They certainly are, but society has decided that it has a moral authority to enact some worker safety laws because members of the society are sometimes incapable of assessing risk in various working scenarios
Now, explain what worker safety laws have to do with wage legislation. What moral authority does society have in determining the manner of my compensation?
Maybe I want a per-email payment. Piece Work isnt immoral, is it? Brazil just outlawed considering the after-hours fielding of email as piece work, demanding that it be considered only "overtime."
Maybe I feel the after-hours access to me is worth more than my base rate multiplied by some time and scale factor. This is dictating the manner of that compensation, thereby reducing both my freedom and my employers.
It's the peons who use the fuck out of their smartphones, as well as the company's bandwidth streaming music and video, and generally not working.
If this was a real problem then they would be fired after making those things verboten. The employer is paying a rate derived from the amount of work actually done in practice by the typical employee, not the theoretical maximum amount of work a typical employee could perform.
Employees that recognize that they do more work than is typical should ask for a raise and if they do not get it should then respond in a rational manner by either reducing output or looking for a new job.
Not paying overtime by not requiring overtime work is exactly the purpose of this legislation I believe. What is wrong with that?
You mean besides the fact that its a coercion of freedom?
Maybe I want to market myself as available for some minor duties (such as responding to urgent emails) after hours, as needed, for a higher base wage? Well now if I lived in Brazil I cannot do that.
Furthermore, wont the effect be to exert a downward pressure on the base pays of those this law happens to target?
Many its GUI controls are using very bad confusing abstractions. For example, audio, networking, etc.
They are necessary abstractions because these subsystem themselves are abstractions.
If you want confusing audio subsystems, look at the mess in Linux right now.. most Linux installs literally have multiple audio subsystems that can output to each other in very confusing master/slave relationships.
I don't think so. Well, maybe capability, but *preload* I think requires it.
Thinking and guessing....
OEM volume discounts might require WHQL, but I'd by guessing and I dont like arguing based upon speculation. It is not speculation that OEMs can install any software that they have purchased on the behalf of their client.
Tablet makers offer ARM tablets without WHQL Certification preloaded with Linux or Android.
They dont even have to be preloaded with either. They can be preloaded with Windows 8.. just not WHQL certified.
WHQL certification means something only when upgrading to a new version of Windows is a selling point... for instance when Vista was just around the corner many manufacturers started selling computers certified to run Vista, even though it wasnt available yet...
..there was a big stink about that too, because Intel's shitty integrated video got certified but was incapable of the glitzy shit Vista promoted (we all remember that, right?)
We are talking about if the manufacturer can legally put a sticker on the box, not their capability to install Windows 8.
Bull fucking shit. Or are they going to be moved to the states
Spoken like someone that doesnt even bother to know what they are talking about.
For example, most of the country has state minimum wages that are equal to or higher than federal minimum wages. Only 4 states (Minnesota, Wyoming, Arkansas, and Georgia) have minimum wage laws that are below the federal level, while 18 have minimum wages higher than the federal level.
Waiving your hands declaring things to be true doesnt make them so. The pathetic part is that you are already capable of knowing the facts since you are on the internet and can fucking look things up instead of ignorantly towing the party line of the never-ending lies of the corrupt politicians that have already stolen your future.
In both of these cases, we can predict with very good accuracy both the HDI score as well as health care spending per person for any country in the world, just by knowing its GDP/Capita. America isnt out of line.. your claims are.
Then you go on about education and other non-privatized things.. um, hello? Are you suggesting that because our public education system has failed, that we should try something else... like a private education system? Exactly what are you saying?
"We are going to reduce the opposition to this bill by pretending that later on we will have an honest appraisal before implementing 100% of everything thats in the current bill"
Is it practical to hand count millions of pieces of paper when computers exist to sum everything ? No. It's also quite error prone.
Errors arent a meaningful issue. If counts are within a margin of error, then recounting will be demanded. The issue is always tampering.. where the count doesnt resemble any statistical reality.
It's not true that *most* people can program. You maybe wanted to say that *most* people (related to programming) can write code which can be compiled, but only the real programmers can write and maintain useful code.
In the world of app stores, I believe that writing maintainable code is becoming less and less important. There will never be another version of nearly every app in the store, because its just as easy for a user to pick up someone elses works-just-like-it as it is to pick up version 2.0 of yours. No loyalty is the new markets.
His observation was that the government runs failed school systems in the inner cities, and then makes sure that many of these unskilled workers cannot pick up skills on the job by mandating a minimum wage above their initial skill level.
Every time the government intervenes, people get fucked.
Gov't can easily cut spending and raise revenue should they choose, or be forced to do so.
Something that is lost on people, and I think might be lost on you, is that money is a resource. Taking resources away from the economy can only have a detrimental effect upon it, even if that resource is capital. These detrimental effects are felt by the people, not the corporations.
We could also argue about where we are on the Laffer curve, that maybe increasing revenue by much isnt even possible (queue the folks that will claim there isnt a Laffer curve.. not knowing that the argument is not if it exists or not, but only where the federal government sits upon it,) but the real problem is that the federal government was running deficits even in the best of times, yet when things went south the federal response was to greatly increase spending. Its crazy.
I believe he means libertarian policies would lead to a new age of robber-barons.
The age of "robber barons" was one of the most beneficial ever for the American middle class. We have another name for that age.. the Industrial Revolution.
In America the mass media paints it quite a bit differently than you are suggesting they do. Luckily a lot of people ignore it and base their work ethic on what made America great, not what the media is telling them it should be.
LOL, so all you know about NDAs you learned from there?
Nope, but its all you know.
NDA on patents in question was MS's idea
I guess you have a citation for the NDA in question, then. The actual text, where it specifically mentions patents as being covered?
The rest of the industry specifically insists that every aspect of negotiations, including the fact that negotiations are even happening, be treated as confidential. If Microsoft only insisted that the NDA covering patents, then they sound like the good guys.
I gleefully wait for your citation, and I think that you can provide it since you are a Barnes and Noble shill.
you still miss the part where it doesn't make sense for licensor to force NDA on licensee about which patents were in the deal.
..proving you dont know what an NDA is. Nobody in the history of the world has ever drafted such an NDA.
Go check B&N's negotiations story
I did.
"You're infringing on our patents, and we'll tell you which patents are those after you sign this NDA"
Wrong. This is how it goes:
"We would like to enter into negotiations over patents we believe that you are infringing. Here is the industry standard licensing negotiations contract that everyone in the industry, on both sides, insists on entering into before discussing such matters."
You mean MS was just going out on a limb to help B&N and others with this, so those poor darlings won't accidentally tell competition about their future product lines and ruin themselves?
Nobody said anything of the sort. your problem is that you dont know what is standard in the indsutry. Nobody enters into negotiations of any kind without an NDA.
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Worker safety laws are a coercion of freedom.
They certainly are, but society has decided that it has a moral authority to enact some worker safety laws because members of the society are sometimes incapable of assessing risk in various working scenarios
Now, explain what worker safety laws have to do with wage legislation. What moral authority does society have in determining the manner of my compensation?
Maybe I want a per-email payment. Piece Work isnt immoral, is it? Brazil just outlawed considering the after-hours fielding of email as piece work, demanding that it be considered only "overtime."
Maybe I feel the after-hours access to me is worth more than my base rate multiplied by some time and scale factor. This is dictating the manner of that compensation, thereby reducing both my freedom and my employers.
It's the peons who use the fuck out of their smartphones, as well as the company's bandwidth streaming music and video, and generally not working.
If this was a real problem then they would be fired after making those things verboten. The employer is paying a rate derived from the amount of work actually done in practice by the typical employee, not the theoretical maximum amount of work a typical employee could perform.
Employees that recognize that they do more work than is typical should ask for a raise and if they do not get it should then respond in a rational manner by either reducing output or looking for a new job.
Not paying overtime by not requiring overtime work is exactly the purpose of this legislation I believe. What is wrong with that?
You mean besides the fact that its a coercion of freedom?
Maybe I want to market myself as available for some minor duties (such as responding to urgent emails) after hours, as needed, for a higher base wage? Well now if I lived in Brazil I cannot do that.
Furthermore, wont the effect be to exert a downward pressure on the base pays of those this law happens to target?
Many its GUI controls are using very bad confusing abstractions. For example, audio, networking, etc.
They are necessary abstractions because these subsystem themselves are abstractions.
If you want confusing audio subsystems, look at the mess in Linux right now.. most Linux installs literally have multiple audio subsystems that can output to each other in very confusing master/slave relationships.
I don't think so. Well, maybe capability, but *preload* I think requires it.
Thinking and guessing....
OEM volume discounts might require WHQL, but I'd by guessing and I dont like arguing based upon speculation. It is not speculation that OEMs can install any software that they have purchased on the behalf of their client.
Tablet makers offer ARM tablets without WHQL Certification preloaded with Linux or Android.
They dont even have to be preloaded with either. They can be preloaded with Windows 8 .. just not WHQL certified.
..there was a big stink about that too, because Intel's shitty integrated video got certified but was incapable of the glitzy shit Vista promoted (we all remember that, right?)
WHQL certification means something only when upgrading to a new version of Windows is a selling point... for instance when Vista was just around the corner many manufacturers started selling computers certified to run Vista, even though it wasnt available yet...
We are talking about if the manufacturer can legally put a sticker on the box, not their capability to install Windows 8.
Bull fucking shit. Or are they going to be moved to the states
Spoken like someone that doesnt even bother to know what they are talking about.
For example, most of the country has state minimum wages that are equal to or higher than federal minimum wages. Only 4 states (Minnesota, Wyoming, Arkansas, and Georgia) have minimum wage laws that are below the federal level, while 18 have minimum wages higher than the federal level.
Waiving your hands declaring things to be true doesnt make them so. The pathetic part is that you are already capable of knowing the facts since you are on the internet and can fucking look things up instead of ignorantly towing the party line of the never-ending lies of the corrupt politicians that have already stolen your future.
How about money getting invested into infrastructure and education instead of sitting in a bank somewhere
Who are you claiming is hoarding capital? Be specific here. Its as if you think there are folks with billion dollar savings accounts.
or going to buy works of art
So is hoarding evil, or is spending evil?
, or spent on high end luxury items with very little economic long term benefit for society at large?
Surely those people that make luxury items dont need to earn a living, and they never spend that money...
There are actually plenty of better ways to use excess capital in our society.
What excess capital?
So you went from a meaningless metric like 40% of median income when comparing nations, to another nation-specific metric...
..and your link is to an opinion piece, whose citation is a broken link.
...
...and you mentioned health care...
Is it really this hard to show that America is bad?
Then you go on about being in "the bottom 10% among western nations", which can be translated as "doing very well"
GDP/Capita vs Human Development Index. The graph shows that America is not out of line at all, contrary to your citeless claims.
GDP/Capita vs Health Spending/Capita. America again is right on the line along with everyone else.
In both of these cases, we can predict with very good accuracy both the HDI score as well as health care spending per person for any country in the world, just by knowing its GDP/Capita. America isnt out of line.. your claims are.
Then you go on about education and other non-privatized things.. um, hello? Are you suggesting that because our public education system has failed, that we should try something else... like a private education system? Exactly what are you saying?
Sure, because 40% of one countries median income is exactly like 40% of another countries.
Come back when you have comparable values, such as purchasing power.
The translation is:
"We are going to reduce the opposition to this bill by pretending that later on we will have an honest appraisal before implementing 100% of everything thats in the current bill"
Is it practical to hand count millions of pieces of paper when computers exist to sum everything ? No. It's also quite error prone.
Errors arent a meaningful issue. If counts are within a margin of error, then recounting will be demanded. The issue is always tampering.. where the count doesnt resemble any statistical reality.
Any statistical evidence?
You mean evidence like all the programmers that existed before colleges taught any form of compsci?
It's not true that *most* people can program. You maybe wanted to say that *most* people (related to programming) can write code which can be compiled, but only the real programmers can write and maintain useful code.
In the world of app stores, I believe that writing maintainable code is becoming less and less important. There will never be another version of nearly every app in the store, because its just as easy for a user to pick up someone elses works-just-like-it as it is to pick up version 2.0 of yours. No loyalty is the new markets.
Dont forget to comment the fields in data structures, telling both what and why.
Hello Milton Friedman!
His observation was that the government runs failed school systems in the inner cities, and then makes sure that many of these unskilled workers cannot pick up skills on the job by mandating a minimum wage above their initial skill level.
Every time the government intervenes, people get fucked.
What am I doing wrong?
You arent living up to slashdot poster fiction.
Gov't can easily cut spending and raise revenue should they choose, or be forced to do so.
Something that is lost on people, and I think might be lost on you, is that money is a resource. Taking resources away from the economy can only have a detrimental effect upon it, even if that resource is capital. These detrimental effects are felt by the people, not the corporations.
We could also argue about where we are on the Laffer curve, that maybe increasing revenue by much isnt even possible (queue the folks that will claim there isnt a Laffer curve.. not knowing that the argument is not if it exists or not, but only where the federal government sits upon it,) but the real problem is that the federal government was running deficits even in the best of times, yet when things went south the federal response was to greatly increase spending. Its crazy.
He would see them moved to the States, which already have employee protection laws.
I believe he means libertarian policies would lead to a new age of robber-barons.
The age of "robber barons" was one of the most beneficial ever for the American middle class. We have another name for that age.. the Industrial Revolution.
They didn't do it before the Bush cuts devastated the economy
Tax cuts devastated... the economy?
Perhaps you are unaware of this, but the federal governments budget is not the economy.
Note to self: Geekoid says thing when even he knows he doesnt know what he is talking about (how could he have not?)
In America the mass media paints it quite a bit differently than you are suggesting they do. Luckily a lot of people ignore it and base their work ethic on what made America great, not what the media is telling them it should be.
LOL, so all you know about NDAs you learned from there?
Nope, but its all you know.
NDA on patents in question was MS's idea
I guess you have a citation for the NDA in question, then. The actual text, where it specifically mentions patents as being covered?
The rest of the industry specifically insists that every aspect of negotiations, including the fact that negotiations are even happening, be treated as confidential. If Microsoft only insisted that the NDA covering patents, then they sound like the good guys.
I gleefully wait for your citation, and I think that you can provide it since you are a Barnes and Noble shill.
What. I know what NDA is
OK, lets see...
you still miss the part where it doesn't make sense for licensor to force NDA on licensee about which patents were in the deal.
Go check B&N's negotiations story
I did.
"You're infringing on our patents, and we'll tell you which patents are those after you sign this NDA"
Wrong. This is how it goes:
"We would like to enter into negotiations over patents we believe that you are infringing. Here is the industry standard licensing negotiations contract that everyone in the industry, on both sides, insists on entering into before discussing such matters."
You mean MS was just going out on a limb to help B&N and others with this, so those poor darlings won't accidentally tell competition about their future product lines and ruin themselves?
Nobody said anything of the sort. your problem is that you dont know what is standard in the indsutry. Nobody enters into negotiations of any kind without an NDA.
Are you a Barnes and Noble shill?