I will cut you some slack and assume everybody falls into the Everybody(Read:*nix power users)
However, I dont think most people have a clue what they install as the default. Sendmail setup as an open relay by default? When your first learning unix do you know what sendmail is?
I bet learninga bout it is a painful lesson when your machine is hacked or left on a college network full of people ahem.. learning about all facets of comptuer err security.
So yeah after you learn a little its rather easy to go through and pick services you need running and pay attention to Bugtraq/security focus and patch up any bugs for the services you run.
Now.... the average user is not going to just realize (he|she) needs to go to these places or that these things are even insecure..
I paid well over 150 bucks for some CS books:-\
Times that by 3 for a semester yeah sure its not a lot but how many hours at 7 bucks an hour does that take??:-\
Is this REALLY a pissing contest if AMD is shipping stable production quality processors? Isnt that just natural progression?
How is it a pissing contest if AMD is not rushing to ship stuff (okay im sure there is some 'rush') but thats competition bud
AMD is shipping stable stuff that is very fast.. I dont see this as a pissing contest.. its past that.. Intel is just palying catchup and playing marketing games.
Jeremy
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And just how did these phsicists learn all of these properties?
We all know they have collections at home and play with them still:-P
This is not even microsoft.. it is WebTV (whom Microsoft owns) trying to cut down hardware costs by doing (more?) of their own manufacturing... Whats the big deal???
That is what happens when you give the wrong answer.
I mention AMD processors to my non techie friends who I have not trained well in the fact that Intel is ev!l and I get these glassy eyed stares like AMD is some evil entity.
I would have a VERY hard time convincing someone a 1.4Ghz Athlon is faster or as fast as a 2Ghz p4. It would just crumble their weak grasp on technology so most people just assume your crazy.. *shrug*
OJ Simpson case for example.. Im not speaking of his guilt or innocence (we all know he did it anyways right?)
Just the fact that it was one of the biggest BS/obscured/god and OJ only really knows the truth in the end type cases that had you questioning your left or right... thats what 400dollar/hour lawyers do.. make you question your left and right. Jeremy
I remember that one of the production versions of Quake (the one burned onto a CD) was compiled in Watcom because it was fastest?:) *shrugs* I believe that is true anyone remember??
7 years ago when I was around 13, I found C a perplexing langauge until I found C For dummies Vol1, and 2. I didnt ever need a dummies book about programming, but the gentle introduction helped me learn period versus being in some gray haze with my friends K&R, Book on C.
Now I program for a living and dont have but those two For dummies books..
BUT, I think anyone who would ever go so far as to say the books are for idiots are wrong.
These kind of books can help people who may otherwise lose intrest become very knowledgeable.
And go on.. to become sucessful in a Techie type career. So Dont knock emm not everyone learns the same.
Honestly, I just rather not think about that. really..
It is not going to do me any good once I find out someone has lined a Nuke up for Hotlanta, ill just get the heck outta dodge.
Until then I will let whoever we(Americans) have plays cloaks and daggers watching the nukes do their job. It is one of those aspects of life I would rather not ponder;-P
Google results 1-10 of about 460,000 for installing linux. Search took 0.06 seconds.
Google results 1-10 of about 482,000 for installing windows. Search took 0.05 seconds.
Pretty fair for uhm.. both sides as far as pages indexed..
So.. my guess is with the proliferation of LInux distro's and the more concentrated windows distro's (one) its a bit easier to find supporting documentation for Windows. TRUE or FALSE?
This is the first post to mention a mistake in the article, yet much later posts are the ones getting modded up because their parents are higher modded.. sucky.
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Hmmn.. I read your post, im not sure whether to laugh, cry, or run as fast as I can and never read /. again...
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*sigh*
*clicks back on the
EVERYBODY knows that.
I will cut you some slack and assume everybody falls into the Everybody(Read:*nix power users)
However, I dont think most people have a clue what they install as the default. Sendmail setup as an open relay by default? When your first learning unix do you know what sendmail is?
I bet learninga bout it is a painful lesson when your machine is hacked or left on a college network full of people ahem.. learning about all facets of comptuer err security.
So yeah after you learn a little its rather easy to go through and pick services you need running and pay attention to Bugtraq/security focus and patch up any bugs for the services you run.
Now.... the average user is not going to just realize (he|she) needs to go to these places or that these things are even insecure..
Jeremy
Yes that is your right.
It is not your right to treat unfairly your customers whom now have no control over buying your products.
Many companies however with absolute power (monopoly) cant seem to be fair anymore so they must be destoryed (microsoft)
This is not a troll... the courts agree.
jeremy
I paid well over 150 bucks for some CS books :-\
Times that by 3 for a semester yeah sure its not a lot but how many hours at 7 bucks an hour does that take?? :-\
You said it.. :) Was looking for someone to say it.
800 Million manadrin speaker types.. with what percentage on the web.
Now 400 Million english speaking types, what percentage on the web?
What country was the internet invented in?
What country setup the initial drive for the net?
Those are all rhetorical questions because everyone knows the answer.
Jeremy
The question is..
Is this REALLY a pissing contest if AMD is shipping stable production quality processors? Isnt that just natural progression?
How is it a pissing contest if AMD is not rushing to ship stuff (okay im sure there is some 'rush') but thats competition bud
AMD is shipping stable stuff that is very fast.. I dont see this as a pissing contest.. its past that.. Intel is just palying catchup and playing marketing games.
Jeremy
And just how did these phsicists learn all of these properties?
:-P
We all know they have collections at home and play with them still
And that comes from the bible..
Anyways.. no flamewars here..
Jeremy
Testing.. not trollin
but you can bet getting that NDA comes at a price too. Even if the price is promising they will buy a lot MS stuff.
its a price as a taxpaying american I dont feel I should be paying. So yeah they got the code.. but at a cost above and beyond reasonable...
Jeremy
You laugh....
WHy do you think Intel was demoing "LINUX" failover protection...
As pointed out... MS competes with intel, intel bites back...
Jeremy
This is not even microsoft.. it is WebTV (whom Microsoft owns) trying to cut down hardware costs by doing (more?) of their own manufacturing... Whats the big deal???
Jeremy
I didnt.. i said I *would* if its true.. its all speculation / vaporware :-D
ZAP!!!
That is what happens when you give the wrong answer.
I mention AMD processors to my non techie friends who I have not trained well in the fact that Intel is ev!l and I get these glassy eyed stares like AMD is some evil entity.
I would have a VERY hard time convincing someone a 1.4Ghz Athlon is faster or as fast as a 2Ghz p4. It would just crumble their weak grasp on technology so most people just assume your crazy.. *shrug*
Jeremy
OJ Simpson case for example.. Im not speaking of his guilt or innocence (we all know he did it anyways right?)
Just the fact that it was one of the biggest BS/obscured/god and OJ only really knows the truth in the end type cases that had you questioning your left or right... thats what 400dollar/hour lawyers do.. make you question your left and right.
Jeremy
I remember that one of the production versions of Quake (the one burned onto a CD) was compiled in Watcom because it was fastest? :) *shrugs* I believe that is true anyone remember??
Jeremy
Hehe, I guess it doesnt like flash. :)
What you say is how I feel.. but I think after they gained a certain amoutn of repoire ont he "For Dummies" name changing it would be kinda silly now.
Jeremy
7 years ago when I was around 13, I found C a perplexing langauge until I found C For dummies Vol1, and 2. I didnt ever need a dummies book about programming, but the gentle introduction helped me learn period versus being in some gray haze with my friends K&R, Book on C.
Now I program for a living and dont have but those two For dummies books..
BUT, I think anyone who would ever go so far as to say the books are for idiots are wrong.
These kind of books can help people who may otherwise lose intrest become very knowledgeable.
And go on.. to become sucessful in a Techie type career. So Dont knock emm not everyone learns the same.
Jeremy
Well the way Cobalt sees it all these boxes, and cubes in the market what now "X-BOX", "N-CUBE", "Apples Cube", are destroying their market share.
Everyone knows that as soona s someone sees the apple Cube they will immediately buy that instead of a Cobalt system for their webserver.....
Jeremy
Or the fact that half of them had how to install linux OVER windows :))))
If K-Meleon is lightweight, Then IE is a featherweight compared to it.
/. (just the main page) and another window to a smallish website consumed just over 40MB of ram!!!!
/. from the browser.
First im Running NT Workstation 4.0.
I have 128MB of ram on a PIII866
K-Meleon was rather Jerky.
A quick trip to Task_Manager revealead it was not using all that much processor so it was... waiting on events.. i dont know it was very jerky.
Each browswer one to
If that is light weight... were in trouble.
I really hope it is just because this thing is in development. It had an absolutely huge memory footprint.
It was only a 2.85MB Download but owch.. I had to shut it down because I could not type in the text area to post to
Anyways.. YMMV
Jeremy
Honestly, I just rather not think about that. really..
;-P
It is not going to do me any good once I find out someone has lined a Nuke up for Hotlanta, ill just get the heck outta dodge.
Until then I will let whoever we(Americans) have plays cloaks and daggers watching the nukes do their job. It is one of those aspects of life I would rather not ponder
Google results 1-10 of about 460,000 for installing linux. Search took 0.06 seconds.
Google results 1-10 of about 482,000 for installing windows. Search took 0.05 seconds.
Pretty fair for uhm.. both sides as far as pages indexed..
So.. my guess is with the proliferation of LInux distro's and the more concentrated windows distro's (one) its a bit easier to find supporting documentation for Windows. TRUE or FALSE?
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Proof most moderators sort by score.
This is the first post to mention a mistake in the article, yet much later posts are the ones getting modded up because their parents are higher modded.. sucky.