2.It is not our/your internet! It is everyones Internet! If the internet has "dumbed down" then it is just appealing to the masses.
IUt is not everyones internet. The internet was funded by business for business and is supported and enhanced by business and for business. You are an invited guest here, mind your manners.
The dumbing down is done by the masses, but it is neither wanted nor promoted. The internet gets it's legs from the billions in capital business (mostly US) provide for their benefit, not yours. Pr0n, Joe sixpack's dog pics and AOL crap are just unwanted byproducts.
Good peice Jon. Although I don't think the label "corporate" is all that accurate. Let me explain, prior to the flames arriving.. . First off, the whole thing is summed up in your one sentance.
We should acknowledge that economics matters (a lot), but it can't be society's only common goal.
Economics do matter, however greed is what is now driving our society and for large part our economic policy as well. Not to be a tree hugging democrate, but it wasn't till recently that I honestly thought about what was important to me in my life. Turn out it wasn't money. Granted we all need it to survive, but for the longest time that was the goal. More and more money.
It's not that way for me anymore. I make a good living and am not about to go and sign up for communism, it's just my kids and family and "quality" of life mean more to me than money. It's nice to have a little serenity.
This leads me back to my original point. There is no such thing as "Society's common goal" society is made up of individuals. The individual who think making more money will make then happier just out number the ones who don't. These individuals are paid to make their comanies money, specifically to make money for the investors. (more greedy people). It's an endless cycle. To bad there is only so much money to go around. This creates they "I'll crush anyone to get ahead" syndrome, (M$) and it'snot healthy for the society, the economy or individually.
That seems like a stretch. I can't see NASA making a sail to withstand much of anything. (no flame intended) Space debris travels quite fast and would pass right on through prettymuch anything we could manufacture, especially something as delicate as the proposed sail.
And they're not all that rare. How do you base your assumption that we could go 15 years with a good chance of not hitting anything? At those speeds and for a full 15 years, chances seem pretty good that the craft will hit something sooner or later.
I'd do the same thing what? Pay for the Hotmail registration?, yeah, propably so. Get legal with a site like/. for discussions on my products? Maybe., However I believe that M$ is just hiding behind the DMCA et all, I think it would be a better move for them (PR wise) if they were a little more delicate about it and handled it with a touch more tact. They know what/. is, how it works and what the culture is like. The knew the response they would get. I don'tknow why they'd do it. If they were really so upset and wanted to get propriatary information out of the wild, they should be looking at Atttrition, HNN and the like.
I liked the Hotmail reference, considering it's been down quite a bit lately. Hey, and BTW, what a crapy thing for M$ to do. Speaking of Hotmail, wasn't it a/. poster that paid for the domain registration when it expired on Christmas day? He was reading/. and there was a thread about it being down, so he clicked over to NS and paid with his card.
Ya know, this is really ironic, M$ standing in full support (read hiding behind) the DMCA. I seem to recall a time not too long ago that one up and coming company ripped off a GUI and it's architecture from another company then marketed it into a jaggernaught product. The main defense the perpetrating company used was in direct oposition to everything the DMCA stands for. My how things have changed.
Now how in the world would this be physically possible with our current understanding of physics? Not meant as a flame, I actually agree with your post, but isn't the ring being physically possible pushing it a little?
LMAO! Very funny. TM your songs have improved much over the last few weeks. Although you seem to be stuck in the late 60's and early 70's, Your showing your age a little.
About their only import is electricity. What in the world would they spend it on? They could each buy a new car, but with no gas all they would be able to do is push them around the yard.
Tuvalu is a little string of Islands, governed by the British. Since I didn't know anything about them, I looked them up on Google. Not much to tell, sort of like a little Fiji. If your interested there is a fact sheet Here.
With a cool 50M, the great nation of Tuvalu will now be able to buy that used state of the art 1940 Corsair and roll it down the hill and crash it into the attacking enemy armed with rocks and sticks. Heck, If I were Tuvalu, with a mean average income per person of around 20 bucks US a year, 50M will go a long way. Most of Tuvalu doesn't have power or running water anyway, so what would they need a TLD for anyway.
OpenBSD is absolutely the choice for me. Sure it has some problems, any SW product will. But with OpenBSD I get a relatively secure environment right from day one. I don't need to have our admins spend weeks implementing bolt-on's to make the environment fairly bulletproof. The only disapointment I have using OpenBSD is that it is very basic. However that is one of the things that our admins love about it. Less bells and whistles means less stuff to break.
Plain and simple, I think this is a dumb idea. Odd twist being 180 degrees out from security through obscurity, but still off the mark. A real life example would be to walk down the street in a crimeridden neighborhood looking like an easy target, then when you get mugged, shouting "I got you" "I got you!" and pulling out a gun and holfding them until the police arrived.
Wouldn't a better approach be, if you had to be in the neighborhood, pick a route that provides the path of least resistance? Then go through the neighborhood in a car, with a couple of people with you etc.
Entrapment is entrapment, frankly I wouldn't want to put my firm through the headaches in the first place.
S. 2092 is a senate bill allowing the govt to expand it's prying capability to bypass current wiretap laws by allowing the fbi to put trojans on your workstation to facilitate the tracking of would be 31337 haxors and the like, all in a supposed effort to combat DoS attacks and such. Problem is, they don't siscriminate between the bad guys and everyone else.
I agree with you, but only to a point. I really liked the phrase "
wether or not the freedom of the Internet jeopardizes the freedom to USE the Internet"
Very eloquent and accurate.
On the other hand, your flame was rather insulting,
Whenever someone moans about "the Feds", I have to ask what the hell are YOU (yes, you) doing about it? Are you expecting someone else to step in and solve these problems?
Who the hell am I? Well for starters I'm an over 40 PHB who lives in the US and has been on the net since the old days, pre 1980. My entire career for the last 20+ years has been the internet, starting long before GUIs. What the hell am I doing about it? Plenty, you should be as well. All of us should, not just because it's our livelyhood, because it's our privacy and our basic freedoms as well. Personally, I have regular dialog with many elected officials on many different levels. I'm no stranger to the telecom lobbists or in my Representetive or Senators offices on capital hill and my state capital. I support the Electronic Frontier Foundation , Global Internet Liberty Campaign (GILC), Internet Free Expression Alliance (IFEA), Digital Future Coalition (DFC), and the TRUSTe Privacy Policy Certification Program as well as several others both monetarily and with my time. Do you?
Am I expecting someone else to step in and solve these problems? No, I am involved, are you?
Although you had a good point in your post, I feel the impact of it got lost in the flames, instead of flaming posters on/., try using some of that effort to get the laws and the policy changed, you might be surprised at what one person can do.
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IUt is not everyones internet. The internet was funded by business for business and is supported and enhanced by business and for business. You are an invited guest here, mind your manners.
The dumbing down is done by the masses, but it is neither wanted nor promoted. The internet gets it's legs from the billions in capital business (mostly US) provide for their benefit, not yours. Pr0n, Joe sixpack's dog pics and AOL crap are just unwanted byproducts.
We should acknowledge that economics matters (a lot), but it can't be society's only common goal.
Economics do matter, however greed is what is now driving our society and for large part our economic policy as well. Not to be a tree hugging democrate, but it wasn't till recently that I honestly thought about what was important to me in my life. Turn out it wasn't money. Granted we all need it to survive, but for the longest time that was the goal. More and more money.
It's not that way for me anymore. I make a good living and am not about to go and sign up for communism, it's just my kids and family and "quality" of life mean more to me than money. It's nice to have a little serenity.
This leads me back to my original point. There is no such thing as "Society's common goal" society is made up of individuals. The individual who think making more money will make then happier just out number the ones who don't. These individuals are paid to make their comanies money, specifically to make money for the investors. (more greedy people). It's an endless cycle. To bad there is only so much money to go around. This creates they "I'll crush anyone to get ahead" syndrome, (M$) and it'snot healthy for the society, the economy or individually.
Again I enjoyed the article,
Regards,
-ttm
And they're not all that rare. How do you base your assumption that we could go 15 years with a good chance of not hitting anything? At those speeds and for a full 15 years, chances seem pretty good that the craft will hit something sooner or later.
I'd do the same thing what? Pay for the Hotmail registration?, yeah, propably so. Get legal with a site like /. for discussions on my products? Maybe., However I believe that M$ is just hiding behind the DMCA et all, I think it would be a better move for them (PR wise) if they were a little more delicate about it and handled it with a touch more tact. They know what /. is, how it works and what the culture is like. The knew the response they would get. I don'tknow why they'd do it. If they were really so upset and wanted to get propriatary information out of the wild, they should be looking at Atttrition, HNN and the like.
Some gratitude.
Ya know, this is really ironic, M$ standing in full support (read hiding behind) the DMCA. I seem to recall a time not too long ago that one up and coming company ripped off a GUI and it's architecture from another company then marketed it into a jaggernaught product. The main defense the perpetrating company used was in direct oposition to everything the DMCA stands for. My how things have changed.
So how does one sue AC?
I agree, very eloquent with a subtle undertone of flame. Good job Rob!
Hey, at least they're visiting the site.:) I wonder if the M$ guys have accounts?
Sour grapes. They're just having a bad month and needed to take it out on someone.
Didn't look at it that way. Thanks. I was thinking more in fabric terms.
Now how in the world would this be physically possible with our current understanding of physics? Not meant as a flame, I actually agree with your post, but isn't the ring being physically possible pushing it a little?
Thank you for not spilling the beans, That would be like finding out that Darth Vader wasn't really James Earl Jones.
Keep it up!
LMAO! Very funny. TM your songs have improved much over the last few weeks. Although you seem to be stuck in the late 60's and early 70's, Your showing your age a little.
There are 6, look at the "OF"'s.
About their only import is electricity. What in the world would they spend it on? They could each buy a new car, but with no gas all they would be able to do is push them around the yard.
Tuvalu is a little string of Islands, governed by the British. Since I didn't know anything about them, I looked them up on Google. Not much to tell, sort of like a little Fiji. If your interested there is a fact sheet Here.
OpenBSD is absolutely the choice for me. Sure it has some problems, any SW product will. But with OpenBSD I get a relatively secure environment right from day one. I don't need to have our admins spend weeks implementing bolt-on's to make the environment fairly bulletproof. The only disapointment I have using OpenBSD is that it is very basic. However that is one of the things that our admins love about it. Less bells and whistles means less stuff to break.
Wouldn't a better approach be, if you had to be in the neighborhood, pick a route that provides the path of least resistance? Then go through the neighborhood in a car, with a couple of people with you etc.
Entrapment is entrapment, frankly I wouldn't want to put my firm through the headaches in the first place.
Aurora and Borin Alice
S. 2092 is a senate bill allowing the govt to expand it's prying capability to bypass current wiretap laws by allowing the fbi to put trojans on your workstation to facilitate the tracking of would be 31337 haxors and the like, all in a supposed effort to combat DoS attacks and such. Problem is, they don't siscriminate between the bad guys and everyone else.
wether or not the freedom of the Internet jeopardizes the freedom to USE the Internet "
Very eloquent and accurate.
On the other hand, your flame was rather insulting,
Whenever someone moans about "the Feds", I have to ask what the hell are YOU (yes, you) doing about it? Are you expecting someone else to step in and solve these problems?
Who the hell am I? Well for starters I'm an over 40 PHB who lives in the US and has been on the net since the old days, pre 1980. My entire career for the last 20+ years has been the internet, starting long before GUIs.
What the hell am I doing about it? Plenty, you should be as well. All of us should, not just because it's our livelyhood, because it's our privacy and our basic freedoms as well. Personally, I have regular dialog with many elected officials on many different levels. I'm no stranger to the telecom lobbists or in my Representetive or Senators offices on capital hill and my state capital. I support the Electronic Frontier Foundation , Global Internet Liberty Campaign (GILC), Internet Free Expression Alliance (IFEA), Digital Future Coalition (DFC), and the TRUSTe Privacy Policy Certification Program as well as several others both monetarily and with my time. Do you?
Am I expecting someone else to step in and solve these problems? No, I am involved, are you?
Although you had a good point in your post, I feel the impact of it got lost in the flames, instead of flaming posters on /., try using some of that effort to get the laws and the policy changed, you might be surprised at what one person can do.