I dunno if they broke even, but they did better than 'nothing'. They got nearly a billion from Microsoft in the anti-trust settlement and the Netscape.com web page/portal has been a high traffic site all this time.
When they purchased Netscape, they thought it would work well. Unfortunately what they purchased was basically the most unstable version to ever exist. Netscape was really horrible by that point due to the complete rewrite.
In addition to the money they won from Microsoft, they also won the rights to distribute Internet Explorer for like 8 years or whatever.
The decision to acquire Netscape was a bad one, but all said and told, they handled the aftermath of that bad decision rather well.
AOL's main problem today is the brand. While some people like the brand, most really hate it. Its hard to recover a brand that is hated by most people. Even if they offered some good product or service, most people wont even try it to find out.
That is interesting. Of course, one could say that now about any major news outlet. Fox news (cough) can basically say what they want to (and they do) regardless of actual facts. They can cover the stories they choose and exclude others at will. Is that not censorship?
You have to look at intent too. Many feel that Fox News is trying to promote a conservative viewpoint and to subjugate a liberal viewpoint.
However, the stock holders sure as hell love what they are doing. I dont see any reason to believe that Fox isnt just following the most lucrative strategy they can, and that can hardly be called censorship. MSNBC and CNN are competing over the same set of eyes while Fox has its end of the market all to itself. CNN and MSNBC would each gladly trade places with Fox.
I think by the same token, Apples stock holders certainly aren't doing any major complaining about their business strategy.
I havent used an Apple machine of any kind since the AppleIIgs.
If you are writing 2TB/day to a 64GB drive then you already expect to replace the thing every few years, even if it was a platter, at least in the median case.
If you are on the extreme end, then platter failures are quite common.
Because he told Microsoft privately about it, and Microsoft refused to even discuss when they'd be fixing it.
According to TFA, Microsoft told him on 6/7 that by the end of the week they would have a release schedule worked out.
So this guy then releases the exploit on 6/9, 2 days later, only half way through the week.
I think that Ormandy is living a myopic life. Two days for him is like an eternity, so he holds everyone else to his warped view of time. The release of the exploit wont effect his systems, so he thinks that nobody else will be harmed by his actions. His system doesnt require the help center protocol to be functioning, so nobodies system must require it to be running.
During the last article on this on slashdot, many people decried that Ormandy was acting alone, that Google therefore wasn't responsible for his actions here. But in this round of shlashdot comments you see many people decry that Google's reporting procedures trump Microsofts.
I think its bizarre that people will twist their logic up so much just to support their preconceived notions. Very few have taken the stance that Microsoft puts out shitty software AND Ormandy is a little shit that deserves a public stoning. You clearly think that he doesn't, and you are wrong.
Bystanders are going to suffer this month only because both "Microsoft puts out shitty software", and "Ormandy was irresponsible and helped every malware author" is true.
It seems to me that if they can do reliable head tracking (which seems to be a requirement), then it also enables this technique which I find much more impressive than simple tweaking of focal distance.
I've have looked at the source code because you sounded so convinced that I was wrong.
It only proxies for multicast DNS queries.
So yeah, it doesnt solve the problem. Now you've proven that you take peoples word for it instead of learning shit yourself, even when there are competing theories on the table. You just accept the crap that supports your pet favorite company.
And just so its clear as fucking day for you, UDP-broadcast-over-wireless is not the Internet and cannot be used for, umm, anything the Microsoft soluton solves. Not a single thing.
Now we get to see articles about a new wave of Denial Of Service exploits:
Method #1 - The Lens Scratch - No need for a special Key! You can use your own!
Method #2 - The Face Punch - Requires shockingly little computational resources!
This means that it's the router that traps a request for your computer, and send a WOL first.
So then, it doesnt solve the problem?
Is that router going to wake the machine for pings? Really? Thats gonna save energy... not. Sure, block all pings then? Yeah.. then you can't ping the machine...
You, sir, are exhibiting the syndrome precisely. You are imagining that the Apple "solution" solves the problem, but it doesnt even come close.
The apple "solution" just ignores the problem, essentially its Wake On Lan. Big Fucking Deal. Apple has a wireless Wake On Demand. Nobody Fucking Cares because It Doesnt Solve The Problem.
So, basically it's a wake on lan, but that which works everytime some moron is doing a portscan or ssh-breakin attempt on your system? Why would such a system even have a off mode?
..so basically, no its not like wake on demand.
"SleepNotifier alerts SleepServer just before the client goes to sleep, and SleepServer ensures that all incoming traffic meant for the client comes to the proxy instead," Microsoft writes in another article titled "Trying to cure PC insomnia." "The proxy server's role is to monitor traffic and respond accordingly. For some requests, it responds on behalf of the client so the client can continue sleeping, and others it ignores. Some traffic, such as a user access request, causes the SleepServer proxy to awaken the client and present the user with apparently seamless remote access."
So basically we have a system that uses Wake On Lan to wake the remote machine automatically for user requests, but also avoids waking it for stupid shit like pings.
This is, in effect, what other researchers are trying to solve in a decent manner. Wake On Lan requires the waker to know a thing or two about the sleeping system (for example, that its sleeping) and simple frontend devices that have solved this in the past wake the system for everything and are also permanent proxies (proxying even when the system ISNT sleeping, for example)
Any feature even remotely similar, but found on Apple products, means that Macs have been doing it 'for some time now' even if what the Mac is doing is just the crap built into the bios of every motherboard made for the last decade, and doesnt solve any of the real problems that this new solution is solving.
hey thats great.. Its as simple as modding every single remote access application that currently exists and will ever exist.. such as firefox.. thats so simple... you are brilliant.
Only if you were at the exact center of mass. If you were a bit outside that then you would be attracted to the nearest concentration of matter.
Wrong!
All the farther-away mass exactly cancels that nearest-concentration of matter when inside a hollow object, in terms of gravitations attractions. This is so because there is so much more of the further-away stuff.
That center-of-mass assumption (point-source of force simplification) you are using doesnt work from inside the hollow sphere.
Nobody said anything about testing it on millions of setups. You are one of the following: (a) so fucking stupid that you cant understand simple things (b) so naive about what testing entails that you can't make rational judgments about what people mean, or (c) being intentionally obtuse because you just got caught with your pants down talking about shit you dont understand
I'm going with (c), because everything else you have said also indicates that you dont know what you are talking about. You dont have any idea what goes on in a real testing cycle at a real company serving real mission critical clients.
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My favorite CA is WireWorld. The designs in the CA look and behave like circuit boards. People have designed some very complex "computers" in it.
WireWorld on Wikipedia
This flash-based wireworld app is listing prime numbers.
Don't replace instantly, when you car, incadescent bulb, bleach is completely used up, you buy something like the prius
He would still have a lower carbon footprint if he just purchased an old, used, car.
Use your brain, greenboy.
I dunno if they broke even, but they did better than 'nothing'. They got nearly a billion from Microsoft in the anti-trust settlement and the Netscape.com web page/portal has been a high traffic site all this time.
When they purchased Netscape, they thought it would work well. Unfortunately what they purchased was basically the most unstable version to ever exist. Netscape was really horrible by that point due to the complete rewrite.
In addition to the money they won from Microsoft, they also won the rights to distribute Internet Explorer for like 8 years or whatever.
The decision to acquire Netscape was a bad one, but all said and told, they handled the aftermath of that bad decision rather well.
AOL's main problem today is the brand. While some people like the brand, most really hate it. Its hard to recover a brand that is hated by most people. Even if they offered some good product or service, most people wont even try it to find out.
And then sit in an asteroid belt for 5 days getting the cash for a new interceptor.
besides the evil insurance companies that actually have low profit margins?
There, improved that for you.
That is interesting. Of course, one could say that now about any major news outlet. Fox news (cough) can basically say what they want to (and they do) regardless of actual facts. They can cover the stories they choose and exclude others at will. Is that not censorship?
You have to look at intent too. Many feel that Fox News is trying to promote a conservative viewpoint and to subjugate a liberal viewpoint.
However, the stock holders sure as hell love what they are doing. I dont see any reason to believe that Fox isnt just following the most lucrative strategy they can, and that can hardly be called censorship. MSNBC and CNN are competing over the same set of eyes while Fox has its end of the market all to itself. CNN and MSNBC would each gladly trade places with Fox.
I think by the same token, Apples stock holders certainly aren't doing any major complaining about their business strategy.
I havent used an Apple machine of any kind since the AppleIIgs.
If you are writing 2TB/day to a 64GB drive then you already expect to replace the thing every few years, even if it was a platter, at least in the median case.
If you are on the extreme end, then platter failures are quite common.
Because he told Microsoft privately about it, and Microsoft refused to even discuss when they'd be fixing it.
According to TFA, Microsoft told him on 6/7 that by the end of the week they would have a release schedule worked out.
So this guy then releases the exploit on 6/9, 2 days later, only half way through the week.
I think that Ormandy is living a myopic life. Two days for him is like an eternity, so he holds everyone else to his warped view of time. The release of the exploit wont effect his systems, so he thinks that nobody else will be harmed by his actions. His system doesnt require the help center protocol to be functioning, so nobodies system must require it to be running.
During the last article on this on slashdot, many people decried that Ormandy was acting alone, that Google therefore wasn't responsible for his actions here. But in this round of shlashdot comments you see many people decry that Google's reporting procedures trump Microsofts.
I think its bizarre that people will twist their logic up so much just to support their preconceived notions. Very few have taken the stance that Microsoft puts out shitty software AND Ormandy is a little shit that deserves a public stoning. You clearly think that he doesn't, and you are wrong.
Bystanders are going to suffer this month only because both "Microsoft puts out shitty software", and "Ormandy was irresponsible and helped every malware author" is true.
It seems to me that if they can do reliable head tracking (which seems to be a requirement), then it also enables this technique which I find much more impressive than simple tweaking of focal distance.
No.
Thats the point.
The end users wont have to do shit.
I've have looked at the source code because you sounded so convinced that I was wrong.
It only proxies for multicast DNS queries.
So yeah, it doesnt solve the problem. Now you've proven that you take peoples word for it instead of learning shit yourself, even when there are competing theories on the table. You just accept the crap that supports your pet favorite company.
And just so its clear as fucking day for you, UDP-broadcast-over-wireless is not the Internet and cannot be used for, umm, anything the Microsoft soluton solves. Not a single thing.
The "winner" of the primary is unemployed, is facing a felony charge, and made no campaign appearances! Does any of that sound suspicious?
When most of the other elections also went against incumbents, nope.
No one will change their pages to break reader mode, its to much work.
Thats some good shit that you are smoking.
The 512 core Atom server has been working at 100% load revoking meme rights since 1999. Analysts say that the job wont be finished until 2073.
Now we get to see articles about a new wave of Denial Of Service exploits:
Method #1 - The Lens Scratch - No need for a special Key! You can use your own!
Method #2 - The Face Punch - Requires shockingly little computational resources!
So this does satisfy the basic need.
It wakes the machine for everything, just like all the other existing solutions.
This means that it's the router that traps a request for your computer, and send a WOL first.
So then, it doesnt solve the problem?
Is that router going to wake the machine for pings? Really? Thats gonna save energy... not. Sure, block all pings then? Yeah.. then you can't ping the machine...
You, sir, are exhibiting the syndrome precisely. You are imagining that the Apple "solution" solves the problem, but it doesnt even come close.
The apple "solution" just ignores the problem, essentially its Wake On Lan. Big Fucking Deal. Apple has a wireless Wake On Demand. Nobody Fucking Cares because It Doesnt Solve The Problem.
Will a single one work for 20 boxes, and allow thousands of users to wake up your machines as needed?
So every user has to install a driver? Even Joe Plumber trying to access your invoice history web server?
You just dont seem to get it.
Thats great until you want users, who use the services hosted on the sleeping machine, to be able to use those services.
Yeah, its great that an admin can wake a machine. Big deal. Been doing that for years...
So, basically it's a wake on lan, but that which works everytime some moron is doing a portscan or ssh-breakin attempt on your system? Why would such a system even have a off mode?
"SleepNotifier alerts SleepServer just before the client goes to sleep, and SleepServer ensures that all incoming traffic meant for the client comes to the proxy instead," Microsoft writes in another article titled "Trying to cure PC insomnia." "The proxy server's role is to monitor traffic and respond accordingly. For some requests, it responds on behalf of the client so the client can continue sleeping, and others it ignores. Some traffic, such as a user access request, causes the SleepServer proxy to awaken the client and present the user with apparently seamless remote access."
So basically we have a system that uses Wake On Lan to wake the remote machine automatically for user requests, but also avoids waking it for stupid shit like pings.
This is, in effect, what other researchers are trying to solve in a decent manner. Wake On Lan requires the waker to know a thing or two about the sleeping system (for example, that its sleeping) and simple frontend devices that have solved this in the past wake the system for everything and are also permanent proxies (proxying even when the system ISNT sleeping, for example)
Syndrome identified:
Any feature even remotely similar, but found on Apple products, means that Macs have been doing it 'for some time now' even if what the Mac is doing is just the crap built into the bios of every motherboard made for the last decade, and doesnt solve any of the real problems that this new solution is solving.
hey thats great.. Its as simple as modding every single remote access application that currently exists and will ever exist.. such as firefox.. thats so simple... you are brilliant.
Only if you were at the exact center of mass. If you were a bit outside that then you would be attracted to the nearest concentration of matter.
Wrong!
All the farther-away mass exactly cancels that nearest-concentration of matter when inside a hollow object, in terms of gravitations attractions. This is so because there is so much more of the further-away stuff.
That center-of-mass assumption (point-source of force simplification) you are using doesnt work from inside the hollow sphere.
Nobody said anything about testing it on millions of setups. You are one of the following: (a) so fucking stupid that you cant understand simple things (b) so naive about what testing entails that you can't make rational judgments about what people mean, or (c) being intentionally obtuse because you just got caught with your pants down talking about shit you dont understand
I'm going with (c), because everything else you have said also indicates that you dont know what you are talking about. You dont have any idea what goes on in a real testing cycle at a real company serving real mission critical clients.