OpenBSD doesn't support SMP for security reasons and for reasons of simple practicality. Most users of OpenBSD use it for firewalling and such. No need for SMP there. If you really need to crunch seti@home that badly, then by all means use free or linux.
Theo was the maintainter of NetBSDs SPARC port. For whatever reason, (it really depends who you ask. NetBSD guys says Theo was a dick, the people who sided with Theo say that one guy had a problem with him and blew everything way out of proportion) Theo was kicked out. Later Theo grabbed what he could of NetBSD and forked it into OpenBSD.
You are right on Theo getting rooted. This sufficiently propelled the OpenBSD team into the security first approach that has made them so famous.
I've never experienced one, but I've seen them done with my own eyes.
For those that are wondering, bone marrow is INSIDE your bones, and to get at it you obviously have to get inside the bones. No problem, right? Just give the guy some anesthetic and jab a needle in and grab it. Except that because of the frailty of the stuff, you can't give a person the anesthetic. So while they are wide awake without any painkillers, they jab/drill into your bones and suck it out.
The real ticker offer is that the recipient needs to only be injected with the stuff like a regular needle.
This is differnent and you know it, dork. Whilst Microsoft made it obvious that they were bundling IE into windows (and never tried to hide it), Verisign in making it look like they are in fact the origional registrar that the person signed up with. This is deception, whilst the IE thing was nothing more than leveraging ones products by (ab)using a Monopoly. Two whole different ballparks.
it was
"640K ought to be enough for anybody" not "you will never need more than 64kb of ram"
Re:Here's an older collection of spam responses
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This is my favorite one from this link:
Mr. Spammer, you swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As they say in Texas. I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.
You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.
You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.
I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?
Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.
You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.
You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.
And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake? You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.
On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.
You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.
You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away. I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you my not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.
The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.
Re:And that's just for Bill's salary accounting...
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Microsoft has always pondered why nobody uses Windows on Ultra-high end hardware such as this. One reason is that organizations that get this kind of hardware want extreme customizability. Microsoft would have to allow these organizations reasonable access to their source code. Even if Microsoft were to do this, the terms for this would be hightly strict, so most people figure, mah, the hell with it.
Another point is the fact that Windows has only been released on a handfull of architectures. To have systems such as this, you need support for ungodly amounts of memory. The best platform for windows at this point is X86, which is limited without more hacks that are worth the time and money.
Even with windows NT on Alpha, windows didn't even come close to tapping the full potential of the architecture. At the time windows NT was the core product for MS servers, MS had a different agenda. Now that the Itaniums are coming, its a good bet that MS may want to try their hand at this market...but I don't think they'll get far.
If this is YOUR GPLed module, you have the RIGHT to Re-Licence your code to anyone you choose.
This is something that people don't realize. When you put something under the GPL, YOU say that ANYONE can use your software/code under the terms of it. But you CAN STILL make SEPARATE licenses to third parties which can be as restrictive or unrestrictive as you please.
However, if this GPLed code you speak of was written by somebody else, you're fucked unless you can get that person to re-license the code for you.
You can do HTTP installs of OpenBSD, and if your firewall blocks HTTP then you might as well just unplug your net connection.
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I'm assuming this is a flame, but...
Theo de Raadt is the FOUNDER and LEADER of the OpenBSD project. He was kicked out of the NetBSD (for which he was also a founder) for what they said were "behavioral" problems (which is somewhat true, but it was really more politics). So you may have real life experience (wow, so important you had to BOLD) with all those UNIXes, but he has real life experience CODING them.
Second, that isn't the real Theo. He didn't even spell the name right. Its Theo de Raadt, not Theo DeRaadt.
Thirdly, OpenBSD is just as good at what it does as Net/FreeBSD. Bind, Apache, and almost everything else compile just as fine on OpenBSD as they do on Net/FreeBSD and Linux. As for "comfortable"...well....thats a matter of opinion. NetBSD tries to port to everything first and works on other projects second (theres nothing wrong with it, its just what they do). OpenBSD works more on the practical side. You'll never see an (official) dreamcast port simply because it not practical for what OpenBSD does. Lets not also forget that the OpenBSD's "anal-retentive" security policy has brought us free versions of SSH. Also, just because freeBSD doesn't have other ports, doesn't mean its not portable. They just chose to focus on two architectures for what they see as practicality.
You are right on one thing. That was just another/. whiner kiddie.
Re:Where are the Free ISO images of OpenBSD?
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lol, you really think the real theo wastes his time on/.?
lol...
Sun sued Microsoft to remove the Windows only extentions from thier Virtual Machine (hence breaking the Java API. Its in the Java license that you can't do that). Microsoft just decided "to hell with you" and removed the whole Virtual machine. It was the same story with Microsoft J++.
It is. Luckily, so far it doesn't look like a remote hole. Even if it was, OpenBSD would still have a far better track record than any other OS out there.
Even if he DID say the quote, it has definately been taken out of context. If he did say it, he meant 640K ought to me enough for anybody FOR NOW. He was probably reffering to what limitations they should aim for in CURRENT (back then) hardware and software support. Nobody is that shortsighted, not even Bill Gates.
You may want to put the "meter" on the main page for paying users (if its not already like that). That way we can see just how much we've got left so we can plan ahead to reload our money.
As for me paying, I'll do it when (1) I can do it without using paypal and (2) after a month or 2 when its matured and the kinks are woven out...unless these new pig ads that are coming are REALLY annoying. We'll see.
Do you know what a great feature would be for slashdot? Some kind of auto-inform for software updates. You'd have a list of software that registered users could grab, then when a new release of them comes out it auto posts a story for their user with the changelog. No more millions of users jamming the submission queues with tons of "Linux 2.14.14RC12Pre35Test43 Release...PLEASE USE MIRRORS"
So say if I clicked off Apache, Linux Kernel, OpenBSD, and PuTTY. So whenever a release of one of these came out it would automatically post a story on my custum main page like this:
Apache 1.3.23 released Apache 1.3.23 has been released. Major chances/updates include blah blah blah.
Changelog This
That
This as well
Fixed this bug
Fixed that bug
Etc, etc, etc...
Of course you'd either have to get an extra user to constantly check for software updates that you have OR you'd have to get software makers to set up a standard format to send this kind of information around. It would be great for sysadmins, of which there are a lot at Slashdot!
Some ideas
-you should take away the karma cap for those who pay.
-you should clearify what counts as a page view (refreshes, checking posts later, checking my settings, etc)
-you should give us a "bonus" or priority when posting, since most of the payers will probably not be trolls or 37337 H4X0R5.
K5 is very different to Slashdot. If you are looking for tech news, then k5 is NOT the place to go. Most of k5 is just philisophical bullshit or copies of recent posts to other news sites. k5 is a great idia in theory, but all the stories are the same repetetive crap.
Slashdot Mirror
um, actually OpenBSD doesn't have ANY SMP support. So if you add more procs it'll only use one.
OpenBSD doesn't support SMP for security reasons and for reasons of simple practicality. Most users of OpenBSD use it for firewalling and such. No need for SMP there. If you really need to crunch seti@home that badly, then by all means use free or linux.
Thats not the real Theo. Its really spelled Theo de Raadt, not DeRaadt. Its just some troll who likes to think he acts like him.
You are right on Theo getting rooted. This sufficiently propelled the OpenBSD team into the security first approach that has made them so famous.
For those that are wondering, bone marrow is INSIDE your bones, and to get at it you obviously have to get inside the bones. No problem, right? Just give the guy some anesthetic and jab a needle in and grab it. Except that because of the frailty of the stuff, you can't give a person the anesthetic. So while they are wide awake without any painkillers, they jab/drill into your bones and suck it out.
The real ticker offer is that the recipient needs to only be injected with the stuff like a regular needle.
If you're only going to need space for code, then use a website instead. It allows for easy/smoother updates.
nya, I'm just tired of people saying "why is this news?", "slashdot is going downhill" and such...once
This is differnent and you know it, dork. Whilst Microsoft made it obvious that they were bundling IE into windows (and never tried to hide it), Verisign in making it look like they are in fact the origional registrar that the person signed up with. This is deception, whilst the IE thing was nothing more than leveraging ones products by (ab)using a Monopoly. Two whole different ballparks.
it was "640K ought to be enough for anybody" not "you will never need more than 64kb of ram"
Mr. Spammer, you swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As they say in Texas. I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.
You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.
You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.
I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?
Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.
You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.
You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.
And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake? You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.
On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.
You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.
You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away. I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you my not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.
The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.
P.S.
You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine,conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, clueless, and generally Not Good.
In other words, go away.
Another point is the fact that Windows has only been released on a handfull of architectures. To have systems such as this, you need support for ungodly amounts of memory. The best platform for windows at this point is X86, which is limited without more hacks that are worth the time and money.
Even with windows NT on Alpha, windows didn't even come close to tapping the full potential of the architecture. At the time windows NT was the core product for MS servers, MS had a different agenda. Now that the Itaniums are coming, its a good bet that MS may want to try their hand at this market...but I don't think they'll get far.
This is something that people don't realize. When you put something under the GPL, YOU say that ANYONE can use your software/code under the terms of it. But you CAN STILL make SEPARATE licenses to third parties which can be as restrictive or unrestrictive as you please.
However, if this GPLed code you speak of was written by somebody else, you're fucked unless you can get that person to re-license the code for you.
Reg hack'll do it on a win2k/xp box: Reg Hack
You can do HTTP installs of OpenBSD, and if your firewall blocks HTTP then you might as well just unplug your net connection.
Theo de Raadt is the FOUNDER and LEADER of the OpenBSD project. He was kicked out of the NetBSD (for which he was also a founder) for what they said were "behavioral" problems (which is somewhat true, but it was really more politics). So you may have real life experience (wow, so important you had to BOLD) with all those UNIXes, but he has real life experience CODING them.
Second, that isn't the real Theo. He didn't even spell the name right. Its Theo de Raadt, not Theo DeRaadt.
Thirdly, OpenBSD is just as good at what it does as Net/FreeBSD. Bind, Apache, and almost everything else compile just as fine on OpenBSD as they do on Net/FreeBSD and Linux. As for "comfortable"...well....thats a matter of opinion. NetBSD tries to port to everything first and works on other projects second (theres nothing wrong with it, its just what they do). OpenBSD works more on the practical side. You'll never see an (official) dreamcast port simply because it not practical for what OpenBSD does. Lets not also forget that the OpenBSD's "anal-retentive" security policy has brought us free versions of SSH. Also, just because freeBSD doesn't have other ports, doesn't mean its not portable. They just chose to focus on two architectures for what they see as practicality.
You are right on one thing. That was just another /. whiner kiddie.
lol, you really think the real theo wastes his time on /.?
lol...
Sun sued Microsoft to remove the Windows only extentions from thier Virtual Machine (hence breaking the Java API. Its in the Java license that you can't do that). Microsoft just decided "to hell with you" and removed the whole Virtual machine. It was the same story with Microsoft J++.
sendmail is enabled by default, but listens only on loopback...
It is. Luckily, so far it doesn't look like a remote hole. Even if it was, OpenBSD would still have a far better track record than any other OS out there.
Even if he DID say the quote, it has definately been taken out of context. If he did say it, he meant 640K ought to me enough for anybody FOR NOW. He was probably reffering to what limitations they should aim for in CURRENT (back then) hardware and software support. Nobody is that shortsighted, not even Bill Gates.
meh, was just an idea :-)
As for me paying, I'll do it when (1) I can do it without using paypal and (2) after a month or 2 when its matured and the kinks are woven out...unless these new pig ads that are coming are REALLY annoying. We'll see.
So say if I clicked off Apache, Linux Kernel, OpenBSD, and PuTTY. So whenever a release of one of these came out it would automatically post a story on my custum main page like this:
Apache 1.3.23 released
Apache 1.3.23 has been released. Major chances/updates include blah blah blah.
Changelog
This
That
This as well
Fixed this bug
Fixed that bug
Etc, etc, etc...
Of course you'd either have to get an extra user to constantly check for software updates that you have OR you'd have to get software makers to set up a standard format to send this kind of information around. It would be great for sysadmins, of which there are a lot at Slashdot!
Some ideas -you should take away the karma cap for those who pay. -you should clearify what counts as a page view (refreshes, checking posts later, checking my settings, etc) -you should give us a "bonus" or priority when posting, since most of the payers will probably not be trolls or 37337 H4X0R5.
K5 is very different to Slashdot. If you are looking for tech news, then k5 is NOT the place to go. Most of k5 is just philisophical bullshit or copies of recent posts to other news sites. k5 is a great idia in theory, but all the stories are the same repetetive crap.