Yes there are, and Mono 1.9 is almost there. Unfortunately, Novell don't consider a missing function that affects a real app a reportable bug, as I discovered. o_0
I'd like just ONE journalist to ask Microsoft how many individual Vista installations are pinging Windows Update. They keep trumpeting 150 million licenses shipped, but they know precisely how many of those are in use.
Bugs in such apps are valid and they work hard on fixing them where at all possible. In fact, almost all such apps work just fine.
What tends to happen is that a given area of Win32 is covered to the extent that all apps written with a tool that uses that area then work. So e.g. we're desperately waiting for.NET 2.0 to work properly in Wine.
Wikimedia and Wikia remain good friends with a pile of people in common (I'm one of the few people who's an admin both on Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia, for instance), but nevertheless operate completely separately.
"This is something I've always looked at with a wondering if there might not be a financial conflict of interest by Mr. Wales and his association with the WMF for policies like this."
Good luck with that. Let me know how you make out with it.
It's OSS all the way through as far as is reasonably possible. Some bits are written in Java (the Lucene search), a couple of Toolserver machines run Solaris, there's a lot of Macs in the WMF office.
Single database, though. All the databases for all the projects are in Tampa - one master for English Wikipedia and two for all the other 700+ Wikimedia projects.
(They tried running the databases for Asian languages from the Yahoo!-sponsored datacentre in Seoul for a while, but it didn't actually work much faster than it did with everything in Tampa.)
No, actually - the Wikimedia servers serve all Wikimedia projects (all the Wikipedias, Wikimedia Commons, all the other projects), but Uncyclopedia is part of Wikia, which is a private company owned by Jimmy Wales to do wikis and isn't actually linked to the Wikimedia Foundation in any way.
"It would be great to see more of this kind of thing."
Contact the developers of FOSS/freeware/shareware apps for Windows and ask them to advertise their stuff works under Wine, if it does. And if it doesn't, work with them to get it to!
In my experience, developers of open source Windows apps, and even shareware or freeware Windows apps, are keenly interested in working to make their app work better on Wine (e.g. 1, 2 for VirtualDub) - open source and freeware developers because they like to make their programs better, shareware because it increases their market. It's worth asking them to declare Wine a supported platform.
No, it's incompleteness as well;-) Lack of support for some recent popular subsystems like.NET 2.0, a lot of stuff produced with VC++8, etc. But older Windows crapware works surprisingly well on it.
With XP sticking around for years, Windows has become less of a moving target as well.
The main use of Wine is for that old piece of Windows crapware you rely on and you can't even find the developers, let alone ask them to free it. "If only this one app would run on Linux, I could move..." With Wine, they can.
The catch there is that AV companies are selling a service - you're paying for that daily update file to catch the newest piece of toxic waste that came out a day ago. Microsoft would LOVE that model, if only they had something to sell every day.
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Yes there are, and Mono 1.9 is almost there. Unfortunately, Novell don't consider a missing function that affects a real app a reportable bug, as I discovered. o_0
Yeah, you can use traces to show when it's trying to access a particular DLL.
You should probably stop by the forum with app-specific questions, devs there will suggest how to give enough info for a usable bug report.
This is something they're specifically working their arses off to achieve, particularly the Wine contributors at Google.
I'd like just ONE journalist to ask Microsoft how many individual Vista installations are pinging Windows Update. They keep trumpeting 150 million licenses shipped, but they know precisely how many of those are in use.
VirtualDub is an open source application written to Win32. Rather than port it, the developer simply declared Wine a supported platform.
File more and clearer bugs and they'll have more to work with!
Per the FAQ, it'll leave Wine as the best way to run twenty years of Windows crapware. It's about the apps, not the platform.
Wine 1.0 works well on Eee and its clones ;-p
Bugs in such apps are valid and they work hard on fixing them where at all possible. In fact, almost all such apps work just fine.
What tends to happen is that a given area of Win32 is covered to the extent that all apps written with a tool that uses that area then work. So e.g. we're desperately waiting for .NET 2.0 to work properly in Wine.
Got any links for this stuff? Sounds like impetus for the the Wine for Cygwin project!
Wikimedia and Wikia remain good friends with a pile of people in common (I'm one of the few people who's an admin both on Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia, for instance), but nevertheless operate completely separately.
"This is something I've always looked at with a wondering if there might not be a financial conflict of interest by Mr. Wales and his association with the WMF for policies like this."
Good luck with that. Let me know how you make out with it.
Wikipedia: the site that slashdots itself!
It's OSS all the way through as far as is reasonably possible. Some bits are written in Java (the Lucene search), a couple of Toolserver machines run Solaris, there's a lot of Macs in the WMF office.
Single database, though. All the databases for all the projects are in Tampa - one master for English Wikipedia and two for all the other 700+ Wikimedia projects.
(They tried running the databases for Asian languages from the Yahoo!-sponsored datacentre in Seoul for a while, but it didn't actually work much faster than it did with everything in Tampa.)
No, actually - the Wikimedia servers serve all Wikimedia projects (all the Wikipedias, Wikimedia Commons, all the other projects), but Uncyclopedia is part of Wikia, which is a private company owned by Jimmy Wales to do wikis and isn't actually linked to the Wikimedia Foundation in any way.
It's not the content, it's the live leeching. Mirrors are supposed to use the database dumps (now that those are updating more frequently *cough*).
And live feeds are in fact a service the WMF sells. Because they cost!
Buying Crossover is an excellent way to directly support the Wine project - they donate a lot of the code and directly employ a lot of the developers.
"It would be great to see more of this kind of thing."
Contact the developers of FOSS/freeware/shareware apps for Windows and ask them to advertise their stuff works under Wine, if it does. And if it doesn't, work with them to get it to!
In my experience, developers of open source Windows apps, and even shareware or freeware Windows apps, are keenly interested in working to make their app work better on Wine (e.g. 1, 2 for VirtualDub) - open source and freeware developers because they like to make their programs better, shareware because it increases their market. It's worth asking them to declare Wine a supported platform.
You running WP Cache? It's extremely nice and very efficient.
No, it's incompleteness as well ;-) Lack of support for some recent popular subsystems like .NET 2.0, a lot of stuff produced with VC++8, etc. But older Windows crapware works surprisingly well on it.
With XP sticking around for years, Windows has become less of a moving target as well.
The main use of Wine is for that old piece of Windows crapware you rely on and you can't even find the developers, let alone ask them to free it. "If only this one app would run on Linux, I could move ..." With Wine, they can.
This is true. Old Windows binaries usually work flawlessly on Wine however!
The catch there is that AV companies are selling a service - you're paying for that daily update file to catch the newest piece of toxic waste that came out a day ago. Microsoft would LOVE that model, if only they had something to sell every day.