Was this a high school that you are referring to when you say that you could get expelled for having a calculator or even a middle school?
I'm not the original poster, but I remember the days when you could get in trouble (maybe not expelled, but whatever) for having a calculator... or at least for using it in a math class.
It didn't much help me buckle down and do my long division homework when my mom said "it's ridiculous that they spend so much time making you do this... after all, everyone has calculators now!"
Of course, now I sometimes just do the math in my head, because the calculator on my phone is somewhat tedious to use. But it depends on what mood I'm in.
Only the GF-888 was bigger - and I only ever saw two of these. One was on a beach entertaining pretty much the ENTIRE beach. It had TWO handles! I shudder to think how many 'D' cells it took to power it up as my 777 used 12 of 'em!
Wasn't it in "Do the Right Thing" where the guy goes into the shop with his boom box and asks for "12 D Energizer batteries"? I don't know why that has stuck in my head all these years...
If you knew sweet fuck all, you'd know that it's their trademark that they have to defend, and that copyright is not an issue in this story.
Let me introduce you to sweet fuck all, by pointing out that every single news story said that Mike Rowe received a notice of "copyright infringement," which may be because under Canadian Trademark law, you cannot trademark a living person's name (at least, not until it's a distinctive mark). It may also be because the idiots reporting it didn't know the difference, but if that's the case, count the poor 17-year-old as one of them, since he wrote on his own site that he had received notice of "copyright infringement."
As I understand the word, and if you Google you see that the word simply means a belief that there is only one single God.
Now a place that is polytheistic could also be intollerant to the point that you could be in trouble if you don't conform to the majority belief. (Polytheistic = belief in multiple gods.) If you don't believe in our defined set of gods, you are in big trouble!
Are you certain about that? Remember, if you have a grievance with a utility company and you file your complaint with both them and with the local regulatory agency, you don't continue to accrue damages against yourself until the situation is resolved through mediation or through court order.
That's utility companies. Utilities are a special class of goods that the government and society have decided *everyone* should have access to, so they are regulated differently from "optional" stuff (like food, clothing, and housing). Software is not a utility, and is not so regulated.
SCO can simply say that the license fee is $X now, and $X+Y*Z after they win (obligatory guffaw). No regulation can prevent them from raising their prices.
If I ever happened to find a Mars Rock, I would take a sledgehammer to it.
Wow - 57 Mars Rocks! - a record.
That would be funnier if not for this part of the story:
The meteorite - although in two fragments, they are classified as the same body - has been officially called the North-West Africa 1950, but has been nicknamed the Jules Verne, after the French author.
So, sorry, that's 1 x 57 = 1 in Martian Rock Math.;-)
Done. Wrote both my senators and my representative a detailed, point-by-point refutation of the letter. (Poor intern that gets stuck reading it.) Sent by email, but I may send by post too because those email forms have a nasty habit of removing line breaks.
If you're curious, here's a link to my response (in OO Writer format... shame on you if you have trouble with it;-)
I make $40,000 a year in a major city and I can barely stay afloat....The idea that somehow Americans are greedy is a load of bull. We are getting squeezed from all sides.
Keep in mind what the rest of the world sees.
They don't see you, hoping to marry a millionaire at 55 so you can retire (hey, it happens... happened to my mom in fact). They don't see me, working on a Master's degree and glad as hell I'm graduating before our fees go up another 40% next year (on top of the 30% this year). They don't see my cousin, who pays about $600/month out of pocket for medical expenses (diabetes and so on), because it's cheaper than the $700 she'd have to pay for health insurance.
They see Ford Motor Co., Halliburton, and Michael Dell smiling at them and telling them how great it is to be an American. Wouldn't you hate us too? We're a country built not on opportunity, but on opportunists. Somehow the richest country in the world also has the highest child poverty rate of all first-world nations. And, given our amazing representative political system, we must like it that way, right?
From the article: The team that found it was led by experienced meteorite hunters Carine Bidaut and Bruno Fectay, who have now found six rocks from Mars - a record.
Interesting that they seem to know *just* where to find Martian rocks.
Ah, I see. Good point. The lack of a control group for comparison (at least, in the reporting of the study) does leave some questions. It would be very interesting to see the complete study, which probably does address at least a little of this.
Well my bank account takes a hit when they break down. My brother has a 2000 Nissan Altima and already needs work done on his back windows.
And? My 1997 Honda del Sol never needed work on any of the three power windows in the six years I owned it. Neither did my mom's 1995 Sentra, which she drove for about seven years.
Maybe the Altima is faulty... and maybe your brother is mean to his windows.;-)
You know what they say about men who drive big cars.
Better than that... one day, I was driving down the street, and saw a early-'90's Honda Civic Coupe with a license plate frame that read: "Men who drive small cars... have big peckers."
He was cute, too. I thought about honking and waving... but I think I had a boyfriend at the time already.
I'm not sure about the physics involved, but my experience tells me that the going back and forth technique seems to have rather diminishing returns... often I find that redoing the whole thing (driving back out on the street and revising my entrance vector) is more worthwhile.
Maybe Finnish cars are different... but it sounds like you're just not terribly good at parallel parking. What you're describing is restarting the process, because you weren't doing it right to begin with. If you go back and forth several times before realizing that you got the wrong angle in the first place, you may want to analyze your methods and see if you can improve your skills at judging the space initially. Some spaces just require some back-and-forth, but you have to get close enough in to start with.
Me, I had a terrible time with parallel parking for the first couple years I was driving. A friend told me "how" to do it, but it just didn't quite make sense to me (he described targeting in terms of the headlights of the car behind in the rear-view mirror). Then one day, it just congealed, and I've been able to park ever since. The real test was when a friend was moving, and had a one-bedroom U-Haul... and there was one parking spot on the whole block. After I parked that thing without touching either of the cars it was between, I became known among friends as the parking goddess.
I think once or twice I've even taken over the wheel when my husband was having trouble getting into a tight space... though that might have been my ex.
I'm afraid I'm having a lot of trouble following this post.
Nothing wrong with saying that most of the women you know haven't the foggiest notion about tech. Same is true about most of the women I know. I'm in a pretty small category. Same as when I was in high school and was the token female at the RPG gatherings on Friday and Sunday evenings. The problem is when people make the logical leap that they should assume women don't know about technology, and don't *want* to know. I used to do phone support for a small division of a cable network... there were people who wanted someone to magically fix everything while they're away at lunch, but some wanted to know *why* it broke, and what they could do to fix it next time if it came up again. Most of them were female. I was perfectly happy to accomodate the user, whatever their level of desired knowledge was.
I don't assume that men don't cook. I know men who cook. Most of them are gay. I know a lot of gay men, possibly because I live in a city which actually has a rainbow logo on the side of the cop's cars (or it might be the other way around... it's not like it's all my neighbors that are the cooking guys). My husband is almost laughable in his reluctance to get involved in food preparation. It's slightly ironic, because while his mother hates to cook, his father discovered many years ago that he loves it, and has become quite the gourmet.
Let me tell you about my experiences purchasing a sewing machine... are there even surveys that cover the opposite extreme? No? Excuse me if I cite bias and disregard it completely then.
I can imagine it was pretty... annoying, to put it mildly. You're in a unique position for having some clue what women go through shopping for electronics. Of course, more people need home electronics than sewing machines, and the gender crossover is probably much higher for gadgets.
Not selling product, just begging votes, but still... check it out. Is that or is that not true advertising genius? And the site content's pretty damn excellent too.
Ugh! I clicked... I didn't *want* another window opened, much less three of them! Very annoying. Possibly not their fault, might just be how the site they're linking to is coded, but...
At best, popup ads and other annoyances seems penny-wise and pound-foolish, sacrificing long-term customer satisfaction of the many who are subject to these ads and overall brand reputation for a potential short-term boost in sales from the few customers that do click through on annoying ads. For example, because I hate their ads so much, I would never buy any product from X10.
I agree. Unfortunately, since I almost never see popup ads anymore, I may not entirely know who to avoid...
This thread is becoming a "how to block adds" thread, but we need to remember that these adds are keeping our sites free. I, for one, actually click on adds some times and have been known to purchase goods through the less intrusive adds both because the stuff looked good and I wanted to help that site out with it's free content.
But there's a big difference between choosing how you present your advertisements and simply giving over a larger and larger space to some random ad company whose only goal is to distract from your content. Google and Neopets are both sites that integrate advertising into the use of the site in an unobtrusive manner, and make money providing ad-supported content. (Granted, Neopets is now starting to make bank on merchandising, but that's a different story.)
This man's wife is the exception, not the norm. I'm sorry if you feel that it is wrong to ever stereotype people; you may very well be right. It is not practical to do so, however. Speaking from experience as some one who has built a house, the vast majority of women have no idea what is or is not even feasible, much less what is the best solution overall in a construction problem. While it may inconvience the OP to have to repeat everything his competent wife has said, and it may piss off his competent wife, what about the dozens of incompetent (in the construction field) wives who tell them one thing, and their more competent husbands who tell them another?
It is important to realize who your customer is, and to lay out the job to begin with (it's a *contract*, after all). If you don't get that the first time, ok, maybe it's a simple oversight. If you don't get it repeatedly, *you* have a problem.
If your customer (no matter what gender) suggests something that is going to significantly raise the cost of the project, extend the time to complete, or reduce the efficacy of the results, it may be your job to educate them on this. If you verify that they understand this, it's time to do what they ask (after making whatever necessary amendments to the contract).
It would be interesting if the original poster would come back with specific examples of instructions, however. I get the impression that it's more like "Please don't work on this next Tuesday, we have a visitor coming over" rather than "No, I think I'd rather have the entire bathroom done in water-base paint."
Let's see... guys I know who cook: best friend's husband, not gay. Friend from school, gay. Other friend from school, gay. Family friend since birth, gay. His partner, gay. Father-in-law, not gay.
Now, if I'd said, based on my own personal experience, "Most men who cook are gay" you'd have a point, but I did specifically say "most of the ones *I* know are gay." This is a true statement. What's the problem with that?
Riigghht....let's throw common sense out the window because of some nebulous survey. We have been given ALL the important details about this survey. Clearly the use of the word "professional" means that it is 100% accurate and above question.
It's throwing common sense out the window to say "this survey is obviously bogus, because I haven't personally observed the same thing." You haven't questioned their methods, brought up possible sampling biases, suggested alternate causes that might produce their results... you've said "This can't be right, because it doesn't look that way to me when I go shopping."
Then, when I started talking about how obviously this information is wrong, you'd respond saying that women just happen to drive their sports cars on different roads than me. (It doesn't matter if a broad sampling of posters from across the country agree that the survey is wrong, you'd still want to believe it.)
First of all, I used to drive a sports car.;-) Second of all, I don't really make a habit of observing who drives (or buys) sports cars. I also am WELL AWARE that the person who buys the car isn't necessarily the person who uses it (same with tech). So if I read about a survey, with no obvious motive to deceive, that found that women spend more on sports cars than men do, I'd be slightly surprised, but I wouldn't automatically throw it out because I don't see women in sports car dealerships all the time. (For one thing, not all sports cars come from sports car dealerships... pretty much every major maker has at least one sport model these days. Mine was a Honda.)
You also haven't suggested *why* they would go about creating a bogus survey that gives these results. Care to share? Or is this just part of rejecting any information that doesn't fit your own personal worldview?
The difference between trademark and copyright (and let's not forget patents) is a topic covered in the first week of Intellectual Property 101, and anyone with a stake in IP (like users or developers of open-source software) needs to understand which is which. Saying "copyright" when you're talking about a "trademark" is like typing "rm" when you mean "ls": it's your own fault if the shell misunderstands you.
Yes, yes, yes... but then the laws in Canada, where Mike Rowe lives, are a little different. For example:
A trade-mark is registrable if it is not:
(a) a word that is primarily merely the name or the surname of an individual who is living or has died within the preceding thirty years (unless it has been so used in Canada by the applicant or his predecessor in title as to have become distinctive at the date of filing an application for its registration); . . . "Distinctive", in relation to a trade-mark, means a trade-mark that actually distinguishes the wares or services in association with which it is used by its owner, from the wares or services of others, or is adapted so to distinguish them.
So you see, they might have a bit of a problem claiming that a name which, primarily, is the guy's first and last name, without any funny spelling or anything, is trademark infringement... since that name isn't trademarkable unless it's already distinctive. On that they could have a claim, but they may actually have an easier time getting their way under Canadian copyright law, which I'm not nearly as familiar with as US copyright law... are you?
Well in the US he could look for pro-bono. He's probably find a firm willing to help. He could probably get some 'go forward' advice for free. where the lawyer tells him his options during a short consultation. Usually you an get this for free.
He already has pro bono services lined up. But I'm guessing he didn't at the time he responded with $10k.
For those who describe their systems as 'boxen', do you order multiple 'boxen' of corn flakes also?
As my husband tells me, "boxen" is the multiple of computer box. It does not apply to any other kind of box.
Sort of like "mouses" are multiple computer pointing devices...
Was this a high school that you are referring to when you say that you could get expelled for having a calculator or even a middle school?
I'm not the original poster, but I remember the days when you could get in trouble (maybe not expelled, but whatever) for having a calculator... or at least for using it in a math class.
It didn't much help me buckle down and do my long division homework when my mom said "it's ridiculous that they spend so much time making you do this... after all, everyone has calculators now!"
Of course, now I sometimes just do the math in my head, because the calculator on my phone is somewhat tedious to use. But it depends on what mood I'm in.
Only the GF-888 was bigger - and I only ever saw two of these. One was on a beach entertaining pretty much the ENTIRE beach. It had TWO handles! I shudder to think how many 'D' cells it took to power it up as my 777 used 12 of 'em!
Wasn't it in "Do the Right Thing" where the guy goes into the shop with his boom box and asks for "12 D Energizer batteries"? I don't know why that has stuck in my head all these years...
If you knew sweet fuck all, you'd know that it's their trademark that they have to defend, and that copyright is not an issue in this story.
Let me introduce you to sweet fuck all, by pointing out that every single news story said that Mike Rowe received a notice of "copyright infringement," which may be because under Canadian Trademark law, you cannot trademark a living person's name (at least, not until it's a distinctive mark). It may also be because the idiots reporting it didn't know the difference, but if that's the case, count the poor 17-year-old as one of them, since he wrote on his own site that he had received notice of "copyright infringement."
Monotheistic is the wrong word.
;-)
As I understand the word, and if you Google you see that the word simply means a belief that there is only one single God.
Now a place that is polytheistic could also be intollerant to the point that you could be in trouble if you don't conform to the majority belief. (Polytheistic = belief in multiple gods.) If you don't believe in our defined set of gods, you are in big trouble!
How about homotheistic and heterotheistic?
Are you certain about that? Remember, if you have a grievance with a utility company and you file your complaint with both them and with the local regulatory agency, you don't continue to accrue damages against yourself until the situation is resolved through mediation or through court order.
That's utility companies. Utilities are a special class of goods that the government and society have decided *everyone* should have access to, so they are regulated differently from "optional" stuff (like food, clothing, and housing). Software is not a utility, and is not so regulated.
SCO can simply say that the license fee is $X now, and $X+Y*Z after they win (obligatory guffaw). No regulation can prevent them from raising their prices.
Wow - 57 Mars Rocks! - a record.
That would be funnier if not for this part of the story:So, sorry, that's 1 x 57 = 1 in Martian Rock Math.
Done. Wrote both my senators and my representative a detailed, point-by-point refutation of the letter. (Poor intern that gets stuck reading it.) Sent by email, but I may send by post too because those email forms have a nasty habit of removing line breaks.
;-)
If you're curious, here's a link to my response (in OO Writer format... shame on you if you have trouble with it
I make $40,000 a year in a major city and I can barely stay afloat....The idea that somehow Americans are greedy is a load of bull. We are getting squeezed from all sides.
Keep in mind what the rest of the world sees.
They don't see you, hoping to marry a millionaire at 55 so you can retire (hey, it happens... happened to my mom in fact). They don't see me, working on a Master's degree and glad as hell I'm graduating before our fees go up another 40% next year (on top of the 30% this year). They don't see my cousin, who pays about $600/month out of pocket for medical expenses (diabetes and so on), because it's cheaper than the $700 she'd have to pay for health insurance.
They see Ford Motor Co., Halliburton, and Michael Dell smiling at them and telling them how great it is to be an American. Wouldn't you hate us too? We're a country built not on opportunity, but on opportunists. Somehow the richest country in the world also has the highest child poverty rate of all first-world nations. And, given our amazing representative political system, we must like it that way, right?
From the article: The team that found it was led by experienced meteorite hunters Carine Bidaut and Bruno Fectay, who have now found six rocks from Mars - a record.
Interesting that they seem to know *just* where to find Martian rocks.
Quick! Get them! They're Martian spies!
Ah, I see. Good point. The lack of a control group for comparison (at least, in the reporting of the study) does leave some questions. It would be very interesting to see the complete study, which probably does address at least a little of this.
Well my bank account takes a hit when they break down. My brother has a 2000 Nissan Altima and already needs work done on his back windows.
;-)
And? My 1997 Honda del Sol never needed work on any of the three power windows in the six years I owned it. Neither did my mom's 1995 Sentra, which she drove for about seven years.
Maybe the Altima is faulty... and maybe your brother is mean to his windows.
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You know what they say about men who drive big cars.
Better than that... one day, I was driving down the street, and saw a early-'90's Honda Civic Coupe with a license plate frame that read: "Men who drive small cars... have big peckers."
He was cute, too. I thought about honking and waving... but I think I had a boyfriend at the time already.
I'm not sure about the physics involved, but my experience tells me that the going back and forth technique seems to have rather diminishing returns... often I find that redoing the whole thing (driving back out on the street and revising my entrance vector) is more worthwhile.
Maybe Finnish cars are different... but it sounds like you're just not terribly good at parallel parking. What you're describing is restarting the process, because you weren't doing it right to begin with. If you go back and forth several times before realizing that you got the wrong angle in the first place, you may want to analyze your methods and see if you can improve your skills at judging the space initially. Some spaces just require some back-and-forth, but you have to get close enough in to start with.
Me, I had a terrible time with parallel parking for the first couple years I was driving. A friend told me "how" to do it, but it just didn't quite make sense to me (he described targeting in terms of the headlights of the car behind in the rear-view mirror). Then one day, it just congealed, and I've been able to park ever since. The real test was when a friend was moving, and had a one-bedroom U-Haul... and there was one parking spot on the whole block. After I parked that thing without touching either of the cars it was between, I became known among friends as the parking goddess.
I think once or twice I've even taken over the wheel when my husband was having trouble getting into a tight space... though that might have been my ex.
Ever heard the saying 'Give a woman an inch, and she'll try and park a car in it'?
Here we go, begging for a "-1, cliche" mod...
We can't help it. All our lives we've been told that this [holds up thumb and forefinger] is eight inches.
I'm afraid I'm having a lot of trouble following this post.
Nothing wrong with saying that most of the women you know haven't the foggiest notion about tech. Same is true about most of the women I know. I'm in a pretty small category. Same as when I was in high school and was the token female at the RPG gatherings on Friday and Sunday evenings. The problem is when people make the logical leap that they should assume women don't know about technology, and don't *want* to know. I used to do phone support for a small division of a cable network... there were people who wanted someone to magically fix everything while they're away at lunch, but some wanted to know *why* it broke, and what they could do to fix it next time if it came up again. Most of them were female. I was perfectly happy to accomodate the user, whatever their level of desired knowledge was.
I don't assume that men don't cook. I know men who cook. Most of them are gay. I know a lot of gay men, possibly because I live in a city which actually has a rainbow logo on the side of the cop's cars (or it might be the other way around... it's not like it's all my neighbors that are the cooking guys). My husband is almost laughable in his reluctance to get involved in food preparation. It's slightly ironic, because while his mother hates to cook, his father discovered many years ago that he loves it, and has become quite the gourmet.
Let me tell you about my experiences purchasing a sewing machine... are there even surveys that cover the opposite extreme? No? Excuse me if I cite bias and disregard it completely then.
I can imagine it was pretty... annoying, to put it mildly. You're in a unique position for having some clue what women go through shopping for electronics. Of course, more people need home electronics than sewing machines, and the gender crossover is probably much higher for gadgets.
Not selling product, just begging votes, but still... check it out. Is that or is that not true advertising genius? And the site content's pretty damn excellent too.
Ugh! I clicked... I didn't *want* another window opened, much less three of them! Very annoying. Possibly not their fault, might just be how the site they're linking to is coded, but...
At best, popup ads and other annoyances seems penny-wise and pound-foolish, sacrificing long-term customer satisfaction of the many who are subject to these ads and overall brand reputation for a potential short-term boost in sales from the few customers that do click through on annoying ads. For example, because I hate their ads so much, I would never buy any product from X10.
I agree. Unfortunately, since I almost never see popup ads anymore, I may not entirely know who to avoid...
This thread is becoming a "how to block adds" thread, but we need to remember that these adds are keeping our sites free. I, for one, actually click on adds some times and have been known to purchase goods through the less intrusive adds both because the stuff looked good and I wanted to help that site out with it's free content.
But there's a big difference between choosing how you present your advertisements and simply giving over a larger and larger space to some random ad company whose only goal is to distract from your content. Google and Neopets are both sites that integrate advertising into the use of the site in an unobtrusive manner, and make money providing ad-supported content. (Granted, Neopets is now starting to make bank on merchandising, but that's a different story.)
This man's wife is the exception, not the norm. I'm sorry if you feel that it is wrong to ever stereotype people; you may very well be right. It is not practical to do so, however. Speaking from experience as some one who has built a house, the vast majority of women have no idea what is or is not even feasible, much less what is the best solution overall in a construction problem. While it may inconvience the OP to have to repeat everything his competent wife has said, and it may piss off his competent wife, what about the dozens of incompetent (in the construction field) wives who tell them one thing, and their more competent husbands who tell them another?
It is important to realize who your customer is, and to lay out the job to begin with (it's a *contract*, after all). If you don't get that the first time, ok, maybe it's a simple oversight. If you don't get it repeatedly, *you* have a problem.
If your customer (no matter what gender) suggests something that is going to significantly raise the cost of the project, extend the time to complete, or reduce the efficacy of the results, it may be your job to educate them on this. If you verify that they understand this, it's time to do what they ask (after making whatever necessary amendments to the contract).
It would be interesting if the original poster would come back with specific examples of instructions, however. I get the impression that it's more like "Please don't work on this next Tuesday, we have a visitor coming over" rather than "No, I think I'd rather have the entire bathroom done in water-base paint."
Let's see... guys I know who cook: best friend's husband, not gay. Friend from school, gay. Other friend from school, gay. Family friend since birth, gay. His partner, gay. Father-in-law, not gay.
Now, if I'd said, based on my own personal experience, "Most men who cook are gay" you'd have a point, but I did specifically say "most of the ones *I* know are gay." This is a true statement. What's the problem with that?
Riigghht....let's throw common sense out the window because of some nebulous survey. We have been given ALL the important details about this survey. Clearly the use of the word "professional" means that it is 100% accurate and above question.
;-) Second of all, I don't really make a habit of observing who drives (or buys) sports cars. I also am WELL AWARE that the person who buys the car isn't necessarily the person who uses it (same with tech). So if I read about a survey, with no obvious motive to deceive, that found that women spend more on sports cars than men do, I'd be slightly surprised, but I wouldn't automatically throw it out because I don't see women in sports car dealerships all the time. (For one thing, not all sports cars come from sports car dealerships... pretty much every major maker has at least one sport model these days. Mine was a Honda.)
It's throwing common sense out the window to say "this survey is obviously bogus, because I haven't personally observed the same thing." You haven't questioned their methods, brought up possible sampling biases, suggested alternate causes that might produce their results... you've said "This can't be right, because it doesn't look that way to me when I go shopping."
Then, when I started talking about how obviously this information is wrong, you'd respond saying that women just happen to drive their sports cars on different roads than me. (It doesn't matter if a broad sampling of posters from across the country agree that the survey is wrong, you'd still want to believe it.)
First of all, I used to drive a sports car.
You also haven't suggested *why* they would go about creating a bogus survey that gives these results. Care to share? Or is this just part of rejecting any information that doesn't fit your own personal worldview?
Yes, yes, yes... but then the laws in Canada, where Mike Rowe lives, are a little different. For example:So you see, they might have a bit of a problem claiming that a name which, primarily, is the guy's first and last name, without any funny spelling or anything, is trademark infringement... since that name isn't trademarkable unless it's already distinctive. On that they could have a claim, but they may actually have an easier time getting their way under Canadian copyright law, which I'm not nearly as familiar with as US copyright law... are you?
Well in the US he could look for pro-bono. He's probably find a firm willing to help. He could probably get some 'go forward' advice for free. where the lawyer tells him his options during a short consultation. Usually you an get this for free.
He already has pro bono services lined up. But I'm guessing he didn't at the time he responded with $10k.