Is Compromise really so unacceptable? He caved/compromises on this one issue and now he's a pariah.
(really just looking for an excuse to use that word)
I didn't jump to conclusions. i just asked a question. Admittedly unnecessarily sarcastically. But seriously, who is better? Cause most politicians are retch worthy and i'd would love to find one thats not.
Well maybe a jaded truth. Are you on the do not call list? Its not impossible for politicians to do something right and useful... its just a minor miracle.
wow a rationale, well thought out, well supported, calm, informative post on this issue. On slashdot. I think im feeling faint. I think i want to have your babies. I think i just found the solution to PI.
Seriously 2 awesome points. We need more people like you. Sorry for the off-topic post but this deserved attention
Ok.
This bill is explicitly unconstitutional, right?
We all know president bush will pass this law, right?
He's taken the oath of affirmation from Article 2 Section 1 of the United States Constitution right?
So why doesn't someone (or all of us) go to the white house, call him out for his lies or at least the violation of his oath and demand he step down?
Or should we just wait for the next president to rescue us?
Name for me the times when congress has actually declared war. Now name for me the "conflicts" or "engagements" America's military has been in. We're not exactly following our own rules. I agree that the military is capable of investigation. But I think the military is bending the rules a tiny bit too much.
How bout we make our own. Before you say yeah whatever and blow me off give me one good reason(as in one that i can't prove invalid our at least not good) why we shouldn't. There is a 80%(roughly) disapproval rating for most of the government. So lets actually do something about it.
So who are you gonna Vote for? Santa Clause? Colbert?(i'd vote Stewart over colbert personally but thats just me)
Basing your entire vote off one decision is silly.
Skepticism, it leaves in baby steps and comes in leaps and bounds.
And what supporters? How did those supporters make their voices heard? I'm sorry but the only place i heard about this bill was here on slashdot. None of the people i talked to about it (roughly 20 of various backgrounds and places) knew much of anything. Hell most people thought I was talking about VISA.
What stuck out most in your post is the less then 20% statistic. 80% of the people are disgruntled, yet no ones doing anything about it. Just waiting for it to be over. Wow.
See Unconscionability in regards to contract law as well as any other excuse for nonperformance. Just because you play by the rules doesn't mean everyone does. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability#U.S._case_law
And no that's not what happened but that's(obama's actions) not what you (sorta)asked about.
Are those finger squiggles or actual quotes. If actual quotes i'd like some context please, short quotes like that are wonderful for twisting meaning. More or less a cheap soundbite.
I love that you compare wanting stronger states rights with hating freedom and independence. Ya damn federalist. Thats right i went there. I called you a member of a party thats been dead for nearly two-hundred years. What you gonna do bout it... Punk.
Hmm that's very dangerous absolutism. Lemme prove it.
I buy a bill that closes loop hole in the federally regulated milk industry, but elsewhere gives a special incentive in say nevada, not to a specific company but to specific conditions, in that state. Unfortunately what isn't mentioned in the bill is only one milk company can actually take advantage of this offer. Vote yay or nay?
This actually happened, by the way and it passed. Because the big milk companies bought the entire congresses vote, for roughly a couple million. I would link to a supporting article but thats about 3 browser crashes back and a couple years ago. The best article i found then was in the washington post.
So your insinuating obama is a flip flopper now? Didn't we learn this past 8 years that maybe the ability to change your mind might be, i dunno, a good idea? Had we learned earlier maybe we could have changed our minds and left a silly war we really shouldn't have started. Or at least made some vague half-hearted attempt towards that goal.
All i have to say is he got in trouble for not wearing a lapel pin and sucking at bowling. He'd lose something no matter what. Hell if he was absent for the vote (can senators miss votes?) he'd be accused of not being involved enough.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah but whats long enough?
Ok Ryan i won't be a friend to the parasite.
"Politician Blahblah is soft on sex offenders."
Am i the only one that read that and giggled?
So you mean he has women come to him and ask him to look at their "play place"...
Hell Yeah! That sounds like a genius, miracle worker to me!
Is Compromise really so unacceptable? He caved/compromises on this one issue and now he's a pariah.
(really just looking for an excuse to use that word)
So you'd vote no and leave the loop holes open? The question isn't about the bribery. its about the tradeoffs involved in the actual law.
I didn't jump to conclusions. i just asked a question. Admittedly unnecessarily sarcastically. But seriously, who is better? Cause most politicians are retch worthy and i'd would love to find one thats not.
Well maybe a jaded truth. Are you on the do not call list? Its not impossible for politicians to do something right and useful... its just a minor miracle.
wow a rationale, well thought out, well supported, calm, informative post on this issue. On slashdot. I think im feeling faint. I think i want to have your babies. I think i just found the solution to PI.
Seriously 2 awesome points. We need more people like you. Sorry for the off-topic post but this deserved attention
Ok.
This bill is explicitly unconstitutional, right?
We all know president bush will pass this law, right?
He's taken the oath of affirmation from Article 2 Section 1 of the United States Constitution right?
So why doesn't someone (or all of us) go to the white house, call him out for his lies or at least the violation of his oath and demand he step down?
Or should we just wait for the next president to rescue us?
Name for me the times when congress has actually declared war. Now name for me the "conflicts" or "engagements" America's military has been in. We're not exactly following our own rules. I agree that the military is capable of investigation. But I think the military is bending the rules a tiny bit too much.
I absolutely agree. So what do we do about it.
How bout we make our own. Before you say yeah whatever and blow me off give me one good reason(as in one that i can't prove invalid our at least not good) why we shouldn't. There is a 80%(roughly) disapproval rating for most of the government. So lets actually do something about it.
So who are you gonna Vote for? Santa Clause? Colbert?(i'd vote Stewart over colbert personally but thats just me)
Basing your entire vote off one decision is silly.
Skepticism, it leaves in baby steps and comes in leaps and bounds.
And what supporters? How did those supporters make their voices heard? I'm sorry but the only place i heard about this bill was here on slashdot. None of the people i talked to about it (roughly 20 of various backgrounds and places) knew much of anything. Hell most people thought I was talking about VISA.
What stuck out most in your post is the less then 20% statistic. 80% of the people are disgruntled, yet no ones doing anything about it. Just waiting for it to be over. Wow.
See Unconscionability in regards to contract law as well as any other excuse for nonperformance. Just because you play by the rules doesn't mean everyone does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconscionability#U.S._case_law
And no that's not what happened but that's(obama's actions) not what you (sorta)asked about.
Are those finger squiggles or actual quotes. If actual quotes i'd like some context please, short quotes like that are wonderful for twisting meaning. More or less a cheap soundbite.
I love that you compare wanting stronger states rights with hating freedom and independence. Ya damn federalist. Thats right i went there. I called you a member of a party thats been dead for nearly two-hundred years. What you gonna do bout it... Punk.
Hmm that's very dangerous absolutism. Lemme prove it. I buy a bill that closes loop hole in the federally regulated milk industry, but elsewhere gives a special incentive in say nevada, not to a specific company but to specific conditions, in that state. Unfortunately what isn't mentioned in the bill is only one milk company can actually take advantage of this offer. Vote yay or nay?
This actually happened, by the way and it passed. Because the big milk companies bought the entire congresses vote, for roughly a couple million. I would link to a supporting article but thats about 3 browser crashes back and a couple years ago. The best article i found then was in the washington post.
Are you hypocrite?
if you said no, then what are you doing about this? or are you
Claiming some morally superior position
that
doesn't mean a damn
And in case your wanting to ask me the same question, the answer is yes.
Actually replace "other Democrat's" with "Senator's (that voted yes, if you need to be specific) " and you got yourself some straight up truth there.
So your insinuating obama is a flip flopper now? Didn't we learn this past 8 years that maybe the ability to change your mind might be, i dunno, a good idea? Had we learned earlier maybe we could have changed our minds and left a silly war we really shouldn't have started. Or at least made some vague half-hearted attempt towards that goal.
Normally i avoid pointless posts but that was definitely worthy of an exception. Two awesome points for that. hell 3 even.
All i have to say is he got in trouble for not wearing a lapel pin and sucking at bowling. He'd lose something no matter what. Hell if he was absent for the vote (can senators miss votes?) he'd be accused of not being involved enough.