Er. Sorry. My retard roomate posted under my account on my computer.:/ Alas, I can't even play KOTOR, though we were considering buying a used Xbox just to play it. No KOTOR for Windows CE or OS X, my two main platforms, and I don't know of releases coming up.
That dork must've broken down and started to play at work. tsk tsk!
I have one very nasty error: whenever I go into an apartment (at least so far here on Taris), the game goes nuts. I have to quit the game and reload to remedy the issue. By "nuts" I mean that it gets choppy, like I'm trying to play it on a P100 or something with a Voodoo 1. *sigh*
But then again, I can't patch it. It's a pirated copy. DOH!
yarr, then that'd be the reason for me thinking it did.:)
the oberon system is pretty fun to play with, for those of you out there who like to play with new and funky languages, OSes and window systems. Like Squeak Smalltalk, it's a self-contained OS, with it's own widget set and windowing system that exists parallel to win32/x11/quartz, being blitted to one big window. A lot of fun to play with, although the stodgy Pascal-like language of Oberon itself is a bit too formal for me, and I prefer Squeak. But fun all the same.:) (they're on to Oberon 4 or 5?)
Squeak is indeed groundbreaking. That doesn't mean it's the best tool for every job, though. While it is in fact good for a lot of things, web crawling apps wouldn't be one of those that come to mind. I'd use perl most likely, and I'm an huge Squeak user and proponent.
I can't say whether or not Squeak was named for Disney, although Squeak was developed under Disney for some years, with the team on Disney's payroll. However, Squeak was born at Apple in 95-96, before any Disney involvement.
From what I've read, LambdaMoo's language isn't derived directly from Smalltalk, though it is derived in a way similar to how Java is, though not in the way that Self or Objective-C are.
LambdaMoo and similar systems are very cool, indeed. Something we bring up on the Squeak Smalltalk mailing list sometimes. In addition to the kind of stuff vanilla Smalltalk supports, in a MOO you've also (usually) got a multi-user system spread over multiple servers with full objectspersistance for free. badass.
are there any military sim games like this now, but available to regular civillian consumers?
after reading ender's game, starship troopers and a couple other military sci-fi books a while back, the idea of having a closer military sim started to appeal, but even on a higher level- we're talking about a whole army, a thousand people strong. and all of them humans, with a command chain like the regular military. perhaps with a sci-fi flavor and fun sci-fi toys- ansibles, armour suits or something like that, to aid in the game and possibly story.
i see two big virtual armies going at it. or navies, on sea or in space. you get the idea. you gain rank by doing well, etc etc. that would rule. i don't game much, esp on the PC- but are there games like this now or planned for the near future?
only someone who knew the matrix was a piece of shit would have made such a commend- but you sir are obviously too caught up in "Highschool Physics for Dummies" to get it. christ.
OK, I'll bite- what's wrong with the screaming? It's not like we didn't already know that Luke was a big, whiney puss and all. I certainly wouldn't expect him to hell a kilometer facing it with stoic strength...
Hey man, don't get me wrong- I didn't say the PERQ was a bad workstation, just a little weird. I've never had the pleasure of using one, but have read what is available. A neat little machine indeed.:)
I can see not thinking that LSongs doesn't look like iTunes- only if you've ever used iTunes in browse mode. That's the only mode I use it in, personally. Or, maybe putting the play buttons at the bottom of the window threw you off- perhaps they have similar hopes for the judge.
Hey Mr. Snail- I know something that does pay the bills and would allow us to drive a convertible for a while. Let's go rob a bank! We'll do it like they do in those fancy hacker movies, where we get off clean cuz we're young, smart and HOT! WHEE!
Indeed, Apple had the first widely accessible commercial computer with a WIMP interface driven by a mouse- the Lisa. The PERC Workstation (not Unix, something weirder) had a GUI and was available commercially around the same time, but was not very available- even to those with the buttload of funds required to buy one.
AFAIK, the first X11 came out aroudn 1985. A year or so after the Lisa, around the same time that MS Windows 1.0 came out. Motif was 1987 IIRC.
And Apple certainly didn't copy Unix, that is laughable. If anything, Apple copied Smalltalk, but as you point out, they bought the engineers behind it and did so more or less with Xerox's approval.
Cocaine and similar drugs are often quite nasty regardless, but with opiates like heroin and opium, most deaths are a direct result of the drug being illegal. E.g., a mismetered dose causing an OD. On the street, drug strength varies widely. If one could purchase heroin at Wallgreen's, you'd know what you were getting in dosage and strength.
The word "gay" is more encompassing than just referring to homosexual males. The term gay can and is often applied to homosexual females, or lesbians. On the other hand, "pillow biter" or "fag" is usually only applied to males and not females. I don't doubt that in some places, it's a faux paux to call a homosexual woman gay, though that isn't the case around here.
*At least one packed lunch?* How many did you bring?
I can't say I've ever brought a packed lunch into any movie. I've brought half a sandwitch, esp if it was one I didn't finish at the place we ate right before seeing the film... Or popcorn, pop and/or candy perhaps. But multiple packed lunches for a piddly 3 hours?
Not even my SL-C760 gets that battery life, and it has a battery that's twice as big.
That said, the SL-5500 might be OK if you could get bluetooth to work. Judging by what I hear in #zaurus on freenode, a lot of folks can't get it working. And these folks are Linux nerds, not PalmOS converts who expect the Zaurus to "just work" like a Palm or PocketPC would.
But there is no good way to get data into that iPod device. You could do a bunch of hardware hackage, sure- but that's is a lot of work. You'd probably be a lot better off with one of those PCMCIA HDs- the kind the iPod has- in a PDA, along with a huge battery extender. Either you are running your bluetooth off of the iPod's battery (thus killing the batt) or you have even more hardware hackage to do.
WinCE would be the easiest thing to do this in. I've done a lot of PDA programming, and I'd take WinCE any day, over PalmOS or Linux. There are a lot of options for programming, you've got a real OS, stable bluetooth [1], lots of libraries, etc. My interest area is largely in programming a PDA on a PDA, with no desktop as a part of the developer process, but that is just me. No need to spend a ton of time writing a big, ugly and finnicky C/C++ app- WinCE has a lot of good scripting languages available, including Ruby, Perl, Python, Dialect [2], Scheme, Lisp, BASIC, and many others.
[1] The Zaurus has some problems with the bt hardware available- maybe the new SL-6000 series would be good... but then again, just because the Zaurus comes with Bluetooth it doesn't mean it works, at least with Sharp at the helm of such a device. But there's a good chance it does.
[2] Dialect is my personal fave, a prototype-based OOPL. Kind of a cross between NewtonScript (object model) and Python (syntax) with really good support for dealing with the underlying WinCE or regular Windows OS.
Actually, if you were willing, I'd really appreciate that. Mostly the DS9 episodes. My email addy is right here- I'll find some way to "mod" you, perhaps giving you points down the line if you hook me up with those DS9 episodes. I'm serious, too.
Regarding your.sig - the person who put up that leaderssupportingkerry site should do a leaderssupportingbush one too- the Taliban would make a great listing for leaders supporting bush...
"Bush paid us a whopping $43 billion dollars to keep us in power!"
I think a big problem is that the people who aren't getting it here are confusing the concept of "moral rights" with some seperate concept of morally-derived rights. Moral rights, used in this way, is a singular thing- he's not just adding "moral" on to give his argument a push.
Just curious--why does most of the world get to use religious beliefs as a crutch, but atheists can't use their beliefs as a crutch?
Who said they couldn't go on using it as such? I say more power to them. But just like moralizing christians, the kind who want to intrude on my life, they should expect to get a mouthful back.
Like I said before, we all have crutches, or in a nicer way of words sources of strength. I simply prefer to have my crutches be somewhat more healthier things than cutting people down- especially if your problem is the same as theirs. Just seems kind of sleazy and immmature, though I don't doubt it'll go on until the end of time, no matter what I say.
Atheists who survive to adulthood learn to use more tact.
Some, but not all. I guess this is somewhat dependent on what "adulthood" is defined as; I've known plenty of folks into their 20s who retain this attitude. Getting older doesn't always mean maturity.
I wasn't railing against all atheists, just those with this kind of attitude. At this stage in my life- 23, in college, dealing with people of a similar age in meatlife and in the ether, I still encounter this attitude in people who call themselves "atheists." Most of the folks who had this attitude and lost it call themselves agnostics now, or simply just don't care any more. They may make fun of christians still, but don't need an anti-god as a crutch like they used to.
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Er. Sorry. My retard roomate posted under my account on my computer. :/ Alas, I can't even play KOTOR, though we were considering buying a used Xbox just to play it. No KOTOR for Windows CE or OS X, my two main platforms, and I don't know of releases coming up.
That dork must've broken down and started to play at work. tsk tsk!
I have one very nasty error: whenever I go into an apartment (at least so far here on Taris), the game goes nuts. I have to quit the game and reload to remedy the issue. By "nuts" I mean that it gets choppy, like I'm trying to play it on a P100 or something with a Voodoo 1. *sigh*
But then again, I can't patch it. It's a pirated copy. DOH!
yarr, then that'd be the reason for me thinking it did. :)
:) (they're on to Oberon 4 or 5?)
the oberon system is pretty fun to play with, for those of you out there who like to play with new and funky languages, OSes and window systems. Like Squeak Smalltalk, it's a self-contained OS, with it's own widget set and windowing system that exists parallel to win32/x11/quartz, being blitted to one big window. A lot of fun to play with, although the stodgy Pascal-like language of Oberon itself is a bit too formal for me, and I prefer Squeak. But fun all the same.
Squeak is indeed groundbreaking. That doesn't mean it's the best tool for every job, though. While it is in fact good for a lot of things, web crawling apps wouldn't be one of those that come to mind. I'd use perl most likely, and I'm an huge Squeak user and proponent.
I can't say whether or not Squeak was named for Disney, although Squeak was developed under Disney for some years, with the team on Disney's payroll. However, Squeak was born at Apple in 95-96, before any Disney involvement.
Same here, I assumed he copied off of c2.com or something.
From what I've read, LambdaMoo's language isn't derived directly from Smalltalk, though it is derived in a way similar to how Java is, though not in the way that Self or Objective-C are.
LambdaMoo and similar systems are very cool, indeed. Something we bring up on the Squeak Smalltalk mailing list sometimes. In addition to the kind of stuff vanilla Smalltalk supports, in a MOO you've also (usually) got a multi-user system spread over multiple servers with full objectspersistance for free. badass.
Jeeze man. Oberon supports inheritance and polymorphism. At least, I think it does, but it's been a while since I used it.
are there any military sim games like this now, but available to regular civillian consumers?
after reading ender's game, starship troopers and a couple other military sci-fi books a while back, the idea of having a closer military sim started to appeal, but even on a higher level- we're talking about a whole army, a thousand people strong. and all of them humans, with a command chain like the regular military. perhaps with a sci-fi flavor and fun sci-fi toys- ansibles, armour suits or something like that, to aid in the game and possibly story.
i see two big virtual armies going at it. or navies, on sea or in space. you get the idea. you gain rank by doing well, etc etc. that would rule. i don't game much, esp on the PC- but are there games like this now or planned for the near future?
wow, what a moron!
haha ha
only someone who knew the matrix was a piece of shit would have made such a commend- but you sir are obviously too caught up in "Highschool Physics for Dummies" to get it. christ.
OK, I'll bite- what's wrong with the screaming? It's not like we didn't already know that Luke was a big, whiney puss and all. I certainly wouldn't expect him to hell a kilometer facing it with stoic strength...
Hey man, don't get me wrong- I didn't say the PERQ was a bad workstation, just a little weird. I've never had the pleasure of using one, but have read what is available. A neat little machine indeed. :)
I can see not thinking that LSongs doesn't look like iTunes- only if you've ever used iTunes in browse mode. That's the only mode I use it in, personally. Or, maybe putting the play buttons at the bottom of the window threw you off- perhaps they have similar hopes for the judge.
Hey Mr. Snail- I know something that does pay the bills and would allow us to drive a convertible for a while. Let's go rob a bank! We'll do it like they do in those fancy hacker movies, where we get off clean cuz we're young, smart and HOT! WHEE!
Indeed, Apple had the first widely accessible commercial computer with a WIMP interface driven by a mouse- the Lisa. The PERC Workstation (not Unix, something weirder) had a GUI and was available commercially around the same time, but was not very available- even to those with the buttload of funds required to buy one.
AFAIK, the first X11 came out aroudn 1985. A year or so after the Lisa, around the same time that MS Windows 1.0 came out. Motif was 1987 IIRC.
And Apple certainly didn't copy Unix, that is laughable. If anything, Apple copied Smalltalk, but as you point out, they bought the engineers behind it and did so more or less with Xerox's approval.
Cocaine and similar drugs are often quite nasty regardless, but with opiates like heroin and opium, most deaths are a direct result of the drug being illegal. E.g., a mismetered dose causing an OD. On the street, drug strength varies widely. If one could purchase heroin at Wallgreen's, you'd know what you were getting in dosage and strength.
The word "gay" is more encompassing than just referring to homosexual males. The term gay can and is often applied to homosexual females, or lesbians. On the other hand, "pillow biter" or "fag" is usually only applied to males and not females. I don't doubt that in some places, it's a faux paux to call a homosexual woman gay, though that isn't the case around here.
*At least one packed lunch?* How many did you bring?
I can't say I've ever brought a packed lunch into any movie. I've brought half a sandwitch, esp if it was one I didn't finish at the place we ate right before seeing the film... Or popcorn, pop and/or candy perhaps. But multiple packed lunches for a piddly 3 hours?
Five hours on a SL-5500?
hahaha! good one!
Not even my SL-C760 gets that battery life, and it has a battery that's twice as big.
That said, the SL-5500 might be OK if you could get bluetooth to work. Judging by what I hear in #zaurus on freenode, a lot of folks can't get it working. And these folks are Linux nerds, not PalmOS converts who expect the Zaurus to "just work" like a Palm or PocketPC would.
But there is no good way to get data into that iPod device. You could do a bunch of hardware hackage, sure- but that's is a lot of work. You'd probably be a lot better off with one of those PCMCIA HDs- the kind the iPod has- in a PDA, along with a huge battery extender. Either you are running your bluetooth off of the iPod's battery (thus killing the batt) or you have even more hardware hackage to do.
WinCE would be the easiest thing to do this in. I've done a lot of PDA programming, and I'd take WinCE any day, over PalmOS or Linux. There are a lot of options for programming, you've got a real OS, stable bluetooth [1], lots of libraries, etc. My interest area is largely in programming a PDA on a PDA, with no desktop as a part of the developer process, but that is just me. No need to spend a ton of time writing a big, ugly and finnicky C/C++ app- WinCE has a lot of good scripting languages available, including Ruby, Perl, Python, Dialect [2], Scheme, Lisp, BASIC, and many others.
[1] The Zaurus has some problems with the bt hardware available- maybe the new SL-6000 series would be good... but then again, just because the Zaurus comes with Bluetooth it doesn't mean it works, at least with Sharp at the helm of such a device. But there's a good chance it does.
[2] Dialect is my personal fave, a prototype-based OOPL. Kind of a cross between NewtonScript (object model) and Python (syntax) with really good support for dealing with the underlying WinCE or regular Windows OS.
Actually, if you were willing, I'd really appreciate that. Mostly the DS9 episodes. My email addy is right here- I'll find some way to "mod" you, perhaps giving you points down the line if you hook me up with those DS9 episodes. I'm serious, too.
Because they don't match.
Not sure why they would- one was a CVS checkout and one was a tarball. There are going to be some differences.
Regarding your .sig - the person who put up that leaderssupportingkerry site should do a leaderssupportingbush one too- the Taliban would make a great listing for leaders supporting bush...
"Bush paid us a whopping $43 billion dollars to keep us in power!"
(see here.)
I think a big problem is that the people who aren't getting it here are confusing the concept of "moral rights" with some seperate concept of morally-derived rights. Moral rights, used in this way, is a singular thing- he's not just adding "moral" on to give his argument a push.
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Just curious--why does most of the world get to use religious beliefs as a crutch, but atheists can't use their beliefs as a crutch?
Who said they couldn't go on using it as such? I say more power to them. But just like moralizing christians, the kind who want to intrude on my life, they should expect to get a mouthful back.
Like I said before, we all have crutches, or in a nicer way of words sources of strength. I simply prefer to have my crutches be somewhat more healthier things than cutting people down- especially if your problem is the same as theirs. Just seems kind of sleazy and immmature, though I don't doubt it'll go on until the end of time, no matter what I say.
Atheists who survive to adulthood learn to use more tact.
Some, but not all. I guess this is somewhat dependent on what "adulthood" is defined as; I've known plenty of folks into their 20s who retain this attitude. Getting older doesn't always mean maturity.
I wasn't railing against all atheists, just those with this kind of attitude. At this stage in my life- 23, in college, dealing with people of a similar age in meatlife and in the ether, I still encounter this attitude in people who call themselves "atheists." Most of the folks who had this attitude and lost it call themselves agnostics now, or simply just don't care any more. They may make fun of christians still, but don't need an anti-god as a crutch like they used to.