The user should be responsible for their actions. A lot of things that IMO shouldn't be illegal have been made illegal though, in computers and everywhere. America is ran by idiots who feel they need to take away basic freedoms to protect us against us. Just review the words to The Unforgiven for a good review of life in America. [Sorry, listening to Metallica.] Other countries I can't give an opinion on since I haven't lived there but I'd assume they are mostly the same in this respect. It is the programmers responsibility to develop programs that poke into security holes they've found. This is how security evolves and it's the responsiblity of the coders to make sure claims that exploits are only theory are proven to be marketing bs so that companies are forced to fix things.
Exactly. As it is we have been able to lookup almost anything about anyone online for the past five years or so and more information is coming online all the time. Sure people pass privacy laws but as with all Internet laws they just don't work. I just assume everything I do is being videotaped and broadcast on the 11'o clock news and go on with my life. My best defense is that I'm just not that interesting to watch. Anyone who has been a system admin knows that after the first thrill of power it gets pretty old watching people. My basic question is the future of money and other forms of intellectual property in a future where encryption is at most a minor hassle. The opensource movement and nanotechnology are popping along here at the same time. Will be interesting to see capitalism stretched to the extreme and inversed. At the stock market level isn't this already prevalent? I mean if you think about it everyone's worth goes up the more people buy the stocks which is somewhat similar to how OSS works. If a lot of people suddenly pull everything they got out of the market then bang it all goes to hell. Sounds very close to a gift culture to me. It's just undercover.
My biggest problem is that I have to hold a real job to pay my rent and buy pizza and computer parts which blows quite a bit of my time. Does anyone else really feel like programming by the time they're done getting their brain pumped all day? Now and then I do but it leads to slow coding. I've always found I write my best code when I can do it in a solid stream. Y'know sit down and don't get up for 3 days and when you look you have some wonderful amazing piece of code. My usual attitude is once I've done it then I throw it out to the community (I've never actually licensed code but if I had anything I deemed perfect it'd probably be GPL'd instead of public domain) and let them build off of it. While some of my code has been highly used it is usually highly specialized stuff that 99.999% of people would have no idea what the description even meant. Any idea how to turn such things into a nice job that lets me code GPL'd stuff for a living?
I think magazines that are instructional such as my favorites Linux Journal and Dobbs will continue but tech moves to fast to make it into print before it is old news. Of course girly mags will last quite a while too. *coughs* Portable can be useful for some content.
My friends and I hacked a device into the mouse input when Doom was still new that allowed you to walk and shoot using nothing but your brain. It was just a cheap trick and had some flaws and took a lot of practice but hey it costs like $50 to make and was really fun.
Well since everyone else seems to have some sort of hatred for Walt Disney and/or Katz I figured I'd just note that I found this article interesting. The point that capitalist vultures swooped down and turned Disney from being about inspiring people to making money is incredibly sad. Sure he probably didn't think his vision of the future would come true but I've always felt that Walt Disney was one of those people who changed all those he came in contact with for the better and left the world a little better for his being here. If I could go back in time to meet one person Walt Disney would at least be very high on my list when I was considering who to meet. Disney I think would be a huge OSS fan. Lots of innovation and idealisms at work as people make the world better for themselves and others.
It still is somewhat slow but that is to be expected until they are done fixing bugs and implementing everything. It does look really nice and the pages seem to be getting layed out correctly. Much improvement in menus and dialogs has been done. Still crashes or acts weird on almost all forms I tried. I am anxious to see the finish product given how good it is already looking (and it's pre-alpha still!) - who said Mozilla was dead? Myself I'm waiting for Jabber to hit the streets and then see file trading become semi-automated. At least until everyone has more bandwidth I see MP3's being traded like trading cards rather than just given away in mass. Who knows, maybe DVD rips too.:)
I wish people would get it through their heads that Mozilla is not Netscape. Netscape was ate by AOL. It's not a quickie hack or a kludge or anything like that. It is pretty much a total rewrite from the old code and it has been designed with much care to be everything we want. All this impatience annoys me. If others want to create light browsers to be essentially graphical lynx then kewl but if they want to create a whole new browser why not throw in with Mozilla? If it hasn't been released yet you certainly can't have any problem with it that can't be resolved. If it sucks when it arrives then rip out the pieces that are actually good and recode the rest. Why are we ripping at our own community rather than helping or at least being supportive?
I'd say they don't have a leg to stand on unless the notes were copied word for word. It's about time students have a way to earn some money back after the school, the loan company, and the text book companies all screw them for as much as they can. Someone mentioned a web site that gives away all the answers, a fantastic idea I think. I always thought the idea of academic cheating was stupid. If giving them the right answer gives them another chance to learn then great! Schools are there to teach, not grade. I like schools that only teach and ask you to be certified by an outside party that doesn't teach. That is much more fair I think and in general a better idea.
While maybe the source isn't GPL it isn't a total waste. This allows the protocols and even the interface (if it's anygood) to be cloned by OSS coders. That would mean a GPL'd Linux version rewritten from scratch could communicate with already existing Windows and Mac versions while the port of the GPL version to those platforms was taking place. It also means peer review of the source can be going on which of course means a lot with good security. It'd be awesome to get high quality, cross-platform, secure Internet phone software working in time to be an optional part of Mozilla. Overall this is no worse than StarOffice IMO. I'd imagine it should be far easier to clone as not as much shit is loaded into UI code.
If nothing else maybe it'll be the first time Fisher-Price gets/.'d -- I suggest everyone who was hoping this is right go email F-P and tell them you want them to start porting their games to Linux.
I've made way more useless web pages than that and my English wasn't much better (though it's all I speak) and hey I like sex and traveling and elt anyone who asks stay with me and my web pages never got more than a few thousand hits. My favorite was my contest to dress in drag and post the pics on my web site if 500 women sent me their panties. That got me a lot of date offers but not many web site hits. Darn.:)
I was going to make an RPM (or try to) of it but since it didn't work for me I didn't bother. I'll have to wait til someone else makes one that will work and save teaching myself how to make RPM's for another project.
I couldn't get 2.0.6 to work either from RPM or source under Mandrake 6.1. It broke things so I was forced to revert to 2.0.5a. It seemed to be an error w/ the readline library although I didn't investigate much. Anyone else have this problem or find a fix?
If they do this I can easily imagine a open standards group forming to make their own standards and a large portion of the community would switch to those standards instead. With operating systems such as Linux at the heart of the Internet I can't see the technical community being forced into being spyed on. It might be pretty messy opening a standards war with Internet protocols but in the end open standards would win. The Internet is where open/sane standards have the most force because it is implemented by smart people. And as others have pointed out you can just encrypt everything on top. I'd imagine we'd soon see strong encryption being worked into all protocols giving the government an even harder time snooping.
USPS is more reliable than email? In what universe do they live?! Why kill trees just to send somebody junk mail they won't read anyway. It'd seem to me the easiest way to handle this would be just a requirement of notification within 30 days of the fact but not within 24 hours and require the person being notified to verify they recieved the item. That way they could use any means they wanted as long as they got a reply or made a resonable effort at doing so. Still who really needs idiot proofing as law? Let idiots hang themselfs if they like. I vote for an object oriented replacement for bills. Why don't we require each little bit be in it's own section that can be selected or deselected on it's own. Or even provide several options that could be voted for on given sections. Polymorphisms kind of. Woo!
Anybody still have the files? I never bothered grabbing them as this computer hasn't a DVD player. I have access to quite a number of machines in several locations around the world and am already being sued for a few things so what the hell do I care if one more wants to sue me. Anyone who has the files email them to mogmiosSPAM@excite.com and I'll grab them and let you know where I put them first. Also I suggest everyone create a Tripod/Geocities/whatever account (or 20) and mirror the files on each one and preferably change the file name for each account so that it is harder for them to scan for. That way even if they are forced to scan by some lawyer they have plausible proof they are doing their best without actually getting rid of the files.
Why do we need war anyway? If they can follow international laws on what they can and can't do in war why can't they solve their problems through such laws also? Can we get these people some Q3 to take their over aggressive behavior out on? I know as many foreign people as U.S. citizens so why on earth would I want to fight them? There are few countries I don't know somebody in and I don't feel I'm unique in this way. We all have gotten used to ignoring the international line so when will our politicians do the same? *sighs*
Maybe it's just me but it seems to me that everybody I know who watches more than a couple hours a week of tv gets their tv from cable or satelite. I'd rather buy my tv without any stupid reciever I'll never use and save a few extra dollars. Couldn't we use the airwaves better for short range Internet devices? I'm not an expert on radio waves but I'd assume you can get far more bandwidth out of a given chunk of the radio waves by reducing the distance they need to cover and reusing the waves in each chunk of space.
I used to find a lot of dates that way but then those stupid spammers got the idea to post spam ads and it got where it took more time to find a date online than real life so I switched back to just asking people in person.
Yum haqr girls. Wish I had some. LOL but I doubt there are any haqr girls in Missouri. Poor poor me. Hey maybe I could live with a girl who wasn't a haqr!:) ICQ girls are fun too. I'm bored. Everyone add me to their ICQ lists! 1964205
I've been online since about 1991 or 1992 (I forget exactly) and was about 13 or 14 when I first started using BBS's and pre-web Internet. At that point it was almost all chat and email as naturally with 2400 baud modems and a text/ANSI interface there wasn't as much going on. Sure at first you have trouble understanding quite how big the Net really is and your not used to being so honest with people you have never met. It can be a bit of a shock. Some people panic and others get addicted. After a while/most/ people just get used to it and learn to recognize people that are full of bullshit and those who aren't and as they develop rings of friends they can meet new people by being introduced by a trusted friend which again makes it easier to expand. Most people online who know me well can recognize me by the way I talk and the way I shape my sentences even if I'm being anonymous or using a different name. I think people have a lot more ability to recognize people and their intentions in such situations than would be assumed since we use the abilities so seldom in real life. My general feeling now is that I may as well be totally honest both online and in real life because you may as well have friends that like you for who you are and not who you make them think you are. If people don't like it then they can screw off. The truth is people online have far less ability to hurt you than people in real life. I have considered it carefully and in all honesty it's far easier to be caught by talking some girl into meeting you in real life and then doing bad things to her than it'd be if you just went out and kidnapped somebody off the street. Think about it, you're recorded all over the place.. and you have to go out of your way to go nab that person. Duh! Okay maybe I'm not a criminal but they can't all be stupid. If people think teenagers are going to be hurt by seeing dirty ideas or bad language in text then they've obviously not been to a highschool in a long long time because from what I remember from highschool is people having sex against lockers and in the back of the school bus and damn the worst language I've ever heard comes from preschool kids. Get a clue people!:)
Anyone up for a geek orgy? Of course the rule is all men must bring an eligible woman with them if they want admitted. Those wearing rubbers that look like penguins get to stand on the stage and show off for the crowd. Do you think we should test everyone for geek knowledge before they can get any? Anyone who wants to come reply here and I'll email you the secret location and password!:)
I find it funny that people have this odd sense that anyone you meet online is a pervert or otherwise disturbed. This is most funny coming from people who themselfs are online. I meet almost all my new friends online and find it much better for getting to know people before judging them superfically but I still hear gasps from some people I know because of the fact.
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The user should be responsible for their actions. A lot of things that IMO shouldn't be illegal have been made illegal though, in computers and everywhere. America is ran by idiots who feel they need to take away basic freedoms to protect us against us. Just review the words to The Unforgiven for a good review of life in America. [Sorry, listening to Metallica.] Other countries I can't give an opinion on since I haven't lived there but I'd assume they are mostly the same in this respect. It is the programmers responsibility to develop programs that poke into security holes they've found. This is how security evolves and it's the responsiblity of the coders to make sure claims that exploits are only theory are proven to be marketing bs so that companies are forced to fix things.
Exactly. As it is we have been able to lookup almost anything about anyone online for the past five years or so and more information is coming online all the time. Sure people pass privacy laws but as with all Internet laws they just don't work. I just assume everything I do is being videotaped and broadcast on the 11'o clock news and go on with my life. My best defense is that I'm just not that interesting to watch. Anyone who has been a system admin knows that after the first thrill of power it gets pretty old watching people. My basic question is the future of money and other forms of intellectual property in a future where encryption is at most a minor hassle. The opensource movement and nanotechnology are popping along here at the same time. Will be interesting to see capitalism stretched to the extreme and inversed. At the stock market level isn't this already prevalent? I mean if you think about it everyone's worth goes up the more people buy the stocks which is somewhat similar to how OSS works. If a lot of people suddenly pull everything they got out of the market then bang it all goes to hell. Sounds very close to a gift culture to me. It's just undercover.
My biggest problem is that I have to hold a real job to pay my rent and buy pizza and computer parts which blows quite a bit of my time. Does anyone else really feel like programming by the time they're done getting their brain pumped all day? Now and then I do but it leads to slow coding. I've always found I write my best code when I can do it in a solid stream. Y'know sit down and don't get up for 3 days and when you look you have some wonderful amazing piece of code. My usual attitude is once I've done it then I throw it out to the community (I've never actually licensed code but if I had anything I deemed perfect it'd probably be GPL'd instead of public domain) and let them build off of it. While some of my code has been highly used it is usually highly specialized stuff that 99.999% of people would have no idea what the description even meant. Any idea how to turn such things into a nice job that lets me code GPL'd stuff for a living?
I think magazines that are instructional such as my favorites Linux Journal and Dobbs will continue but tech moves to fast to make it into print before it is old news. Of course girly mags will last quite a while too. *coughs* Portable can be useful for some content.
My friends and I hacked a device into the mouse input when Doom was still new that allowed you to walk and shoot using nothing but your brain. It was just a cheap trick and had some flaws and took a lot of practice but hey it costs like $50 to make and was really fun.
Well since everyone else seems to have some sort of hatred for Walt Disney and/or Katz I figured I'd just note that I found this article interesting. The point that capitalist vultures swooped down and turned Disney from being about inspiring people to making money is incredibly sad. Sure he probably didn't think his vision of the future would come true but I've always felt that Walt Disney was one of those people who changed all those he came in contact with for the better and left the world a little better for his being here. If I could go back in time to meet one person Walt Disney would at least be very high on my list when I was considering who to meet. Disney I think would be a huge OSS fan. Lots of innovation and idealisms at work as people make the world better for themselves and others.
It still is somewhat slow but that is to be expected until they are done fixing bugs and implementing everything. It does look really nice and the pages seem to be getting layed out correctly. Much improvement in menus and dialogs has been done. Still crashes or acts weird on almost all forms I tried. I am anxious to see the finish product given how good it is already looking (and it's pre-alpha still!) - who said Mozilla was dead? Myself I'm waiting for Jabber to hit the streets and then see file trading become semi-automated. At least until everyone has more bandwidth I see MP3's being traded like trading cards rather than just given away in mass. Who knows, maybe DVD rips too. :)
Why didn't they use PNG? GIF's?! Ewww.
I wish people would get it through their heads that Mozilla is not Netscape. Netscape was ate by AOL. It's not a quickie hack or a kludge or anything like that. It is pretty much a total rewrite from the old code and it has been designed with much care to be everything we want. All this impatience annoys me. If others want to create light browsers to be essentially graphical lynx then kewl but if they want to create a whole new browser why not throw in with Mozilla? If it hasn't been released yet you certainly can't have any problem with it that can't be resolved. If it sucks when it arrives then rip out the pieces that are actually good and recode the rest. Why are we ripping at our own community rather than helping or at least being supportive?
I'd say they don't have a leg to stand on unless the notes were copied word for word. It's about time students have a way to earn some money back after the school, the loan company, and the text book companies all screw them for as much as they can. Someone mentioned a web site that gives away all the answers, a fantastic idea I think. I always thought the idea of academic cheating was stupid. If giving them the right answer gives them another chance to learn then great! Schools are there to teach, not grade. I like schools that only teach and ask you to be certified by an outside party that doesn't teach. That is much more fair I think and in general a better idea.
While maybe the source isn't GPL it isn't a total waste. This allows the protocols and even the interface (if it's anygood) to be cloned by OSS coders. That would mean a GPL'd Linux version rewritten from scratch could communicate with already existing Windows and Mac versions while the port of the GPL version to those platforms was taking place. It also means peer review of the source can be going on which of course means a lot with good security. It'd be awesome to get high quality, cross-platform, secure Internet phone software working in time to be an optional part of Mozilla. Overall this is no worse than StarOffice IMO. I'd imagine it should be far easier to clone as not as much shit is loaded into UI code.
If nothing else maybe it'll be the first time Fisher-Price gets /.'d -- I suggest everyone who was hoping this is right go email F-P and tell them you want them to start porting their games to Linux.
I've made way more useless web pages than that and my English wasn't much better (though it's all I speak) and hey I like sex and traveling and elt anyone who asks stay with me and my web pages never got more than a few thousand hits. My favorite was my contest to dress in drag and post the pics on my web site if 500 women sent me their panties. That got me a lot of date offers but not many web site hits. Darn. :)
I was going to make an RPM (or try to) of it but since it didn't work for me I didn't bother. I'll have to wait til someone else makes one that will work and save teaching myself how to make RPM's for another project.
I couldn't get 2.0.6 to work either from RPM or source under Mandrake 6.1. It broke things so I was forced to revert to 2.0.5a. It seemed to be an error w/ the readline library although I didn't investigate much. Anyone else have this problem or find a fix?
If they do this I can easily imagine a open standards group forming to make their own standards and a large portion of the community would switch to those standards instead. With operating systems such as Linux at the heart of the Internet I can't see the technical community being forced into being spyed on. It might be pretty messy opening a standards war with Internet protocols but in the end open standards would win. The Internet is where open/sane standards have the most force because it is implemented by smart people. And as others have pointed out you can just encrypt everything on top. I'd imagine we'd soon see strong encryption being worked into all protocols giving the government an even harder time snooping.
USPS is more reliable than email? In what universe do they live?! Why kill trees just to send somebody junk mail they won't read anyway. It'd seem to me the easiest way to handle this would be just a requirement of notification within 30 days of the fact but not within 24 hours and require the person being notified to verify they recieved the item. That way they could use any means they wanted as long as they got a reply or made a resonable effort at doing so. Still who really needs idiot proofing as law? Let idiots hang themselfs if they like. I vote for an object oriented replacement for bills. Why don't we require each little bit be in it's own section that can be selected or deselected on it's own. Or even provide several options that could be voted for on given sections. Polymorphisms kind of. Woo!
Anybody still have the files? I never bothered grabbing them as this computer hasn't a DVD player. I have access to quite a number of machines in several locations around the world and am already being sued for a few things so what the hell do I care if one more wants to sue me. Anyone who has the files email them to mogmiosSPAM@excite.com and I'll grab them and let you know where I put them first. Also I suggest everyone create a Tripod/Geocities/whatever account (or 20) and mirror the files on each one and preferably change the file name for each account so that it is harder for them to scan for. That way even if they are forced to scan by some lawyer they have plausible proof they are doing their best without actually getting rid of the files.
Why do we need war anyway? If they can follow international laws on what they can and can't do in war why can't they solve their problems through such laws also? Can we get these people some Q3 to take their over aggressive behavior out on? I know as many foreign people as U.S. citizens so why on earth would I want to fight them? There are few countries I don't know somebody in and I don't feel I'm unique in this way. We all have gotten used to ignoring the international line so when will our politicians do the same? *sighs*
Maybe it's just me but it seems to me that everybody I know who watches more than a couple hours a week of tv gets their tv from cable or satelite. I'd rather buy my tv without any stupid reciever I'll never use and save a few extra dollars. Couldn't we use the airwaves better for short range Internet devices? I'm not an expert on radio waves but I'd assume you can get far more bandwidth out of a given chunk of the radio waves by reducing the distance they need to cover and reusing the waves in each chunk of space.
I used to find a lot of dates that way but then those stupid spammers got the idea to post spam ads and it got where it took more time to find a date online than real life so I switched back to just asking people in person.
Yum haqr girls. Wish I had some. LOL but I doubt there are any haqr girls in Missouri. Poor poor me. Hey maybe I could live with a girl who wasn't a haqr! :) ICQ girls are fun too. I'm bored. Everyone add me to their ICQ lists! 1964205
I've been online since about 1991 or 1992 (I forget exactly) and was about 13 or 14 when I first started using BBS's and pre-web Internet. At that point it was almost all chat and email as naturally with 2400 baud modems and a text/ANSI interface there wasn't as much going on. Sure at first you have trouble understanding quite how big the Net really is and your not used to being so honest with people you have never met. It can be a bit of a shock. Some people panic and others get addicted. After a while /most/ people just get used to it and learn to recognize people that are full of bullshit and those who aren't and as they develop rings of friends they can meet new people by being introduced by a trusted friend which again makes it easier to expand. Most people online who know me well can recognize me by the way I talk and the way I shape my sentences even if I'm being anonymous or using a different name. I think people have a lot more ability to recognize people and their intentions in such situations than would be assumed since we use the abilities so seldom in real life. My general feeling now is that I may as well be totally honest both online and in real life because you may as well have friends that like you for who you are and not who you make them think you are. If people don't like it then they can screw off. The truth is people online have far less ability to hurt you than people in real life. I have considered it carefully and in all honesty it's far easier to be caught by talking some girl into meeting you in real life and then doing bad things to her than it'd be if you just went out and kidnapped somebody off the street. Think about it, you're recorded all over the place.. and you have to go out of your way to go nab that person. Duh! Okay maybe I'm not a criminal but they can't all be stupid. If people think teenagers are going to be hurt by seeing dirty ideas or bad language in text then they've obviously not been to a highschool in a long long time because from what I remember from highschool is people having sex against lockers and in the back of the school bus and damn the worst language I've ever heard comes from preschool kids. Get a clue people! :)
Anyone up for a geek orgy? Of course the rule is all men must bring an eligible woman with them if they want admitted. Those wearing rubbers that look like penguins get to stand on the stage and show off for the crowd. Do you think we should test everyone for geek knowledge before they can get any? Anyone who wants to come reply here and I'll email you the secret location and password! :)
I find it funny that people have this odd sense that anyone you meet online is a pervert or otherwise disturbed. This is most funny coming from people who themselfs are online. I meet almost all my new friends online and find it much better for getting to know people before judging them superfically but I still hear gasps from some people I know because of the fact.