ARPANET - one project out of millions that produced anything even remotely useful. TCP/IP? Big deal. Networking does not rely on just the protocol and there were plenty of protocols already and more would have been created, it's not like the gov't was needed to push phones or radio usage and development.
Ha, if the gov't decided it was going to be in business distributing computers 'fairly' and whatnot, you'd never see this sort of innovation. Where would we be? Still using Altairs, running MS basic on them? Nobody would have iPhones and iPads an laptops and normal desktops, the computers would still be size of a large box, with little improvement. They'd be subsidised, so the costs would be going up every year, nobody would be able actually to afford them except the very rich. Just like AT&T beige phones were rented and not sold, these computers also wouldn't be your property, they'd be property of the State or whatever monopoly that'd have the license.
Your taxes would go up year to year, just to ensure that every new kid gets this machine, the prices would always go up, of-course, not even in tune with normal gov't inflation, but instead the way prices go up where there is inflation and direct subsidy - there would be more and more laws created directing the use of computers and so more and more departments would have been added.
Obviously the work-force would have been completely unionised, so the cost cutting in work force wouldn't have been possible. Full pensions would be mandated, whatever else the gov't backed unions provide, excellent stuff. Too bad you'r hand held device would look like 3 large suitcases - 1 with the super-fast 2MHz computer, complete with a 80x12 ASCII screen and the other 2 suitcases would be filled with batteries.
We should all be thanking the lucky stars that the gov't didn't try to make computers 'affordable'. The bubble in computers would have been pretty big, maybe not as big as in housing though, but who knows.
People came the USA to make money, not evade taxes or escape oppression
- by the way, even today USA provides huge opportunities for tax evasion, which is why so much money is still there - foreign money.
The money that is made by foreigners on their investments in USA are not automatically collected for the foreign governments by the IRS. USA is a huge tax haven for foreigners I'll have you know.
People certainly came to USA to avoid the taxes that they were paying back in their own countries, USA had a war with a King over taxes (sure sure, without representation, as if the Federal government is representing you today, or even your State government for that matter. The closest thing that represents you that is sort-of government like is you condominium corporation.)
If we had those regulations maybe less people would have been victimized, less crime would have occurred and people may not have lived such short brutal lives.
- NO, what would have happened, would have mean less competition, less economic activity, because rules would have put most people out of rich of running their businesses the way gov't prescribes they must.
Can't make an omelette without braking a bunch of eggs, can't have wealth producing society without an intermediate steps of suffering and hard work and brutality. If you believe you can wave a magic wand and create all the wealth to pay for all this nonsense you are espousing, then you are only guilty of wishful thinking and nothing else.
People came the USA to make money
- and why couldn't they do this at home? Because USA was the land of opportunity, but the opportunity based on WHAT? Opportunity based on NON EXISTENT GOVERNMENT.
All of the questions that you marked up as "Straw man" are the important questions that will arise when the rubber hits the road (or the ship leaves port as it were).
- they were all straw man arguments, which you constructed and then implied that I made a comment on them, while I didn't.
If you phrase them in form of a question, that's a different comment then, it's not what you did, thus - straw man.
Is anybody forcing YOU to go there onto that boat and figure all those things out? NO? Then it doesn't concern you at all, does it?
They'll figure this out, it's not like you are the first to think of these questions and it's not like the boat operators wouldn't want to set rules - it's their territory after all.
IF the rules are such, that they make MORE SENSE to the population on board, than the rules ashore, then that's all we need to know - it's a comparative advantage.
The freest country with slavery and voting for only wealthy white landowners
- first of all, you are saying it like it was a bad thing that only landowners could vote.
As to blacks, as I said, I would NOT have ratified that Constitution with that language in it, but by 1870 the slavery was no longer the same issue at all.
I am against democracy, unless you are mistaken, I am against democracy, AFAIC democracy is mobocracy, it is the gateway to tyranny, that is my conviction.
OTOH having a representative democracy is fine, where a subgroup of people will vote on issues directly, not the entire population.
In 1870 to 1913 we had the beginnings of the labor movement.
- so? There could be no labour movement before there was labour, could there? When everybody is a subsistence farmer, hunter / gatherer, they don't form unions. But that's not why wealth was created at all. Wealth was created by the businesses, not by unions.
The businesses made people productive, provided management, efficient allocation of land, labour and capital and created the goods that actually were then bought by the very people who were working. That's how the tide lifted the boats.
As the free market capitalism provided the profits and investment capital, this was used to acquire and build better tools, making the workers more efficient and productive, and this is why one person could do much more with the tools than anybody before could without those tools, that's what investment is, and that's how a worker becomes more affluent earners - by being more efficient, by doing more with less time. That's why the working hours could eventually be shorted, that's why there were weekends.
Subsistence farmers don't get to enjoy 8 hour days and 5 working day weeks, they don't have that luxury. Only capitalist free market could create that.
The reality is trickle down does not work, and the rich are more than happy to take all the gains.
- nonsense.
This so called 'trickle down economics' is the ONLY economics that works. The more productive a worker at a factory is building cars, the more efficiently the cars are built, they cheaper they can be sold, so that more people buy them, because more profits are made by selling more cheaper products, not fewer more expensive products.
Originally only the very rich could afford cell phones, computers, plasma TVs. Today everybody has them - that's how productive the capitalists made the workers, that everybody can afford these things.
THAT is trickle down economics, THAT is how wealth is distributed in the free market. Your problem is you think about wealth in terms of money - but the best way to treat money is to have it concentrated in the hands of those, who were the best at organising land, capital and labour to produce that profit, that resulted from all those efficiencies and overproduction, and the market willing to pay for those profits.
You are saying that the wealth isn't being distributed? How many cell phones have you had in your life? Cars? Houses? Pairs of clothes? Shoes? TVs? Computers? Tables? Chairs?
You think wealth is what the rich have and you do not? Wealth is what you can use on daily basis, the rich have the WORK.
You think Steve Jobs having spent under 4% of his entire fortune during his life enjoyed the wealth he created by using it? NO. It was all invested, 96% of his wealth was always invested, so that slobs like you could be lifted in the tide that he was busy creating.
So only those with money should be allowed to vote?
- straw man.
The only people who PAY for the music should be able to order it. Those who pay income taxes to the federal gov't are those who should be allowed to vote, nobody else.
If I lose my job and live off my savings for a year I should not be able to vote?
- bullshit. The freest country was formed, under the Constitution. It's not free anymore, but it built the wealthiest creditor nation, producing cheap, high quality goods. 1870-1913 was the time when the actual middle class was created on this planet - small, medium sized businessmen and professionals.
The rising tide lifted all boats. You are so eager to denounce people who are looking for more freedoms today, you have completely forgotten why people were escaping from their perspective governments in the past.
Check out who could vote in those first elections
- well, except for the blacks, who obviously were not freed even under the Constitution (the reason I wouldn't have ratified it with that in it), the people who could vote were people who would have voted under the King as well - land owners, because they were the ones actually participating in the economy, bearing the burden of whatever taxes and decisions by the gov't.
The difference between UK and USA was that in UK only a small elite group of aristocrats owned land, in USA about half of the male population ended up as land owners at the time.
AFAIC people who aren't paying federal taxes shouldn't be allowed to vote in federal elections. Women weren't participating in the work force at the time, so that was the reason they couldn't vote and it was not wrong, the moment they actually started owning businesses and paying taxes they also basically got their voting rights.
There will be no restrictions on who or how many can come on board?
- obviously you didn't understand what was written - you pay to get onboard.
There will be no heath or safety rules?
- who gives a rats ass?
Do you know what would have happened if any of this nonsense was present during the days Amercan settlers took off to go West?
Taxes, health inspections, licenses, regulations?
USA would never have become anything if gov't in its current form was present then. It would have been catastrophically impossible to do.
Seems to me if you have any of those (and many more) problems
- it's nonsense, those are not problem, they are only problems in your head. What you call problems are freedoms and opportunity.
Face it, this is not some escape from some supposedly oppressive government, it is a tax dodge and immigration scam.
1. It IS to escape the oppressive governments, otherwise most people wouldn't have came to USA either.
2. There is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with not wanting to pay taxes, especially the taxes that exist today, absolutely insane taxes - income taxes, taxes on work. Regulations, all that nonsense.
Oh yeah? Like the America failed when it fought against the King? Sure, USA is a continent, not a ship, but we don't have more free continents to occupy around. This will have to do for now, until the technology invented on that ship and other ships like it will allow building bigger ships, islands, underwater cities, who knows.
People have already done this many times. Every migration has its difficulties and down-sides.
USA was populated with white and other people hundreds of years ago because those people wanted to leave their oppressive governments.
At the time those other governments also wanted to dominate the people who moved onto these new territories, so it's nothing new that the more entrepreneurial folks want to move away and something outside of the boundaries of their respective decadent nations, it's just that there is so little land that is actually unoccupied.
It's about 2 sides to every bet, every deal, it's why the idea that speculators are responsible for driving prices up or down is stupid, they are not driving prices up or down, they are discovering the prices that are set by the market. They are an indicator - a thermometer of the prices, not an enforcer, they can't set them, they can only read them.
These stories are coming out because there are 2 sides to every business deal, and the sides are being weighed upon.
It's a great idea, totally worth it if it works out, very good.
It just shows to what extent the governments of the world have pushed the people that they are willing to spend time and money into this, leaving their borders, living uncomfortably on a boat (don't tell me it's very comfortable on a boat, you can't escape the walls, it's going to be tight, it's not a nice living, and obviously it's going to be a sausage-fest).
The entrepreneurial spirit lives on beyond and outside of the thieving governments and bread and circuses masses, it's going to be the boats, eventually the islands, underground, underwater cities, who knows. We need new frontiers, and who is better to push the boundaries but people who are thinking of new business opportunities, new ways to make profit.
If the government hundreds of years ago was what it is today, the USA wouldn't have become anything worth noting. The settlers wouldn't have been able to leave, no insurance, no licenses, whatever rules and regulations and taxes, it would have been impossible safe for the wealthiest few.
This is a government created problem, this can only be resolved by abolishing the government from meddling with economics on this level (on any level, but this story is about copyrights and patents here, not anything else).
It's not up to Oracle, it's up to the people deciding what sort of a system they want - a system where gov't is allowed to intervene and create laws that destroy innovation and businesses with copyright and patent laws or a free society with a free economy - free of government created monopolies, free from gov't counterfeiting the money while pretending that copyrights mean anything except less competition and higher prices and less choices.
The fact that you can't understand my comment based on what it said (and probably you are following my comments all the time, because you are quite pathetic) and based on all my previous comments, so the context is obvious... to think that I am a socialist... I just vomited in your general direction.
- when something is forced upon you without your choice, you don't get a a choice not to 'rely' on all this nonsense. It's funny to me that you believe that the only thing that stands between you and chaos is government. Somehow the USA became world's largest creditor, manufacturer and exporter of high quality, cheap goods, while not having 99.999% of all the laws that are in existence today. Just in 2012 40,000 more new laws came into power. 40K laws in one year. Never mind all the new cabinet positions, various departments, committees, fake money....
You are insane if you believe that gov't is actually doing anything FOR YOU, that's so ridiculous. Nothing is done for you, everything that is done is done by the politicians for the politicians, and that you think that something is done for you, just proves the bread and circuses point - you have been consumed by the system so successfully, you can't imagine being a free person in your life.
I suggest you watch this video, it's a step by step deconstruction of the latest attempt at brainwashing by the current dictator in chief of USA.
Nullify the copyrights and patents and take this issue to the SCOTUS.
Just look at this. This is insanity, nobody should have to be a hostage to a judge and jury and to the insane players, like Oracle, in any time in their lives. You think THIS PROMOTES INNOVATION?
You think this promotes innovation, invention, anything that is good and positive in the world at all? All this does is it destroys. If APIs are copyrightable, if patents are everywhere, forget Java, forget smart phones, how can you have any new ideas, any new businesses, any new wealth (products, services) created?
This is insanity, anybody supporting a system that allows this is insane, the entire society that believes this creates more innovation and invention and business and ideas is insane.
[ Recap of the day: Google won everything but the one issue that the judge has to decide anyway, the API SSO issue. The jury found, as they had been instructed to assume for the purposes of deliberation, that APIs can be copyrighted, the structure, sequence and arrangement of APIs, but that is by no means established. The same question, in a b) section, asked if fair use excused any infringement if found, and the jury couldn't resolve that issue. But the judge has to decide whether or not that is true, that APIs can be protected by copyright. That comes later this month. Meanwhile, Oracle prevailed only on 9 lines of code that Google admitted prior to trial to have included by mistake and then removed from current Android. Oracle's own expert, the judge pointed out in court, valued those 9 lines of code at zero. This is 9 lines out of millions. So that means, if we are looking at damages, that so far Oracle has won nothing. There is no liability. You can't have infringement without considering fair use, Google asserts, and there will be briefing on that. Somebody has to decide that fair use issue. And then the judge has to decide about the API copyrightability issue. If he rules that APIs can't be copyrighted, as the EU Court of Justice just ruled, then fair use is moot. And Oracle takes nothing at all from the copyright phase of this litigation, and this was heralded far and wide by Oracle people as the big ticket item, if you recall.
Don't let anyone fool you. Today was a major victory for Google. That's why after the jury left, our reporter says that Google's table was laughing, and Oracle's mighty glum. And I see some journalists are surprised or confused, because they have been listening to a steady flow of Oracle FUD from the wrong people. Remember the headlines about this being a $6 billion dollar case? It never was and now it never will be. Oracle attorney Michael Jacobs was reported to have visited the press room at the courthouse during the trial for a talk with the gathered journalists. So did a PR person from his firm. I mean, come on, fellas. And that doesn't even count the huge stream of misinformation from... well, you know. And look at the outcome. Not what you were told to expect, is it? Live and learn, y'all. Live and learn. If a person is paid by Oracle, why would you take it as necessarily so? And here's why the API decision matters so much.]
China already had a 10 year build up and it already invaded America, only it's not with guns and tanks and jets, it's with cheap clothing, phones, seafood, TVs, computers and such.
A Chinese army in USA isn't about shooting bullets, it is about subsidising the US consumer with products and using this tactic while the US gov't is destroying domestic economy.
The next major war won't be one country against another, it will be a civil war.
Why in our time somebody, anybody would need passwords to be stored for log purposes at all? You need to check if the user is typing it the right passwords? Compare the encrypted versions and store a state saying: correct / wrong password was used, what else do you need?
This is just stupidity, there is no other word for it.
I am going to take this comment apart, piece by piece, because the ideas expressed in it are just too controversial and must be addressed, denounced and rejected.
First of all, it starts in a commercial manner, pushing the products onto the unsuspecting readers. This is a major problem with our media, it is oversaturated by the advertising of mostly foreign products. Of-course this brings out the hatred, just as you mentioned, but is the appropriate response a simple emotion, expressed in a flat, uninspired manner, or should it be a call to action? I believe the former is not only enough, but also inconsiderately remote. Is there really more to life, as you are suggesting or does life truly depend on and consist of such mannerisms, in which this post is going to be ascribed? That is the question, these are the times. The response is less less and less of one side of the equation and more more and more of the tangential cerebral articulation. As you rightly stated, the disease runs its course through the notion of the circular reasoning. The gates of hell are open to those, who are not free to be numbers, they are on the menu, every one of the members is diseased and healthy simultaneously. While reading this message, you should read further, it won't do you any good to stop reading mid-sentence, not that not stopping to read will not be any less more. Eating your life, drinking your work, you cannot desire less for more, only the contrary doesn't run against you. The sadness without the laughter is the enlightenment of the yesterday, and this is a comment on the now. Is today more than tomorrow was not? Nobody can predict the sales of today without knowing what is the past of tomorrow.
This place is just as good for the customers as it is for a paragraph, so it is intentionally left blank. Whatever we believe and know we know and believe, therein lies the loudness of the divorce. There can not be misunderstanding on the cost of the payment, not that without knowing we can believe, a word is not worth a thousand pictures except for its name. Every day, every moment, the old contacts the cancellation and loudness is found without any work at all. The time now is for a style change, under developed sense of stability will not prevent the slowness.
Therein therefore lies another paragraph, and who is to say that our commands and colour-blindness is not lost within the thirst of the joy. Be silent and forever
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Hold your cash, I have already moved somewhere away, where business is much easier to do than in US.
I can dispute anything, for example I can dispute that 'straw man' means that I wasn't making an argument that was claimed I was making.
As to the merits of the questions - I don't consider them to be actual problems.
The facts are not what you think.
About 3000 competitors were destroyed by the gov't to give AT&T its monopoly.
ARPANET - one project out of millions that produced anything even remotely useful. TCP/IP? Big deal. Networking does not rely on just the protocol and there were plenty of protocols already and more would have been created, it's not like the gov't was needed to push phones or radio usage and development.
Ha, if the gov't decided it was going to be in business distributing computers 'fairly' and whatnot, you'd never see this sort of innovation. Where would we be? Still using Altairs, running MS basic on them? Nobody would have iPhones and iPads an laptops and normal desktops, the computers would still be size of a large box, with little improvement. They'd be subsidised, so the costs would be going up every year, nobody would be able actually to afford them except the very rich. Just like AT&T beige phones were rented and not sold, these computers also wouldn't be your property, they'd be property of the State or whatever monopoly that'd have the license.
Your taxes would go up year to year, just to ensure that every new kid gets this machine, the prices would always go up, of-course, not even in tune with normal gov't inflation, but instead the way prices go up where there is inflation and direct subsidy - there would be more and more laws created directing the use of computers and so more and more departments would have been added.
Obviously the work-force would have been completely unionised, so the cost cutting in work force wouldn't have been possible. Full pensions would be mandated, whatever else the gov't backed unions provide, excellent stuff. Too bad you'r hand held device would look like 3 large suitcases - 1 with the super-fast 2MHz computer, complete with a 80x12 ASCII screen and the other 2 suitcases would be filled with batteries.
We should all be thanking the lucky stars that the gov't didn't try to make computers 'affordable'. The bubble in computers would have been pretty big, maybe not as big as in housing though, but who knows.
People came the USA to make money, not evade taxes or escape oppression
- by the way, even today USA provides huge opportunities for tax evasion, which is why so much money is still there - foreign money.
The money that is made by foreigners on their investments in USA are not automatically collected for the foreign governments by the IRS. USA is a huge tax haven for foreigners I'll have you know.
People certainly came to USA to avoid the taxes that they were paying back in their own countries, USA had a war with a King over taxes (sure sure, without representation, as if the Federal government is representing you today, or even your State government for that matter. The closest thing that represents you that is sort-of government like is you condominium corporation.)
If we had those regulations maybe less people would have been victimized, less crime would have occurred and people may not have lived such short brutal lives.
- NO, what would have happened, would have mean less competition, less economic activity, because rules would have put most people out of rich of running their businesses the way gov't prescribes they must.
Can't make an omelette without braking a bunch of eggs, can't have wealth producing society without an intermediate steps of suffering and hard work and brutality. If you believe you can wave a magic wand and create all the wealth to pay for all this nonsense you are espousing, then you are only guilty of wishful thinking and nothing else.
People came the USA to make money
- and why couldn't they do this at home? Because USA was the land of opportunity, but the opportunity based on WHAT? Opportunity based on NON EXISTENT GOVERNMENT.
not evade taxes
- Yeah, right.
or escape oppression
- Oh, wow, now that's ignorant.
All of the questions that you marked up as "Straw man" are the important questions that will arise when the rubber hits the road (or the ship leaves port as it were).
- they were all straw man arguments, which you constructed and then implied that I made a comment on them, while I didn't.
If you phrase them in form of a question, that's a different comment then, it's not what you did, thus - straw man.
Is anybody forcing YOU to go there onto that boat and figure all those things out? NO? Then it doesn't concern you at all, does it?
They'll figure this out, it's not like you are the first to think of these questions and it's not like the boat operators wouldn't want to set rules - it's their territory after all.
IF the rules are such, that they make MORE SENSE to the population on board, than the rules ashore, then that's all we need to know - it's a comparative advantage.
The freest country with slavery and voting for only wealthy white landowners
- first of all, you are saying it like it was a bad thing that only landowners could vote.
As to blacks, as I said, I would NOT have ratified that Constitution with that language in it, but by 1870 the slavery was no longer the same issue at all.
I am against democracy, unless you are mistaken, I am against democracy, AFAIC democracy is mobocracy, it is the gateway to tyranny, that is my conviction.
OTOH having a representative democracy is fine, where a subgroup of people will vote on issues directly, not the entire population.
In 1870 to 1913 we had the beginnings of the labor movement.
- so? There could be no labour movement before there was labour, could there? When everybody is a subsistence farmer, hunter / gatherer, they don't form unions. But that's not why wealth was created at all. Wealth was created by the businesses, not by unions.
The businesses made people productive, provided management, efficient allocation of land, labour and capital and created the goods that actually were then bought by the very people who were working. That's how the tide lifted the boats.
As the free market capitalism provided the profits and investment capital, this was used to acquire and build better tools, making the workers more efficient and productive, and this is why one person could do much more with the tools than anybody before could without those tools, that's what investment is, and that's how a worker becomes more affluent earners - by being more efficient, by doing more with less time. That's why the working hours could eventually be shorted, that's why there were weekends.
Subsistence farmers don't get to enjoy 8 hour days and 5 working day weeks, they don't have that luxury. Only capitalist free market could create that.
The reality is trickle down does not work, and the rich are more than happy to take all the gains.
- nonsense.
This so called 'trickle down economics' is the ONLY economics that works. The more productive a worker at a factory is building cars, the more efficiently the cars are built, they cheaper they can be sold, so that more people buy them, because more profits are made by selling more cheaper products, not fewer more expensive products.
Originally only the very rich could afford cell phones, computers, plasma TVs. Today everybody has them - that's how productive the capitalists made the workers, that everybody can afford these things.
THAT is trickle down economics, THAT is how wealth is distributed in the free market. Your problem is you think about wealth in terms of money - but the best way to treat money is to have it concentrated in the hands of those, who were the best at organising land, capital and labour to produce that profit, that resulted from all those efficiencies and overproduction, and the market willing to pay for those profits.
You are saying that the wealth isn't being distributed? How many cell phones have you had in your life? Cars? Houses? Pairs of clothes? Shoes? TVs? Computers? Tables? Chairs?
You think wealth is what the rich have and you do not? Wealth is what you can use on daily basis, the rich have the WORK.
You think Steve Jobs having spent under 4% of his entire fortune during his life enjoyed the wealth he created by using it? NO. It was all invested, 96% of his wealth was always invested, so that slobs like you could be lifted in the tide that he was busy creating.
So only those with money should be allowed to vote?
- straw man.
The only people who PAY for the music should be able to order it. Those who pay income taxes to the federal gov't are those who should be allowed to vote, nobody else.
If I lose my job and live off my savings for a year I should not be able to vote?
- CORRECT.
NOT IN THAT YEAR.
The USA had a war for independence.
- the point exactly.
Not much changed for the common man
- bullshit. The freest country was formed, under the Constitution. It's not free anymore, but it built the wealthiest creditor nation, producing cheap, high quality goods. 1870-1913 was the time when the actual middle class was created on this planet - small, medium sized businessmen and professionals.
The rising tide lifted all boats. You are so eager to denounce people who are looking for more freedoms today, you have completely forgotten why people were escaping from their perspective governments in the past.
Check out who could vote in those first elections
- well, except for the blacks, who obviously were not freed even under the Constitution (the reason I wouldn't have ratified it with that in it), the people who could vote were people who would have voted under the King as well - land owners, because they were the ones actually participating in the economy, bearing the burden of whatever taxes and decisions by the gov't.
The difference between UK and USA was that in UK only a small elite group of aristocrats owned land, in USA about half of the male population ended up as land owners at the time.
AFAIC people who aren't paying federal taxes shouldn't be allowed to vote in federal elections. Women weren't participating in the work force at the time, so that was the reason they couldn't vote and it was not wrong, the moment they actually started owning businesses and paying taxes they also basically got their voting rights.
not going to be any disputes between parties?
- straw man.
There will be no crime?
- straw man.
There will be no external threats?
- straw man.
There will be no restrictions on who or how many can come on board?
- obviously you didn't understand what was written - you pay to get onboard.
There will be no heath or safety rules?
- who gives a rats ass?
Do you know what would have happened if any of this nonsense was present during the days Amercan settlers took off to go West?
Taxes, health inspections, licenses, regulations?
USA would never have become anything if gov't in its current form was present then. It would have been catastrophically impossible to do.
Seems to me if you have any of those (and many more) problems
- it's nonsense, those are not problem, they are only problems in your head. What you call problems are freedoms and opportunity.
Face it, this is not some escape from some supposedly oppressive government, it is a tax dodge and immigration scam.
1. It IS to escape the oppressive governments, otherwise most people wouldn't have came to USA either.
2. There is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with not wanting to pay taxes, especially the taxes that exist today, absolutely insane taxes - income taxes, taxes on work. Regulations, all that nonsense.
3. Immigration scam? Be happy if anybody ever wilfully sets foot onto US soil again for the purposes of working there. There are now more 'illegal migrants' leaving USA to go back to Mexico than to come to US.
Oh yeah? Like the America failed when it fought against the King? Sure, USA is a continent, not a ship, but we don't have more free continents to occupy around. This will have to do for now, until the technology invented on that ship and other ships like it will allow building bigger ships, islands, underwater cities, who knows.
People have already done this many times. Every migration has its difficulties and down-sides.
USA was populated with white and other people hundreds of years ago because those people wanted to leave their oppressive governments.
At the time those other governments also wanted to dominate the people who moved onto these new territories, so it's nothing new that the more entrepreneurial folks want to move away and something outside of the boundaries of their respective decadent nations, it's just that there is so little land that is actually unoccupied.
No, as I commented a bit earlier, all these FB stories and none of the obvious one: the incoming IPO.
It's about 2 sides to every bet, every deal, it's why the idea that speculators are responsible for driving prices up or down is stupid, they are not driving prices up or down, they are discovering the prices that are set by the market. They are an indicator - a thermometer of the prices, not an enforcer, they can't set them, they can only read them.
These stories are coming out because there are 2 sides to every business deal, and the sides are being weighed upon.
It's a great idea, totally worth it if it works out, very good.
It just shows to what extent the governments of the world have pushed the people that they are willing to spend time and money into this, leaving their borders, living uncomfortably on a boat (don't tell me it's very comfortable on a boat, you can't escape the walls, it's going to be tight, it's not a nice living, and obviously it's going to be a sausage-fest).
The entrepreneurial spirit lives on beyond and outside of the thieving governments and bread and circuses masses, it's going to be the boats, eventually the islands, underground, underwater cities, who knows. We need new frontiers, and who is better to push the boundaries but people who are thinking of new business opportunities, new ways to make profit.
If the government hundreds of years ago was what it is today, the USA wouldn't have become anything worth noting. The settlers wouldn't have been able to leave, no insurance, no licenses, whatever rules and regulations and taxes, it would have been impossible safe for the wealthiest few.
This is good news.
Hey, dumb ass, did I talk about Oracle?
This is a government created problem, this can only be resolved by abolishing the government from meddling with economics on this level (on any level, but this story is about copyrights and patents here, not anything else).
It's not up to Oracle, it's up to the people deciding what sort of a system they want - a system where gov't is allowed to intervene and create laws that destroy innovation and businesses with copyright and patent laws or a free society with a free economy - free of government created monopolies, free from gov't counterfeiting the money while pretending that copyrights mean anything except less competition and higher prices and less choices.
The fact that you can't understand my comment based on what it said (and probably you are following my comments all the time, because you are quite pathetic) and based on all my previous comments, so the context is obvious... to think that I am a socialist... I just vomited in your general direction.
if Slashdot cannot be moved to provide it, a regulation to motivate that sounds good to me.
- so did you buy /. subscription then?
Are FB users PAYING for anything they are given by that business, for them to demand something from it?
Using gov't to push various agenda is all good and well, until you have no businesses left that want to deal with you at all.
rely on those "laws" every single day
- when something is forced upon you without your choice, you don't get a a choice not to 'rely' on all this nonsense. It's funny to me that you believe that the only thing that stands between you and chaos is government. Somehow the USA became world's largest creditor, manufacturer and exporter of high quality, cheap goods, while not having 99.999% of all the laws that are in existence today. Just in 2012 40,000 more new laws came into power. 40K laws in one year. Never mind all the new cabinet positions, various departments, committees, fake money....
You are insane if you believe that gov't is actually doing anything FOR YOU, that's so ridiculous. Nothing is done for you, everything that is done is done by the politicians for the politicians, and that you think that something is done for you, just proves the bread and circuses point - you have been consumed by the system so successfully, you can't imagine being a free person in your life.
I suggest you watch this video, it's a step by step deconstruction of the latest attempt at brainwashing by the current dictator in chief of USA.
Nullify the copyrights and patents and take this issue to the SCOTUS.
Just look at this. This is insanity, nobody should have to be a hostage to a judge and jury and to the insane players, like Oracle, in any time in their lives. You think THIS PROMOTES INNOVATION?
You think this promotes innovation, invention, anything that is good and positive in the world at all? All this does is it destroys. If APIs are copyrightable, if patents are everywhere, forget Java, forget smart phones, how can you have any new ideas, any new businesses, any new wealth (products, services) created?
This is insanity, anybody supporting a system that allows this is insane, the entire society that believes this creates more innovation and invention and business and ideas is insane.
From groklaw
[ Recap of the day: Google won everything but the one issue that the judge has to decide anyway, the API SSO issue. The jury found, as they had been instructed to assume for the purposes of deliberation, that APIs can be copyrighted, the structure, sequence and arrangement of APIs, but that is by no means established. The same question, in a b) section, asked if fair use excused any infringement if found, and the jury couldn't resolve that issue. But the judge has to decide whether or not that is true, that APIs can be protected by copyright. That comes later this month. Meanwhile, Oracle prevailed only on 9 lines of code that Google admitted prior to trial to have included by mistake and then removed from current Android. Oracle's own expert, the judge pointed out in court, valued those 9 lines of code at zero. This is 9 lines out of millions. So that means, if we are looking at damages, that so far Oracle has won nothing. There is no liability. You can't have infringement without considering fair use, Google asserts, and there will be briefing on that. Somebody has to decide that fair use issue. And then the judge has to decide about the API copyrightability issue. If he rules that APIs can't be copyrighted, as the EU Court of Justice just ruled, then fair use is moot. And Oracle takes nothing at all from the copyright phase of this litigation, and this was heralded far and wide by Oracle people as the big ticket item, if you recall.
Don't let anyone fool you. Today was a major victory for Google. That's why after the jury left, our reporter says that Google's table was laughing, and Oracle's mighty glum. And I see some journalists are surprised or confused, because they have been listening to a steady flow of Oracle FUD from the wrong people. Remember the headlines about this being a $6 billion dollar case? It never was and now it never will be. Oracle attorney Michael Jacobs was reported to have visited the press room at the courthouse during the trial for a talk with the gathered journalists. So did a PR person from his firm. I mean, come on, fellas. And that doesn't even count the huge stream of misinformation from ... well, you know. And look at the outcome. Not what you were told to expect, is it? Live and learn, y'all. Live and learn. If a person is paid by Oracle, why would you take it as necessarily so? And here's why the API decision matters so much.]
One creature's mistake is another creature's life of intelligent misery.
China already had a 10 year build up and it already invaded America, only it's not with guns and tanks and jets, it's with cheap clothing, phones, seafood, TVs, computers and such.
A Chinese army in USA isn't about shooting bullets, it is about subsidising the US consumer with products and using this tactic while the US gov't is destroying domestic economy.
The next major war won't be one country against another, it will be a civil war.
Why in our time somebody, anybody would need passwords to be stored for log purposes at all? You need to check if the user is typing it the right passwords? Compare the encrypted versions and store a state saying: correct / wrong password was used, what else do you need?
This is just stupidity, there is no other word for it.
I am going to take this comment apart, piece by piece, because the ideas expressed in it are just too controversial and must be addressed, denounced and rejected.
First of all, it starts in a commercial manner, pushing the products onto the unsuspecting readers. This is a major problem with our media, it is oversaturated by the advertising of mostly foreign products. Of-course this brings out the hatred, just as you mentioned, but is the appropriate response a simple emotion, expressed in a flat, uninspired manner, or should it be a call to action? I believe the former is not only enough, but also inconsiderately remote. Is there really more to life, as you are suggesting or does life truly depend on and consist of such mannerisms, in which this post is going to be ascribed? That is the question, these are the times. The response is less less and less of one side of the equation and more more and more of the tangential cerebral articulation. As you rightly stated, the disease runs its course through the notion of the circular reasoning. The gates of hell are open to those, who are not free to be numbers, they are on the menu, every one of the members is diseased and healthy simultaneously. While reading this message, you should read further, it won't do you any good to stop reading mid-sentence, not that not stopping to read will not be any less more. Eating your life, drinking your work, you cannot desire less for more, only the contrary doesn't run against you. The sadness without the laughter is the enlightenment of the yesterday, and this is a comment on the now. Is today more than tomorrow was not? Nobody can predict the sales of today without knowing what is the past of tomorrow.
This place is just as good for the customers as it is for a paragraph, so it is intentionally left blank. Whatever we believe and know we know and believe, therein lies the loudness of the divorce. There can not be misunderstanding on the cost of the payment, not that without knowing we can believe, a word is not worth a thousand pictures except for its name. Every day, every moment, the old contacts the cancellation and loudness is found without any work at all. The time now is for a style change, under developed sense of stability will not prevent the slowness.
Therein therefore lies another paragraph, and who is to say that our commands and colour-blindness is not lost within the thirst of the joy. Be silent and forever
Who said anything about 'killing'? Converting into energy - the matter doesn't disappear, it just changes its state.