People, it is an illusion that you just can turn stuff off everywhere. You can turn off things up to the level of how the system was designed. And KDE is now designed for over-componentisation, over-information and over-configuration. It needs a consistent narrative. Maybe it will develop one. This is needs something that would be good to turn on, not off.:)
Indeed! Most of them cannot even produce hypertext:)
However, with a bit of work it is possible to make them generate code that is more or less readable for the users.
Anyway, not-so-great readable code is still better than code that is only optimized for computers. Almost not different from going binary. And that is against my understanding of the web's spirit.
What happened to view source, the browser function that build the web?
I think it is not nice to deliver unreadable code to your users. Removed line breaks and indenting spaces, obfuscated javascript variables, automatic changing of meaningful file names to some hash-gibbeish... do not like.
"Vorratsdatenspeicherung" in Germany did essentially the same thing. Good that the constitutional court ruled this law illegal in March this year and all records had to be deleted. But the European Union presses Germany to re-implement another, very similiar law. So the activists have to work EU wide to stop the crap this time.
digiKam has a terrible, clumsy interface. When it comes to tagging it is probably the only software that got this concept more wrong than F-Spot.
Also, the interface is not "slightly different looking", it is designed with quite a different concept. Just look for example at the amount of menu options and their ordering.
(Disclaimer: I have been using digiKam for quite some time. After being annoyed by it to the core for years and some trying i went back to storing images in folders and browsing them in thumbnail view:))
So i "need Firefox for this to work" and that's worse than needing Flash? Well, Firefox works on more platforms than Flash. Problem solved, not by Adobe tho.
Nobody said freedom is easy. You have to make choices all the time. So there is a chance you'll make a mistake.
For some people convenience is more important than freedom and that's okay. There's hardly a chance to make a mistake, but there is the chance of being arsed to the max with the whole thing.
Moste like to have control over something while giving up control over something else. Some people buy microwave food, others grow their own food, some use Linux, some like the iPhone.
Personally i share the vision that personal computers and free information exchange through the internet are amongst the greatest things ever invented. I feel a huge potential is wasted if this technology is dumbed down in the wrong way so that it takes away possibilities as well as responsibilities from the users. That's why i allow myself to complain about things like the iPad. Back in 1995 people were rightfully laughing about Microsoft Bob. In 2010 the iPad is something similiar, just more attractively designed. I think it is a pity that our mothers and grandmothers are given up upon. Probably some will give such devices to their kids in order to save maintainance troubles. Convenient but not a real progress.
Well, even coffee makers today have coffee pad systems. Instead of being able to use any coffee powder or roasted beans i like, i have to buy the correct format from the manufacturer. The whole world is becoming a fucking ink jet printer!!!!
jQuery is NOT for programmers, it's for tools who think they're coding when they lay out HTML.
So what? Who cares about 50 kilobytes of extra data coming down the wire? Probably the logo graphic of your Fortune 300 company uses more bytes.
If your only diffenrentiation from "amateurs" working with jQuery is that you can spare a 50kb download then probably your skillset is not adequate for today's world, dude!
There is no such thing as a correctly priced pay wall. There is only free content and content one should pay for. As long as there is so much free around, nobody is going to bother paying a single penny.
Dude, i have never heard more people argue in favor of Microsoft than when this browser install stupidity was announced.
Anyway, Microsoft also needs to prove that there is competition to their products in order not get rated a monopoly. So they will not buy Opera. That they are secretly funding Opera was a satirical exaggeration i allowed myself to make.
Depending on the data format, you might be able to collaborate with client-side apps and version control with on-line storage. If you can convince your friends or co-workers to use version control.
I am sure Google Docs uses diff as well, and Ghostscript and everything. The good thing about them is they made it into a software i do not have to convince anybody of, it is usable as-is.
If there would be a better alternative, not relying on Google's merits, i would use it immediatly.
You don't need to edit your data in your browser. You don't even need a browser to store your data on-line.
(for binary/non-diffable/non-mergeable data, you might need exclusive per-file locking...)
I know *I* don't need anything fancy for editing stuff, however, everybody else i am collaborating with has seems to have needs different from mine.
AND NEVER MENTION EXCLUSIVE FILE LOCKING AS A SOLUTION AGAIN!!!1;)
If the cloud would only be about data storage there would be no advantage over a Desktop app that saves to my hard drive.
However, Desktop Software is totally behind when it comes to collaboration. I have sent enough "DOCs" around and received them back and edited them again and sent them around again to understand that it sucks badly. I have enough of "can you send me the latest version of..." and welcome online apps to solve this gigantic and ridiculous problem. Of course i would prefer to have Desktop apps that do the same thing, but as it seems at the moment nobody can get their act together and do real time collaborative Editing in a way that is more meaningful than Gobby.:)
Indeed Mashups are not "the future of entertainment", they are just one possible way to create new stuff. When they are presented as a case against current copyright law i think it weakens the point very much.
Code sucks and sucks and will continue to do so. Most CMS's i came across generate awful code and navigation, including Drupal, Wordpress, typo3, joomla or how it is called, they all did very badly "out of the box". You have to put a lot of effort into them to make them produce reasonable sites.
Dreamweaver has a bad history, it was a tool that tried the impossible: To make pixel perfect sites in the age of Netscape 4 and Internet Explorer 5. Maybe it got better, i have seen it has a quite good text editor now. Though nothing Eclipse or any Kate or Gedit can't more or less do. (Integrated FTP client?? Who is still using FTP?)
Of course using it as a WYSWYG tool for web "production" is limiting. Because you cannot "see" everything, most of the things that happen online are not "visible" anyway. Everything will come into a form at one point, but the real design is in the processes that lead to these forms. Dreamweaver encourages to think about the web as "pages" in a catalog you flip through or export from your desktop publishing app.
But as long as "design" onlnie means to put gradients or the latest fashionable graphical style everywhere, Dreamweaver will have its uses. Though there might be better tools for this task, like Fireworks.
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People, it is an illusion that you just can turn stuff off everywhere. You can turn off things up to the level of how the system was designed. And KDE is now designed for over-componentisation, over-information and over-configuration. It needs a consistent narrative. Maybe it will develop one. This is needs something that would be good to turn on, not off. :)
Indeed! Most of them cannot even produce hypertext :)
However, with a bit of work it is possible to make them generate code that is more or less readable for the users.
Anyway, not-so-great readable code is still better than code that is only optimized for computers. Almost not different from going binary. And that is against my understanding of the web's spirit.
What happened to view source, the browser function that build the web?
I think it is not nice to deliver unreadable code to your users. Removed line breaks and indenting spaces, obfuscated javascript variables, automatic changing of meaningful file names to some hash-gibbeish ... do not like.
"Vorratsdatenspeicherung" in Germany did essentially the same thing. Good that the constitutional court ruled this law illegal in March this year and all records had to be deleted. But the European Union presses Germany to re-implement another, very similiar law. So the activists have to work EU wide to stop the crap this time.
Snow Applet is also very good.
People who buy this car don't care too much about bucks.
digiKam has a terrible, clumsy interface. When it comes to tagging it is probably the only software that got this concept more wrong than F-Spot.
Also, the interface is not "slightly different looking", it is designed with quite a different concept. Just look for example at the amount of menu options and their ordering.
(Disclaimer: I have been using digiKam for quite some time. After being annoyed by it to the core for years and some trying i went back to storing images in folders and browsing them in thumbnail view :))
Maybe it will rather make people go to sites that are not plastered with advertisments instead?
The alternative probably being everybody using the same environment :)
Anyway, it's just plain weird that Adobe is claiming requiring Firefox being a problem.
So i "need Firefox for this to work" and that's worse than needing Flash? Well, Firefox works on more platforms than Flash. Problem solved, not by Adobe tho.
"Anyone who equates an office with a toilet should not be designing software." -- Ted Nelson
Nobody said freedom is easy. You have to make choices all the time. So there is a chance you'll make a mistake.
For some people convenience is more important than freedom and that's okay. There's hardly a chance to make a mistake, but there is the chance of being arsed to the max with the whole thing.
Moste like to have control over something while giving up control over something else. Some people buy microwave food, others grow their own food, some use Linux, some like the iPhone.
Personally i share the vision that personal computers and free information exchange through the internet are amongst the greatest things ever invented. I feel a huge potential is wasted if this technology is dumbed down in the wrong way so that it takes away possibilities as well as responsibilities from the users. That's why i allow myself to complain about things like the iPad. Back in 1995 people were rightfully laughing about Microsoft Bob. In 2010 the iPad is something similiar, just more attractively designed. I think it is a pity that our mothers and grandmothers are given up upon. Probably some will give such devices to their kids in order to save maintainance troubles. Convenient but not a real progress.
Well, even coffee makers today have coffee pad systems. Instead of being able to use any coffee powder or roasted beans i like, i have to buy the correct format from the manufacturer. The whole world is becoming a fucking ink jet printer!!!!
jQuery is NOT for programmers, it's for tools who think they're coding when they lay out HTML.
So what? Who cares about 50 kilobytes of extra data coming down the wire? Probably the logo graphic of your Fortune 300 company uses more bytes.
If your only diffenrentiation from "amateurs" working with jQuery is that you can spare a 50kb download then probably your skillset is not adequate for today's world, dude!
There is no such thing as a correctly priced pay wall. There is only free content and content one should pay for. As long as there is so much free around, nobody is going to bother paying a single penny.
I think porting Office to anything should count as sabotage :)
Haha! :)
Dude, i have never heard more people argue in favor of Microsoft than when this browser install stupidity was announced.
Anyway, Microsoft also needs to prove that there is competition to their products in order not get rated a monopoly. So they will not buy Opera. That they are secretly funding Opera was a satirical exaggeration i allowed myself to make.
I think they even might secretly sponsor Opera so that it appears as if there is a competition in the browser market.
Where dem tracks at?? This should be the most authentic gangster music!! Almost sounds like a project vom Weird Al ...
Depending on the data format, you might be able to collaborate with client-side apps and version control with on-line storage. If you can convince your friends or co-workers to use version control.
I am sure Google Docs uses diff as well, and Ghostscript and everything. The good thing about them is they made it into a software i do not have to convince anybody of, it is usable as-is.
If there would be a better alternative, not relying on Google's merits, i would use it immediatly.
You don't need to edit your data in your browser. You don't even need a browser to store your data on-line.
(for binary/non-diffable/non-mergeable data, you might need exclusive per-file locking...)
I know *I* don't need anything fancy for editing stuff, however, everybody else i am collaborating with has seems to have needs different from mine.
AND NEVER MENTION EXCLUSIVE FILE LOCKING AS A SOLUTION AGAIN!!!1 ;)
Dude the main thing is that people click on an icon that shows a diskette!
If the cloud would only be about data storage there would be no advantage over a Desktop app that saves to my hard drive.
However, Desktop Software is totally behind when it comes to collaboration. I have sent enough "DOCs" around and received them back and edited them again and sent them around again to understand that it sucks badly. I have enough of "can you send me the latest version of ..." and welcome online apps to solve this gigantic and ridiculous problem. Of course i would prefer to have Desktop apps that do the same thing, but as it seems at the moment nobody can get their act together and do real time collaborative Editing in a way that is more meaningful than Gobby. :)
Indeed Mashups are not "the future of entertainment", they are just one possible way to create new stuff. When they are presented as a case against current copyright law i think it weakens the point very much.
Dreamweaver is not an architect, it does not really openly make decisions for you.
Code sucks and sucks and will continue to do so. Most CMS's i came across generate awful code and navigation, including Drupal, Wordpress, typo3, joomla or how it is called, they all did very badly "out of the box". You have to put a lot of effort into them to make them produce reasonable sites.
Dreamweaver has a bad history, it was a tool that tried the impossible: To make pixel perfect sites in the age of Netscape 4 and Internet Explorer 5. Maybe it got better, i have seen it has a quite good text editor now. Though nothing Eclipse or any Kate or Gedit can't more or less do. (Integrated FTP client?? Who is still using FTP?)
Of course using it as a WYSWYG tool for web "production" is limiting. Because you cannot "see" everything, most of the things that happen online are not "visible" anyway. Everything will come into a form at one point, but the real design is in the processes that lead to these forms. Dreamweaver encourages to think about the web as "pages" in a catalog you flip through or export from your desktop publishing app.
But as long as "design" onlnie means to put gradients or the latest fashionable graphical style everywhere, Dreamweaver will have its uses. Though there might be better tools for this task, like Fireworks.