As I work in both IT and Education I have been offered membership in a union and steadfastly refuse to join one of those corrupt, self serving, industry destroying political lobbies.
Oh go cry us a river.
First and foremost, I would like it made clear I am *not* a member of a Union,...however, considering the garbage I've had to deal with, I'd gladly join one if it were available. I really grow tired of this "anti-Union" talk from people WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM COLLECTIVE BARGAINING THE MOST.
I don't understand where this belief comes from that *you* (or I for that matter) have a duty to be the martyr on the cross of exploitation by major corporations. I don't care if you're talking about IT in a company like IBM, or a Construction worker down on 5th street. Taking advantage of your employees is TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES...there's no other way to look at it.
As someone said earlier, is the company going to take responsibility if this gets discovered, or are they going to forget all about the fact they were told something wasn't kosher and decide it was all the fault of this "lone rogue person"
I'd put money on the corporation covering their ass every time.
I built one of these but the fusion reactors came out just a few years later and I didn't have worry about frying half of my city.
This might seem weird, but I was never that enamored with the Fusion Power Plants. No doubt they were powerful, but I never had a city (and I had a few that were wall to wall) need enough power to justify the cost.
I normally (even with the danger of meltdown looming) "took the money and ran" and built Nuclear Power Plants, then tried to hold out for the Microwave Plants,...and normally didn't need anything bigger.
Another GOVERNMENT SUPPORT RECIPIENT terrified over nothing more than they are going to lose their place at the trough.
Ah, another mind reader who knows everything about me.
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Falcon
I don't have to know anything more about you to know my statement is correct.
You are, by your own admission, dependent on the Government for support, yet you turn right around and rail against extending that opportunity to anyone else.
Perhaps I didn't make my intentions completely clear above, I have *no* personal problem with you seeking and receiving assistance considering the circumstances you've laid out here about your situation.
The difference between us, however, is that I also do not have a problem with others BESIDES you seeking and receiving similar assistance.
I do not (and can't be made too) believe that the majority of people who receive Government Assistance are simply lazy bums looking for a handout. I know that plays real well to the base of voters (who are absolutely convinced "they" are after their money), but I see it as nothing but a red herring designed to get votes.
I believe the over whelming majority of people *WANT* to support themselves and, given the opportunity, *WILL* support themselves vs. the alternative of receiving handouts,...I believe the human condition is much individualistic and seeking of self-support than "conservatives" (not that you've identified yourself as conservative, but "conservatives" are normally the ones crowing about the things I've listed above) want to believe.
In fact, it's been my experience that "conservatives" have a very low opinion of human nature, brought about most likely from their self-serving belief that they only need to hold out a "little bit longer" before God comes and magically removes them from all their problems. (again, you've not identified yourself with such a crowd, but that is predominately what that particular crowd believes.)
I believe Americans want a hand-*up*, not a hand-out. I further believe this bill will provide exactly that.
When I think about beaming energy from space to ground, I wonder about the impact on global warming...
The process basically increases the solar energy reaching the surface to be dissipated (eventually) into the atmosphere. Thus it's a positive direct contribution to global warming. What offsets that? If it reduces greenhouse gas generation sufficiently I can see it might reduce the warming, but I never see that issue discussed.
Joe
Anyway you slice it, human demand for energy is only going to increase. We all know that.
Even if the effects on Global Warming are completely neutral (which I'm not sure I agree with, but for sake of conversation...), it's still a plus in that with an unlimited amount of energy to go around, at least we won't be fighting pointless wars over our currently existing energy sources (though, I guess, having spelled it out, I can't really call them "pointless" wars,...lets say the unnecessary spending of human life for things that could be achieved in other ways,...yeah! I like that better).
Once the benefits of that begin paying off, who knows what kind of discoveries we can make when we have the time to focus our attention. One of the biggest obstacles to space exploration is developing energy sources (both for the sustainability of the craft itself, as well as propulsion) that allow for reasonably fast transit times *and* support for the crew during the trip. We have any number of solutions to the propulsion problem on the drawing boards right now, but they are all pretty much fantasy because we don't have a power source that is both large enough *and* feasible to power them (while Nuclear is used for smaller craft such as the Voyager missions, you'll find building a human-sized spacecraft powered by Nuclear a tough sell in *any* climate, political or otherwise).
for at least 3 reasons: The country that never sleeps because of a concentrated sunbeam from LEO. How much energy escapes while traveling down to Earth (Global Warming)? Plus this is totally weaponizable.
[sarcasm] How many Space Based Solar Power Satellites have you built? [/sarcasm]
but I've been watching Solar Space Power technology over the last couple of years and must admit that it is the first truly "renewable" energy source that can give Nuclear a run for it's money.
If our Japanese friends are willing to be the Ginnie pigs, I'm betting they will have to honor of setting off a new international space race to see who is the first to receive %100 percent of their electricity from this source. Once the inevitable initial bugs are worked out, I mean, come one,...you're talking about *TERRAWATS* of power 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year with *no* greenhouse gas emissions at the source.
You can't tell me, no matter really how much it costs to get off the ground, that you can't make damn buckets of money off of this. I mean, with that type of energy source, it becomes completely reasonable to manufacture Synthetic hydrocarbons (which really, at their heart, only need electricity, hydrogen, and sucking CO2 out of the air). The main block to Synthetic Hydrocarbon fuel up till this point has been the enormous cost associated with supply the base-load energy needed to split hydrogen from Sea Water and the enormous pollution associated with producing that energy (which, in the United States at least, would most certainly be predominately from Coal).
I've long thought Nuclear would be the perfect solution to this, but am not under any illusions to the likelihood of people shedding the NIMBY syndrome anytime soon.
I just hope this doesn't become a victim of a brand-new form of "NIMBY" in the way of "What if they aim it at *my* house!"...or some such complete bulls...excuse me nonsense.
>>>hoards of American women from crossing the border to deliver their babies
This. Does. Not. Happen. Stop making up bullshit; it's smelly and I don't feel like standing in it.
Oh it's bullshit that Americans *take advantage* of cheap healthcare in Canada, but I'm supposed to swallow (by the bucketful, lately) that giving people cheap healthcare here is one of the seven signs of the Apocalypse?
Why do you dismiss this persons wild story (which I find perfectly believable, BTW) but then get hoity-toity when someone questions your bullshit political conspiracy theories?
No, illegal immigrants. The native American Indians didn't stamp the visas of any Europeans who came. The same Europeans who then massacred the native Americans, stole their land, then shoved those who lived onto small reservations.
Falcon
Assuming they didn't infect us with fucking "captain tripps" beforehand (Stephen King fans will get it:))
Mostly the former slaver practiced in America is a political tactic used by people who were never repressed to gain advantage over people who never repressed anyone. This is usually justified by a claim that white america benefited financially from slavery and the disparity still exists (nevermind that grouping people into a white and black america is racism or that there are no shortage of poor white americans in the food stamp line).
Anyone who attempts to justify the existence of "reverse" racism can shampoo my crotch.
Anyone who attempts to justify oppressing a minority of people (I don't care if it's a 49/51, or 10,000 to 1 ratio) simply because "well,...they started it!" can shampoo my dog's crotch.
Or are you comparing my suggestion that we actually take minimal action against criminals is similar to how the Native Americans reacted to our immigration? Now we are up to the devil worshiping nazi raper/murderer.
Silly me, I was aiming for enforcing our laws and refusing services to known criminals.
Isn't that what the East German Government said when they were building the Berlin Wall? I find this whole conversation terribly ironic as we are at the 20th Anniversary of the "removal" of the Berlin Wall,...and people in our own country want to repeat their mistake with similar actions.
What did conservative get out of it? What did those who value freedom get? What did those who want to keep the money they work to earn get?
Falcon
Nothing,...they were all too busy worry about their own asses to be concerned with anything else. "Conservatives" never have any use for government, until they want to be a part of it
Or was it just a compromise between different groups on the US left who don't care what the US Constitution says?
Section 8: The Congress shall have power To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare...
These rights were bestowed to the United States Government *through* the United States Constitution,...don't whine simply because you personally aren't getting your way.
As long as countries like the US (which actually is the only country who has ever used nukes when it even wasn't really necessary) still have nukes, any other country has just as much right to nukes as the US.. So until the US actually stops producing nukes themselves they should shut the hell up and not threaten other countries.. And why isn't anybody complaining about isreal which also have nukes but aren't allowed to have some, why aren't they doing something about that..
God save us all from arm-chair historians delighting in revisionist history.
3% == Americans who *want* health insurance but are not covered. A MINOR fix is needed not government monopoly takeover. ----- 100% == Americans who are *overcharged* for the health care they get compared to their neighbors in Europe (regardless of their *opinions* to the contrary).
as more of a World War III, "All Hands To Battle Station!" type of plan. I doubt very seriously if it would ever be put into practice in any normal emergency (such as the always predominate "Terrorist" act) ï I mean, FEMA has the power (or at least it used too, I *assume* it kept it when it moved to Homeland Security) to virtually suspend constitutional government in the even of a catastrophic emergency (again, a *World War III* type of emergency, not merely a local inconvenience.)
"this lauded amount of Nuclear Waste (I'll just assume the parents declaration of 60,000 tons is correct) wouldn't even come close to filling a single football field (where it stacked in a square)."
...why do these stories about hybrids, fully-electrics, etc. always elicit responses like "but it freezes here, which kills performance" and "but I drive 200 miles every day, will it be able to do that? No."
I don't hear anybody ranting on the Mini for not being able to support a soccer (hockey?) mom with her 3 kids+entourage+equipment. I don't hear anybody complaining that a Ford Excursion is crap up in northern Alaska because the tires keep sinking into the thawing dirt roads. Who last complained about a Scuderia Spider (open top car) because they lived in Seattle and, well, dur?
Not every single car is going to fill your specific needs and desires; thank goodness, then, that there is a wide range to choose from.. and with the Volt and other initiatives, those whose desires include having a non-gasoline car to drive short distances regularly in non-extreme (4 months of freezing is extreme enough, tyvm) weather will be having that choice available to them, just as you have had the choice between a myriad of cars that will happily run with little performance loss at 30F and the heater blasting at full.
Because everyone wants to be the one to declare something shit so they can gloat if it fails. It's like betting $5 on a horse with 100-to-1 odds. The 99.9% of the time THE NAYSAYERS ARE WRONG never gets reported. The.1% of time they are actually write, that's all you here about.
Am I going to trade in my 1 ton GMC for a Volt? Probably not. If I ever decide I need a car, would I give a good long look at the Volt? you bet.
That's the difference between running a COMPANY and moaning constantly on web forums. (I'm sorry if I seem kinda out of sorts, just got back from a tour of duty on the Fox News Forums - (sarcasm) you know how Nancy Pelosi is giving all us liberals our marching orders (/sarcasm).
The US has accumulated that much waste because it is illegal in the US to reprocess that waste into more uranium pellets. Other countries with active nuclear programs recycle their waste, drastically reducing the volume and half-life of the net waste output.
Actually it's not. President Reagan rescinded President Carter's Presidential Order to forbid reprocessing.
The reason reprocessing isn't done in the United States is because, quite frankly, it isn't needed. We have plenty of raw uranium for the foreseeable future, an this lauded amount of Nuclear Waste (I'll just assume the parents declaration of 60,000 tons is correct) wouldn't even come close to filling a single football field (where it stacked in a square).
For going on 70 years of Nuclear Operations, a single football field of waste is pretty damn good compared to the tons of fly ash heaps we've got laying around.
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Oh, and I love how I'm marked "Troll" for stating an obvious fact.
As I work in both IT and Education I have been offered membership in a union and steadfastly refuse to join one of those corrupt, self serving, industry destroying political lobbies.
Oh go cry us a river.
First and foremost, I would like it made clear I am *not* a member of a Union,...however, considering the garbage I've had to deal with, I'd gladly join one if it were available. I really grow tired of this "anti-Union" talk from people WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM COLLECTIVE BARGAINING THE MOST.
I don't understand where this belief comes from that *you* (or I for that matter) have a duty to be the martyr on the cross of exploitation by major corporations. I don't care if you're talking about IT in a company like IBM, or a Construction worker down on 5th street. Taking advantage of your employees is TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES...there's no other way to look at it.
As someone said earlier, is the company going to take responsibility if this gets discovered, or are they going to forget all about the fact they were told something wasn't kosher and decide it was all the fault of this "lone rogue person"
I'd put money on the corporation covering their ass every time.
I built one of these but the fusion reactors came out just a few years later and I didn't have worry about frying half of my city.
This might seem weird, but I was never that enamored with the Fusion Power Plants. No doubt they were powerful, but I never had a city (and I had a few that were wall to wall) need enough power to justify the cost.
I normally (even with the danger of meltdown looming) "took the money and ran" and built Nuclear Power Plants, then tried to hold out for the Microwave Plants,...and normally didn't need anything bigger.
None, b/c it isn't economical or feasible.
[sarcasm] Phis-phos,...flimshaw! Next you're be trying to tell us Nuclear Weapons "must" be radioactive! [/sarcasm]
Another GOVERNMENT SUPPORT RECIPIENT terrified over nothing more than they are going to lose their place at the trough.
Ah, another mind reader who knows everything about me.
Troll
Falcon
I don't have to know anything more about you to know my statement is correct.
You are, by your own admission, dependent on the Government for support, yet you turn right around and rail against extending that opportunity to anyone else.
Perhaps I didn't make my intentions completely clear above, I have *no* personal problem with you seeking and receiving assistance considering the circumstances you've laid out here about your situation.
The difference between us, however, is that I also do not have a problem with others BESIDES you seeking and receiving similar assistance.
I do not (and can't be made too) believe that the majority of people who receive Government Assistance are simply lazy bums looking for a handout. I know that plays real well to the base of voters (who are absolutely convinced "they" are after their money), but I see it as nothing but a red herring designed to get votes.
I believe the over whelming majority of people *WANT* to support themselves and, given the opportunity, *WILL* support themselves vs. the alternative of receiving handouts,...I believe the human condition is much individualistic and seeking of self-support than "conservatives" (not that you've identified yourself as conservative, but "conservatives" are normally the ones crowing about the things I've listed above) want to believe.
In fact, it's been my experience that "conservatives" have a very low opinion of human nature, brought about most likely from their self-serving belief that they only need to hold out a "little bit longer" before God comes and magically removes them from all their problems. (again, you've not identified yourself with such a crowd, but that is predominately what that particular crowd believes.)
I believe Americans want a hand-*up*, not a hand-out. I further believe this bill will provide exactly that.
When I think about beaming energy from space to ground, I wonder about the impact on global warming...
The process basically increases the solar energy reaching the surface to be dissipated (eventually) into the atmosphere. Thus it's a positive direct contribution to global warming. What offsets that? If it reduces greenhouse gas generation sufficiently I can see it might reduce the warming, but I never see that issue discussed.
Joe
Anyway you slice it, human demand for energy is only going to increase. We all know that.
Even if the effects on Global Warming are completely neutral (which I'm not sure I agree with, but for sake of conversation...), it's still a plus in that with an unlimited amount of energy to go around, at least we won't be fighting pointless wars over our currently existing energy sources (though, I guess, having spelled it out, I can't really call them "pointless" wars,...lets say the unnecessary spending of human life for things that could be achieved in other ways,...yeah! I like that better).
Once the benefits of that begin paying off, who knows what kind of discoveries we can make when we have the time to focus our attention. One of the biggest obstacles to space exploration is developing energy sources (both for the sustainability of the craft itself, as well as propulsion) that allow for reasonably fast transit times *and* support for the crew during the trip. We have any number of solutions to the propulsion problem on the drawing boards right now, but they are all pretty much fantasy because we don't have a power source that is both large enough *and* feasible to power them (while Nuclear is used for smaller craft such as the Voyager missions, you'll find building a human-sized spacecraft powered by Nuclear a tough sell in *any* climate, political or otherwise).
This could very well be the solution.
Could this be the beginnings of a death ray? The next super-weapon?
You mean like zapping enemy soldiers on the ground,...like the proverbial "ant under the magnifying glass"?
COOOLLLLLL!!!!
for at least 3 reasons: The country that never sleeps because of a concentrated sunbeam from LEO. How much energy escapes while traveling down to Earth (Global Warming)? Plus this is totally weaponizable.
[sarcasm] How many Space Based Solar Power Satellites have you built? [/sarcasm]
but I've been watching Solar Space Power technology over the last couple of years and must admit that it is the first truly "renewable" energy source that can give Nuclear a run for it's money.
If our Japanese friends are willing to be the Ginnie pigs, I'm betting they will have to honor of setting off a new international space race to see who is the first to receive %100 percent of their electricity from this source. Once the inevitable initial bugs are worked out, I mean, come one,...you're talking about *TERRAWATS* of power 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year with *no* greenhouse gas emissions at the source.
You can't tell me, no matter really how much it costs to get off the ground, that you can't make damn buckets of money off of this. I mean, with that type of energy source, it becomes completely reasonable to manufacture Synthetic hydrocarbons (which really, at their heart, only need electricity, hydrogen, and sucking CO2 out of the air). The main block to Synthetic Hydrocarbon fuel up till this point has been the enormous cost associated with supply the base-load energy needed to split hydrogen from Sea Water and the enormous pollution associated with producing that energy (which, in the United States at least, would most certainly be predominately from Coal).
I've long thought Nuclear would be the perfect solution to this, but am not under any illusions to the likelihood of people shedding the NIMBY syndrome anytime soon.
I just hope this doesn't become a victim of a brand-new form of "NIMBY" in the way of "What if they aim it at *my* house!"...or some such complete bulls...excuse me nonsense.
>>>hoards of American women from crossing the border to deliver their babies
This. Does. Not. Happen. Stop making up bullshit; it's smelly and I don't feel like standing in it.
Oh it's bullshit that Americans *take advantage* of cheap healthcare in Canada, but I'm supposed to swallow (by the bucketful, lately) that giving people cheap healthcare here is one of the seven signs of the Apocalypse?
Why do you dismiss this persons wild story (which I find perfectly believable, BTW) but then get hoity-toity when someone questions your bullshit political conspiracy theories?
No, illegal immigrants. The native American Indians didn't stamp the visas of any Europeans who came. The same Europeans who then massacred the native Americans, stole their land, then shoved those who lived onto small reservations.
Falcon
Assuming they didn't infect us with fucking "captain tripps" beforehand (Stephen King fans will get it :))
Mostly the former slaver practiced in America is a political tactic used by people who were never repressed to gain advantage over people who never repressed anyone. This is usually justified by a claim that white america benefited financially from slavery and the disparity still exists (nevermind that grouping people into a white and black america is racism or that there are no shortage of poor white americans in the food stamp line).
Anyone who attempts to justify the existence of "reverse" racism can shampoo my crotch.
Anyone who attempts to justify oppressing a minority of people (I don't care if it's a 49/51, or 10,000 to 1 ratio) simply because "well,...they started it!" can shampoo my dog's crotch.
Or are you comparing my suggestion that we actually take minimal action against criminals is similar to how the Native Americans reacted to our immigration? Now we are up to the devil worshiping nazi raper/murderer.
Silly me, I was aiming for enforcing our laws and refusing services to known criminals.
Isn't that what the East German Government said when they were building the Berlin Wall? I find this whole conversation terribly ironic as we are at the 20th Anniversary of the "removal" of the Berlin Wall,...and people in our own country want to repeat their mistake with similar actions.
What did conservative get out of it? What did those who value freedom get? What did those who want to keep the money they work to earn get?
Falcon
Nothing,...they were all too busy worry about their own asses to be concerned with anything else. "Conservatives" never have any use for government, until they want to be a part of it
Or was it just a compromise between different groups on the US left who don't care what the US Constitution says?
Section 8: The Congress shall have power To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare...
These rights were bestowed to the United States Government *through* the United States Constitution,...don't whine simply because you personally aren't getting your way.
All they have to do is extend Medicare to cover everyone.
Medicare is not a single payer system. I know, being on disability I am on Medicare and it does not cover all my medical expenses.
Falcon
Another GOVERNMENT SUPPORT RECIPIENT terrified over nothing more than they are going to lose their place at the trough.
Now Obama seems to be on the war path to completely destroy our economy...
Those of us not aligned with the Democrats warned at the top of our voices that this would happen if Obama was elected.
And that he was a Muslim. Sorry, the latter kinda takes away from the former.
As long as countries like the US (which actually is the only country who has ever used nukes when it even wasn't really necessary) still have nukes, any other country has just as much right to nukes as the US.. So until the US actually stops producing nukes themselves they should shut the hell up and not threaten other countries..
And why isn't anybody complaining about isreal which also have nukes but aren't allowed to have some, why aren't they doing something about that..
God save us all from arm-chair historians delighting in revisionist history.
they have Internet Access?
this will be a boon to the dangerously undeserved industries of burger flipping, ditch digging, and lawn mowing.
3% == Americans who *want* health insurance but are not covered. A MINOR fix is needed not government monopoly takeover.
-----
100% == Americans who are *overcharged* for the health care they get compared to their neighbors in Europe (regardless of their *opinions* to the contrary).
as more of a World War III, "All Hands To Battle Station!" type of plan. I doubt very seriously if it would ever be put into practice in any normal emergency (such as the always predominate "Terrorist" act)
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I mean, FEMA has the power (or at least it used too, I *assume* it kept it when it moved to Homeland Security) to virtually suspend constitutional government in the even of a catastrophic emergency (again, a *World War III* type of emergency, not merely a local inconvenience.)
What about dog?
"this lauded amount of Nuclear Waste (I'll just assume the parents declaration of 60,000 tons is correct) wouldn't even come close to filling a single football field (where it stacked in a square)."
I wonder what would happen if we did.
Criticality event? Or just a dull fizzle?
I'm betting just a damn mess :)
...why do these stories about hybrids, fully-electrics, etc. always elicit responses like "but it freezes here, which kills performance" and "but I drive 200 miles every day, will it be able to do that? No."
I don't hear anybody ranting on the Mini for not being able to support a soccer (hockey?) mom with her 3 kids+entourage+equipment.
I don't hear anybody complaining that a Ford Excursion is crap up in northern Alaska because the tires keep sinking into the thawing dirt roads.
Who last complained about a Scuderia Spider (open top car) because they lived in Seattle and, well, dur?
Not every single car is going to fill your specific needs and desires; thank goodness, then, that there is a wide range to choose from.. and with the Volt and other initiatives, those whose desires include having a non-gasoline car to drive short distances regularly in non-extreme (4 months of freezing is extreme enough, tyvm) weather will be having that choice available to them, just as you have had the choice between a myriad of cars that will happily run with little performance loss at 30F and the heater blasting at full.
Because everyone wants to be the one to declare something shit so they can gloat if it fails. It's like betting $5 on a horse with 100-to-1 odds. The 99.9% of the time THE NAYSAYERS ARE WRONG never gets reported. The .1% of time they are actually write, that's all you here about.
Am I going to trade in my 1 ton GMC for a Volt? Probably not. If I ever decide I need a car, would I give a good long look at the Volt? you bet.
That's the difference between running a COMPANY and moaning constantly on web forums. (I'm sorry if I seem kinda out of sorts, just got back from a tour of duty on the Fox News Forums - (sarcasm) you know how Nancy Pelosi is giving all us liberals our marching orders (/sarcasm).
The US has accumulated that much waste because it is illegal in the US to reprocess that waste into more uranium pellets. Other countries with active nuclear programs recycle their waste, drastically reducing the volume and half-life of the net waste output.
Actually it's not. President Reagan rescinded President Carter's Presidential Order to forbid reprocessing.
The reason reprocessing isn't done in the United States is because, quite frankly, it isn't needed. We have plenty of raw uranium for the foreseeable future, an this lauded amount of Nuclear Waste (I'll just assume the parents declaration of 60,000 tons is correct) wouldn't even come close to filling a single football field (where it stacked in a square).
For going on 70 years of Nuclear Operations, a single football field of waste is pretty damn good compared to the tons of fly ash heaps we've got laying around.