"Higher maths and hard (as opposed to soft) sciences mercilessly teach problem solving and deduction"
The teach problem solving and deduction. There's simply no way you or anyone else can correctly claim "higher math" is necessary for those skills, a well constructed logic course can teach them without any higher math.
If you want someone to have certain skills, you teach those skills, you DON'T throw them in a class comprised of some stuff they'll need and a bunch of stuff they won't.
I think the reality is, the people teaching CS suffer the same failures as other instructors. ER docs have to work ridiculous hours for no reason than everyone else did it. CS profs are the same, I did the math so you will too, and who cares if you need it.
What kind of loser mods every comment in the thread down (including TWO which weren't troll/overrated)?
FUCK YOU mod, you can't shut me up and you can't prove me wrong, so modding me down is how your cowardly punk ass gets your passive aggressive jollies.
I don't know why I'm surprised, that's what happens when you give people like you a little power.
"You're now in the army and will be shot if you try to leave"
THAT is a lie. You are court martialed, not shot. Even when convicted you are imprisoned. See that word "will" in there liar? It should be "can" but in your haste to rile people up, yo uthought a little white lie wouldn't matter.
Liars like you always do that.
"You care Sparky."
About making sure everyone knows you're a liar? Yes. About your opinion? Um, not so much.
"It must burn you up inside to be so incapable of even simple arguments. "
It must burn you up to have lied and gotten caught, why else would you follow me around insulting me when I've told you I couldn't care less about what you think.
I mean seriously, you want to talk about who cares? You've been trolling me for days after I told you I didn't give a fuck what you though.
What percentage of the Slashdot populace has donated to Wikipedia?
What percentage of them would like to know that their donations went to unapproved steak dinners that we know of, and god know what else that we don't?
Sorry, if you make it your business to solicit money from me, then you make things like this my business.
And no, I don't consider the willingness to steal a small sum any different than the willingness to steal a large one.
"Some of us have obligations that take precedence over politics."
Please tell me and the rest of us what obligations could possibly take precedence over ensuring your children's future? What do you think "politics" are?
You're complaining about being inconvenienced, and attempting to make your short term obligations to your family seem more important than your long term obligations to them.
Don't get pissed that some of us see through your rationalization and understand that you're being penny-wise and pound foolish.
"I don't give a crap if you couch it in an explanation of adherence (or, more honestly, it's complete lack thereof) to scientific method. You would have broken the law when you taught it, period."
Except for being completely wrong about that, I see your point.
That is, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. That was your point wasn't it?
And how does it feel to know I've actually had the professionals who make it their job to know the law look that lesson over and give it their heartfelt approval? These are the lawyers mind you, so no, it wasn't the religious right that got elected who ok'd it, it was the notoriously cowardly attorneys who got hired to make sure it was legal.
You're wrong. In theory, and in fact, and should learn about the law before you make another incorrect post displaying your vast ignorance.
"Would you want photos taken through the windows of your home show up on the internet for the whole world to see?"
One question. Is it the world's responsibility to conform to your expectations and not to look in, or is it your responsibility to engage in basic measures to protect your privacy?
The answer is obvious, and demonstrates why you are wrong.
"Yes I did."
No, no you didn't.
And making up stupid stories to whore karma like you did is pathetic.
"What law? The one passed in 1970s? That was repealed by Bush last year."
Would you mind explaining how a President can repeal a law? I think you could benefit from some education.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower#Whistleblower_Protection_Act_of_2007
As to this
"Today no law protects Federal Whistleblowers."
That's wrong too. Both the Whistleblower Protection Act and the No FEAR act protect federal whistleblowers.
No FEAR Act
+4 informative for being totally wrong...
I think you need to try a little harder to understand the difference between an individual abusing the system and what you're suggesting.
They are not equivalent, not comparable, and your argument is not convincing as a result.
Any system will always have the potential for individual abuse.
And it doesn't make sense now.
"Higher maths and hard (as opposed to soft) sciences mercilessly teach problem solving and deduction"
The teach problem solving and deduction. There's simply no way you or anyone else can correctly claim "higher math" is necessary for those skills, a well constructed logic course can teach them without any higher math.
If you want someone to have certain skills, you teach those skills, you DON'T throw them in a class comprised of some stuff they'll need and a bunch of stuff they won't.
I think the reality is, the people teaching CS suffer the same failures as other instructors. ER docs have to work ridiculous hours for no reason than everyone else did it. CS profs are the same, I did the math so you will too, and who cares if you need it.
That's simply not good enough.
"I've donated a couple hundred dollars to wikipedia."
Great, what does that have to do with the steak dinner?
You are capable of discerning the difference between the foundation you donated to and the thief who stole from it aren't you?
Because at the moment, it doesn't look like you are.
What kind of loser mods every comment in the thread down (including TWO which weren't troll/overrated)?
FUCK YOU mod, you can't shut me up and you can't prove me wrong, so modding me down is how your cowardly punk ass gets your passive aggressive jollies.
I don't know why I'm surprised, that's what happens when you give people like you a little power.
Mod me down, new accounts are free.
I tell the op that I'm glad he clarified his position and you find it necessary to mod me down.
You're obviously one of the people who I have outdebated recently, no one else would be that pathetic.
"You have no idea what a lie is."
Really?
"You're now in the army and will be shot if you try to leave"
THAT is a lie. You are court martialed, not shot. Even when convicted you are imprisoned. See that word "will" in there liar? It should be "can" but in your haste to rile people up, yo uthought a little white lie wouldn't matter.
Liars like you always do that.
"You care Sparky."
About making sure everyone knows you're a liar? Yes. About your opinion? Um, not so much.
"It must burn you up inside to be so incapable of even simple arguments. "
It must burn you up to have lied and gotten caught, why else would you follow me around insulting me when I've told you I couldn't care less about what you think.
I mean seriously, you want to talk about who cares? You've been trolling me for days after I told you I didn't give a fuck what you though.
What kind of loser has the time to do that?
Your kind of loser apparently.
I'm glad you replied, the post I responded to came across as something completely different than what you seem to have intended.
There was no troll there.
What percentage of the Slashdot populace has donated to Wikipedia?
What percentage of them would like to know that their donations went to unapproved steak dinners that we know of, and god know what else that we don't?
Sorry, if you make it your business to solicit money from me, then you make things like this my business.
And no, I don't consider the willingness to steal a small sum any different than the willingness to steal a large one.
Ok, here's the answer
"Some CEOs of nonprofits get paid hundreds of thousands per year of donated money,"
That's their salary. No one has a problem with CEO's paying for their friend's dinner out of their own pocket.
"and this guy can't treat three friends to a $325 meal?"
That IS NOT a salary, and as such, NOT out of Jimmy Wales' pocket.
I have no idea why you're finding it so hard to see such an obvious difference.
"they ordered eNom to remove them"
Source?
"would you RTFA already..."
I have. What you claim isn't in it.
This, however, is
"the company, based in Bellevue, Wash., says it learned that the sites were on the blacklist through a blog."
So, a source that says the Treasury Dept. ordered him to take it down please, or an admission that you don't have one.
And if you're going to suggest someone RTFA, you might want to do so yourself.
"Some of us have obligations that take precedence over politics."
Please tell me and the rest of us what obligations could possibly take precedence over ensuring your children's future? What do you think "politics" are?
You're complaining about being inconvenienced, and attempting to make your short term obligations to your family seem more important than your long term obligations to them.
Don't get pissed that some of us see through your rationalization and understand that you're being penny-wise and pound foolish.
"I'm not sure that I read that the current administration is being singled out for blame."
Read it now. You'll find you're wrong.
"Why? Because the US government..."
What branch of the US government is eNom?
So, no, that's not why. It was a nice troll though.
"WHEN is this country going to f*king LEARN!!!???? You DO NOT successfully, peacefully advance rogue countries by ostracising them."
South Africa.
You're wrong, and there is no rebuttal.
"... are breaking the law if they go there?"
No.
Kind of makes your "land of the free" remark seem pretty stupid now doesn't it?
And improve your reading comprehension.
"Perhaps if you hadn't lied demonstrably, I'd give a fuck what you thought.
But I don't."
Read that until you understand it, or if necessary, get someone smarter to read it to you.
You're a liar. That's all I need to know about you and what you think.
"You have extreme comprehension issues"
No, I just reject bullshit from lying hypocrites.
Like you for instance.
Perhaps if you hadn't lied demonstrably, I'd give a fuck what you thought.
But I don't.
"I don't give a crap if you couch it in an explanation of adherence (or, more honestly, it's complete lack thereof) to scientific method. You would have broken the law when you taught it, period."
Except for being completely wrong about that, I see your point.
That is, you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. That was your point wasn't it?
And how does it feel to know I've actually had the professionals who make it their job to know the law look that lesson over and give it their heartfelt approval? These are the lawyers mind you, so no, it wasn't the religious right that got elected who ok'd it, it was the notoriously cowardly attorneys who got hired to make sure it was legal.
You're wrong. In theory, and in fact, and should learn about the law before you make another incorrect post displaying your vast ignorance.
"I don't understand why Wired insists on playing along with Potter's pretense of being an "unemployed psychologist". "
Because that's what he chooses to call himself?
I'm not really sure why it matters to you or why you think you get to have an opinion on the subject.
"Would you want photos taken through the windows of your home show up on the internet for the whole world to see?"
One question. Is it the world's responsibility to conform to your expectations and not to look in, or is it your responsibility to engage in basic measures to protect your privacy?
The answer is obvious, and demonstrates why you are wrong.
"I used it in a class"
I doubt it, that being said, I'm sure I could make up stories like you did, I just choose not to.
"idiot"
Why are you signing your posts. We've been at this a while, I know who you are already.
"Who the fuck are you, George Bush?"
Yup, doesn't it burn getting your ass handed to you by a dullard?