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Linux Beer Hike 2000
troc writes: Here's the "info on this year's Linux Beer Hike sponsored by SuSE (and others).
It's a European event, where Linux users wander around a nice hilly area, drink beer and exercise their minds of an evening doing Linuxy stuff. " I wanted to go last year, but my flabby ass probably
shouldn't be goin' on ye old hacker hike ;)
No eclipse this year. :-(
Next year are they gonna head for southern Africa to try to catch the eclipse again?
I know I'm gonna try to be there for it, but don't particularly want to travel there on my own. So if there's a LBW connected with it I'd consider joining.
The best I've had is Killians Irish Red. It's pretty stout, and fsckin' good.
Good? It's fabulous! (And what I'm drinking right now!)
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Corona == beered down water
That sounds really, really cool!
I'd better start saving up now...
I'm out of my tree just now but please feel free to leave a banana.
not after they've drunk beer :-)
I'm out of my tree just now but please feel free to leave a banana.
It is. It is illegal to buy beer in a pub if you're under 18, illegal to consume it if you're under 18, to buy it for someone who is under 18 or to attempt to buy it if you're under 18 or for someone who is.
It's best not to try. the fine is 400 pounds, and the pub can loose its license.
But you're right, they're far less puritanical about alcohol over here than in the USA.
I'm out of my tree just now but please feel free to leave a banana.
Ummm... it _IS_ in England. In the Lake District.
I was in Minneapolis and then Philadelphia in ....
January and discovered to my delight that Sam Adams seems to be available on tap in lots of bars in the States these days. Speaking as someone who
takes his beer seriously, I would say that's a good start. I really can't manage to get the Bud/Coors/Schlitz (sp?) stuff down my throat, it's not what I would call a real beer. Can't say I'm a big fan of Corona either, but on a very hot day at a ball game it would be acceptable. Of course over here, we drink the stuff at cellar temperature and I find that beer chilled to US temperatures is already off on a losing streak
I don't know if things have changed in the past ten years, but when I was in Germany, beers were typically served at just below room temp...cool at best. And they didn't taste "terrible" at all but quite tasty, as a matter of fact.
A joke among the Germans is that Americans drink their beers cold in order to hide the taste.
Personally, I believe there are no bad beers...just some are better than others.
-john
pronoblem
-PeptoBismol (litres).
-Notebook w/extra batteries.
-Linux CD's
-TUX Tatoo
-Beer
-GPS (just for holding something electronic while you hike)
-Gb's of MP3's (have you ever noted that suddenly there's silence and you hear a guy asking "Did someone bring some music?"
-Power Adapters (You never got one of them when on the road)
-Tools (It's frustrating trying to open a notebook with a knife)
-A signed note from your family were they certify their understanding of what means "Linuxbierwanderung".
Why should the Europeans have all the fun? I say
we have our own!
Mmmm!!!
We'll get a bunch of Linux people together and wander around in the dirt fields for a while. (Dirt farming really *is* an actual occupation here, seriously)
Then we'll drink some 3.2 Okie beer, take a whiz, and go home with a headache and a sunburn.
It's hard to walk for long in a pair of cowboy boots though.
Someone on this hike drink some Sharps for me and explain in great detail what it tasted like.
(UK Sharps != US Sharps)
(...cont...for you UK'ers who don't get that, Sharps here is a non-alky 'beer'....shameful.)
(ObUK-USBeerStory: When I was over there about 3 years ago, in a pub on Lizard point, some poor sod was drinking *US* Budweiser. Discuss.)
Blech. Signatures.
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Mmmmm, cheap wine. I can appreciate a $2.50 bottle of wine with a twist off cap. Especialy when you read the fine print and see that it's not really wine, it's a "fine malt beverage". Of course, good beer still tastes way better, but there's nothing like an evening with some friends where everyone gets a bottle of three of cheap ass wine.
itachi
Dude, Pilsner Urquell is THE pilsner. There is no other pilsner that can compare, the rest are (literally, since Pilsner Urquell was the first pilsner) poor imitations. But good beer can be found in the US, you just have to look harder. Victory makes some good stuff, and Bert Grant's, and in Cleveland there's Great Lakes, and they make a wicked good Dortmunder. Suprisingly, there is good american beer made in bulk - there's a hefe-weissen made by Miller (iirc) that is way good, too. But the best way to go, wherever you are, is local beer, which is why Philly rocks for beer (Victory, Yards, and a few dozen small brew pubs).
itachi, who could use a nice pint of Mackeson Milk Stout right now...
There may be pilsner you like better, but there's a reason that it's called Urquell. It's the first. It literally the pilsner that all of the others are trying to emulate. Though truth be told, pretty much any really good pilsner is good enough for me. Anyone near Philly should try both the Stoudt's and Victory pilsners. Yum.
itachi
Beer in the Czech Republic is as good as Austria, and it's usually about US$0.07 per pint (In touristy area, you'll pay up to 50-cents...)
Plus the Czechs are hiking maniacs... every trail is marked incredibly well, so that even the most drunken Penguin can find her way from town to town...
"Just follow the markers, you can't get lost", say the Czech.
Hmmm... "LinuxPivo Jit Pesky"
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If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem
Personally, Bemidji is much more scenic. It could also be done at Itasca SP. Hang out at the headwaters of the Mississippi, talk Linux, drink a little and thank god that none of us actually brought snowshoes!
-Vel
P.S. Its even closer to the geek compound than England so perhaps CT and Hemos could make it.
I'd love to have a Dortmunder Dark right about now...
Do you have any suggestions for beer available in the US. What's your favorite? Since I've always lived in the US and American beer is all I know, I don't have much to compare it with. I haven't tried every kind available, but of those I have, I like Corona the best.
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I've got a great idea -- how about a Linux Snowshoeing Hike in Minnesota? :^)
It could be a walk along the Minnesota and Mississippi rivers, with a stop for some delicious (better than German) beers at the Summit brewery in St. Paul, or maybe the Town Hall brewpub in Minneapolis?
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Typical attitude of the folk in St. Paul. No wonder I like living in Minneapolis, the City of Lakes, not St. Paul, the City of Fakes... :^) -jk-
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Dare I be so bold as to say I live in Lowry Hill East, a.k.a. "The Wedge"? The store is actually in Whittier, which is on the wrong side of Lyndale, but maybe I'm being too picky.
Anyway... I'm game, so if you or anyone else in the Twin Cities metro is seriously interested in kicking back a pint or two in St. Paul, my home email address is champs@visi.com.au -- I don't live in Australia, of course, so drop the ".au" to mail me.
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OK, so since I got 2 responses to this slightly off-topic post, I suppose I should explain myself:
Heiniken = good beer (green bottle gets plusses) you can drink & get drunk off easily enough
Corona = good beer for sitting outside bullshitting on a warm sunny day
Olde English 800 = best in the bullet 40oz bottles. great malt liquor for a roudy-ass drunk. good music to listen to during drinking - rap
Steel Reserve = great in 36oz cans & 40oz bottles. another great malt liquor as OE 800
I think for the beer hike, however, something else should be drank. A lighter beer that doesn't weigh down the stomach but gets you fucked up.
Eruantalon
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I don't know how you Americans can drink that crap you dare call the same name
Neither can I, and I'm an American. Most Amer. beer is crap. Guiness, however, tastes like tar. Corona, Heiniken - these are good beers. Of course, nothing can beat hard liquor, Olde English 800, or Steel Reserve. Plus, there's something to be said for having a beer bottle/can that you can use to beat the hell outta someone when it's empty.
Eruantalon
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The Annals of Middle-earth
But I *really* like Schlitz. Not the "bull" Schlitz, or the 'ice' variety, but good old fashioned, gold and purple canned beer that made Milwaukee famous, "just the kiss of the hops" Schlitz. For roughly $2.49 a 6 pack I get more flavor and buzz than anything else domestic.
...5 years from now everyone will be running free GNU on their 200 MIPS, 64M SPARCstation-5.
The only thing I've found close is a German beer that came in a clay jar called "Bock Im Stein"...of course that was $6.00 a jar (also one of those flattened you, guess that's why it's a "bock").
Anyway, I just thought I'd pop in real quick and plug my favorite unpretentious beer. If you ever have an extra 2 and a half to spend, stop on my the A&P and pick one up.
Ja, shoor, yoo betcha!
Dis Scandinavian says, "Uff-da, dat Windows shoor sucks, dere."
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Also, I have never met _anyone_ who eats baked beans for breakfast, ever. Everyone I know has some combination of cereal, toast, orange juice and/or coffee. Admittedly sometimes I have a bacon sandwich at the weekend.
Hey, design a poster and we'll hang it up all over Eugene, OR. Most of my friends and neighbors got gassed in Seattle, and last year during the meeting of the G-7 (or G-7+ or G-8) in an impromptu riot.
I wonder how long it would take to hitchike to the East Coast.
I do what the voices on my console tell me to do.
This got offtopic? I thought it was quite funny.
Allright! But is the beer free? (as in... er, well, beer..)
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I so pleased this is coming to the UK (it means I should be able to go) I really like to things like this that happen in europe (most on the mainland unforutantly) They're a real community thing, and the few I been to have always left me feeling part of a wider community. It's also cool to meet in person some of the people you only contact by mail. Oh, and there's the beer........
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It is in England... You're too right about that loverly beer though, I don't know how you Americans can drink that crap you dare call the same name, mind I wouldn't mind going to the Czech republic to try the beer there.
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More race stuff in one place,
than any one place on the net.
Doesn't sound...possible. A Linux beer LAN party, yes. A Linux beer poker night, maybe. A Linux beer-keg night complete with strippers wearing Tux panties and a couple of dozen coffeepots for the aftermath, most definitely. But I've never seen a hacker/geek do any more exercise than is neccessary to get around in life, let alone for fun...
-You're wearing...A bag? I have misplaced my pants.
The best I've had is Killians Irish Red. It's pretty stout, and fsckin' good.
and now a brief list of beers that suck:
Dennis Leary said it best when he said "Pete's wicked brew...Pete's wicked summer brew. Who the hell is Pete, FUCK PETE."
Munky_v2
"Warning: You are logged into reality as root..."
Jay
beer makes people nice, relaxed and friendly. beer perfectly mixes with linux. feed beer to pinguins!
Too bad It's far away.
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This isn't supposed to be Extreme Hiking or something, most of the people who are gonna be there will probably be horribly out of shape.
I want to go, but I'm an American teenager...
That's it. I'm no longer part of Team Sanity.
There is going to be a BeOS crack hike in downtown L.A. this saturday. Be there and bring your pipes, it'll be fun!
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The real question about Linux beer is would you be able to GPL it? Imagine having several thousand people tinkering with your recipe for homebrew, multiple variations on on recipe. I almost like the idea *GRIN*
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Ragnarok is at hand...
that beer and hiking are such a good combo? I mean, sounds fun, but usually for me it starts out beer and hiking, winds up beer and lying on the floor. Maybe it's just me.
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i normally give ppl lots of leeway in t heir beleifs but all I have to say about this is: F |_| C | RZ like you should be shot into space, with no atmosphere.
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Wait a minute now you're treading into my area of expertise. I may not be the worlds greatest hacker, but I know Czech beer and Pilsner Urquell is not the best Czech beer. Staro Brno is by far the best Czech pilsner.
The mountains of the Lake District may be small (although really not much smaller than those of Wales or Scotland) but they are still real mountains - exposed barren rock, extremes of climate and steep and unforgiving terrain - belittle them at your peril.
Nick
PS For those who are interested, the route in the piccie is Shadowfax on Scafell, E4 (about 5.11d on the US scale)
-- "It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park" - Jim Moran
Here in the Bay Area, my favorites are Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Anchor Steam beer. Beer that are definitely distinctive in taste and WAY superior to that p*** called Budweiser. ;-)
Raymond in Mountain View, CA
...would be Belgium? It's not as hilly, so less strenuous for unfit geeks. Plus they have great beer. Lots of styles, most of them very alcoholic. German beer, while better than the piss that Americans apparently enjoy drinking, gets a little samey after a few liters.
Or better yet, England. Gentle, rolling hills, and the best beer in the world.
Disclaimer: I was born in England, but live in Minnesota. Don't anyone suggest a Linux Showshoeing Hike.
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OK, have at least one other participant for this.
Should be using the Auberges, such as Formule1, Balladins, Climat de France, Etap, Ibis, Nuit d'Hotel in addition to other accomodations.
Will be checking with a number of French friends for people who live along the route. Croissants, cafes, vin. Might start with train visit to Champagne before the biking too (optional).
Will check with my film friends as to invites for events at Cannes towards end of trip. Need to get schedule for that part.
Will in Seattle
Since I lack tattoos and metal apparati protruding from my body, this event would be probably be out of my social umbrella. I would pay for a stripper to show up just to watch the reaction from a bunch of drunk hackers.
"I can code a kernel but this bra strap is beyond me".
If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem
Ja, vell, admittin' dat yur livin in Minnesota vasn't too smart eeder. Now yoo'll hav all dose Scandinavian hackers stoppin by an sayin "Hallo! Ain't Linux great!"
>;)
-Vel
Disclaimer: I don't need a Bork translator.
Although Linux-branded beer would be an interesting idea.
I hate posting the same link twice in one day, but it's Friday so what the hell...
If they can sell Linux-branded underwear, then I'm sure there must be a market for Linux-branded beer. Oh what I wouldn't give to be in Tux's position right now...
numb
PS: I know there are some reasonably good beers in the US too, I was being melodramatic.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Hiking, drinking beer, talking about shit - this sounds like one hell of a way to spend some time. However, I suppose I'd get sick of walking around with people talking in script kiddie speak or about stuff I have no idea about/understand/care about. I'd guess if I went with a few friends, it'd be fun as hell.
Eruantalon
Eruantalon
The Annals of Middle-earth
I've gotta come to the defence of Guiness here ;)
It's not beer, it's Stout,...
Stout (und thus Guinness) IS a beer. Compare http://beerhunter.com/beerstyles.html.
Of course, the guinness, served here in the US does differentiate in taste from the original guinness quite a lot, I've been told. I don't know about guinness, but Beck's (also a beer, though a Pilsener) for example DOES taste quite different in the US than it does in Germany.
Unfortunately for me, the americans seem to prefer ale and lager (both beer's as well) to Pilsener, so that beck's had to adjust their beer to the american market.
Heineken is ok over here, not much better or worse than in the Netherlands and probably the best Pilsener you can get in the US is Pilsener Urquell.
I find it importantto mention that the *original* Budweiser, a czech Pilsener, is a _delicous_ beer, while the beer commonly known under the name "Budweiser" is HORSEPISS!
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Hiking?
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
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Drinking and coding is bad news: look what it did to Cox and the Linux kernel!
Although the DOS compatibility is a nice side-effect, after kicking back a few... I guess...
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Read the page. It says you should have an interest in at least one of the following: Beer, Linux, or hiking. I'm sure you qualify for the first two...(definately the second). Besides, who needs hiking when there's a crowd of drunk Linux enthusiasts!
Eric
I'm thinking of getting together with some people in mid-April 2001 to bike through France. Source book is France By Bike (pub by The Mountaineers), routes 5, 6, 7, and 8. Start in Paris (Versailles), out to the coast (Chinon), down to Burdeaux, across France to end up at Avignon. Time will be about four weeks, basically a segment a week.
Object: to start with easy biking, get drunk on good wine, visit cafes, cherchez les femmes (et pour les femmes de geek, les hommes), and end up at Cannes ready to enjoy the beach. The last week will be a killer, but if you want an easy ride, the first three segments are easy.
Laptops encouraged, but de rigeur stops at Cyber Cafes and Hacker Havens.
If interested, email affleckasch.w.spam@ghc.spam.org but forget the spam. Don't anticipating doing as much Linux as the Beirwanderleung, as we'll be busy chasing French women. Possible side train trip to Barcelona for a couple of days.
Will in Seattle
From the website:
Accommodation will be in Hotels, B&B, Youth Hostels or camp sites. You make your own booking at the place of your choice.
The Lake District is a beautiful place, and therefore is innundated with tourists during the summer. So many people go there that the (very narrow) roads are often jammed and accomodation is hard to come by. So if you're thinking of going, try to book your accomodation NOW (or as soon as possible).
HH
Yellow tigers crouched in jungles in her dark eyes.
Yellow tigers crouched in jungles in her dark eyes.
She's just dressing, goodbye windows, tired starlings.
Will they card you in the UK? They won't in the other European countries I've been to. Admittedly, I've mucked about mostly in eastern Europe, but they're much looser about drinking over there. Comes from not being founded by a bunch of fucking puritans!
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
You know why American beer is like having sex in a canoe? Its fu*king close to water. HA!
hmmmmmmmm, beer - Homer Simpson
Pair up in threes. - Yogi Berra
Just a clarification, this year's Linuxbierwanderung is in England, not Germany as someone else posted earlier.
The beer hike is going to be based in the village of Coniston in the Lake District -- this is about halfway up the country on the Western border.
England is such a perfect place for this event. I hope to attend. We may even be able to catch some soccer -- The European Championships are this summer, and the national team may have a few qualifying matches at home while we are there...
Also, don't forget the tasty British beer!
See you there! (I hope)     :-)
------- "One of the joys of travel is visiting new towns and meeting new people." -- G. KHAN
Please find me the group of linux users who aren't too fat, too skinny, too cracked out on mountain dew, without problems with their ring fingers(hitting ls too much), not too busy trying to get their chip to 833Mhz instead of 800Mhz, not too busy trying to promote linux as an embedded solutions product when assembly code is 1000x more efficient(has anybody ported linux to the HC11 anyway?), not too busy to do anything else because they are always recompiling their kernel, and also somebody who doesn't talk in run-on sentences like me, and let me know if that group has a number of people above 0. Why do people like me have to take the blame for tech stocks going up and down also? Personally, I hate "dot-coms." Profit from the net will come for business-to-business, not this business-to-whoever-I-can-find. I'm an electrical and computer engineering major and so many times I see people missing the point of the internet for commerce(uh oh, set myself up for a flame here). Does anybody really care about www.watchmecrap.com? Of course not! But so many people are investing in this junk. First in the new economy we need a sense of reality about what Americans need and will buy. Engineers like myself NEED to make products that have SIMPLE user interfaces and don't require a lot of computer science to finish. A window manager on top of linux is just about as bad as windows on top of DOS. Granted, the linux version is much more stable, but can the AVERAGE user figure it out? The problem with Windows is that people don't understand how the registry works. However, the problem with linux is that people don't understand how anything works. We as a computing society need to provide the average user with an interface for linux that works as a GOOD link to the net, a GOOD gaming system, a GREAT application environment for word processing, spreadsheets, and other dumb stuff that I don't use. But anyway, I think that my original point is that many linux people should go out and get some sun because I'm sure that the majority of us are pale and white, the only tan we have is coming from a bunch of flourescent lighting. Yikes, what I just wrote is disorganized and not totally what i mean, but it has some good juicy bits of stuff to debate about. Have fun!
maybe someone could wear a webcam, notebook & cell phone so the rest of us can participate virtually.
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It depends on the British beer.
Remember, many British beers uses yeast that ferments at the top of the barrel, so this means the fermenting process can occur at around room temperature (20 degrees Celsius). As a result, you drink British beer at around wine cellar temperature (10-12 degrees Celsius).
German beer (which most of the world is familiar with) ferments at the bottom of the barrel, so this means the fermenting process has to work at nearly the freezing temperature of water (around 2-4 degrees Celsius). That's why you drink it at refrigerator temperatures, and American beers are that way because the American beer companies were all founded by people of German descent.
Try the St. Pauli Girl, Spaten or Beck's that is brewed in Germany for European consumption; they have to be served cold or it tastes terrible.
Raymond in Mountain View, CA
England?
Try Scotland or Wales, they have real mountains there.
Surely Snowdonia or Ben Nevis would be better suited, considering the Linux crowd has always faced an uphill battle, why not try a real challenge?
#8^P
Drunk hackers. Sound like the makins of windows to me.
Where are my GPFs? I WANT MY GPFS!!
This is what we need.
2A packets of bits in the net, 2A packets of bits.. do a checksum and /dev/null the run, 29 packets of bits on the net....
But bring shatterproof goggles, gas masks, and chemical resistant disposable outerwear.
Quaff a few pints, get sprayed with mace, get shot at by rubber bullets. Should be a real gas!
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For a second there, I thought someone was hiking the price of beer. It's hard enough with gas prices as high as they are; leave the other precious brown fluid alone, ok?
Although Linux-branded beer would be an interesting idea. Maybe SuSE and their German compatriots should get cracking on it!
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