#/bin/bash for I in `cat ~/lulsec_passwords.txt | awk '{print $1}'` ; do
echo "I wanted to personally thank you for paying for porn and thereby funding the creation of the content I download for free. Sincerely P. R. Vert" | sendmail -s "Thank you very much" $I done
The John Gospel was the oldest version of the 4 horsemen story, some pop-culture got the mixed up but all the Pratchet works (including Good Omens) stayed consistent with revelations in who they are.
That said- the OP's listing was... er stupid. He had "Disease" and "Pestilence" as two distinct horsemen. The only explanation I can imagine is that he doesn't actually know what "pestilence" means (probably thinks it means rats, cockroaches and such pests). Pestilence is just an older word for disease (or more specifically in some contexts for contagious disease that spreads rapidly).
>Which of the 4 Horsemen do you think is going to be the big winner in this charnel house? War, Famine, Disease or Pestilence? Do you have children that need to be pitied? Of course you don't.
Nitpicking time. The four horsemen are War, Famine, Pestilence and Death. Pestilence is just a synonym for your "Disease" (which isn't listed in any classic source of even parody I've read). Since each of the other three automatically leads to large amounts of Death, that one is guaranteed regardless of which one shows up.
Courts are still law enforcement. Even in civil cases. It's not just the community making a decision - it's the community making a decision and then telling a lot of people in uniforms with big guns to come shoot you or throw you in a cage if you don't do what they decided.
>"Trying to apply logic to the workings of corporations is somewhat like trying to teach calculus to a cat. A totally hopeless endeavor."
Bad analogy dude... if you can find a way to communicate the concepts within the cat's frame of reference - the cat actually has a (very small) chance of learning calculus. Where-as getting a corporation to act logically is pretty much an NP-Complete problem !
There has been several, though no mainstream ones really. C was the first truly portable language and gave us the first portable OS (Unix) until then all OS's were written in machine code for a specific platform.
Since then though there were quite a few OS's written in other languages. Sometimes for purely academic research, sometimes just for fun, some as serious projects with real users (though granted not a great many of them).
XEROC wrote their PILOT system in Mesa. PERQ was written in Object Pascal
The USCD P-System was written in old style non-object Pascal and in it's day was one of the best OS's available, not least because it was the most portable ever written at the time.
Richard Stallman suggested the alternate form "Digital Restrictions Management" years ago when DRM was still newly proposed - for exactly the reasons you point out.
Y2K was legit numbnuts. The only reason it didn't go wrong -was because a few million geeks spent a shitload of our time working our asses off fixing the problem before it could happen. We missed a few spots - one nuclear reactor shut down things like that. But this was a real fear, based on a real problem - the fact that it didn't happen is proof of geek ingenuity and skill applied to solving a crisis before it could cause a disaster.
It's an event geeks should be thanked and celebrated for - deriding it as hype... well I guess that just proves we did our jobs too well.
The grand irony is - that the worst that could happen with running out of IPv4 was never as bad as what would have happened with Y2K if every damn geek on the planet hadn't been busy preventing it. That was before we had things like NAT. Nowadays, the actual impact is relatively small - though it's harmful to the internet in many ways, it's not disastrous in the short term (it does the spirit of the internet much more harm - but facebook and google won't suffer).
Even then - we have the next generation technology, IPv6 is waiting. It would have been kind of cool to have finished the switch before we actually ran out of IPv4 entirely - because it's a much better internet we can build with it... but that is looking less and less likely ever year.
Well... here where I live, it was broadcast by the youth stations in their early-teen slots. That's where I watched it... Maybe in the USA networks marketed it at adults - which if I was an adult American I would find rather insulting - seeing as the rest of the world obviously thought the show was for teenagers.
Mind you - there is some definite (and interesting) cultural matters determining that. Another example was the Buffy spin-off Angel. In South Africa it was marketed to the high-school market. In Britain it was a late night show considered to mature and violent for anybody but adults. A friend of mine who lives in London was shocked to the core when she found out that what was shown as an 11pm Adult Horror series there - was a 5pm teenage action series here.
Dude, it was a SIFI show aimed at early teens. As a thirteen year old, I enjoyed it greatly. I never suggested it was of the same calibre as Star Trek or Babylon 5 or even Firefly because it wasn't - but it was for the audience it was aimed at - exactly right.
Rhodesia was still a colony until 1980 - when Robert Mugabe's organisation finally won the war, and it became the republic of Zimbabwe. Kindly don't comment on things you don't know anything about. I live right next door to the place ! Mugabe was the hero of the hour and the darling of Western Governments for the next 18 years - when he finally proved that having the same person in power for that long is a very bad idea and the country started to rapidly fall apart. Here we are 12 years later- and he's still there and still messing it up. The grand irony of Zimbabwe is this - it used to be known as the bread-bowl of Africa. It was the largest food producer on the continent (it actually outproduced the larger and more modern South Africa - not least because of it's better climate) now the population is starving.
As for your opinions about what's happening in the USA. I'm with you there, but the problem goes back a lot further than that. Capitalism doesn't work if the most productive members of society are consistently the lowest paid members of that society. It makes the ROI on becoming a skilled worker simply too low. Result: The USA produces more lawyers every year than scientists and engineers combined- in fact more than any other job. Because lawyers and stockbrokers make all the money - and they are not productive members of society. You need a few around, more than a few - and you just get leeches.
That's happening in many places though. In countries where skilled producers are still the highest paid members - those countries are growing (even if those skilled workers earn less than in the US - they earn more than their neighbours - and that makes all the difference). A prime example is Germany. Joe Biden asked Angela Merkel a while ago "How did Germany manage to survive the recession so well, with almost no job-losses and an economy that kept growing albeit at a slightly reduced rate ?" Merkel replied: "Mister Biden, we still MAKE STUFF".
Even if you limit it to warfare you still weren't the ONLY one. Zimbabwe for one did the exact same thing, the exact same way - in a longer and bloodier war.
I never used the phrase "some of my best friends are Jewish" - I said I have Jewish friends with whom I have discussed this as cultural identity is something of personal interest of mine - and that I had them read my drafts to make sure it wasn't offensive. That's a VERY different thing to say.
"it is a "national" thing as in the nation of Israel" Odd that's one that none of them has ever suggested. On the contrary, without exception every single one of them thing that nationality has NOTHING to do with Jewishness (keep in mind they are all at least second-generation immigrants to South Africa) that Israel the country should never have been founded and that their Jewish heritage is a matter of personal choice. Much as I say I am only an Afrikaner to the extent that I choose to be, I have adopted elements of several other cultures into my personal lifestyle - and I consider those as much part of my identity a the one I was born into.
"Also if your character is Sephari, why not use Ladino instead of Yiddish?" Wow - an intelligent question ! Simple- she is of Sephardic descent but her ancestors left Spain for Germany several generations earlier (hence her Grandmother having been a resident there during the Holocaust - the book starts with her escape from Berlin). They are English speakers who use some Yiddish slang because of having lived in a Yiddish Askenazi community for several generations. By the time of my character and her daughter, they are living in Cape Town where the vast majority of the Jewry are Askenazi and Yiddish is the common slang among them. Being Jewish in Cape Town is minority enough, not blending in with the others would make no sense. In her attempts to learn more about the secretive line she comes from (they call themselves Oysers - From the Yiddish word "oysergeveyntlekh" meaning "exceptional") she does also go to Spain to try and learn more about the history there, desperate to get her hands on as many Oyser gene samples as she can - because unlike any of her forebears, she's a geneticist and she wants to understand what it is that makes them different- not just from other Jews but from other people.
I have several Jewish friends, ranging from "it's a culture and I'm an atheist" to fully Orthodox. If there is one thing I've learned from them it's that there's about as much consensus on what it means to be Jewish among (born) Jews as there is consensus among Christians about what it means to be one of them (hint, they don't agree on very much).
One of my friends considers it an ethnicity. Another considers the faith to be the core part. Both agrees that somebody who converts to Judaism also becomes ethnically Jewish REGARDLESS of their birth culture. Or at leas, that their children should be considered as such.
One of my Jewish friends is black. Reality though is that in terms of genetic ethnicity - Palestinians and Jews are the exact same race, the exact same people. That much is simple fact.
How do you define Jewish ? It is a race ? What about the Black Jew I go drinking with then ? He is more devoted to his religion than most of the born ones I know. Is it a faith ? What about the atheists ? Or Jews who adopt a different religion ? Is it a culture ? What about the degree to which Jews all over the world have adopted and integrated their host cultures ?
Like any matter of racial or cultural identity the lines are blurry and certainly not scientific in the least. Science pretty much roundly rejects the idea that races really exists - because it can prove that ALL humans share a common ancestry and really not that long ago (in evolutionary terms a hundred thousand years is a blink of an eye). I'm sorry if my minor misunderstanding of the article offended you but frankly I believe that offense came from oversensitivity on your part.
I'm actually quite familiar with recent Jewish cultural history as I'm busy writing a science fiction novel where the protagonist is the grandchild of Sephardic holocaust survivor (yes, I know that the vast majority of Holocaust victims were Ashkanazi - that's sort of the point) and her grandmother's heritage is quite crucial to the plot. Result: I've spent huge amounts of time researching Jewish culture, learning bits of Yiddish and studying more recent Jewish history. Since my novel is also about evolution and genetics - I also read up what studies I could find on Jewish genetic studies as I did not want to write something into my story that would be scientifically impossible with current knowledge.
My Jewish friends have proofread the drafts so far, and love the idea of a secretive line of Sephardic super-heroes that are actually based in real science with powers that don't violate the laws of physics and are all based on valid and current scientific possibilities (if not realities). Somehow I get the feeling if I sent the current draft to YOU - you'd hate it.
Kind of like Stan Lee was dead nervous to publish the first DareDevil comic because he was afraid that blind people would feel stereotyped - instead almost all the feedbak he ended up getting from the blind was how gratifying it was that he could create a blind superhero for them (even if the couldn't read the comic).
I already conceded earlier in the discussion that this part was probably a misunderstanding of the article by me. Who gives a damn ? It was literally the single most UNIMPORTANT sentence I wrote and had absolutely NO impact on the validity of the point I was making.
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Dude, I'm not gonna write your codes for your ISP's problems, this works for me :P
Nah, I just do what Charles Manson did - I talk the Beach Boys into paying for my ghonorhea tablets.
#/bin/bash
for I in `cat ~/lulsec_passwords.txt | awk '{print $1}'` ; do
echo "I wanted to personally thank you for paying for porn and thereby funding the creation of the content I download for free. Sincerely P. R. Vert" | sendmail -s "Thank you very much" $I
done
Hey - I seeded that one too ! And they say bittorrent is anonymous :P
Dear TomTom
You sold a monkey the keys to the banana plantation and you're surprised at the results ?
Sincerely duh.
The John Gospel was the oldest version of the 4 horsemen story, some pop-culture got the mixed up but all the Pratchet works (including Good Omens) stayed consistent with revelations in who they are.
That said- the OP's listing was... er stupid. He had "Disease" and "Pestilence" as two distinct horsemen. The only explanation I can imagine is that he doesn't actually know what "pestilence" means (probably thinks it means rats, cockroaches and such pests).
Pestilence is just an older word for disease (or more specifically in some contexts for contagious disease that spreads rapidly).
>Which of the 4 Horsemen do you think is going to be the big winner in this charnel house? War, Famine, Disease or Pestilence? Do you have children that need to be pitied? Of course you don't.
Nitpicking time. The four horsemen are War, Famine, Pestilence and Death. Pestilence is just a synonym for your "Disease" (which isn't listed in any classic source of even parody I've read).
Since each of the other three automatically leads to large amounts of Death, that one is guaranteed regardless of which one shows up.
God was one of us? Just a seeder on the bus. Burning CDs in a rush. Combing his hair with a plastic brush...
Did you actually READ the page you linked ?
Unclean hands is not a defense against financial damage awards, only against injunctive awards and other forms of equitable award.
Courts are still law enforcement. Even in civil cases.
It's not just the community making a decision - it's the community making a decision and then telling a lot of people in uniforms with big guns to come shoot you or throw you in a cage if you don't do what they decided.
>"Trying to apply logic to the workings of corporations is somewhat like trying to teach calculus to a cat. A totally hopeless endeavor."
Bad analogy dude... if you can find a way to communicate the concepts within the cat's frame of reference - the cat actually has a (very small) chance of learning calculus. Where-as getting a corporation to act logically is pretty much an NP-Complete problem !
There has been several, though no mainstream ones really. C was the first truly portable language and gave us the first portable OS (Unix) until then all OS's were written in machine code for a specific platform.
Since then though there were quite a few OS's written in other languages. Sometimes for purely academic research, sometimes just for fun, some as serious projects with real users (though granted not a great many of them).
XEROC wrote their PILOT system in Mesa.
PERQ was written in Object Pascal
The USCD P-System was written in old style non-object Pascal and in it's day was one of the best OS's available, not least because it was the most portable ever written at the time.
Richard Stallman suggested the alternate form "Digital Restrictions Management" years ago when DRM was still newly proposed - for exactly the reasons you point out.
He did.
He's been living in London for years.
Come to think of it though, that may have been a step backwards...
Y2K was legit numbnuts.
The only reason it didn't go wrong -was because a few million geeks spent a shitload of our time working our asses off fixing the problem before it could happen.
We missed a few spots - one nuclear reactor shut down things like that. But this was a real fear, based on a real problem - the fact that it didn't happen is proof of geek ingenuity and skill applied to solving a crisis before it could cause a disaster.
It's an event geeks should be thanked and celebrated for - deriding it as hype... well I guess that just proves we did our jobs too well.
The grand irony is - that the worst that could happen with running out of IPv4 was never as bad as what would have happened with Y2K if every damn geek on the planet hadn't been busy preventing it. That was before we had things like NAT.
Nowadays, the actual impact is relatively small - though it's harmful to the internet in many ways, it's not disastrous in the short term (it does the spirit of the internet much more harm - but facebook and google won't suffer).
Even then - we have the next generation technology, IPv6 is waiting. It would have been kind of cool to have finished the switch before we actually ran out of IPv4 entirely - because it's a much better internet we can build with it... but that is looking less and less likely ever year.
>Uh, no it wasn't. It was aimed at adults.
Well... here where I live, it was broadcast by the youth stations in their early-teen slots. That's where I watched it...
Maybe in the USA networks marketed it at adults - which if I was an adult American I would find rather insulting - seeing as the rest of the world obviously thought the show was for teenagers.
Mind you - there is some definite (and interesting) cultural matters determining that. Another example was the Buffy spin-off Angel. In South Africa it was marketed to the high-school market. In Britain it was a late night show considered to mature and violent for anybody but adults.
A friend of mine who lives in London was shocked to the core when she found out that what was shown as an 11pm Adult Horror series there - was a 5pm teenage action series here.
Dude, it was a SIFI show aimed at early teens. As a thirteen year old, I enjoyed it greatly.
I never suggested it was of the same calibre as Star Trek or Babylon 5 or even Firefly because it wasn't - but it was for the audience it was aimed at - exactly right.
Rhodesia was still a colony until 1980 - when Robert Mugabe's organisation finally won the war, and it became the republic of Zimbabwe. Kindly don't comment on things you don't know anything about. I live right next door to the place ! Mugabe was the hero of the hour and the darling of Western Governments for the next 18 years - when he finally proved that having the same person in power for that long is a very bad idea and the country started to rapidly fall apart. Here we are 12 years later- and he's still there and still messing it up. The grand irony of Zimbabwe is this - it used to be known as the bread-bowl of Africa. It was the largest food producer on the continent (it actually outproduced the larger and more modern South Africa - not least because of it's better climate) now the population is starving.
As for your opinions about what's happening in the USA. I'm with you there, but the problem goes back a lot further than that. Capitalism doesn't work if the most productive members of society are consistently the lowest paid members of that society. It makes the ROI on becoming a skilled worker simply too low.
Result: The USA produces more lawyers every year than scientists and engineers combined- in fact more than any other job. Because lawyers and stockbrokers make all the money - and they are not productive members of society. You need a few around, more than a few - and you just get leeches.
That's happening in many places though. In countries where skilled producers are still the highest paid members - those countries are growing (even if those skilled workers earn less than in the US - they earn more than their neighbours - and that makes all the difference). A prime example is Germany.
Joe Biden asked Angela Merkel a while ago "How did Germany manage to survive the recession so well, with almost no job-losses and an economy that kept growing albeit at a slightly reduced rate ?"
Merkel replied: "Mister Biden, we still MAKE STUFF".
Even if you limit it to warfare you still weren't the ONLY one. Zimbabwe for one did the exact same thing, the exact same way - in a longer and bloodier war.
Okay, that's actually funny - but you do realize that in English it's the word for "child support payments" right ?
Seriously - would YOU trust the advice of somebody called "Alimony" ?
Yes, you're very special. And I'm bored now.
I never used the phrase "some of my best friends are Jewish" - I said I have Jewish friends with whom I have discussed this as cultural identity is something of personal interest of mine - and that I had them read my drafts to make sure it wasn't offensive.
That's a VERY different thing to say.
"it is a "national" thing as in the nation of Israel"
Odd that's one that none of them has ever suggested. On the contrary, without exception every single one of them thing that nationality has NOTHING to do with Jewishness (keep in mind they are all at least second-generation immigrants to South Africa) that Israel the country should never have been founded and that their Jewish heritage is a matter of personal choice. Much as I say I am only an Afrikaner to the extent that I choose to be, I have adopted elements of several other cultures into my personal lifestyle - and I consider those as much part of my identity a the one I was born into.
"Also if your character is Sephari, why not use Ladino instead of Yiddish?"
Wow - an intelligent question ! Simple- she is of Sephardic descent but her ancestors left Spain for Germany several generations earlier (hence her Grandmother having been a resident there during the Holocaust - the book starts with her escape from Berlin). They are English speakers who use some Yiddish slang because of having lived in a Yiddish Askenazi community for several generations. By the time of my character and her daughter, they are living in Cape Town where the vast majority of the Jewry are Askenazi and Yiddish is the common slang among them. Being Jewish in Cape Town is minority enough, not blending in with the others would make no sense.
In her attempts to learn more about the secretive line she comes from (they call themselves Oysers - From the Yiddish word "oysergeveyntlekh" meaning "exceptional") she does also go to Spain to try and learn more about the history there, desperate to get her hands on as many Oyser gene samples as she can - because unlike any of her forebears, she's a geneticist and she wants to understand what it is that makes them different- not just from other Jews but from other people.
I have several Jewish friends, ranging from "it's a culture and I'm an atheist" to fully Orthodox. If there is one thing I've learned from them it's that there's about as much consensus on what it means to be Jewish among (born) Jews as there is consensus among Christians about what it means to be one of them (hint, they don't agree on very much).
One of my friends considers it an ethnicity. Another considers the faith to be the core part. Both agrees that somebody who converts to Judaism also becomes ethnically Jewish REGARDLESS of their birth culture. Or at leas, that their children should be considered as such.
One of my Jewish friends is black. Reality though is that in terms of genetic ethnicity - Palestinians and Jews are the exact same race, the exact same people. That much is simple fact.
How do you define Jewish ? It is a race ? What about the Black Jew I go drinking with then ? He is more devoted to his religion than most of the born ones I know. Is it a faith ? What about the atheists ? Or Jews who adopt a different religion ? Is it a culture ? What about the degree to which Jews all over the world have adopted and integrated their host cultures ?
Like any matter of racial or cultural identity the lines are blurry and certainly not scientific in the least. Science pretty much roundly rejects the idea that races really exists - because it can prove that ALL humans share a common ancestry and really not that long ago (in evolutionary terms a hundred thousand years is a blink of an eye).
I'm sorry if my minor misunderstanding of the article offended you but frankly I believe that offense came from oversensitivity on your part.
I'm actually quite familiar with recent Jewish cultural history as I'm busy writing a science fiction novel where the protagonist is the grandchild of Sephardic holocaust survivor (yes, I know that the vast majority of Holocaust victims were Ashkanazi - that's sort of the point) and her grandmother's heritage is quite crucial to the plot. Result: I've spent huge amounts of time researching Jewish culture, learning bits of Yiddish and studying more recent Jewish history. Since my novel is also about evolution and genetics - I also read up what studies I could find on Jewish genetic studies as I did not want to write something into my story that would be scientifically impossible with current knowledge.
My Jewish friends have proofread the drafts so far, and love the idea of a secretive line of Sephardic super-heroes that are actually based in real science with powers that don't violate the laws of physics and are all based on valid and current scientific possibilities (if not realities). Somehow I get the feeling if I sent the current draft to YOU - you'd hate it.
Kind of like Stan Lee was dead nervous to publish the first DareDevil comic because he was afraid that blind people would feel stereotyped - instead almost all the feedbak he ended up getting from the blind was how gratifying it was that he could create a blind superhero for them (even if the couldn't read the comic).
I already conceded earlier in the discussion that this part was probably a misunderstanding of the article by me. Who gives a damn ? It was literally the single most UNIMPORTANT sentence I wrote and had absolutely NO impact on the validity of the point I was making.