Maybe you should just donate to the hospitals, etc., and leave people to their own devices, not force them into YOUR vision of how things should work? Or is it asking too much - not to start dividing other people's money? It's other people's money, not yours, that you want to divide, don't I understand you right? Because if you were talking about your money, you'd be just donating yourself and not talking about using gov't violence to steal from others.
Housing crisis given by 'small government' and you are suggesting to somebody else they should 'grow fucking up'?
You are the 'fuck up', if that is what you believe.
The housing crisis was created by the government, the Great Depression and the 70s recession were created by the government. The 1921 depression and the inflation of the dot com bubble were created by the government.
USA USED to have small government when USA was productive, yes, but USA government is what creates all these issues and you are telling somebody else to 'fucking grow up'. That's hight of either hypocrisy or stupidity and ignorance (or all of the above).
Without the Federal reserve, the monetisation of Treasury debt, insane business regulations and taxes there wouldn't have been the current economic collapse, which is CREATED by the government.
So did he use all of this gov't subsidised (with stolen money) infrastructure so much more than you, that he has to pay half a billion dollars in exit taxes? He is paying what, 500 million in exit taxes, that's after he has been part of the foundation that created a product that near a billion people are using, millions are looking to invest it, thousands became millionaires on? How much economic activity and various jobs and taxes one has to pay for YOU to SHUT THE FUCK UP about what they 'owe' anybody?
He does not owe shit to anybody, not to you, not to your retarded government, not to anybody in the world.
He feels that taxes on stocks kept less than 24 hours should be 90% of profits, dropping to 50% after a week, and then back down to standard capital gains after one year. I'd never thought I'd hear such words fall from his lips, but then again he is a player in the long game of the stock markets.
- he is going to collect precisely 0 with a scheme that even raises a 1% tax on day trading, that's because you can't collect taxes from something that is not happening and his idiotic ideas would simply kill the activity.
And in this war against death we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender; we shall kill all enemies, domestic and foreign.
Yes, that's an important thing - re-branding. Can't have the old name still being used, it has all these connotations from the old - SLAVE.
Well, the society changes, everything changes. What used to be called a slave now is a 'tax payer' and what used to be called slavery now is 'social contract'.
Well, nobody signed that contract. No child that is born signed any contract promising to give more than half of his entire life's work, which means more than half of his entire life paying for this so called 'social contract'.
And yes, it is slavery. You think this contract means something, you think you are just part of a normal working system, you are paying for something and you'll receive benefits out of it later on?
Well, that's the saddest and the most pathetic type of slavery - slavery with hope, slavery that is accepted and that is cheered for.
You are a slave, they changed the naming convention, to achieve higher efficiencies the definition of the concept was moved somewhat, nothing new - we always change the meaning, we always change the definitions, we evolve our understanding of concepts as we become more efficient and gain new insights.
What is disgusting is this acceptance of these terms, even worse, as this story shows - slaves hoping to beat others into the same level of slavery they are at, hating those, who can escape it.
wants to add GIMP there. Types gimp in the search bar thing, its icon appears
- ha ha ha, that's right, everybody now needs to know every name of every application.
Want to open 'notepad'? Well, unless you renamed it or have 'Wine' installed (by the way, 'Wine'), you'll need to remember 'gedit'.
This is just all wrong, and if they wanted to replicate iPad on a desktop they got it wrong too. I don't believe anybody TYPES 'gedit' on iPad to open a notepad, they just flick to the leftmost edge and there is the notepad.
. You think that FB could have got of the ground in a country without a government or infrastructure, like Somalia?
- people love to diss Somalia, a country that was a UK colony and then a Communist dictatorship and fought to get rid of their own slave owners 20 years ago. Today there are people making money there in telecommunications - mobile phones are used to pay for products and services with SMS messages and more. Because there is no central government regulations, there is plenty of opportunity there to experiment in business, and I personally think there are interesting investment opportunities there in everything, including more new ideas for infrastructure.
As to FB there - maybe it couldn't be what it is, but it could be a mobile FB version.
Who paid for that, in dollars and blood over the last several centuries?
- who do you think did? Businesses. Individuals who built businesses created the wealth and that was the wealth that built the infrastructure in USA.
The government can try and take credit, but the government is only stealing the money and distributing it, including into government projects, and that's wrong. First of all without subsidies government projects won't last, and subsidies will end, because this type of policy destroys economy. Secondly, before government was in business of stealing from people via income/payroll/corporate/death/capital gains/dividend taxes, the infrastructure was built, as the USA was becoming world's dominant manufacturer, creditor nation.
You think USA was becoming world's biggest creditor nation in 1870-1913 because it was becoming the biggest manufacturer and exporter of high quality, cheap consumer goods, and infrastructure wasn't built? That's not how it works. Infrastructure was built efficiently and economically, because it was built only the way market needed it to be built, not in a government project way of stealing resources and building roads for the hell of it.
Why do you think Hawaii has H1 interstate on an island? You think it connects them to another state? It's not about infrastructure, it's about theft - both of resources from the productive members of society and of power from everybody. It's unconstitutional as well, by the way.
You want to be a patriot?
- can't be a patriot when the principles upon which the country is founded, principles that created the nation of the free people and thus the wealthy society is destroyed by the government.
Cannot be a patriot of the government. It's a canard that in order to be a patriot a citizen must allow the government to step over his own freedoms. Cannot be a patriot of a government that does not abide by the rule of law.
The Constitution is the law above the government, the government is above the law, has been for 100 years, more even, since T. Roosevelt. Can't be a patriot in a country that allowed a king where a republic once was.
Don't try to cheat the system by cutting and running in order to save yourself from paying taxes.
- as to this.
1. There is nothing patriotic about paying taxes. 2. There is nothing wrong with avoiding taxes. 3. AFAIC it's most patriotic to avoid taxes.
By avoiding taxes, you prevent the government from getting bigger and your money isn't going towards government programs, and they are all now unconstitutional.
When the government destroys the economy completely, only those, who have real savings will be in the position of really pushing the restoration forward.
There will be rebuilding once this collapses, and without people with real money this process will be much slower and more painful.
I think that he should play only exactly as much as the law says he owes,
- then you are contradicting yourself. He is not doing anything that is against the law even as the law is.
myriad "private" forms of intrusion faced by poor folks
- people are using Google for free otherwise, and it is the payment they are making to the company, that their information is collected and used for advertising.
As long as this information doesn't make it into the hands of the government thugs there is no issue that you are making it out to be.
getting sidetracked much? Google is not a monopoly in search, that's first. Secondly, android is not a monopoly in phones. Thirdly you have no choice with the FBI, unlike with Google. The constitutional argument has nothing to do with Google, as Constitution applies to the government, it's the law above government, not above Google. Lastly: the Constitution does not allow the federal government to spy on people without a warrant through any means, including forcing private companies to give up this information.
At no point did John or anyone pay tax on the capital gains of $9,900,000.
- what capital gains? The holdings are not worth anything until they are sold, what is this ridiculous notion that you have to pay taxes simply because something moves in value up or down (and nowadays it's all a canard anyway, because it's not the value of the holdings that changes, it's the value of the money that is being destroyed - inflation).
You don't have any gains until you sell that property, the taxes are not paid as the property's supposed value changes, they are paid when it's realised.
Besides, income taxes, death taxes, corporate taxes, payroll taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes, all of this is immoral, it assumes you are the property of the state. Also the real wealth in USA was built at the time when there was not a single tax like that.
Oh please, with our modern efficiencies it is much better to outsource the feeding, the health care, the living accommodations, the clothing and such of the slaves to the market than for the slave owners to care about all those things.
It's called - efficiency and specialisation. As a slave owner you want your slaves to be productive, and that doesn't include beating them or even telling them that they are slaves.
Slaves that know and understand their predicament spend more time thinking about how to escape working and how to pretend that work is done than how to do work.
How do you have slaves doctors and slaves engineers and slaves computer programmers and slaves teachers, etc.? You don't tell them that they are slaves, you make it look like they matter, like they have freedoms, even like they can actually change the way the government works!
Of-course it's all nonsense, the reality is that the productivity of a slave went way up that they stopped being slaves directly and became slaves just paying income taxes. The productivity went way up, the number of businesses creating products went way up. You can't have the same thing with just normal slaves living in barracks.
Besides, the slavery that used to exist in USA was also based on racism and that idea has outlived its purpose completely. Why limit yourself to a small percentage of people out of the entire population who could slave for the masters? There is no reason for that, we are metropolitan now.
We don't discriminate between black, white and other types of slaves.
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Maybe you should just donate to the hospitals, etc., and leave people to their own devices, not force them into YOUR vision of how things should work? Or is it asking too much - not to start dividing other people's money? It's other people's money, not yours, that you want to divide, don't I understand you right? Because if you were talking about your money, you'd be just donating yourself and not talking about using gov't violence to steal from others.
SOPA, PIPA, whatever.
CISPA, that's where the game is at. It passed the house.
Housing crisis given by 'small government' and you are suggesting to somebody else they should 'grow fucking up'?
You are the 'fuck up', if that is what you believe.
The housing crisis was created by the government, the Great Depression and the 70s recession were created by the government. The 1921 depression and the inflation of the dot com bubble were created by the government.
USA USED to have small government when USA was productive, yes, but USA government is what creates all these issues and you are telling somebody else to 'fucking grow up'. That's hight of either hypocrisy or stupidity and ignorance (or all of the above).
Without the Federal reserve, the monetisation of Treasury debt, insane business regulations and taxes there wouldn't have been the current economic collapse, which is CREATED by the government.
So did he use all of this gov't subsidised (with stolen money) infrastructure so much more than you, that he has to pay half a billion dollars in exit taxes? He is paying what, 500 million in exit taxes, that's after he has been part of the foundation that created a product that near a billion people are using, millions are looking to invest it, thousands became millionaires on? How much economic activity and various jobs and taxes one has to pay for YOU to SHUT THE FUCK UP about what they 'owe' anybody?
He does not owe shit to anybody, not to you, not to your retarded government, not to anybody in the world.
He feels that taxes on stocks kept less than 24 hours should be 90% of profits, dropping to 50% after a week, and then back down to standard capital gains after one year. I'd never thought I'd hear such words fall from his lips, but then again he is a player in the long game of the stock markets.
- he is going to collect precisely 0 with a scheme that even raises a 1% tax on day trading, that's because you can't collect taxes from something that is not happening and his idiotic ideas would simply kill the activity.
Historically low for those who don't pay them and historically high for those who do.
What they fail to understand is that the political and social stability of the US is built on taxes as well.
- stability.
That word doesn't mean what you think it does.
Also who think voluntary money paid to support society is theft,
- voluntary. That word doesn't mean what you think it does.
You are making an error in logical thinking and you manage to do it within only 2 sentences.
Nobody 'denies' anybody birth control. Nobody prevents anybody from BUYING birth control they need.
We've already decided on universal healthcare - anyone can walk into an ER and get treated
- that is the problem.
Printing cannot match the resulting material strength and production speed of forging.
Aaah, so that's your secret way to get all the chicks! I hear you!
And in this war against death we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender; we shall kill all enemies, domestic and foreign.
Well, unlike Google's slogan of 'no evil', FB has its own slogan:move fast and break stuff.
So they are just living up to their own expectations, they are setting the goal high and reaching it alright.
To think about it, the motto IS weird, wouldn't it make sense at least to add something to it, like this:
Move fast, break stuff, then fucking fix it before we fired you!?
Nobody should have to type commands in a GUI, period.
There is CLI for that.
Yes, that's an important thing - re-branding. Can't have the old name still being used, it has all these connotations from the old - SLAVE.
Well, the society changes, everything changes. What used to be called a slave now is a 'tax payer' and what used to be called slavery now is 'social contract'.
Well, nobody signed that contract. No child that is born signed any contract promising to give more than half of his entire life's work, which means more than half of his entire life paying for this so called 'social contract'.
And yes, it is slavery. You think this contract means something, you think you are just part of a normal working system, you are paying for something and you'll receive benefits out of it later on?
Well, that's the saddest and the most pathetic type of slavery - slavery with hope, slavery that is accepted and that is cheered for.
You are a slave, they changed the naming convention, to achieve higher efficiencies the definition of the concept was moved somewhat, nothing new - we always change the meaning, we always change the definitions, we evolve our understanding of concepts as we become more efficient and gain new insights.
What is disgusting is this acceptance of these terms, even worse, as this story shows - slaves hoping to beat others into the same level of slavery they are at, hating those, who can escape it.
wants to add GIMP there. Types gimp in the search bar thing, its icon appears
- ha ha ha, that's right, everybody now needs to know every name of every application.
Want to open 'notepad'? Well, unless you renamed it or have 'Wine' installed (by the way, 'Wine'), you'll need to remember 'gedit'.
This is just all wrong, and if they wanted to replicate iPad on a desktop they got it wrong too. I don't believe anybody TYPES 'gedit' on iPad to open a notepad, they just flick to the leftmost edge and there is the notepad.
. You think that FB could have got of the ground in a country without a government or infrastructure, like Somalia?
- people love to diss Somalia, a country that was a UK colony and then a Communist dictatorship and fought to get rid of their own slave owners 20 years ago. Today there are people making money there in telecommunications - mobile phones are used to pay for products and services with SMS messages and more. Because there is no central government regulations, there is plenty of opportunity there to experiment in business, and I personally think there are interesting investment opportunities there in everything, including more new ideas for infrastructure.
As to FB there - maybe it couldn't be what it is, but it could be a mobile FB version.
Who paid for that, in dollars and blood over the last several centuries?
- who do you think did? Businesses. Individuals who built businesses created the wealth and that was the wealth that built the infrastructure in USA.
The government can try and take credit, but the government is only stealing the money and distributing it, including into government projects, and that's wrong. First of all without subsidies government projects won't last, and subsidies will end, because this type of policy destroys economy. Secondly, before government was in business of stealing from people via income/payroll/corporate/death/capital gains/dividend taxes, the infrastructure was built, as the USA was becoming world's dominant manufacturer, creditor nation.
You think USA was becoming world's biggest creditor nation in 1870-1913 because it was becoming the biggest manufacturer and exporter of high quality, cheap consumer goods, and infrastructure wasn't built? That's not how it works. Infrastructure was built efficiently and economically, because it was built only the way market needed it to be built, not in a government project way of stealing resources and building roads for the hell of it.
Why do you think Hawaii has H1 interstate on an island? You think it connects them to another state? It's not about infrastructure, it's about theft - both of resources from the productive members of society and of power from everybody. It's unconstitutional as well, by the way.
You want to be a patriot?
- can't be a patriot when the principles upon which the country is founded, principles that created the nation of the free people and thus the wealthy society is destroyed by the government.
Cannot be a patriot of the government. It's a canard that in order to be a patriot a citizen must allow the government to step over his own freedoms. Cannot be a patriot of a government that does not abide by the rule of law.
The Constitution is the law above the government, the government is above the law, has been for 100 years, more even, since T. Roosevelt. Can't be a patriot in a country that allowed a king where a republic once was.
Don't try to cheat the system by cutting and running in order to save yourself from paying taxes.
- as to this.
1. There is nothing patriotic about paying taxes.
2. There is nothing wrong with avoiding taxes.
3. AFAIC it's most patriotic to avoid taxes.
By avoiding taxes, you prevent the government from getting bigger and your money isn't going towards government programs, and they are all now unconstitutional.
When the government destroys the economy completely, only those, who have real savings will be in the position of really pushing the restoration forward.
There will be rebuilding once this collapses, and without people with real money this process will be much slower and more painful.
I think that he should play only exactly as much as the law says he owes,
- then you are contradicting yourself. He is not doing anything that is against the law even as the law is.
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myriad "private" forms of intrusion faced by poor folks
- people are using Google for free otherwise, and it is the payment they are making to the company, that their information is collected and used for advertising.
As long as this information doesn't make it into the hands of the government thugs there is no issue that you are making it out to be.
getting sidetracked much? Google is not a monopoly in search, that's first. Secondly, android is not a monopoly in phones. Thirdly you have no choice with the FBI, unlike with Google. The constitutional argument has nothing to do with Google, as Constitution applies to the government, it's the law above government, not above Google. Lastly: the Constitution does not allow the federal government to spy on people without a warrant through any means, including forcing private companies to give up this information.
At no point did John or anyone pay tax on the capital gains of $9,900,000.
- what capital gains? The holdings are not worth anything until they are sold, what is this ridiculous notion that you have to pay taxes simply because something moves in value up or down (and nowadays it's all a canard anyway, because it's not the value of the holdings that changes, it's the value of the money that is being destroyed - inflation).
You don't have any gains until you sell that property, the taxes are not paid as the property's supposed value changes, they are paid when it's realised.
Besides, income taxes, death taxes, corporate taxes, payroll taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes, all of this is immoral, it assumes you are the property of the state. Also the real wealth in USA was built at the time when there was not a single tax like that.
I use an old simple Nokia, so you don't get any sympathy.
Google is not your Friendly Bureaucratic Institution, it's just a company that you don't have to deal with and can voluntarily abstain from.
Constitution, by the way, doesn't apply to private entities, it's the law above the government, not above individuals and their businesses.
-- said God and it was so. He called this rock a planet. And God saw that it was all good.
- thank you, but call me Roman.
Oh please, with our modern efficiencies it is much better to outsource the feeding, the health care, the living accommodations, the clothing and such of the slaves to the market than for the slave owners to care about all those things.
It's called - efficiency and specialisation. As a slave owner you want your slaves to be productive, and that doesn't include beating them or even telling them that they are slaves.
Slaves that know and understand their predicament spend more time thinking about how to escape working and how to pretend that work is done than how to do work.
How do you have slaves doctors and slaves engineers and slaves computer programmers and slaves teachers, etc.? You don't tell them that they are slaves, you make it look like they matter, like they have freedoms, even like they can actually change the way the government works!
Of-course it's all nonsense, the reality is that the productivity of a slave went way up that they stopped being slaves directly and became slaves just paying income taxes. The productivity went way up, the number of businesses creating products went way up. You can't have the same thing with just normal slaves living in barracks.
Besides, the slavery that used to exist in USA was also based on racism and that idea has outlived its purpose completely. Why limit yourself to a small percentage of people out of the entire population who could slave for the masters? There is no reason for that, we are metropolitan now.
We don't discriminate between black, white and other types of slaves.