolution will not be Televised
Best practice from my perspective: do not collect the data at all.
Exactly: "Put the Database down now, and step away from the Internet."
Sorry, but my interest in giving beneficial doubt to the question's possible sincerity was lost when reading the part about the unoriginal solution for insuring honesty and transparency -- the solution being hidden in (the lawyer make-work terms of) "our privacy disclosure".
There was a case in Dallas some years ago like this. The guy worked as a window installer.
Some very dangerous criminal (I think the Unabomber, but I may be wrong) was caught because the police found a finger print on a letter that he wrote. Not the criminal's finger print, but the finger print of a completely innocent employee at a copying shop. Which lead them to the shop and from there to the criminal.
Actually (if you aren't wrong), in the case of the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski's capture was done by his brother. The connection leading David Kaczynski to strongly suspect it was his brother was in the writing style of the Unabomber Manifesto published by The Washington Post and NY Times.
Screw did immediately come to mind. However, although my sense of literary license allows screw and bolt to be synonymous,
it seemed necessary to avoid the purist's obvious beat-down scream that Bolt!==Screw. Then, there was the idea
Space Walker was two words -- George Lucas probably the one responsible for changing it to the debatable one word due to Skywalker.
About then is when it occurred to me that I'm taking this way too seriously.
(Not sure if it's okay to admit to not knowing the meaning of "S-walker". Is it? If it isn't, never mind.)
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