I will admit that anybody can make mistakes, and the hypothetical "always right" person doesn't exist, so the hypothesis is rather nonsensical.
And so you agree with me? Because this statement runs counter to the rest of what you've said. So stop contradicting yourself and pull together a decent argument, or gtfo.
The USA has been forcing Canada to export bottled water and other natural resources for years. It isn't fair, but it what it is. Now that china is standing against the USA, of course americans are going to cry. They're on the receiving end and don't like taking it in the rear.
Wow. If I paid for windows through my cost of living, do I also support the NRA, KKK and USA simply for being alive? I mean, according to you, microsoft is a big, evil entity that sticks it's nose in everywhere. So does the NRA, KKK and USA. Since they're similar in action, are they also similar in 'evil'-ness?
Seriously, do people fall for your broken-logic-arguments?
I tend to view the office as the place I work, not the place I make friends.
That's great if you're single and still hanging with your highschool buddies. Wait until you're married, living in a new city, and don't know anyone. Work is a great place to meet new friends. Since I probably spend 1/3 of my day at work, I also expect it to be halfway pleasant. I'm not being paid to be mr. nice-guy so that someone else can be mr-no-tact-a-hole. We're both being paid to get a job done, and I don't see why he isn't expected to be courteous and pleasant, the same I *have* to be, in order to deal with him.
I'd rather have Dr. House as a doctor than some wimpy doctor who knows nothing, as long as I know it before meeting him! He may not care about me as a person but he sure care a lot to do his job right!
Two points. A) Dr. House isn't real, and B) He frequently gets things wrong.
If you ever watch house with someone who's a medical professional (nurse, ambulance driver), you'd know that most of the stuff they encounter can be fixed by simply treating the symptoms without making it worse.
who valued his intelligence and knowledge, and could overlook his lack of tact in dealing with some people
When I'm at work, I'm not paid to overlook a lack of tact. I'm paid to do a job, and when some loudmouthed genius starts pissing me off, I ignore him because there is no nice way to shut people up like that. No matter what they do, they get louder, and worse. Since I prefer to enjoy where I work, I'm forced to either shut up and deal (making work less enjoyable) or tell my boss that so-and-so is making my life difficult. It doesn't matter how smart he is, because if one person is making the rest of the team miserable, then either that person or the team needs to be changed. And lets face it, getting rid of the smart but annoying guy is a better move than keeping him and losing the less-productive (individually, not collectively) team.
Since I'm always right I prefer to work with nice persons without initiative that are gullible to my points of view and always smile.
Well, I prefer to work with self-confident a-holes who think I want to work with them, but are actually rather myopic and don't understand that I'm going to free-ride my way into management and blame them if things go wrong.
At least when I know they're an a-hole, it doesn't make me feel so bad stepping on them on the way up.
I always feel like niceness is their way of compensating for absolutely sucking
Sounds like someone had a bad experience as a child. Do you surround yourself with idiots and abrasive personalities? The people I generally spend my time with are generally nice people. Maybe you should try to find someone nice who'll spend time with you. You might change your mind.
You actually need to be fairly strong willed at times to properly get your point across! That can be perceived as being a "jerk" by the person on the receiving end at the moment.
No you don't. You need to have a persuasive argument and be speaking with rational people. If you surround yourself with people who are always "right", when life is mostly subjective, you'll be miserable.
Perhaps this explains why the IT crowd is mocked so easily - people who convinced that being 'right' makes them superior are suddenly thrust into the real world, where there are very few 'right' answers. It's easy to see who doesn't fit in, and when those people start complaining that the world should change to accept their brillance... well... the world continues to mock them. Because, lets face it - being right doesn't count for everything, and in a job where being 'right' is subjective (almost everywhere except IT), then niceness matters a lot more than competence. People can always learn and do better next time - but you can't take back the death threats you sent while upset.
Now, I suppose there are life and death situations where being right means survival. But seriously, how many people live in those situations? Not even doctors can choose 'right' or 'wrong'. Doctors choose what is 'best' in their opinion, which is why doctors sometimes differ in treatment recommendations. I have a hard time believing that a) the slashdot crowd works in life/death situations where right is not subjective, and b) that it is impossible to be both 'right' and 'nice'. Seriously, isn't this just creating a false dichotomy?
And I would still be paying $4000-$5000 every 3 months so I can get a piece of paper saying that I'm qualified to do something that I'm fully capable of doing right now. I just need to spend $30,000 to prove it, apparently. Seriously, a $200 charge on top of that isn't even 1%.
And don't give me that bull about open source being cheaper to administer. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Considering the MSNDAA benefits the school gets, I think that microsoft solutions are probably cheaper in this situation.
I guess if you want to run Windows without anti-virus, you'd want to bypass it
Or, if like my current school, the only real options for antivirus are norton and mcafee. For some reason, they used to disallow avast, nod32 and bitdefender.
UoGuelph is big on OSX as well. Something about a unix backend makes them comfortable. My theory is that the school pays for the computers, and the profs get to pick the most expensive one that will suit their needs. Thus, something with OSX.
I did tech support for an ISP, and they had the same policy: if you were behind a router and had connectivity issues, we'd ask you to connect one computer directly to the modem, bypassing the router
... As did I. Now, when I call for tech support, I *know* that they have no way of checking that, so long as I don't tell them my IP is 192.168.1.1.
If you have a router between you and the campus network, you are required to remove it and directly connect to the cable modem or other gateway device that they provide.
What happens if you have a linux box serving out connections to other people? It is technically a computer hooked up to the network...
Dropping support for Windows and Mac will significantly lower the overall cost of attending college, however.
How? I'm paying $100-$150 A BOOK, minimum of 5 books a SEMESTER, and going for 3 semesters a YEAR, over at least 4 years.
If I spend $100 once on a windows license, and $100 on office (or $29 on snow leopard and $130 on office for mac)... that's quite insignificant compared to the cost of textbooks alone. Nevermind the fact that generally windows comes with the laptop, that schools often have discounted licenses available, and we havn't even started to discuss the cost of actually being IN CLASS.
Seriously. It's like you're saying the cost of a lighter is preventing you from starting a meth habit.
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I will admit that anybody can make mistakes, and the hypothetical "always right" person doesn't exist, so the hypothesis is rather nonsensical.
And so you agree with me? Because this statement runs counter to the rest of what you've said. So stop contradicting yourself and pull together a decent argument, or gtfo.
The other two. Not the other three, eh? Seriously, you need to work on your FUD skills.
Don't blame gillette, blame apple ... or microsoft! (It's the cool thing to do)
Do we need new versions of windows, or of ipods?
buuuullllll sheeet.
The USA has been forcing Canada to export bottled water and other natural resources for years. It isn't fair, but it what it is. Now that china is standing against the USA, of course americans are going to cry. They're on the receiving end and don't like taking it in the rear.
Wow. If I paid for windows through my cost of living, do I also support the NRA, KKK and USA simply for being alive? I mean, according to you, microsoft is a big, evil entity that sticks it's nose in everywhere. So does the NRA, KKK and USA. Since they're similar in action, are they also similar in 'evil'-ness?
Seriously, do people fall for your broken-logic-arguments?
I tend to view the office as the place I work, not the place I make friends.
That's great if you're single and still hanging with your highschool buddies. Wait until you're married, living in a new city, and don't know anyone. Work is a great place to meet new friends. Since I probably spend 1/3 of my day at work, I also expect it to be halfway pleasant. I'm not being paid to be mr. nice-guy so that someone else can be mr-no-tact-a-hole. We're both being paid to get a job done, and I don't see why he isn't expected to be courteous and pleasant, the same I *have* to be, in order to deal with him.
I'd rather have Dr. House as a doctor than some wimpy doctor who knows nothing, as long as I know it before meeting him! He may not care about me as a person but he sure care a lot to do his job right!
Two points. A) Dr. House isn't real, and B) He frequently gets things wrong.
If you ever watch house with someone who's a medical professional (nurse, ambulance driver), you'd know that most of the stuff they encounter can be fixed by simply treating the symptoms without making it worse.
who valued his intelligence and knowledge, and could overlook his lack of tact in dealing with some people
When I'm at work, I'm not paid to overlook a lack of tact. I'm paid to do a job, and when some loudmouthed genius starts pissing me off, I ignore him because there is no nice way to shut people up like that. No matter what they do, they get louder, and worse. Since I prefer to enjoy where I work, I'm forced to either shut up and deal (making work less enjoyable) or tell my boss that so-and-so is making my life difficult. It doesn't matter how smart he is, because if one person is making the rest of the team miserable, then either that person or the team needs to be changed. And lets face it, getting rid of the smart but annoying guy is a better move than keeping him and losing the less-productive (individually, not collectively) team.
The idea that a person like this can be always right is stupid
Fixed that for ya.
Jerks are often the people who *think* they're always right, but often are wrong quite a lot.
Yup. Most jerks I know believe that there is only one right way to do things - their way.
Since I'm always right I prefer to work with nice persons without initiative that are gullible to my points of view and always smile.
Well, I prefer to work with self-confident a-holes who think I want to work with them, but are actually rather myopic and don't understand that I'm going to free-ride my way into management and blame them if things go wrong.
At least when I know they're an a-hole, it doesn't make me feel so bad stepping on them on the way up.
I always feel like niceness is their way of compensating for absolutely sucking
Sounds like someone had a bad experience as a child. Do you surround yourself with idiots and abrasive personalities? The people I generally spend my time with are generally nice people. Maybe you should try to find someone nice who'll spend time with you. You might change your mind.
Yes, this is why we put the liberal art majors in their own building.
This is also why engineering and comp. sci have their own buildings.
... etc. etc. etc.
And administration, and food services, and maintenance, and bio-chem, and
You actually need to be fairly strong willed at times to properly get your point across! That can be perceived as being a "jerk" by the person on the receiving end at the moment.
No you don't. You need to have a persuasive argument and be speaking with rational people. If you surround yourself with people who are always "right", when life is mostly subjective, you'll be miserable.
... well ... the world continues to mock them. Because, lets face it - being right doesn't count for everything, and in a job where being 'right' is subjective (almost everywhere except IT), then niceness matters a lot more than competence. People can always learn and do better next time - but you can't take back the death threats you sent while upset.
Perhaps this explains why the IT crowd is mocked so easily - people who convinced that being 'right' makes them superior are suddenly thrust into the real world, where there are very few 'right' answers. It's easy to see who doesn't fit in, and when those people start complaining that the world should change to accept their brillance
Now, I suppose there are life and death situations where being right means survival. But seriously, how many people live in those situations? Not even doctors can choose 'right' or 'wrong'. Doctors choose what is 'best' in their opinion, which is why doctors sometimes differ in treatment recommendations. I have a hard time believing that a) the slashdot crowd works in life/death situations where right is not subjective, and b) that it is impossible to be both 'right' and 'nice'. Seriously, isn't this just creating a false dichotomy?
And I would still be paying $4000-$5000 every 3 months so I can get a piece of paper saying that I'm qualified to do something that I'm fully capable of doing right now. I just need to spend $30,000 to prove it, apparently. Seriously, a $200 charge on top of that isn't even 1%.
And don't give me that bull about open source being cheaper to administer. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Considering the MSNDAA benefits the school gets, I think that microsoft solutions are probably cheaper in this situation.
I rather liked the low memory use of nod32, but bitdefender ... meh. For now, I'm sticking with avast until I find something better.
I guess if you want to run Windows without anti-virus, you'd want to bypass it
Or, if like my current school, the only real options for antivirus are norton and mcafee. For some reason, they used to disallow avast, nod32 and bitdefender.
UoGuelph is big on OSX as well. Something about a unix backend makes them comfortable. My theory is that the school pays for the computers, and the profs get to pick the most expensive one that will suit their needs. Thus, something with OSX.
I did tech support for an ISP, and they had the same policy: if you were behind a router and had connectivity issues, we'd ask you to connect one computer directly to the modem, bypassing the router
If you have a router between you and the campus network, you are required to remove it and directly connect to the cable modem or other gateway device that they provide.
What happens if you have a linux box serving out connections to other people? It is technically a computer hooked up to the network ...
Won't somebody put our fantasy lives first?
Don't worry, just ask Justin Long!
where they still believe the myth that creative stuff can ONLY happen on macs
Myth? You mean, the media has been lying to me all this time?
Dropping support for Windows and Mac will significantly lower the overall cost of attending college, however.
How? I'm paying $100-$150 A BOOK, minimum of 5 books a SEMESTER, and going for 3 semesters a YEAR, over at least 4 years.
... that's quite insignificant compared to the cost of textbooks alone. Nevermind the fact that generally windows comes with the laptop, that schools often have discounted licenses available, and we havn't even started to discuss the cost of actually being IN CLASS.
If I spend $100 once on a windows license, and $100 on office (or $29 on snow leopard and $130 on office for mac)
Seriously. It's like you're saying the cost of a lighter is preventing you from starting a meth habit.
Read the man page for sudoers for the specifics
Are you new here?
Yeah, my current school does this as well. A little magic called 'cca-bypass' and google will help remove this requirement.