I don't think the Opera way makes any sense at all!
I really don't see the status bar, except sometimes it flickers there (like when I go in and out of the window). Maybe the version I have doesn't have it, or has it bugged.
I prefer Firefox (3) and am a Firefox user, but as a web developer, I have observed that Chrome is faster and more efficient. You can see it more clearly in certain, more complex rendering situations - For example, text scrolling on top of a fixed background image.
Personally, what I miss in Chrome (more than the menu bar) is the status bar. I like hovering the mouse pointer above links and quickly seeing what they all do before I actually click them. I also can't understand the absence of the stop button. I know I can press escape, but it's not exactly a feature that should be that hidden.
Then how come you can go outside? Do you wear insulation?;) Or don't tell me you're a non-geek here on Slashdot. The toxic fumes produced by our geekness can melt your brain in only a few hours, so I'd be careful if I were you. Then again, judging by your username, you're probably a geek who just doesn't want to admit it.
Also, I find your discrimination against geeks, implying that they aren't "real people", insulting. You racist!
I was going to mod you funny for the contradiction, but then I realized you might not be aiming for that.
If "all those guys" perceive the word as having such a meaning, then why is that meaning any less valid than your so-called "public perception"? In fact, both are "public perceptions", only they come from different segments of the public. You and the people who perceive hackers to be criminals have as much right to challenge the definition presented by those who perceive hackers as being autodidact expert coders as they have to challenge yours.
I don't have time to find a source right now, but didn't a linked-to-by-slashdot article one or two weeks ago mention the variations in some ocean currents as the cause? Something about them delaying serious global warming until the next decade or so.
Here in my country we've had traffic limits for a long time, and they kept getting worse. First 20gb, then 10gb and right now a 6mbps DSL connection comes with a ridiculous 2gb! Cable is even worse. Compared to that, 250gb is heaven. I don't think I ever used more than 50gb in a month myself.
Fortunately, in the past 1-2 years providers began making unlimited traffic (or at least not clearly limited traffic) available for a relatively cheap aditional fee - this service used to double the cost of our internet access, making our access cost at least three times the prices in the US for generally worse speeds, but not anymore.
You don't have to go back if you don't want to, but there are many people still using IE, and it would be easier to write websites if every single bit of JS or CSS didn't have to have a workaround for it. If IE8 brings us one step closer to that dream, then I welcome it with open arms! Even if I'm not ever going to use it.
Yup, I'm wondering why the beta is available in german rather than a language with more speakers, such as spanish. Are they perhaps trying to win back the notoriously large amount of Firefox users in Germany?
Snow Crash was good because its main characters kicked ass. Comparing it to most other geek literature, I found it a relaxing, easy read. I think it's good to read books like Snow Crash regularly to keep your brain from exploding. Alas, I have not yet read the Cryptonomicon, a book so universally praised. I keep a huge queue of books I want to read and the Cryptonomicon is still in it (it will be in my very next Amazon order, sometime during September).
Well, I can live with it, but they could at least patch this feature to make it less annoying with self-signed certificates. Show a warning, yes, but right now the error message is too creepy.
If you thought you were preaching to a zealot, I'm afraid you got the wrong guy. I'm actually in the minority of Slashdot visitors who thinks proprietary, closed applications are okay. The thing is, for something like the worldwide web, when you have a default set of protocols and technologies that is inherently open (html, js, css, etc.) it's best to use those, rather than a format that cannot be crawled, from which data cannot be easily extracted, that requires an additional plug-in to run on top of your browser and that will trap your content to the whims of (ugh) Adobe.
Like nick.ian.k wrote, it's just pointless. And it degrades the quality of the web. That's why you should care. But you don't have to if you don't want to;)
Wow, you put that better than I possibly could. I'm not a native english speaker, so words like "crawl-able" dont' always occur promptly to me, but it's exactly as you write.
Since when is 10% of the users of the worldwide web "insignificant"?
And besides, even when flash works smoothly, it's still a design abuse. It's difficult to use the content automatically, and it's a closed, proprietary application.
Not just that - Flash is also great for minigames, original animation, small applications... The only thing flash should NOT be used for is making websites, wholly or in part. Unfortunately, lots of bad webmasters just don't get it.
Of course, maybe if Javascript behavior was more consistent across different browsers, versions of the same browser and operating systems, people would stop making crappy flash websites.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Lots of people who play a good, challenging puzzle game will love it, even today. They just aren't produced anymore, and when produced they don't get any exposure. I'm really glad about Portal. It proved an important point.
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It's a statement about a question ;)
I don't think the Opera way makes any sense at all!
I really don't see the status bar, except sometimes it flickers there (like when I go in and out of the window). Maybe the version I have doesn't have it, or has it bugged.
Oh, thanks. That partially solves that problem. Is there a way to stop annoying background music in the websites that have it?
I prefer Firefox (3) and am a Firefox user, but as a web developer, I have observed that Chrome is faster and more efficient. You can see it more clearly in certain, more complex rendering situations - For example, text scrolling on top of a fixed background image.
Personally, what I miss in Chrome (more than the menu bar) is the status bar. I like hovering the mouse pointer above links and quickly seeing what they all do before I actually click them. I also can't understand the absence of the stop button. I know I can press escape, but it's not exactly a feature that should be that hidden.
Maybe they'll have separate betas for the Mac and Linux versions.
How about an international treaty to implement the death penalty for spammers all over the world.
I mean, why not? Don't we squish mosquitos when they pester us? Spammers are a thousand times more annoying and just as harmful and useless.
Then how come you can go outside? Do you wear insulation? ;) Or don't tell me you're a non-geek here on Slashdot. The toxic fumes produced by our geekness can melt your brain in only a few hours, so I'd be careful if I were you. Then again, judging by your username, you're probably a geek who just doesn't want to admit it.
Also, I find your discrimination against geeks, implying that they aren't "real people", insulting. You racist!
I was going to mod you funny for the contradiction, but then I realized you might not be aiming for that.
If "all those guys" perceive the word as having such a meaning, then why is that meaning any less valid than your so-called "public perception"? In fact, both are "public perceptions", only they come from different segments of the public. You and the people who perceive hackers to be criminals have as much right to challenge the definition presented by those who perceive hackers as being autodidact expert coders as they have to challenge yours.
In fact, try searching google for define:hacker .
I don't have time to find a source right now, but didn't a linked-to-by-slashdot article one or two weeks ago mention the variations in some ocean currents as the cause? Something about them delaying serious global warming until the next decade or so.
Here in my country we've had traffic limits for a long time, and they kept getting worse. First 20gb, then 10gb and right now a 6mbps DSL connection comes with a ridiculous 2gb! Cable is even worse. Compared to that, 250gb is heaven. I don't think I ever used more than 50gb in a month myself.
Fortunately, in the past 1-2 years providers began making unlimited traffic (or at least not clearly limited traffic) available for a relatively cheap aditional fee - this service used to double the cost of our internet access, making our access cost at least three times the prices in the US for generally worse speeds, but not anymore.
That's very interesting. Thank you for clearing that up.
You don't have to go back if you don't want to, but there are many people still using IE, and it would be easier to write websites if every single bit of JS or CSS didn't have to have a workaround for it. If IE8 brings us one step closer to that dream, then I welcome it with open arms! Even if I'm not ever going to use it.
Yup, I'm wondering why the beta is available in german rather than a language with more speakers, such as spanish. Are they perhaps trying to win back the notoriously large amount of Firefox users in Germany?
The part where the virtual nuke goes off is pure awesomeness.
Snow Crash was good because its main characters kicked ass. Comparing it to most other geek literature, I found it a relaxing, easy read. I think it's good to read books like Snow Crash regularly to keep your brain from exploding. Alas, I have not yet read the Cryptonomicon, a book so universally praised. I keep a huge queue of books I want to read and the Cryptonomicon is still in it (it will be in my very next Amazon order, sometime during September).
Well, I can live with it, but they could at least patch this feature to make it less annoying with self-signed certificates. Show a warning, yes, but right now the error message is too creepy.
Posting to undo accidental bad moderation (hit the wrong option in the dropdown list).
If you don't care, why the rant?
If you thought you were preaching to a zealot, I'm afraid you got the wrong guy. I'm actually in the minority of Slashdot visitors who thinks proprietary, closed applications are okay. The thing is, for something like the worldwide web, when you have a default set of protocols and technologies that is inherently open (html, js, css, etc.) it's best to use those, rather than a format that cannot be crawled, from which data cannot be easily extracted, that requires an additional plug-in to run on top of your browser and that will trap your content to the whims of (ugh) Adobe.
Like nick.ian.k wrote, it's just pointless. And it degrades the quality of the web. That's why you should care. But you don't have to if you don't want to ;)
Wow, you put that better than I possibly could. I'm not a native english speaker, so words like "crawl-able" dont' always occur promptly to me, but it's exactly as you write.
Since when is 10% of the users of the worldwide web "insignificant"?
And besides, even when flash works smoothly, it's still a design abuse. It's difficult to use the content automatically, and it's a closed, proprietary application.
Not just that - Flash is also great for minigames, original animation, small applications... The only thing flash should NOT be used for is making websites, wholly or in part. Unfortunately, lots of bad webmasters just don't get it.
Of course, maybe if Javascript behavior was more consistent across different browsers, versions of the same browser and operating systems, people would stop making crappy flash websites.
Desktop Tower Defense is mostly strategy, not puzzle.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Lots of people who play a good, challenging puzzle game will love it, even today. They just aren't produced anymore, and when produced they don't get any exposure. I'm really glad about Portal. It proved an important point.
But it was fun to experiment and see what happenned...
Ohmygod, MI5 was released? Where? Where? MINE!!! ... ...um, yeah, I would.