And we get an article (slashvertisement) about... one... new... linux... product. That is overpriced. And doesn't mention it runs Linux. And which has software that is closed enough to make porting stuff to and from it difficult if not impossible. But hey, it's got firefox!
Fer christ's sake, I'm a linux fanboy, but if we were to give an article to every new product that had embedded windows in it... or even embedded linux in it, we wouldn't have room for the Dupes! This isn't interesting. not even mildly. It's an example of a doomed product that uses linux. With misleading editorializing: "More handheld devices" implies a crop of new linux handhelds (which this is a bit bigger then anyways), but we get... 1. That may or may not be linux compatible (probably can't sync with linux), and which requires WMV 9 to watch the preview of.
Replying to trolls is bad, I know, but I feel like somebody ought to point out that this is a complete hoax. For example, Werner Vogels, not NBA player Michael Curry, is the CTO of Amazon, and RMS was confused for Saddam Hussein, not Osama bin Laden. This type of FUD isn't constructive.
The commission of technology management doesn't even exist.
Just got a Treo 600 3 days ago. It seems to have everything you want: working phone and the pda essentials. It ain't as pretty as my old Axim, but it's a lot more efficient with the built in keyboard, got a crappy little camera which is good for taking pictures of stuff you need to rememember (I'm a reporter with a terrible memory), and it's got an EXCELLENT navigation system that basically makes the touchscreen pointless (trust me, that's a good thing). QWERTY takes about 4 seconds to get warmed up to, then you'll be typing away fast. Can strain you after a while, but great for short messages, notes, and even doc editing.
Last thing I'm working on is getting it synced with my Ubuntu box, which although difficult appears to be possible.
No, let's give good parents the tools they need. And I don't think it's paranoia to be worried about a convicted child rapist. If I had a daughter (or son, for that matter), I sure would like to know if any of my neighbors are sexual assailents. I would also like to make sure they don't drive school buses in my district, they don't work at day care facilities that my children go to, that they aren't youth ministers at my local church.
Yes we hate Big Brother: but these people have been deemed by the courts to be a high risk factor in the first place. If we disagree with how or why they were labeled that, lets change those laws and sentencing guidelines. But, if the court says they are a high risk factor I think it's great to have these risks publicized. 50 percent of sexual assailents repeat. Read the news buddy: every day, these people walk free despite repeated warning signs. Everyday, child rapists get jobs as school bus drivers, day care workers, or like happened in my case, repeat child-rapist youth ministers. My church was lucky, but knowing whether or not the person you're leaving your kids with has been deemed, not just a freed criminal, but a HIGH RISK individual, is important. Quite frankly, this is one of the best ways to make sure these people aren't working with kids, because background checks fuck up all the time.
While I agree that this is a very dangerous use of information with a host of ethical concerns, to play the devil's advocate:
I worked in juvenile court for a summer. Very, very rarely were sexually abusive parents, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc. ever ever given jail time. Instead, they'd *sometimes* lose custody. If you look at the people listed, they are mostly sexual abusers of children.
I guess the point is that this is already information that we, as a society (or rather D.C., as a society) has decided to make public. Allowing parents to know if sexual predators live in their neighborhood is probably a good thing. Nobody on here, despite what a previous poster wrote, is on here for "peeing in public." They are all rapists, attempted rapists, abusers, etc. The criminal justice system is incredibly lenient with these people, generally letting family members walk the street days after brutally raping their own children.
Well, to be honest, I've never tried Scribus. I can imagine, but I try not too. Yes, most integrated systems are nice (We use a whole quark system with copy flow and all that). However, having seen how far linux has come, and how many major newspaper sites use open (or have opened their own) content management software, it would surprise me if some would get together (or one of the chains would simply do it themself) and create or update their own open source layout, design, copy stuff. They can benefit as others put in bug requests, while from personal experience with quark, I know that our bug requests never, ever got fixed. I work for a small paper in ithaca, ny, and do some magazine stuff on the side. AIM me at shoelessmike84 if you want, I can't figure out how to personal message on/.
Publishing companies and newspapers switch over very very slowly... You've got 50 year old lead designers who'd rather you cut off their arm before making them learn new software. I'm working at a newspaper with none other then Quark Xpress, and having used both indesign and pagemaker... It's absolutely atrocious. I work bad hours as it is, but it consistently crashes once a week, invariably at 2:00 right before we should be heading out and the paper should be at the press. I'm pushing for a move to Scribus, though I doubt it's up to task yet, and I know GIMP is no where near photoshop (though I personally use it for everything, it's missing fundamental cmyk stuffs that make adobe a must-have... though I have to hand it to Adobe, for a near monopoly they make damn fine products)
I won't debate on whether or not people have a right to strike... I feel they do, but I also feel that IBM should have the right to fire the lot of them if they choose. Capitalism: love it or change it.
True, IBM has a corporate responsibility. But a few years back, in the 70's, they worked a little too close to that corporate responsiblity, and MS took advantage of the larger giant and IBM almost died. I know, my grandfather worked for them. They refused to fire anyone (almost literally), they spent millions on corporate country clubs, golf courses, etc. for use by any employee, they had gazillions of social "perks." It was a huge drain on the company though, and they had to cut perks to survive. They did, and have bounced back reinvention after reinvention. My grandfather kept his job long after it should have been obsolete. His biggest pride was on a patent on a punch card machine. The punch card machine never saw the light of day, it was replaced by computers. I'm glad my grandfather kept his job as long as he did, but if IBM kept on making punchcard machines because it was the nice thing to do, even more would have lost their jobs longterm.
Yes, because people always here about the "quiet" developer versions of software before they hear about the main, publicized versions, especially when two of those main versions are already out there. How is this different then closed-source nicknames given to software, such as Windows city naming convention? Oh geez, they named XP "Memphis." I'm not going to go and buy it because it reminds me of carjackings... No, no, no. People who hear about the devel name are the ones who check 50 different tech sites a day and know the background to them. These people will grin: "Ahh, grumpy groundhog, heh, heh." The "mass" of people who hear about Ubuntu will first hear: "Ubuntu" "Hedgehog" "Hoary Hedgehog" "Warthog" "Warty Warthog" And then, having gotten used to the silly but reassuring naming convention (And seriously, how can it be worse than Mandriva? Mandriva???) they'll see "Grumpy Groundhog." And your point about exaggeration: developer releases, if you have any experience with them, also have names like "Accounting's Whore of a Mother (AWM)." It creates a sense of community for the devels. These "negative names" change as the projects become bigger (compare Windows code names 10 years ago with the buzz-work "Paladiums" of today), but Ubuntu realizes its youth, "warts" and all. But Christ, if you know enough about Ubuntu to check out the name of the developer version, the name of it is not going to affect your platform decision. Now, for pete's sake, get off your anti-African high horse and accept the "humanity" of Ubuntu, silly naming conventions and all.
Ubuntu: Linux for human beings. i.e.: They have names that make immediate sense, and are approachable.
You can see a grandmother over tea saying, "Ooh, I just upgraded from Warty Warthog to Hoary Hedgehog. It's much nicer. Do you want to see some pictures of my grandkids? I just had Charles upload them."
They rhyme, so are easy to remember. They are animals, and thus easy to remember and less frightening then MegaMachinaL33nux. The entire idea of ubuntu is to make complex computers part of a regular human existence, to put some actual DESIGN into linux, rather then bells and whistles. Yeah, some people hate the default theme, but it is very approachable and very non-intimidating. Calling the devel version "Grumpy" also creates a sense of "Maybe I should avoid that one and use the Hedgehoggy one."
As so many people (to date, one) have noted on this thread, this is a very limited ruling that doesn't do jack. If you read TFA, companies from now on have to simply note: "This product is encrypted and requires... snarf snarf snarf... blah blah blah... etc.. to play."
People are always complaining about dupes, but really, they're just a chance to get paid twice for the same brilliant remarks!
WTF (Score:3, Insightful)
by Profane MuthaFucka (574406) on Sunday April 03, @09:49PM (#12130080)
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You mean a project to create a low-priced commodity failed to compete successfully against something that is already entrenched as a low-priced commodity? That's unpossible!
I wonder what this means for my own startup company. We're going to make a lot of money selling inexpensive versions of pencils. Since people all over the world spend almost nothing at all for pencils, and there's really not much opportunity to improve a pencil, I'm sure my company will be a great success.
At least you used to have to yell, "Follow that Cab." Now just know when and where they get on and you can follow them from home in your underwear, as they say... Err, that came out pretty creepy.
How soon we forget Eolas. Big companies going on sw-patenting sprees to protect themselves from other big companies with huge patent warchests: it's Mutually Assured Destruction with the lawyers on top if anyone ever sues. The big threat is really the small companies that have one employee, a legion of layers, and a dubious patent on "machine-readable language comprised of zeroes and ones."
And I'm not exactly sure what Africa has to do with all this, this coming from an African Studies/Swahili minor.
I hated the color scheme at first (I've been ubuntu loyal since day 3), but after switching to various other gnome themes, I always wind back to Human. And the naked people aren't the default, btw, just an option. One thing that confuses me is the "Desktop" selection at the top - Applications - Places - Desktop. It's a misnomer, because it has very little to do (oh ok, nothing) to do with the desktop. I'm guessing it'll be renamed "Administration" later on, but that's just a quibble. Hoary runs extremely stable for a bleading edge beta, and the updates come daily with a little reminder and easy to use (though a bit buggy) program that tells you what and how many programs will be updated. Let's just hope they get beagle working, and Ubuntu will be a heavy contender.
They don't even have a beagle port for Linux yet! Easy jabs aside, why are you porting software that is still in version 0.0.4 that most users can't get to work on their native system? Maybe working on cross-compatibility from the ground up is the idea, but Beagle could really use some full time programmers just getting it to work, period, and then maybe get Dashboard up and running for non-hackers.
Just going to be bashed for flame baiting, but whatever. I had the priviledge of looking at the admissions scores, GPAs, etc. for several Ivy League schools (not Harvard, but I bet it's similar there). The average accepted legacy, contrary to popular belief, had HIGHER SATS and GPAs. You think GW got into Yale because he was a Yale legacy? No, he would have gotten in anywhere, because his father's the damn president. LEGACY DOES NOT HELP. It's a myth that other special interests group use to perpetuate the need for their own affirmative action. I'm not bashing AA, I believe it is still valid. But the facts are, legacy status doesn't mean anything, unless your father also happens to have a couple million laying around, in which case, you're chances of getting in anywhere are much higher.
Disclosure: I'm a legacy student at Cornell. I'm the first person from my high school to go to Cornel in 20 years, despite three legacies with good gpas and SATs applying (and failing to get in) over the last 4 years.
It's OPEN SOURCE, damn it. Did you even bother to read where the links go to? Sourceforge and a University. It'll run off donations, grants and volunteers, not corporate deadlines. RTFA may or may not be a bit much, but RTFSummary and links shouldn't be...
Slashdot Mirror
Fer christ's sake, I'm a linux fanboy, but if we were to give an article to every new product that had embedded windows in it ... or even embedded linux in it, we wouldn't have room for the Dupes! This isn't interesting. not even mildly. It's an example of a doomed product that uses linux. With misleading editorializing: "More handheld devices" implies a crop of new linux handhelds (which this is a bit bigger then anyways), but we get ... 1. That may or may not be linux compatible (probably can't sync with linux), and which requires WMV 9 to watch the preview of.
Replying to trolls is bad, I know, but I feel like somebody ought to point out that this is a complete hoax. For example, Werner Vogels, not NBA player Michael Curry, is the CTO of Amazon, and RMS was confused for Saddam Hussein, not Osama bin Laden. This type of FUD isn't constructive.
The commission of technology management doesn't even exist.
Just got a Treo 600 3 days ago. It seems to have everything you want: working phone and the pda essentials. It ain't as pretty as my old Axim, but it's a lot more efficient with the built in keyboard, got a crappy little camera which is good for taking pictures of stuff you need to rememember (I'm a reporter with a terrible memory), and it's got an EXCELLENT navigation system that basically makes the touchscreen pointless (trust me, that's a good thing). QWERTY takes about 4 seconds to get warmed up to, then you'll be typing away fast. Can strain you after a while, but great for short messages, notes, and even doc editing.
Last thing I'm working on is getting it synced with my Ubuntu box, which although difficult appears to be possible.
I'd say it's very worth it.
The former is discourse; the latter slashdot
Yes we hate Big Brother: but these people have been deemed by the courts to be a high risk factor in the first place. If we disagree with how or why they were labeled that, lets change those laws and sentencing guidelines. But, if the court says they are a high risk factor I think it's great to have these risks publicized. 50 percent of sexual assailents repeat. Read the news buddy: every day, these people walk free despite repeated warning signs. Everyday, child rapists get jobs as school bus drivers, day care workers, or like happened in my case, repeat child-rapist youth ministers. My church was lucky, but knowing whether or not the person you're leaving your kids with has been deemed, not just a freed criminal, but a HIGH RISK individual, is important. Quite frankly, this is one of the best ways to make sure these people aren't working with kids, because background checks fuck up all the time.
I worked in juvenile court for a summer. Very, very rarely were sexually abusive parents, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc. ever ever given jail time. Instead, they'd *sometimes* lose custody. If you look at the people listed, they are mostly sexual abusers of children.
I guess the point is that this is already information that we, as a society (or rather D.C., as a society) has decided to make public. Allowing parents to know if sexual predators live in their neighborhood is probably a good thing. Nobody on here, despite what a previous poster wrote, is on here for "peeing in public." They are all rapists, attempted rapists, abusers, etc. The criminal justice system is incredibly lenient with these people, generally letting family members walk the street days after brutally raping their own children.
Seriously, C_Taco can't even remove all the trolls from the News Submissions!
Well, to be honest, I've never tried Scribus. I can imagine, but I try not too. Yes, most integrated systems are nice (We use a whole quark system with copy flow and all that). However, having seen how far linux has come, and how many major newspaper sites use open (or have opened their own) content management software, it would surprise me if some would get together (or one of the chains would simply do it themself) and create or update their own open source layout, design, copy stuff. They can benefit as others put in bug requests, while from personal experience with quark, I know that our bug requests never, ever got fixed. I work for a small paper in ithaca, ny, and do some magazine stuff on the side. AIM me at shoelessmike84 if you want, I can't figure out how to personal message on /.
Publishing companies and newspapers switch over very very slowly ... You've got 50 year old lead designers who'd rather you cut off their arm before making them learn new software. I'm working at a newspaper with none other then Quark Xpress, and having used both indesign and pagemaker ... It's absolutely atrocious. I work bad hours as it is, but it consistently crashes once a week, invariably at 2:00 right before we should be heading out and the paper should be at the press. I'm pushing for a move to Scribus, though I doubt it's up to task yet, and I know GIMP is no where near photoshop (though I personally use it for everything, it's missing fundamental cmyk stuffs that make adobe a must-have ... though I have to hand it to Adobe, for a near monopoly they make damn fine products)
http://mirrordot.org/stories/a859968e8a446de3b6334 ac86a888d47/index.html
Just check mirrordot.org next time. They automatically do it.
I won't debate on whether or not people have a right to strike ... I feel they do, but I also feel that IBM should have the right to fire the lot of them if they choose. Capitalism: love it or change it.
True, IBM has a corporate responsibility. But a few years back, in the 70's, they worked a little too close to that corporate responsiblity, and MS took advantage of the larger giant and IBM almost died. I know, my grandfather worked for them. They refused to fire anyone (almost literally), they spent millions on corporate country clubs, golf courses, etc. for use by any employee, they had gazillions of social "perks." It was a huge drain on the company though, and they had to cut perks to survive. They did, and have bounced back reinvention after reinvention. My grandfather kept his job long after it should have been obsolete. His biggest pride was on a patent on a punch card machine. The punch card machine never saw the light of day, it was replaced by computers. I'm glad my grandfather kept his job as long as he did, but if IBM kept on making punchcard machines because it was the nice thing to do, even more would have lost their jobs longterm.
Yes, because people always here about the "quiet" developer versions of software before they hear about the main, publicized versions, especially when two of those main versions are already out there.
How is this different then closed-source nicknames given to software, such as Windows city naming convention?
Oh geez, they named XP "Memphis." I'm not going to go and buy it because it reminds me of carjackings...
No, no, no. People who hear about the devel name are the ones who check 50 different tech sites a day and know the background to them. These people will grin: "Ahh, grumpy groundhog, heh, heh."
The "mass" of people who hear about Ubuntu will first hear:
"Ubuntu"
"Hedgehog"
"Hoary Hedgehog"
"Warthog"
"Warty Warthog"
And then, having gotten used to the silly but reassuring naming convention (And seriously, how can it be worse than Mandriva? Mandriva???) they'll see "Grumpy Groundhog."
And your point about exaggeration: developer releases, if you have any experience with them, also have names like "Accounting's Whore of a Mother (AWM)." It creates a sense of community for the devels. These "negative names" change as the projects become bigger (compare Windows code names 10 years ago with the buzz-work "Paladiums" of today), but Ubuntu realizes its youth, "warts" and all. But Christ, if you know enough about Ubuntu to check out the name of the developer version, the name of it is not going to affect your platform decision. Now, for pete's sake, get off your anti-African high horse and accept the "humanity" of Ubuntu, silly naming conventions and all.
They chose a bad name on purpose ... they ARE trying to disuade new users from using the DEVELOPER version. So you put words like "Grumpy" in there.
The target audience, coders who know a lot about linux, already knows about Ubuntu and isn't going to drop it because of the name.
Ubuntu: Linux for human beings.
i.e.: They have names that make immediate sense, and are approachable.
You can see a grandmother over tea saying, "Ooh, I just upgraded from Warty Warthog to Hoary Hedgehog. It's much nicer. Do you want to see some pictures of my grandkids? I just had Charles upload them."
They rhyme, so are easy to remember. They are animals, and thus easy to remember and less frightening then MegaMachinaL33nux. The entire idea of ubuntu is to make complex computers part of a regular human existence, to put some actual DESIGN into linux, rather then bells and whistles. Yeah, some people hate the default theme, but it is very approachable and very non-intimidating. Calling the devel version "Grumpy" also creates a sense of "Maybe I should avoid that one and use the Hedgehoggy one."
Simple, intuitive, Ubuntu.
As so many people (to date, one) have noted on this thread, this is a very limited ruling that doesn't do jack. If you read TFA, companies from now on have to simply note: "This product is encrypted and requires ... snarf snarf snarf ... blah blah blah ... etc .. to play."
At least you used to have to yell, "Follow that Cab." Now just know when and where they get on and you can follow them from home in your underwear, as they say ... Err, that came out pretty creepy.
And it's working with Firefox on my ubuntu box why?
How soon we forget Eolas. Big companies going on sw-patenting sprees to protect themselves from other big companies with huge patent warchests: it's Mutually Assured Destruction with the lawyers on top if anyone ever sues.
The big threat is really the small companies that have one employee, a legion of layers, and a dubious patent on "machine-readable language comprised of zeroes and ones."
And I'm not exactly sure what Africa has to do with all this, this coming from an African Studies/Swahili minor.
as it still seems is still at least partially alive, and that's the one everyone REALLY cared about anyways ...
I hated the color scheme at first (I've been ubuntu loyal since day 3), but after switching to various other gnome themes, I always wind back to Human. And the naked people aren't the default, btw, just an option.
One thing that confuses me is the "Desktop" selection at the top - Applications - Places - Desktop.
It's a misnomer, because it has very little to do (oh ok, nothing) to do with the desktop. I'm guessing it'll be renamed "Administration" later on, but that's just a quibble.
Hoary runs extremely stable for a bleading edge beta, and the updates come daily with a little reminder and easy to use (though a bit buggy) program that tells you what and how many programs will be updated. Let's just hope they get beagle working, and Ubuntu will be a heavy contender.
They don't even have a beagle port for Linux yet! Easy jabs aside, why are you porting software that is still in version 0.0.4 that most users can't get to work on their native system? Maybe working on cross-compatibility from the ground up is the idea, but Beagle could really use some full time programmers just getting it to work, period, and then maybe get Dashboard up and running for non-hackers.
Just going to be bashed for flame baiting, but whatever.
I had the priviledge of looking at the admissions scores, GPAs, etc. for several Ivy League schools (not Harvard, but I bet it's similar there). The average accepted legacy, contrary to popular belief, had HIGHER SATS and GPAs. You think GW got into Yale because he was a Yale legacy? No, he would have gotten in anywhere, because his father's the damn president. LEGACY DOES NOT HELP. It's a myth that other special interests group use to perpetuate the need for their own affirmative action. I'm not bashing AA, I believe it is still valid. But the facts are, legacy status doesn't mean anything, unless your father also happens to have a couple million laying around, in which case, you're chances of getting in anywhere are much higher.
Disclosure: I'm a legacy student at Cornell. I'm the first person from my high school to go to Cornel in 20 years, despite three legacies with good gpas and SATs applying (and failing to get in) over the last 4 years.
Check it:: www.corante.com/getreal/archives/bittorrent_exeem_ metatorrent_podcasting_what_so_what.php+&hl=en&cli ent=firefox-a
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:ef-r7S3esgUJ
And, fyi, to find a mirror, just type the damn url into google and go to googlecache. Yeah, I know, I'm l33t, thank me later.
It's OPEN SOURCE, damn it. Did you even bother to read where the links go to? Sourceforge and a University. It'll run off donations, grants and volunteers, not corporate deadlines. RTFA may or may not be a bit much, but RTFSummary and links shouldn't be...