Gospod, Gospoda, I give you the master of the obvious. I never said these days are any better and I qualified my geography with the "USAian" reference. Pissing match. Pissing match.
If a kid sneaks into that seat, suddenly it's $10 lost. No, dumbass. That's trepassing. If the kid yells "Fire" after sneaking in, then it's criminal trespass. Remind me to NEVER leave anything of value where you might consider it a loss if it were to come up missing.
Wish you were born thirty years earlier!? There's a thought. Let's see: Bad Drugs, a war no-one wanted, race riots and the specter of inflation. Whoo hoo. Let's bring it back! (And that's just what was affecting the USAians). Still, woulda been cool to be a fly on the wall at Bell Labs about that time. huzzah.
It would also seem that an artificial language would have a large barrier to entry, due to the limited number of people that know them, the lack of a cultural presence to preserve them, and the need for their existance at all.
You gotta love the "Economics" school of linguistics. Where did you go to college Texas A&M?
Language is evolutionary. Well, maybe. I think English will be the base because it is not orthogonal like more synthetic languages. This is in spite of all of our 6th grade grammar teachers trying to jackboot a standard on us. For example, my Slovene friend says: "Please, no be smoking" I understand it. Sure, it is a grammatical nightmare. But when I asked her if I could say the same thing like "Ne kadite, hvala" she said it really didn't mean the same thing as the more sensical "Hvala, ker ne kadite." But her statement in English made "imperfect" sense
English adapts along curved lines. Evolve implies adapt. English will probably do the job best not because it will change, but because of its current nature: the Swiss Army Knife of Languages.
Python is just plain awful. No freedom. To regimented and way too much reinvention of the wheel for my tastes. Dance with the one what brung you. Perl. Perl in 1987. Perl in 1994. Perl in 2000. comments.pl?
NO. Throttling doesn't work, especially when you have institutional policies almost guaranteeing as fast a connection as possible. At my university, where I work as a sysadmin while in grad school, we are getting ready to pull the plug on Napster. A two day test showed a 45 to 60 percent drop in bandwidth usage when access was gunned. We have a Technology Fee which forces the students to pay 100 bucks more a semester for high-speed access in their dorm rooms. When the bandwidth dries up and the helpdesk phones call with students screaming about the fees they pay, then drastic measures should be taken. Of course the irony is that they are the ones hogging with Napster. Napster is not content to a user anymore than some cat using the phone book to find your house to rob it is content. As a musician, I have deep problems with people stealing music from artists and their investors and I have a problem with a service that tells them which house has its doors unlocked and where the silver and china is.
I used to post to comp.lang.perl.misc, but I got sooooooo friggin' tired to dealing with the recalcitrant flamers there that I gave up. If you gave a bit of advice to the shunned (i.e. a script kiddie or someone having problems with a Matt Wright CGI) you were pounced upon with venom unabated. If you retorted, you were killfiled. Now I know that such newsgroups are not necessarily help discussions, but if the answer is readily apparent, then why not shoot back some help? The party line is this: "If you help, then they will come back." This stance is anathema to good discussion, good didacticism, and good taste. It also dehumanizes the poster by telling them that their problem is not as important as a very, very dry discussion on the merits of derefencing arrays with backslashes or with interpolation. If I were to post this exact message in comp.lang.misc.perl or another elitist newsgroup I would be killfiled by the old hands and flamed mercilessly by others, and, even, put on automailers by the really nasty.( Don't deny it, I've seen you.) I once did a quick little script that pulled the weekly posts of every participant in the discussion on a few newsgroups and determined that given the number of posts by each person, the number of words on average in each post and the average rate of a modern typist, certain participants in the group had to spend at least three hours of their day posting to the group if they typed at a (conservative estimate) 35 words per minute. A lot of these replies comprised of: "RTFM" "perldoc -q" which is self-defeating, since people who are a bit ignorant of how perl works, for example, wouldn't know what this means. (Wait a minute, it's recursive. Just another example of why some of us need to come out of our holes.) "Get Lost, newbie" I'd fire them so quick their heads would spin. (BTW, this was written on break and the workplace, at least mine, is not a democracy). So if they were spending so much time posting to these groups, what was their motivation? To help? No, flamers amply display with their actions that help is not their motivation. To hurt? Yep, and a nasty pathology it is to practice this kind of hurt, because you must devote so much time to doing it. To get their ego stroked? More likely than any other reason. The end result: total silence, lack of free speech, lack of understanding, lack of caring. Let me say it for you *ploink*
You are engaging in faulty parallelism here. JFK's dream was antithetical to the Open Source movement. It was an appeal to the USAian notion of making things work. What about people outside of the US who would like to make things work or make things happen or bring things into existence or... The real gripe here is whether or not we should replace these fundamental utilities at all. They work just fine for me. Why replace them? Why have a competition to do this? If I think I could rewrite make or autoconf or add something to them I would contact the people in charge of those packages not have a competition to get people fired up to address perceived problems. If it ain't broke, don't fix it (as they say here in the South).
Umm. No, it didn't get me to question anything. The whole movie is a rather infantile riff on Decartes' *Cogito ergo sum* and his notion of an evil entity controlling reality. Sure the effects are cool and the fight scenes rock, but "I think therefore I am" hasn't been compelling in a couple of hundred years. I think Nietsche said best (paraphrased) "I think therefore I am? What is being assumed in that statement..." Now if anyone what's to talk a little Wittgenstein, Davidson or Rorty, let's rock.
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Gospod, Gospoda, I give you the master of the obvious.
I never said these days are any better and I qualified my geography with the "USAian" reference. Pissing match. Pissing match.
If a kid sneaks into that seat, suddenly it's $10 lost.
No, dumbass. That's trepassing. If the kid yells "Fire" after sneaking in, then it's criminal trespass. Remind me to NEVER leave anything of value where you might consider it a loss if it were to come up missing.
Wish you were born thirty years earlier!? There's a thought. Let's see: Bad Drugs, a war no-one wanted, race riots and the specter of inflation. Whoo hoo. Let's bring it back! (And that's just what was affecting the USAians). Still, woulda been cool to be a fly on the wall at Bell Labs about that time. huzzah.
You gotta love the "Economics" school of linguistics. Where did you go to college Texas A&M?
English adapts along curved lines. Evolve implies adapt. English will probably do the job best not because it will change, but because of its current nature: the Swiss Army Knife of Languages.
Python is just plain awful. No freedom. To regimented and way too much reinvention of the wheel for my tastes. Dance with the one what brung you. Perl. Perl in 1987. Perl in 1994. Perl in 2000. comments.pl?
NO. Throttling doesn't work, especially when you have institutional policies almost guaranteeing as fast a connection as possible. At my university, where I work as a sysadmin while in grad school, we are getting ready to pull the plug on Napster. A two day test showed a 45 to 60 percent drop in bandwidth usage when access was gunned. We have a Technology Fee which forces the students to pay 100 bucks more a semester for high-speed access in their dorm rooms. When the bandwidth dries up and the helpdesk phones call with students screaming about the fees they pay, then drastic measures should be taken. Of course the irony is that they are the ones hogging with Napster. Napster is not content to a user anymore than some cat using the phone book to find your house to rob it is content. As a musician, I have deep problems with people stealing music from artists and their investors and I have a problem with a service that tells them which house has its doors unlocked and where the silver and china is.
Um. What he said.
I used to post to comp.lang.perl.misc, but I got sooooooo friggin' tired to dealing with the recalcitrant flamers there that I gave up. If you gave a bit of advice to the shunned (i.e. a script kiddie or someone having problems with a Matt Wright CGI) you were pounced upon with venom unabated. If you retorted, you were killfiled. Now I know that such newsgroups are not necessarily help discussions, but if the answer is readily apparent, then why not shoot back some help? The party line is this: "If you help, then they will come back." This stance is anathema to good discussion, good didacticism, and good taste. It also dehumanizes the poster by telling them that their problem is not as important as a very, very dry discussion on the merits of derefencing arrays with backslashes or with interpolation. If I were to post this exact message in comp.lang.misc.perl or another elitist newsgroup I would be killfiled by the old hands and flamed mercilessly by others, and, even, put on automailers by the really nasty.( Don't deny it, I've seen you.) I once did a quick little script that pulled the weekly posts of every participant in the discussion on a few newsgroups and determined that given the number of posts by each person, the number of words on average in each post and the average rate of a modern typist, certain participants in the group had to spend at least three hours of their day posting to the group if they typed at a (conservative estimate) 35 words per minute. A lot of these replies comprised of: "RTFM" "perldoc -q" which is self-defeating, since people who are a bit ignorant of how perl works, for example, wouldn't know what this means. (Wait a minute, it's recursive. Just another example of why some of us need to come out of our holes.) "Get Lost, newbie" I'd fire them so quick their heads would spin. (BTW, this was written on break and the workplace, at least mine, is not a democracy). So if they were spending so much time posting to these groups, what was their motivation? To help? No, flamers amply display with their actions that help is not their motivation. To hurt? Yep, and a nasty pathology it is to practice this kind of hurt, because you must devote so much time to doing it. To get their ego stroked? More likely than any other reason. The end result: total silence, lack of free speech, lack of understanding, lack of caring. Let me say it for you *ploink*
You are engaging in faulty parallelism here. JFK's dream was antithetical to the Open Source movement. It was an appeal to the USAian notion of making things work. What about people outside of the US who would like to make things work or make things happen or bring things into existence or... The real gripe here is whether or not we should replace these fundamental utilities at all. They work just fine for me. Why replace them? Why have a competition to do this? If I think I could rewrite make or autoconf or add something to them I would contact the people in charge of those packages not have a competition to get people fired up to address perceived problems. If it ain't broke, don't fix it (as they say here in the South).
Umm. No, it didn't get me to question anything. The whole movie is a rather infantile riff on Decartes' *Cogito ergo sum* and his notion of an evil entity controlling reality. Sure the effects are cool and the fight scenes rock, but "I think therefore I am" hasn't been compelling in a couple of hundred years. I think Nietsche said best (paraphrased) "I think therefore I am? What is being assumed in that statement..." Now if anyone what's to talk a little Wittgenstein, Davidson or Rorty, let's rock.