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The Duke Is Finally Back, For Real

After the first announcement on 1997-04-27 and over eleven years of fresh start after fresh start, Duke Nukem Forever finally comes to your system. At least if your system is an Xbox 360. Jon Siegler, the webmaster of 3D Realms, confirms this on their site: "As has been reported around the net today, we can confirm that the game has indeed passed final certification with Microsoft on Friday the 15th of August (on our first try, no less). That means the game is done — it is now in the hands of Microsoft." Update: 08/19 10:47 GMT by T : Several readers have written with a correction: this announcement is actually about Duke Nukem 3D, rather than Duke Nukem Forever.

309 comments

  1. Hell has frozen over by amrik98 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Standby, I'm seeing pigs flying outside my window.

    1. Re:Hell has frozen over by Plantain · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's in Microsoft's hands now, so all I'm seeing are chairs...

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    2. Re:Hell has frozen over by Jekler · · Score: 5, Informative

      No pigs have flown. The actual news is about Duke Nukem 3D being released for XBox Live Arcade. There is nothing about DNF.

    3. Re:Hell has frozen over by EdIII · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's NOT just you my friend.

      The moment I read it... I felt this enormous pain in my stomach. It got worse and worse to the point where I was heaving with my face on the keyboard. I felt my cheeks ripping apart and out came this little winged monkey. With a fez hat. He just handed me the game, gave me the thumbs up signal and flew out the window.

    4. Re:Hell has frozen over by Aranykai · · Score: 1

      Ill believe it when netcraft confirms it.

      Oh, and...
      Ive got balls of steel.

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    5. Re:Hell has frozen over by Barny · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nah, its still never coming out to PC, shitting all over the fans who have actually been anticipating this, the duke is dead to me.

      Moderated: +1 Surly

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    6. Re:Hell has frozen over by Barny · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nm, false start, apparently the editors can't tell a 10 year old game from a new one.

      Yes I burn karma, mode me up for it kthx.

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    7. Re:Hell has frozen over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's in Microsoft's hands now, so all I'm seeing are chairs...

      Well, you know what they say...

      When all you have is a chair,
      everything looks like an asshole.

      So, um... what exactly is Microsoft doing with those hands?

    8. Re:Hell has frozen over by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

      The flying pigs are actually 10 year old pigs of a perfectly normal land based variety and a Slashdot editor getting mixed up with the avian pig and common pig.

    9. Re:Hell has frozen over by atari2600 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      An article of this magnitude (well it isn't but if it were true...) and the least the editor could've done is hover his mouse cursor over the link. Also this is old news (DN3D coming to XBLA).

    10. Re:Hell has frozen over by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Um,I hate to break this to you,but it is actually a story about Duke3D which plays just fine in XP. I know because I have a little 733MHz with dual boot Win98SE and XP and it ran just fine in WinXP. Oh,and since we know now that editors don't bother to check the links I would be surprised if story submitters didn't try for a massive rickroll. Having the front page with every single link a rickroll? Now THAT would be funny! But as always this is my 02c,YMMV

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    11. Re:Hell has frozen over by nstlgc · · Score: 3, Funny

      Having the front page with every single link a rickroll? Now THAT would be funny!

      YouTube already did it.

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    12. Re:Hell has frozen over by joleran · · Score: 5, Funny

      Considering the age of the game, perhaps toasters would be more appropriate.

    13. Re:Hell has frozen over by Ailure · · Score: 1

      There's also source ports that run Duke Nukem 3D well. Infact, I usually use the ports since they aren't as awkward to use as the DOS version (I like having my games Windowed :)).

    14. Re:Hell has frozen over by laejoh · · Score: 5, Funny

      You should have taken a picture and posted it on the net. It would have become an instant shock site classic!

      You could have called it monkeyse!

    15. Re:Hell has frozen over by laejoh · · Score: 1

      No no no, the slashdot editor mixed up with the european and african pig!

    16. Re:Hell has frozen over by dotancohen · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's NOT just you my friend.

      The moment I read it... I felt this enormous pain in my stomach. It got worse and worse to the point where I was heaving with my face on the keyboard. I felt my cheeks ripping apart and out came this little winged monkey. With a fez hat. He just handed me the game, gave me the thumbs up signal and flew out the window.

      That was NOT the thumbs up signal. That was the beginning of Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A B A.

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    17. Re:Hell has frozen over by martin-boundary · · Score: 5, Funny

      So he ripped your head off, but did he shit down your neck?

    18. Re:Hell has frozen over by JWSmythe · · Score: 3, Funny

      You must be in S. Florida. That's the storm blowing them around. Duke Nukem Forever wasn't released. :)

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    19. Re:Hell has frozen over by Michael_gr · · Score: 1

      Err... Duke Nukem Forever *IS* a ten year old game, albeit an unpublished one. Duke Nukem 3D is 12 years old.

    20. Re:Hell has frozen over by bloobloo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Insightful?

      Seriously, mods?

    21. Re:Hell has frozen over by rant64 · · Score: 3, Funny

      DNF... Did Not Finish?

    22. Re:Hell has frozen over by sorak · · Score: 1

      It's NOT just you my friend.

      The moment I read it... I felt this enormous pain in my stomach. It got worse and worse to the point where I was heaving with my face on the keyboard. I felt my cheeks ripping apart and out came this little winged monkey. With a fez hat. He just handed me the game, gave me the thumbs up signal and flew out the window.

      Unfortunately the game was Duke Nukem 3D. You went through that for the wrong game. At least it wasn't Kid Chameleon or Sewer Shark, but still, you must be disappointed.

    23. Re:Hell has frozen over by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Neither of these, it's actually mutated policemen. Haven't you ever played the game?

    24. Re:Hell has frozen over by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 0

      It hasn't been released until I can play it with a keyboard and mouse....then we'll see some flying pigs.

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    25. Re:Hell has frozen over by danieltdp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Being on microsoft hands, I expect to see some flying toasters too

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    26. Re:Hell has frozen over by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      (in this case, not DNF but DN3D was (re)released)

      I think your balls are rusty.

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    27. Re:Hell has frozen over by knight24k · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That was NOT the thumbs up signal. That was the beginning of Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A B A.

      Ah, so you saw this too?

    28. Re:Hell has frozen over by laejoh · · Score: 1

      Haven't you seen the movie?

      I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

      Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.

    29. Re:Hell has frozen over by deraj123 · · Score: 1
    30. Re:Hell has frozen over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you're funny. Could you explain the joke a second time?

    31. Re:Hell has frozen over by Bonewalker · · Score: 1

      What is the air-speed velocity of a laden avian pig? What do you mean? African or European?

    32. Re:Hell has frozen over by Skuldo · · Score: 1

      My dino-crate version of DUKE3D (1996 DOS edition) runs in full screen fine on XP, infact it ran in full screen first time.

    33. Re:Hell has frozen over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      aha! someone has been watching the olympics!

    34. Re:Hell has frozen over by laederkeps · · Score: 1

      The flying pigs are actually 10 year old pigs in police uniforms with machine guns and a Slashdot editor getting mixed up with the avian pig and common pig.

      Fixed that for you.

    35. Re:Hell has frozen over by brkello · · Score: 1

      McCain...is that you? "my friend", cheek issues...it all points to yes!

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    36. Re:Hell has frozen over by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Funny

      (Note: From SW Florida)

      Storm? I've seen more impressive winds coming out of a sneeze.

    37. Re:Hell has frozen over by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      I like JonoF's ports of Duke and Shadow Warrior, myself. He hasn't updated them in a couple of years though.

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    38. Re:Hell has frozen over by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Nice!

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    39. Re:Hell has frozen over by nomadic · · Score: 1

      An article of this magnitude (well it isn't but if it were true...) and the least the editor could've done is hover his mouse cursor over the link.

      But that would require the editors to spend several minutes a day editing, leaving them precious little time to do whatever else it is they do. You know, if I had a time machine I'd go back in time and become friends with CmdrTaco so I too could get a nice job like slashdot editor...

    40. Re:Hell has frozen over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's funny, I see flying toasters.

    41. Re:Hell has frozen over by ksd1337 · · Score: 1

      All I see are Slashdot readers throwing their computers out because they realized DNF wasn't released.

    42. Re:Hell has frozen over by whiskey6 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Informative. Thank me later.

    43. Re:Hell has frozen over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      <pedantic>
      After Dark was not a Microsoft product.
      </pedantic>

    44. Re:Hell has frozen over by startling · · Score: 1

      There is nothing about DNF.

      in motor racing, DNF stands for Did Not Finish...

    45. Re:Hell has frozen over by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      That's no pig. That's kdawson and his magical powers of epicfail.

    46. Re:Hell has frozen over by Quattro+Vezina · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wow.

      Now I realized how much I miss After Dark.

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    47. Re:Hell has frozen over by HitoGuy · · Score: 1

      Indeed, but I think the flying toaster concept has left the After Dark software. I noticed a nicely rendered OpenGL flying toaster screensaver on my Ubuntu install. It's so fun to watch. Maybe I should play "Rise of the Valkyries" next time I see that screensaver. :P

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    48. Re:Hell has frozen over by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least Duke Nukem 3D is done!

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    49. Re:Hell has frozen over by PachmanP · · Score: 1

      It would only be funny if there was also some monkey doo in the picture...

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    50. Re:Hell has frozen over by Forrest+Kyle · · Score: 1

      Well, you know what they say... monkeyse, monkeydo.

      Badump, bsha!

    51. Re:Hell has frozen over by EventHorizon_pc · · Score: 0, Redundant

      There is a reason Duke Nukem Forever has the initials DNF....

      DNF in the result of a race means "did not finish."

    52. Re:Hell has frozen over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in motor racing, DNF stands for Did Not Finish...

      They have motor racing? Sooner or later some wise guy is going to think to put wheels on one, and then you guys are in trouble.

    53. Re:Hell has frozen over by againjj · · Score: 1

      Konami Code for those who don't know.

    54. Re:Hell has frozen over by EdIII · · Score: 1

      It's even worse than that... I don't have a XBOX 360 :(

    55. Re:Hell has frozen over by PaganRitual · · Score: 1

      C'mon, man. This is a Duke Nukem article.

      You obviously saw flying pigcops.

    56. Re:Hell has frozen over by $0.02 · · Score: 1

      If it is in Microsoft hands I will ignore it until version 3. Any ideas when it will be?

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    57. Re:Hell has frozen over by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          It just did a beautiful dance around us here in Tampa. Clouds and light wind, but no storm.

          The track shows we may still have a chance though, but it'll be from a summer shower by the time it gets back here.

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    58. Re:Hell has frozen over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny...all I see are toasters

    59. Re:Hell has frozen over by wallsg · · Score: 1

      Darn. I wanted to see if there would be a port to the Android phone.

    60. Re:Hell has frozen over by lavalamp70 · · Score: 1

      Hell froze over in 1994 - The Eagles got back together......

  2. I knew it by tyler.willard · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've always known that the Apocalypse would fall on a Tuesday.

    1. Re:I knew it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Dawn is in trouble? It must be tuesday."

    2. Re:I knew it by Missing_dc · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've always known that the Apocalypse would fall on a Tuesday.

      Don't worry, we're working on a zero-day patch for this.

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    3. Re:I knew it by RuBLed · · Score: 1

      You're definitely not a windows sysadmin...

    4. Re:I knew it by Sobieski · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, this must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays.

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    5. Re:I knew it by ShadowBlasko · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have a theory... It could be bunnies!

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    6. Re:I knew it by tyler.willard · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Or witches some evil witches which is ridiculous 'cuz witches they were persecuted wicca good and love the earth and women power I'll be over here...

    7. Re:I knew it by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Funny

      Surely a couple of those horesmen ARE windows sysadmins. /ducks

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    8. Re:I knew it by ShadowBlasko · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or witches some evil witches which is ridiculous 'cuz witches they were persecuted wicca good and love the earth and women power I'll be over here...

      Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes,
      they've got those hoppy legs and twitchy little noses,
      and whats with all the carrots? What do they need such good eyesite for anyway?!?!?
      Bunnies! Bunnies!! it must be BUNNIES!!!

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    9. Re:I knew it by bennybertow · · Score: 1

      Or maybe midgets?

    10. Re:I knew it by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      no, midgits came at the beginning, not the end.

    11. Re:I knew it by bennybertow · · Score: 1

      no, midgits came at the beginning, not the end.

      Nope

    12. Re:I knew it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      could never get the hang of them huh?

    13. Re:I knew it by Smauler · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't be silly. The four horsemen of the apocalypse are death, war, famine and BSOD.

    14. Re:I knew it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love it! Please attribute or claim credit so it can be properly attributed!

    15. Re:I knew it by ShadowBlasko · · Score: 1

      I love it! Please attribute or claim credit so it can be properly attributed!

      Buffy The Vampire Slayer, TV Series. Musical Episode "Once More With Feeling"

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    16. Re:I knew it by GiovanniZero · · Score: 1

      or maybe midgets?

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    17. Re:I knew it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turn in your geek card immediately.

  3. Wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Uh... no?

    The story is about Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox Live Arcade, NOT Duke Nukem Forever.

    Bad summary. Bad.

    1. Re:Wrong... by fastest+fascist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bad to the point of me thinking the editors might as well just pull this entire posting. Except that'd be too easy on them, I guess. Seriously, though - RTFA, anyone?

    2. Re:Wrong... by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 1

      It's probably easy for them to mistake this for a Duke Nukem Forever announcement since it is so very rare that game developers announce a new port of a 12 and a half year old computer game to yet another new platform.

      In case some people haven't realized it yet, Duke Nukem Forever is a JOKE guys. The whole point of the joke is that Duke Nukem will continue to be ported to new platforms "forever" as they become available. There isn't going to be an actual game with killer graphics called "Duke Nukem Forever", it's just the same rehashed pseudo-3D game from 1996 on newer platforms, or occasionally a rehashing of the 2D side-scrolling platform versions.

      It's silly to think that any company would be so completely inept at game development that they couldn't produce a simple FPS for a computer after more than 12 years when much cooler games have been developed and released in less than 2 years! That's the joke!

    3. Re:Wrong... by v1 · · Score: 1, Informative

      No they'll just add the "badsummary" and "wrongsummary" tags to it and be done with it, same as every other time.

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    4. Re:Wrong... by dotancohen · · Score: 0, Troll

      Uh... no?

      The story is about Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox Live Arcade, NOT Duke Nukem Forever.

      Bad summary. Bad.

      Don't worry. 2009 will be the year of DNF on the console. Along with Linux on the desktop.

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    5. Re:Wrong... by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually re-releases of older games on newer platforms are becoming more common. Game devs have started to note the flourishing emulation community and realized that people still like to play the old classics. Sometimes, they go out and use the emulators to do it. Sierra uses DOSBox to run their compilations on Windows. Also Nintendo has a SNES emulator (developed in house I think) on the Wii so you can buy favored SNES games and play them. So that isn't surprising.

      Also DNF is no joke, or at least if it is the joke's on 3Drealms. They have currently licensed not one, not two but three high end (at the time) 3D engines over the course of developing it. That is some seriously expensive shit. They've spent a lot of money working on it. Be it ineptitude or something else, they've sunk a lot of money in the project.

    6. Re:Wrong... by sortius_nod · · Score: 5, Funny

      When noone else RTFA on /. why would the editors?

      Much love /.

    7. Re:Wrong... by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bad to the point of me thinking the editors might as well just pull this entire posting. Except that'd be too easy on them, I guess. Seriously, though - RTFA, anyone?

      Not-particularly-outlandish conspiracy time; the editor(s) in question knew that this would probably be found out as a "mistake" quite quickly, but that it would generate page views (at least) and discussion anyway. And since the majority of Slashdotters aren't subscribers, that's probably how they make most of their money.

      Can't say I hold this against them badly; it's just a little commercial pragmatism.

      The same goes for "accidental" duplicates of stories that generate good interest and discussion, but are about to fall off the front page.

      What gets me is that people will dismiss this (Slashdot editors acting in a mildly cynical but commercially pragmatic manner do something fairly *straightforward*- and not all that evil- that makes commercial sense) as a loony conspiracy theory. Yet they'll continue to believe the alternative, that the editors continue to be employed despite making transparent "mistakes" and displaying supposed incompetence that would verge on the drool-inducing. Get real!

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    8. Re:Wrong... by Machtyn · · Score: 1

      So, can we now say, in the vein of "Hollywood is out of ideas", that the games industry is out of ideas?

    9. Re:Wrong... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I suspect that 3D Realms' investors aren't laughing.

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    10. Re:Wrong... by mccabem · · Score: 1

      Indeed. I still don't think I get the point behind this article posting.

      Did the submitter/editors all not get it? Or worse are they all in on it?

      Either option makes me a little sad since even the scheisty 3D Realms people were straight about this being a DN3D release on their own announcement page.

      Boo on /. for this one. -10 for not being funny or informative.

      -Matt

  4. Not DNF by Ack_OZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't a release of Duke Nukem Forever, just an updated Duke 3d for Xbox 360...

    (As I am sure many posts will correct)

    1. Re:Not DNF by hey! · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yep, it's Duke Nukem Updated For The Time Being. Just shows the advantages and limitations of agile methods.

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  5. No more vaporware awards... by thunderclap · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And Here I was looking forwards to it receiving the 2009 Vaporware award of the year! They were going to give it an lifetime non-achievement award too.

    1. Re:No more vaporware awards... by AuMatar · · Score: 3, Informative

      THey tried that 2 or 3 years ago. It still won by a landslide the next year.

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  6. Duke 3d, not DNF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    This story is about Duke Nukem 3D, not Duke Nukem Forever.

    *sigh*

    1. Re:Duke 3d, not DNF by that+IT+girl · · Score: 2, Funny

      *sigh*
      I'll go back to pining away now...

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    2. Re:Duke 3d, not DNF by pianosaurus · · Score: 1

      I'll go back to pining away now...

      Cleese: This DNF's dead!
      Palin: Nah, it's pining for the fjords.
      Cleese: DNF's not pining, it's bloody demised! If /. hadn't just nailed it to the perch, it would have been pushing up the daisies!

  7. 3D not Forever by octover · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The apocalypse is not upon us. The summary is wrong, for those of you new here. This is Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox Live Arcade and not Duke Nukem Forever.

    1. Re:3D not Forever by neonux · · Score: 1

      The summary is wrong, for those of you new here.

      There is only one New Here.

      Oh wait...

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    2. Re:3D not Forever by Tatarize · · Score: 3, Funny

      I knew the story must be wrong when it said Duke Nukem Forever was being released. That's not something that happens so it's clearly nonsense.

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  8. No skiing for Satan yet by iregisteredjustforth · · Score: 3, Funny

    The announcement is about Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA, not Duke Nukem Forever.

  9. Hell has officially f... wait.. huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought it was a bit odd when I checked my basement and didn't see ice, but this is for Duke Nukem 3D, not Duke Nukem Forever. Originally released in 1996. It's a port.

    1. Re:Hell has officially f... wait.. huh? by xSauronx · · Score: 1

      good, now yell that with an ackbar voice: "ITS A PORT!"

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  10. Cmon, atleast get it right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're very pleased to announce that "Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox LIVE Arcade" will be coming to your Xbox 360 console soon!

    1. Re:Cmon, atleast get it right! by Provocateur · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean Microsoft finally has the hardware to make Duke Nukem playable after all these years?

      Stick to software, guys...

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    2. Re:Cmon, atleast get it right! by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I can't even understand why someone would want to play it at this date.

      Similar as I feel with most emulators, they look cool, I belive I want to play the games, but I never actually do.

      Some things was best in their time.

    3. Re:Cmon, atleast get it right! by Ailure · · Score: 1

      Well.... yesterday I tried out M.U.L.E. for the first time. Despite it's aged apparent, and it being one of the earliest simulators I still had a blast.

      My point is... Because a certain genre have more advanced games doesn't necessarily mean the old classics in the same genre suddenly isn't as good anymore. :) I play Team Fortress 2 a lot for example, one of the latest and biggest FPS games... yet I still enjoy playing Doom from time to time.

      Of course, I admit some old games that was apparently huge classic bored me... that was the case for Pitfall. I guess Super Mario Bros spoiled me too much. On the other hand, I enjoyed Adventure on the same console... even if somewhat simplistic.

    4. Re:Cmon, atleast get it right! by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some things was best in their time.

      I still play Doom2 and SF2 on XBLA. The latest 3D engine and multi-million dollar game isn't always as good as a re-vamped or rebalanced classic.

      Plus, take into consideration several million XB360 owners who weren't old enough to get into these games when they were new and cutting edge.

      Finally, I used to dream of having a gigantic display to play Duke on a comfy couch when I was sitting there with my 14" CRT in a $20 used office chair. Freshened graphics on a 50" HD panel in the den, online multiplayer, and better audio will be _that_ dream come true.

    5. Re:Cmon, atleast get it right! by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I've played some Quake last years, but I never got the deal with duke nuke'm. Probably because I didn't had a PC and we played Quake in school and multiplayer and the 3D of Quake was just better anyway.

      So I may give it to little credits for what it was, but personally I have no need whatsoever to play it. In a day where ID1 let everyone play their "new Quake 3" I'd much rather spend my time with that.

      And I guess most people would prefer to play Halo 2 or 3 or whatever is the latest compared to DN3D.

  11. And by eclectro · · Score: 1

    That means the game is done -- it is now in the hands of Microsoft.

    as they hold it there is this barely perceptible crackling sound as a thousand fissures in the disk appear and as they grow more and more numerous the disk turns to sand and filters through thier fingers and as the sand hits the floor it turns back to the vapor from whence it came.

    Either that countless Xbos systems melt down as people try to play it. It'll be one of those two.

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  12. Worst story ever by Henry+Pate · · Score: 1

    If the editor had even looked at the links in the summary he would've seen it's bullshit. DN3d != DNF. Nice job dropping the ball.

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  13. This is NOT DNF... by el_senator · · Score: 1

    Am i reading this /. article wrong, or am i right that it says that DNF is done and coming to XBLA!? If i read that right, i'd like to correct you. Joe is talking about a ported version of the original Duke Nukem 3D and _not_ DNF. This has nothing to do with DNF at all...

  14. Woot go kdawson by atari2600 · · Score: 1

    Everyone else here pointed out the obvious. Kdawson, I volunteer my time to reading summaries and clicking on links before putting hogwash on games.slashdot (only games!). Thank you.

  15. Nothing to see here, move along... by Ian+Alexander · · Score: 2, Funny

    it is now in the hands of Microsoft.

    Given how long it was taking, I was under the impression that it had been in their hands all along!

  16. This is promotion for Microsft's Xbox... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... not news about Duke Nukem Forever.

  17. Re:A sign... by tcdk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, /. editors not checking the actually story is not a sign of the Apocalypse.

    It's more on the scale of "a sign that /. is not a real news source".

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  18. Re:A sign... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm thinking it's time to bring the Y2K survival kit out of mothballs and restart that bomb shelter home improvement project.

  19. Even the editor by Clarious · · Score: 5, Insightful

    doesn't RTFA

    1. Re:Even the editor by consonant · · Score: 1

      For Pete's sake, he didn't even *HAVE* to RTFA..a simple mouseover on the first URL in the summary alone would've sufficed..sheesh...

  20. Terrible summary guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No DNF, less clue than a monkey. Lame.

  21. Ugh by Skuldo · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Take this down and learn to read please editors.

  22. Amazing by muffen · · Score: 5, Funny

    A Duke Nukem Forever article posted on slashdot, has this ever happened before ?

    Results 1 - 10 of about 852 from slashdot.org for duke nukem forever.

    Lets hope the game actually gets released before we have to read another 800+ articles about it ;)

    1. Re:Amazing by that+IT+girl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How I wish there was a "+1 Best Post Ever" modification for you, muffen.

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      20 DRINK COFFEE
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  23. Duke 3D... by Turiko · · Score: 1

    was a very good game, and i think it's very good it is cross-platformed. What i WOULD hate, tough, is duke nukem forever coming out (if it comes out) on xbox 360 only. It'd be like forcing all xbox players to use mouse and keyboard to play games.

  24. Re:A sign... by thermian · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, /. editors not checking the actually story is not a sign of the Apocalypse.

    It's more on the scale of "a sign that /. is not a real news source".

    Given your low uid, if you haven't realised this by now its probably something you shouldn't worry about...

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  25. Could SOMEONE PLEASE EDIT... by w4rl5ck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... this announcement, making a clear statement that this is NOT Duke Nukem Forever?

    Sorry for shouting, but this is really a complete mess... it might even lead to nervous breakdowns, common outrages, mass panic etc.pp. - not to mention camping havoc before retail stores...

    1. Re:Could SOMEONE PLEASE EDIT... by Spatial · · Score: 5, Funny

      It should be edited to say, "Kdawson is Finally Back, For Real." Gaze upon him ye fact-based, and despair.

    2. Re:Could SOMEONE PLEASE EDIT... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      What about dogs and cats, living together? Mass hysteria?

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  26. August 19th the new April 1st? by VocationalZero · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Today I shall remember forever as the day I was trolled by Hurricane78, who possibly just fooled a /. editor. Would have been more epic if the links were spoofs, too. However, I still humbly applaud and bow before your master trollery.

  27. Re:A sign... by jolyonr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria... Duke Nukem Forever

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  28. List? by Wobble-U · · Score: 1

    Did anyone keep a list of what is supposed to happen after Duke Nukem is released?

    1. Re:List? by Wobble-U · · Score: 1

      Damn, I make a comment and THEN read that it's not DNF. Oh well... did anyone keep a list anyway?

  29. a dream... by darkheart22 · · Score: 1

    Someone please wake me up. I must be dreaming. This is a dream right??? No no no Duke Nukem Forever should be always under development. Something change in the Matrix...

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  30. Tags by VocationalZero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    fps, badsummary, wrongsummary, !dukenukemforever, kdawsonsucks (tagging beta)

    Best. Tags. Ever.

    1. Re:Tags by ari_j · · Score: 2, Informative

      Interestingly enough, one of those tags has been removed. I wonder who did that. Everyone, tag this article kdawsonsucksandisretarded for good measure.

    2. Re:Tags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... kdawsonsucks (tagging beta)

      What does it take to get kdawson's editorial status revoked? Seriously? With frequent tags like "kdawsonsucks" and "kdawsonfud", why this is person still around?

    3. Re:Tags by ari_j · · Score: 1

      Ooh, I almost forgot that a link could make this more interesting. I can only dream of being this popular:
      http://slashdot.org/tags/kdawsonsucks

    4. Re:Tags by Danny+Rathjens · · Score: 1

      Incompetent employees usually stick around because they are cheap.
      I'm still waffling over whether to block all articles posted by kdawson. He's obviously not a programmer/gamer type geek like many of us which is why I think he makes such poor story selections. But he doesn't always screw up so I don't want to miss the good submissions that happen to occur on his watch. They should let us filter on tags so I can just block all his bad story submissions that people tag with kdawsonsucks type tags - hrm, or maybe the spectrum color from firehose? Submission moderation, ftw. :)

    5. Re:Tags by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      kdawson catches a lot of flak around here, I'm sure he's actually a fairly intelligent guy who just occasionally has a bad.. hmm..

      *click*

      Goddamn! He really does suck!

    6. Re:Tags by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

      At this point, I think it's pretty clear that the entire Slashdot 'editor' cadre are Taco's stoner dropout college friends. He'll never replace them, because anyone competent would make him look bad, and they can't get jobs elsewhere for obvious reasons. It's the perfect stable state.

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  31. Fail... by Arimus · · Score: 1

    DN3D != DNF
    Article Summary == Wrong
    Editors == Fail

    Thank god for that or the world would need a new product to hold up as shining example of vapourware ;)

    (Microsoft works which actually lives up to the name would be a candidate, linux desktop edition another)

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  32. Yep by GI+Primal · · Score: 1

    Patiently waiting to be Rick Rolled.... any minute now...

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    1. Re:Yep by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      Here you go.

      New DNF trailer!!!!11!

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    2. Re:Yep by JSDopefish · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Think what you wish.

      One of the primary reasons this was done was an exercise for our programmers on 360 coding, how to interface with Live, etc, etc, etc. This was done on a "smaller" project so that kinks and issues can be worked out for the larger project (DNF).

      If you want to chicken little the world, go ahead. Doesn't make it right. :)

      Joe Siegler
      Webmaster - 3D Realms

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    3. Re:Yep by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At this point the burden of proof is on YOU, my friend. We're not the ones with a decade of bullshit promises that we've never delivered on.

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    4. Re:Yep by Reverend528 · · Score: 5, Funny

      We're not the ones with a decade of bullshit promises that we've never delivered on.

      You're thinking of Will Wright. The DNF team has been making promises for more than a decade.

    5. Re:Yep by austin987 · · Score: 1

      However I suspect what is happening is money is starting to run out. A number of products that they were publishing/producing got transferred to other companies, which suggests they don't have the funds to keep development going. Duke 3D being one of their only properties around, they seem to be trying for another release to get some more cash.

      Note to self:
      When funding poor business venture, seek DNFs funders.

    6. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh please STFU and check your facts. DNF is based on Unreal ONE engine (UT version), and they built their own codebase on top of it. They're not on sync with Epic.

      They don't need to license anything new, stop spreading FUD. Your whole post is flamebait, and only mods that also don't check the facts have modded you up. Plus, they can't be "sold", they are self-funded... there is no one behind them except for Broussard.

      Their costs are also pretty low comparing to other studios. Start googling around to see if I'm lying. (Shacknews would be a good start)

    7. Re:Yep by isorox · · Score: 1

      We've been waiting for years for DNF. I used to play DN3D on a 486 laptop with a serial crossover cable, for hours a day, for about 2 years. Rarely has a game been that fun

      During those 12 years we've heard all about DN4. The Quake 2 engine, but with a fun story? Killer.

      Then you played chase-the-engine for a decade, and the world is fed up. We want results, not hopes.

    8. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice excuse.

      Seriously, I gave up on DNF years ago. With all of the other fun games available now, it doesn't matter how good DNF is. It will be too little, too late and nobody will care about it any more.

    9. Re:Yep by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 1

      Think what you wish.

      Most of us were thinking that 3DR was no longer the longest running joke in gaming history.
      Well, I was.

      One of the primary reasons this was done was an exercise for our programmers on 360 coding, how to interface with Live, etc, etc, etc. This was done on a "smaller" project so that kinks and issues can be worked out for the larger project (DNF).

      Oh, ok so when it is "finished" it will be the Duke version of "Thief 3". Joy.

      If you want to chicken little the world, go ahead. Doesn't make it right. :)

      Yeah, sort of like "it's almost done"...engine change, sorry. Repeat over the past decade.

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    10. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. 3D Realms hasn't done shit since 1997. Your company has published a dozen or so games (most of which were crap Duke Nukem name milking titles), but hasn't actually developed anything since then.

      Under 3D Realms

      Developer

              * 1996 - Duke Nukem 3D
              * 1997 - Shadow Warrior

      Publisher/Producer

              * 1995 - Terminal Velocity - Terminal Reality
              * 1997 - Duke Nukem 64 - Eurocom
              * 1997 - Duke Nukem: Total Meltdown - Aardvark Software
              * 1998 - Duke Nukem: Time to Kill - N-Space
              * 1999 - Duke Nukem: Zero Hour - Eurocom
              * 1999 - Duke Nukem (Game Boy Color) - Torus Games
              * 2000 - Duke Nukem: Land of the Babes - N-Space
              * 2001 - Max Payne - Remedy Entertainment
              * 2002 - Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project - ARUSH Entertainment/Sunstorm Interactive
              * 2003 - Duke Nukem Advance - Torus Games
              * 2003 - Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne - Remedy Entertainment
              * 2004 - Duke Nukem Mobile - Machine Works Northwest/Tapwave
              * 2005 - Duke Nukem Mobile II: Bikini Project - Machine Works Northwest
              * 2005 - Duke Nukem Mobile 3D - Machine Works Northwest
              * 2006 - Prey - Human Head Studios

      Just LOL.

    11. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a practical matter it isn't real likely that DNF would come out now, not just because of it's vaporware status but because it is, yet again, time for another engine change. DNF was being developed on a modified Unreal Engine 2. Ok, no problem... Except that Unreal Engine 3 is out. Not only is it out, there are a bunch of first flight games using it. Bio Shock, Mass Effect, UT3, Rainbow 6 Vegas, this is what people expect new, top of the line shooters to look like. So if they release with a game based on the old engine, well it isn't likely to do so well, especially given all the buildup. Thus they'll need to license UE 3, and then they'll be conversion work for that.

      However I suspect what is happening is money is starting to run out. A number of products that they were publishing/producing got transferred to other companies, which suggests they don't have the funds to keep development going. Duke 3D being one of their only properties around, they seem to be trying for another release to get some more cash.

      I can't say I'm all that surprised, they have done basically nothing as a developer for over a decade, and not a whole lot as a publisher (most of their stuff published this decade are Duke rehashes for various platforms). It can't be cheap to continue working on this game that's never getting released. Compounding that is licensing cost for buying new game engines all the time. 3D engines from companies like Epic and iD are not cheap, and even less so when it is the top of the line engine. They've thus far bought 3 of them (Quake 2, UE 1 and UE 2) and that is going to hit the bottom line.

      Personally, I think they'll go bankrupt before they ever actually get DNF out. Most likely the property will be sold to another studio. Who knows what will come of it? At this point, I just don't see them as being able to get together the money to finish it, even if they did actually stop screwing around and work on getting it out.

      Actually if you checked up on it recently it's noted that it's still using a heavily modified UE2 engine and added some stuff UE3 already has.

    12. Re:Yep by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      One of the primary reasons this was done was an exercise for our programmers on 360 coding

      Wo0T! Legacy. You should at least train them up on System 370, give them a career path.

      Oh...

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  33. Look on the bright side... by tekrat · · Score: 2, Funny

    If it had *actually* been Duke Nukem Forever being released, this particular Slashdot meme would be forever dead... I mean, what else would there be for us to complain about?

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    1. Re:Look on the bright side... by kadehje · · Score: 1, Troll

      Let me highlight some ideas for future complaints:

      "As has been reported around the net today, we can confirm that [Duke Nukem Forever] has indeed passed final certification with Microsoft on Friday the 15th of August (on our first try, no less). That means the game is done â" it is now in the hands of Microsoft."

      Enough said. ;)

    2. Re:Look on the bright side... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      editors?

    3. Re:Look on the bright side... by db32 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't run on Linux
      In doesn't run on Vista
      Two perfectly good starting points.

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    4. Re:Look on the bright side... by Chatsubo · · Score: 1

      Duke Nukem Forever 2

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    5. Re:Look on the bright side... by Philip+Shaw · · Score: 1

      By the time DNF is released, it will have long since been the year of Linux on the desktop, and all nerds will have moved to using the Hurd kernel instead, so no-one will ask "Does it run on Linux".

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      "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."- Winston Churchill
  34. I'm not gonna believe this... by Timosch · · Score: 1

    ...until I can see Duke Nukem Forever-DVDs in the shops.

  35. The Job posting at 3drealms is a RIOT!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from http://www.3drealms.com/gethired.html

    Freedom from arbitrary completion date pressures, which allows the game to be made on its schedule, and not some suit's schedule.

    That is pure win!

  36. Not yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Everybody knows that Duke will be released on December 21, 2012, to coinside with the end of the world! :)

    PS to lameness filter:

    just let me post this, will you?!

    I am human darn'it!

    What, I fail the turing test now?

    And I thought women were hard to please!

    1 2 3 what am I suppose to say to make you love me?

    Oh, fsck it...

  37. Next week... by downix · · Score: 1

    And in the news, next week the Amiga has it's comeback!

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    1. Re:Next week... by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      New Amigas were released years ago - sure, not a "comeback", but big deal. Platforms like Linux and even MacOS have never been the dominant home desktop platform at all.

      You also might as well complain that we're still waiting for the comeback of Classic MacOS or DOS / Windows 9x - most of the contemporaries are now long dead, and live on in trademark names only.

    2. Re:Next week... by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      An interesting article - though not just specific to Linux, I think all modern platforms have a lot in common with the Amiga (as for users, well, there are plenty of "smug" OS X users, and many such as myself moved onto Windows).

      Did I back the wrong choice by using the Amiga in the 80s/90s whilst others chose a DOS based single-tasking machine where "multimedia" was an optional add on? Yet here I am using machines with multitasking GUIs, fast graphics hardware via dedicated chips as standard. (Introductions to Windows 9x programming articles that were written in the 90s are rather amusing - they are obviously written for DOS users, having to hand-hold the reader through "new" concepts such as multitasking.)

      In an alternative world, it might have been another company that bought the Amiga trademark, bought the rights to NeXT, and used it to build a new platform (Amiga OS X?) Instead, it was produced by Apple, and branded a "Mac" - but who cares about being stuck to a particular brandname, I'd rather stick with what works in the way I know. And the experience of modern platforms is at least as close to the Amiga as it is to classic MacOS, and I'd say more so than it is to DOS.

  38. That's it by Tim+C · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    kdawson finally gets *plonk*ed. Seriously, of all the things not to check up on before posting the story.

  39. Ah-ah! Even if it was 'Forever' and not '3D'... by Zwicky · · Score: 1, Troll

    That means the game is done -- it is now in the hands of Microsoft.

    Therein lies the rub.

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  40. I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    After I read the summary I called my boss at home and quit. I then drained our bank account and blew it all on hookers and booze. Now you tell me it was false alarm????? When my wife wakes up what she'll do will make the Apocalypse look like a trip to Disneyland. Note to editors, please fact check articles before posting summaries.

    1. Re:I'm so screwed by Bashae · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Posting to undo accidental bad moderation (hit the wrong option in the dropdown list).

    2. Re:I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't be so ridiculous.

      There's no way you have a wife.

    3. Re:I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      After I read the summary I went and bought a Mac Pro, so you're relatively better off.

    4. Re:I'm so screwed by niceone · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or, note to readers: never act on anything you read on Slashdot, the defence 'I was temporarily under the influence of Slashdot' has not yet been tested in court.

    5. Re:I'm so screwed by sm62704 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Note to editors, please fact check articles before posting summaries

      Now that was the funniest part of your post!

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    6. Re:I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the sad part about this is that you quit, and somehow manage to spend ALL of your money on hookers and booze before your wife woke up. How much money did you have in the bank? $35?

    7. Re:I'm so screwed by Mad_Rain · · Score: 5, Funny

      Note to editors, please fact check articles before posting summaries.

      Now that would be a sure sign of the Apocalypse.

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    8. Re:I'm so screwed by randyest · · Score: 5, Funny

      (1) You missed the joke, (2) it's "loser", and (3) it's "bored." I usually wouldn't bother, but your post has so much compressed failure that it's rather remarkable. I'm still reeling from the time-travel implied by "Then now what."

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    9. Re:I'm so screwed by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Maybe my wife works night shift, you insensitive clod!

    10. Re:I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You would still be a major looser

      What, he would be a laxative? A bottle opener? Work with me here.

    11. Re:I'm so screwed by zarthrag · · Score: 1

      A month? Do you remember the magazine exclusive from 10 years ago? I do. By today's standards - even with good graphics - that game looked like you'd have to be braindead to appreciate what's going on. "Look! It's a ROCKET!!". I'm sure it's not tech holding them back. I'm sure they've got gameplay issues. DNF is going to come out, and everyone out there is going to give it a 1/10 - oh, and no one will buy it.

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    12. Re:I'm so screwed by austin987 · · Score: 1

      Or, note to readers: never act on anything you read on Slashdot, the defence 'I was temporarily under the influence of Slashdot' has not yet been tested in court.

      but 'I did it for the lulz' x3 apparently is legit...

    13. Re:I'm so screwed by Surt · · Score: 1

      The best quality hookers cost 5-10k per hour and earn every penny. Quality booze can be drunk at a rate of about 25k per hour, so if his wife sleeps 8 hours he could have spent 280k, plus about $5 for the viagra he'd probably need to fully enjoy the experience.

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    14. Re:I'm so screwed by Myopic · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think he meant "Than now what..."

    15. Re:I'm so screwed by randyest · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Even it was was" "than now what" still baffled I I were was is am.

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    16. Re:I'm so screwed by BinBoy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Note to editors, please fact check articles before posting summaries.

      The editors don't fact or dupe check and we don't read the articles. It's a little understanding we have around here.

    17. Re:I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best quality hookers cost 5-10k per hour and earn every penny.

      There's nothing a $10,000/hr prostitute (excuse me, "escort") can or will do that a $300/hr prostitute can't or won't do. There just isn't that dynamic a range of techniques. You're overpaying.

      And while there is some brandy that can add up to quite a pretty penny, I'm not sure you could drink $25,000 of it in an hour - if it was $5,000 a shot, can you really down five shots of brandy an hour for eight hours? There are some Bordeaux wines that could add up to $25K an hour, but again, for eight hours? You'd pass out and die long before you got halfway.

    18. Re:I'm so screwed by Surt · · Score: 1

      If you want to sleep with gold medal olympic gymnasts, be prepared to pay more than $300/hr. There are qualitative differences in both what a high priced hooker can do, and in how they look. That may matter to you, if it does, you have to be prepared to pay for it. I mean, anyone can settle for a pimple faced homosexual to jerk them off for $15. But maybe you don't want to.

      As for wine, you can get individual bottles ranging up to about $80,000 (I'm sure there are some more expensive ones I haven't heard of ....).

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      "Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
    19. Re:I'm so screwed by ari_j · · Score: 3, Funny

      IAAL and I desperately want to try it, though, so if you are going to commit a Slashdot-inspired crime* and have the money to fight it on principle**, then do it somewhere I'm licensed to practice law.

      * - Don't do this, please. I honestly don't usually enjoy stupid clients, and this is all a joke anyhow.
      ** - Tied with "sorry" as the most expensive word in the law.

    20. Re:I'm so screwed by Philip+Shaw · · Score: 1

      Some very old wine might be able to get expensive enough, although tracking enough down in the 8 or so hours he has is unlikely to work.

      The key point to remember is that it is blackjack and hookers, not just hookers (although given only 8 hours, I know which I'd choose), so he could loose any amount of money on the cards.

      His real mistake was quitting his job. Why waste the time when your boss won't have time to fire you anyway? (And even if he did, why would you care?)

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    21. Re:I'm so screwed by antek9 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now come on, obviously English is not his mother tongue. My guess, he's half Australian, half Mount Everest.

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      Infinity in the Palm of your Hand / And Eternity in an Hour.
    22. Re:I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thank you. you just made my day.

    23. Re:I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'I was temporarily under the influence of Grand Theft Auto' is a popular one these days, so there might be hope for the 'slashdot made me do it' defense

      Also... something about wookies on Endor

    24. Re:I'm so screwed by timboc007 · · Score: 1

      As a 6'6" Australian... I resemble that remark!

    25. Re:I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Insightful? Really?

      fuckin mod-tards

    26. Re:I'm so screwed by Mike610544 · · Score: 1

      I'm still reeling from the time-travel implied by "Then now what."

      That statement make perfect sense once you accept the truth.

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    27. Re:I'm so screwed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went out and bought Vista so think how stupid I feel!

  41. Re:A sign... by dotancohen · · Score: 1

    This *is* one of the signs of the Apocalypse, right?

    Windows and Linux, living together, mass hysteria!

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  42. DNF by Khemisty · · Score: 1

    Before I RTFA, I already had a comment in mind "I'll believe it when I see it". But alas, no.... Am I the only one who got slightly excited about this being Duke Nukem Forever and then feeling absolutely gutted upon realizing it was 3D? Again? Surely anyone who has wanted to play Duke 3D has, at some point, played it already. I really don't see how "newer" gamers (i.e. those who started gaming after the original playstation) would be interested especially after all the controversy surrounding the vaporware aspect of Forever. Though that being said, I suppose squeezing the last few pennies out of their retired, senile old cash cow might throw some cash towards the development of Forever.. but jesus tap dancing christ, somehow I doubt the final game will even be worth playing in the end!

    1. Re:DNF by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who got slightly excited about this being Duke Nukem Forever and then feeling absolutely gutted upon realizing it was 3D?

      Yes.

      Nobody with any sense ever wants to play DNF. It would be a disaster if they ever did make it, basically a machine of pure hype-fueled hype that they may as well call Snakes on a Plane: The Game for all the people who say they're waiting would actually buy it.

      It would also be a disaster because we will have lost 11 years of our culture. DNF has always been the game that will never exist. How else will we say "never" if it actually comes out? I sudder to think of this loss. If 3D Realms absolutely insists on not just packing up and going home, they should do the right thing and just start working on other projects. Maybe even a Duke with a different name, I don't care. But DNF always has to be their vaporware flagship, or I will just cry.

  43. Yep by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a practical matter it isn't real likely that DNF would come out now, not just because of it's vaporware status but because it is, yet again, time for another engine change. DNF was being developed on a modified Unreal Engine 2. Ok, no problem... Except that Unreal Engine 3 is out. Not only is it out, there are a bunch of first flight games using it. Bio Shock, Mass Effect, UT3, Rainbow 6 Vegas, this is what people expect new, top of the line shooters to look like. So if they release with a game based on the old engine, well it isn't likely to do so well, especially given all the buildup. Thus they'll need to license UE 3, and then they'll be conversion work for that.

    However I suspect what is happening is money is starting to run out. A number of products that they were publishing/producing got transferred to other companies, which suggests they don't have the funds to keep development going. Duke 3D being one of their only properties around, they seem to be trying for another release to get some more cash.

    I can't say I'm all that surprised, they have done basically nothing as a developer for over a decade, and not a whole lot as a publisher (most of their stuff published this decade are Duke rehashes for various platforms). It can't be cheap to continue working on this game that's never getting released. Compounding that is licensing cost for buying new game engines all the time. 3D engines from companies like Epic and iD are not cheap, and even less so when it is the top of the line engine. They've thus far bought 3 of them (Quake 2, UE 1 and UE 2) and that is going to hit the bottom line.

    Personally, I think they'll go bankrupt before they ever actually get DNF out. Most likely the property will be sold to another studio. Who knows what will come of it? At this point, I just don't see them as being able to get together the money to finish it, even if they did actually stop screwing around and work on getting it out.

  44. Apocalyps Now! by laejoh · · Score: 2, Funny

    w00sh, w00sh, w00sh, w00sh, w00sh...

    Xbox 360... shit; I'm still only coding for Xbox 360... Every time I think I'm gonna wake up back behind my pc coding Duke Nukem Forever forever. When I was home after my first checkin it was worse. I'd wake up and there'd be nothing. I hardly said a word to my wife, until I said "yes" to a divorce. When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the source code. I'm here a week now... waiting for a lock... getting softer; every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Microsoft squats in the log files, he gets stronger. Each time I looked around, the walls moved in a little tighter.

    1. Re:Apocalyps Now! by BigBlueOx · · Score: 1

      Thank you. That made my day. If I had mod points I would drop them on you like pipe bombs.

    2. Re:Apocalyps Now! by laejoh · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't that have been napalm instead of pipe bombs?

      You know I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this war's gonna end...

  45. Misnomer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Duke Nukem Never

  46. It better be good when/if it ever shows up. by Xanavi · · Score: 1

    How much you want to bet it will suck anyway. Duke Nukem "FOREVER" What if it never existed the whole time?

  47. Dear kdawson, by Crotch+Jenkins · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You are an absolute fucking retard. Please go away.

    Love,
    Crotch Jenkins

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  48. So! by Bandman · · Score: 1

    THIS is where they've been getting all their DN:F video and picture footage

  49. MODS.... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

    ....put a gold star on the GP's geek card!

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    1. Re:MODS.... by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 2

      Flying out of the sun The smell of toast is in the air, When there's a job to be done, The flying toasters will be there, And its Flap! Flap! Flap! Now help is on the way, This vicâ(TM)try song they sing, We pop up to save the day, On Mighty Toaster Wings! In Brightest Day or After Dark, When times of trouble are at hand, The Flying Toasters set a spark, And hope is blazing âcross the land! And its Flap! Flap! Flap! Salvation from above, A precious gift they bring: Gleaming Angels of Love, On Migh-ty Toast-er Wings!

    2. Re:MODS.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      vicâ(TM)try

      Seriously, why insist on using Unicode when (a) you know Slashdot doesn't support it and (b) the vertical tick ("'") is perfectly serviceable in this context?

      And furthermore, shouldn't that be vict'ry?

    3. Re:MODS.... by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      ctrl-v made me do it!

  50. If you believed this... by bistromath007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You just got Dukerolled. :V

  51. Hey guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey guys, this is about Duke Nukem 3D for the Xbox 360, not about DNF. Just in case nobody has mentioned it yet.

  52. Hail to the.. by Higaran · · Score: 1

    KING BABY!!! Sorry I just had to, it beaing the duke and all. I hope the at least update the graphics a little.

  53. Re:A sign... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    /. is not a real news source".

    Don't you talk bad about my Slashdot.

    It's...it's all I've got left now that I've drunk up all the Yoo-hoo and anisette. ..bastards.

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  54. Needless flamebait by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm wondering if maybe Hurricane78 is a console gamer, and therefore has no knowledge of FPS games on the PC. It's possible people would read "Duke Nukem 3D" and assume it must be the "Forever" game, because that's the only Duke Nukem they're aware of.

    After all, generic common-as-muck shooters such as the Halo franchise and Gears of War are elevated to Godlike status by console gamers, and I can only presume it's because they've never actually played shooters before that didn't suck. As far as decent shooters go, consoles don't really have much of a history. There's Goldeneye 007 on the N64, but not much else.

    Point being, if you'd never heard of DN3D then you might mistake this announcement as being the final name of the "Duke Nukem Forever" project, in the way that Longhorn became Vista. So maybe that explains the journal entry. kdawson's contribution can be explained by his or her general uselessness as an editor.

    1. Re:Needless flamebait by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Somewhere out there, I'm sure there are people who think Sands of Time was the first Prince of Persia...

    2. Re:Needless flamebait by pthisis · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      It's possible people would read "Duke Nukem 3D" and assume it must be the "Forever" game, because that's the only Duke Nukem they're aware of.

      I can't be the only one who still thinks of the original Duke Nukem when I see the name, and its primary shareware competitor--Commander Keen (one of id Software's first games).

      I was very confused in college 12 years ago when I heard people talking about how awesome Duke Nukem is (to this day I've still never actually seen the 3d version) since it's a fairly cheesy platform side-scroller.

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    3. Re:Needless flamebait by ari_j · · Score: 1

      kdawson's contribution can be explained by his or her general uselessness as a human being.

      There, I fixed that for you.

    4. Re:Needless flamebait by ari_j · · Score: 1

      I just re-read the Slashdot blurb. Hurricane78 didn't make any mention of Duke Nukem Forever. Every single mention of it was by kdawson.

    5. Re:Needless flamebait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TIMESPLITTERS!

    6. Re:Needless flamebait by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 1

      Hm, I thought the blurb was just a promotion of Hurricane78's journal entry - or did kdawson somehow modify the journal entry as well? Having never used the /. journal (and certainly never gotten it promoted to a story) I don't really know how that works...

    7. Re:Needless flamebait by ari_j · · Score: 1

      Ah, you're right. Scratch that, they're both dumb. :P

    8. Re:Needless flamebait by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 1

      The cheesiness is part of its appeal; kind of pisstake of how the entertainment industry portrays heroic characters. Duke 3D was actually pretty good, so long as you either enjoyed or ignored the testosterone fest.

      It also wasn't entirely 3D, if I recall correctly: the environments were, but the enemies were 2D sprites like in Wolfenstein 3D and Doom.

    9. Re:Needless flamebait by lennier · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Duke Nukem 2, which was still a side-scroller but was pretty impressive.

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    10. Re:Needless flamebait by TriggerFin · · Score: 1

      It's possible people would read "Duke Nukem 3D" and assume it must be the "Forever" game, because that's the only Duke Nukem they're aware of.

      I can't be the only one who still thinks of the original Duke Nukem when I see the name....

      You mean the original "Duke Nukum," no?

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    11. Re:Needless flamebait by Evildonald · · Score: 1

      I'm starting to notice that kdawson keeps appearing as the editor of factually inaccurate inflammatory articles.

    12. Re:Needless flamebait by pthisis · · Score: 1

      No, it was Duke Nukem first, then changed to Nukum later, then back to Nukem.

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    13. Re:Needless flamebait by Sciros · · Score: 1

      Blah, you seem to be a PC shooter elitist :-( Well, PC's got a lot of good ones, consoles have probably as many good ones, and nowadays they're usually cross-platform anyway (PC gets Halo/Gears eventually, consoles get FEAR eventually, and games like Bioshock are multiplatform from the get-go). Gears isn't even a FPS technically, and it's certainly not "common-as-muck," as I've yet to see a tactical co-op game that's as fun (even co-op Halo isn't quite as good).

      Reason people like Halo and Gears is that they not only brought something new to the table (though Halo didn't bring *as* much), but that they were VERY polished games. The way Blizzard's WoW isn't exactly the most original game ever but just damn well put together.

      Perfect Dark's better than Goldeneye, heh. Though if there were no Goldeneye there wouldn't have been PD (it was supposed to be another Bond game but United Artists went retarded and decided not to give Rare the license anymore following Goldeneye).

      It's true, though, that prior to Halo, Goldeneye and PD were about the only good shooters on the console (oh, and Turok 1 and 2 were cool as well; 3 was horrid). And you're right that Halo was overrated, in large part because many people didn't realize it wasn't the only FPS ever made. But, consoles definitely hold their own with PCs nowadays in terms of shooting games, whether 1st person (Call of Duty 4, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Halo, Bioshock, etc.) or 3rd (Resident Evil 4+, Gears, Mass Effect, etc.).

      That all being said, it really helps to know what a game *is* before talking about it, so yeah I suppose all-in-all I agree with almost everything you wrote. All but the "generic common-as-muck shooters" bit.

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  55. Maybe by dgun · · Score: 1

    Maybe Slashdot editors did check the summary. Maybe they just wanted to see all of you dance.

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  56. Slashdot is way past it's prime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not only is the news old now, it's also incorrect. Awesome!

  57. Accurate by Mishra100 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The article doesn't lie!

    The Duke Nukem episodes ARE going to go on forever.

  58. Heaven by 10Neon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why did you do that in the first place? if the End is coming, certainly it means you're just hours away from stripper factories and beer volcanoes.

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    1. Re:Heaven by F34nor · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...unless of course you're not one of the 144k chosen (electons all rays cause explosions.)

    2. Re:Heaven by doc_doofus · · Score: 1

      I think that has recently been upgraded to 256K.

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    3. Re:Heaven by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who knew that that limitation was due to storage space all along. I look forward to the new 18-bit heaven.

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    4. Re:Heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      640K ought to be enough for any afterlife.

    5. Re:Heaven by againjj · · Score: 1

      ...unless of course you're not one of the 144k chosen (electons all rays cause explosions.)

      144k comes from Revelations, for those that don't know. It is interpreted literally by Jehovah's Witnesses.

    6. Re:Heaven by F34nor · · Score: 1

      Just so you know if the biblical shit goes down right now you have a 2.18108317 × 10-5 chance of getting into Heaven.

      Now as so this "...interpreted literally..." shit everyone knows that the bible is the perfect un-edited un-translated direct from g-d gospel truth and is flawless in every way. So 144K it is.

  59. Nobody actually reads the article... by Zarf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We're very pleased to announce that "Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox LIVE Arcade" will be coming to your Xbox 360 console soon!

    So it's been Duke Nukem 3D we've been waiting for? Or did they change the name from Duke Nukem Forever? Because if you've all been waiting fro Duke Nukem 3D then that's been out for a while and you can all stop holding yer breath. If you are waiting for Duke Nukem Forever.... well then you've still got some waiting to do.

    Oh and by the way. According to these articles McCain is actually a space alien and this article clearly states that Obama is a time-traveler. Don't believe me? Read the article... if you don't how would you know if the article says that or not?

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  60. DNF = ... by GrahamCox · · Score: 1

    In some sports, including car rallying, DNF stands for DID NOT FINISH. Apropos, somehow...

  61. Several? SEVERAL? by IBBoard · · Score: 1

    There's now an edit that "several" people have pointed out that it's Duke Nukem 3D and not Forever? Only "several"? Not "lots" or "hordes" or "huge numbers"?

    Since this is from a Journal, I hope Hurricane has fun extolling the wonders of this new game that only he has found, or complaining about the quality of the graphics after so long in development (whichever happens to be his preference).

  62. I propose kdawson change his handle by Megaweapon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    to "faildawson" (amirite?)

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  63. Story line by TheCount22 · · Score: 1

    To be honest I wouldn't care if the engine wasn't the latest and greatest technology. However, they better have the most amazing plot ever. They've had 11 years to come up with it already!

  64. Textmate 2? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean Textmate 2 is ready for purchase as well?

  65. Where's the kdawsonsucks Tag? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You frickin' loser.

  66. Re:A sign... by tcdk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Get of my lawn, or I'll throw this onion I've hanging in ma' belt at ya'...

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  67. Re:A sign... by witherstaff · · Score: 1

    Do you realize that according to the court and the FCC 'real news' can distort or blatantly lie all they want?

    I'd rather trust a fellow geek than some guy in a suit on TV.

  68. Re:A sign... by Jogar+the+Barbarian · · Score: 2, Funny

    > Get off my lawn

    Get off my pile of rocks.

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  69. The Duke? by lorg · · Score: 1

    I'm very disappointed. A silly game. I thought they had finally managed to resurrect John Wayne!

  70. At this rate.... by mmullings · · Score: 1

    I just hope I still have an old x86 system laying around to play it when it comes out. I better put an extra system in a vault somewhere....

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  71. Elmer Fudd as Col. Kurtz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dweamed of a snaiw, cwawing acwoss the edge of a wazow. That is my dweam. That is my nightmawe. Heh-h-h-h-h-h-h!

  72. The second mistake in the original article by JSDopefish · · Score: 5, Informative

    A more minor error in the story is that my name is not Jon. It's Joe.

    -- Joe Siegler,
    Webmaster 3D Realms

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    1. Re:The second mistake in the original article by remisramos · · Score: 1

      "As has been reported around the net today, we can confirm that the game has indeed passed final certification with Microsoft on Friday the 15th of August (on our first try, no less). That means the game is done - it is now in the hands of Microsoft. At this time we cannot give you details on release date or points cost, as we do not have that information. There's plenty of really cool stuff in this new update to a classic title. While we're not quite ready to divulge everything yet, we can tell you this."

      - IF AT LEAST THIS PARAGRAPH WASN'T THAT DELIBERATELY VAGUE... You just CAN'T throw an "it's done" anywhere near the 3dRealms site... you can kill people -lives and/or careers- by doing that! (take the editor for example)

    2. Re:The second mistake in the original article by jeremiahbell · · Score: 1

      Being webmaster you'd know if the 3D Realms website was switching to another technology platform, with all the "3.0" web technologies, you know? Web 2.0 with lots of custom coding could probably still look modern though, heh?

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    3. Re:The second mistake in the original article by atari2600 · · Score: 1

      Hi!

  73. No RTFA? Editors sure have... by Man+in+Spandex · · Score: 1

    Balls of steel :D

  74. This ruined the whole month, not just the day... by remisramos · · Score: 1

    C'mon, don't you people realize that there might be lives at stake in this? -both in the developer's side and the fans?) I've personally betted my hair on the Duke (I'll shave my head the day DNF comes out) and a friend and I are planning to get tattoos conmemorating the date... When you just expect something to be "whenever", IT'S FUCKIN' WHENEVER!!! --- f*ck you, kdawson -and you can quote me on that-... I hope you did that on purpose to get your name noticed. I did notice it... argh

  75. Timeline by dword · · Score: 1

    Right... We have better chances of seeing Duke Nukem Forever before that game!

  76. Awwww, don't make us work! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But fact checking would require moving the cursor, clicking, thinking, reading stuff. It is so hard and complicated. I was up all night playing GTA4 too. Things are so nice and quiet here at Slashdot HQ. Nap time...so sleepy...

  77. thank fucking cthulhu for this one by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tropical storm blowing outside, sky all dark, internet out so I'm having to use neighbor's wifi, and now I thought for a moment Duke Nuke'em Forever was finally coming out. I expected to see another sign of the apocalypse at any moment!

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  78. DukeNukem? by StickANeedleInMyEye · · Score: 1

    I thought somebody resurrected John Wayne

  79. Is it April 1st already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How long have I been sleeping?

  80. How it started: by acvh · · Score: 1

    "we'll just keep making Duke Nukem, forever."

  81. Re:A sign... by boarder · · Score: 2, Informative

    A) 173945 is a low UID these days? Shit, I'm pissed I didn't sign up with my friend in the 14,000s... and he's pissed he didn't sign up before there were UIDs.

    B) You missed his joke. He is fully aware of the fact /. isn't a fact checked news source and was just pointing out that this retarded "story" is something that should surprise nobody.

    C) Screw you, Jogar the Barbarian (5830)... you are supposed to wait for a 5 digit to post before you as a 4 digit posts. Then someone with a 3 digit should post. That's how low UID epeen threads are supposed to go.

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  82. Confucius say by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

    Confucius say "Duke Nukem like geek's girlfriend. Existence uncertain."

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  83. Not of significant interest by bradbury · · Score: 1

    What about those of us who have never played a computer game (Duke em whatever we could care less). I would have thought that the moderators at /. would approve topics of significance.

    I guess I was wrong.

    1. Re:Not of significant interest by Philip+Shaw · · Score: 1

      you're on games.slashdot.org. You should expect games news, you retard. What did you think you would find?

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  84. Re:A sign... by Puppeteer_23 · · Score: 1

    Heh, I wish I could remember what my ID was about 8-9 (/. been around that long? jeez.) years ago.... don' even know what uid I would've been back then.

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  85. Re:A sign... by PuppeteerJPV · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah, here it is. ;) I hadn't even thought about this account until this thread. weird.

  86. Re:A sign... by thermian · · Score: 1

    Your Onions are weak, old man...

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  87. Da Hah Haaah! by PalmKiller · · Score: 1

    I knew he would be back, oh wait...nevermind.

  88. John Wayne? by Perf · · Score: 1

    John Wayne is back from the dead?!!!

  89. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With Duke Nukem 3D for XBLA out, development can finally focus on Duke Nukem Forever. Expect it VERY soon!

  90. Turn in my Geek creds... by pmbasehore · · Score: 1

    I have given up hope on DNF for so long now that when I read the article, the first thing in my mind was "John Wayne's back? What?"

    I guess I need to turn in my geek card now...

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  91. I think by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As the other poster said, the burden of proof is on YOU. I've been hearing of DNF for over a decade, and thus far there's nothing to show for it. I don't claim to be an expert on the development cycle, but I do know more than a little about computer technology. I know that things change FAST and what you did 10 years ago doesn't cut it today.

    You want people like me to quit giving you shit for rehashes of Duke 3D? Then release DNF, and it'd better not suck. You can't do that because it's still not "done" after a decade of work? Well then expect to take crap. In the time you have been not releasing DNF, Epic (another shareware company from the DOS days) has managed to Unreal, Unreal Tournament, Unreal II, UT2003, UT2004, UT3, Gears of War, and soon Gears of War 2. All this while managing to develop 3 versions of a top notch engine that now runs a large amount of the shooters out there (yours included, if you ever get it out).

    You can maybe see why then people are a little disdainful of what you've accomplished, or rather not accomplished. It isn't as though I can't go on for other game development studios. How about Bioware, who has done Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 (and expansions), MDK2, Knights of the Old Republic, Jade Empire, and Mass Effect, as well as the Infinity, Aurora and Odyssey engines. Other development houses have been producing many works over this decade, and not just yearly titles that suck, great games that stand the test of time.

    So expect the skepticism, criticism, and outright mocking to continue unless you put up the goods. A decade is an unheard of amount of time for game development.

  92. No by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    They come up with new ideas all the time. Mass Effect, for example, is an amazing game. If you like RPGs, you should go buy it today. What they have realized is that just because something is old, doesn't mean people stopped liking it. Yes I play mostly new games, doesn't mean I don't want to dust off the old favorites once and awhile. Baldur's Gate II is still an awesome game, and I still like playing it.

    1. Re:No by fastest+fascist · · Score: 1

      Just to provide an alternate viewpoint on Mass Effect - I like RPGs, especially ones with good stories. Mass effect was decidedly mediocre. Cookiecutter design, uninteresting cardboard characters, a plot straight out of the space opera for dummies guide book and and side quests that you do a few of and realize you'd rather sit in your chair and stare at the walls than drudge through yet another desert planet with your MAKO.

      Now, clearly people like the game. That's fine with me, but I'd like to point out it's not for everyone.

  93. Who tagged it "epicfail," though? by Valdrax · · Score: 3, Funny

    DN3D != DNF
    Article Summary == Wrong
    Editors == Fail

    Yes, but who tagged it "epicfail?"

    It's "3D Realms" that failed, not Epic.

    Clearly, that's an entirely different company.

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    1. Re:Who tagged it "epicfail," though? by Arimus · · Score: 1

      True, but wasn't me...

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  94. Anonymous but not coward (just bastard :)) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CanÂt believe. Has the NASA confirmed the launch?.
    I must be dreaming.
    Sign of Armageddon?... itÂs impossible, states has not a black president yet (??) ...wait. ;)

  95. hell is still hot... by logicassasin · · Score: 1

    pigs still move about on land, and DNF is still unreleased.

    moving right along...

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  96. The Duke is back?? by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    I thought John Wayne was dead... Oh, wait - you must mean the guy from GI Joe, then...

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  97. N64 by natebizu · · Score: 1

    I can finally sell my Nintendo 64.

  98. Release Date for Forever by kildurin · · Score: 1

    Duke Nukem Forever will release on Dec 21, 2012. Look up the date. I am sure you will agree with me.

  99. Oh well by duckInferno · · Score: 1

    It's a shame it's not DNF but Duke 3D kicks ass all the same. It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of gum.

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  100. DON'T PANIC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr Prosser: "But the plans were on display..."
    Arthur: "On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them."
    Mr Prosser: "That's the display department."
    Arthur: "With a torch."
    Mr Prosser: "Ah, well the lights had probably gone."
    Arthur: "So had the stairs."
    Mr Prosser: "But look, you found the notice didn't you?"
    Arthur: "Yes," said Arthur, "yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard."

  101. System requirements by Nonillion · · Score: 1

    This is all well and good, but are the system requirements still going to be a 486DX2 66MHz, 4Mb ram, DOS 5.0 and a 30MB HD space or better?

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  102. Still a Great Game by Salsaholicc · · Score: 1

    While it may have been posted without the proper facts, Duke Nukem 3D is still awesome. I still own the game for the Nintendo 64. Now Xbox 360 owners get the pleasure of playing the game. I think the funnest part of the game is playing 4 player death match with some friends. The game moves so fast it stays exciting for a long time.

  103. Re:A sign... by ksd1337 · · Score: 1

    And the MAFIAA finally stops being assholes, and a Libertarian is elected president, and copyright is abolished... I'm asking for too much.

  104. It occurs to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... that if DNF, when it's finally finished, does not include pig-policemen wearing jetpacks, there will be no justice in the world.

  105. What are you talking about? :( by dopefish7590 · · Score: 1

    First of all, nothing has been said about this by either Microsoft or 3DRealms... If this were true, there should at least be 1 topic on their forums... (,URL:http://forums.3drealms.com>) Second, it's "Joe Siegler" not "Jon Siegler".

  106. YES!!!!!!! by Schmyz · · Score: 1

    ...another way to waste time between client meetings!!!!!!!!

  107. Definitely not DNF. by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

    AAAARGH! Thanks for getting my hopes up, this news is only about the ports of DN3D for the 360!

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