Over 2 years of work on all of this, what do you think, you are coming out with something that was NOT looked at?
When you build your project like that, go ahead, be creative. You'll soon find that being creative to get around browser and document related problems takes all of your time rather than actually building the functions that business actually needs.
It's an app to run in a store, they don't do pagination, the filters are there, but it's possible to pull out an entire catalog, so say 40,000 lines of data in one window.
Let me put it this way: browsers are SHIT at this. Total irredeemable SHIT. Try it sometime, to pull 40,000 lines into a table, and then do manipulations on that (from sorting columns, to adding/removing rows for example). There is no patience for 5 minute page reloads, redraws, refreshes and repositioning.
No library can help with that either, no 'go', nothing.
Pulling out 40,000 lines that are serialized Java beans, compressed during transmission, rendering them all is just a couple of seconds, and then the table interface can do sorting and more in under a second per function.
So there you go, and that's just one example.
Other examples include being able to use various hardware from the interface, types of barcode scanners and printers that require other tricks and drivers your favorite browser is useless for.
Million/. monkeys can repeat the same stories over and over, that's what happens when the keys are on a touchscreen instead of having the proper clickety click keyboard.
Converting hundreds of millions of vehicles from normal fuel to hydrogen right now, without any reason, converting millions of gas stations.
Even just the fact that hydrogen is mainly collected as a byproduct of natural gas extraction, it's energy/volume and energy/mass density is ridiculously low compared to anything oil based, unless you start compressing it at extreme pressures.
Go ahead, ask me whether I am more comfortable driving a car that has a nuclear reactor in it or driving a car with a hydrogen tank, filled at 700bar.
If free markets always had the answer, then we would never have a stock-market crash because the market would always be factoring in the long-term.
- nonsense. The Federal reserve can always print more money and misallocate the resources and government can always create more regulations (destroying production capacity), which would crash the market, because the free market is actually trying to work out all of this misallocation.
A crash is actually a way to FIX the problem, it's a way that market is trying to get rid of the misallocations, malinvestments. Recessions need to work their way through, but government prevents them from doing so by injecting more and more money into the system.
Money hides the problem for a little while longer, but what happens in the long run is that the more times and the more money is used to push the problem into the future, the less effective this injections become, so more and more money is needed to be injected.
The problem is that the more money is injected the less probability is of the problem being solved by the market without a complete catastrophe - failure of the currency itself.
If we restrict the supply of oil, then the market will search of solutions.
- nonsense. The only way to move towards searching for real solutions is to have the real price of oil (not the price in inflated currency, but real price) to go much higher, this will eventually happen. As it is today, the actual price of oil is very low in real money, because the supply is very large.
In this case, trusting the markets is like driving toward a cliff.
- nonsense. It's hoping that the government will do something that would ever make any sense is driving towards a cliff.
How long ago did they set up the "department of energy"? Too long ago. So how is it working out for you?
Yeah, things are not all peaches and butterfly farts. Do you know what they do to get hydro electrical power sometimes? They flood entire valleys, destroys rivers and grounds, they destroys forests.
Gas and oil are the simplest forms of fuels to store. We figured out the way to store them that are the simples, safest forms of storage developed compared to ANY other types of fuels. Your assertion has no value here, no electrical battery is better than a gas tank.
They are the simplest to handle, they are liquids basically, they are the easiest to refill into a container, they are the most convenient, obviously there are no nuclear rods and there are no dams.
There is NOTHING that people do that does not produce SOME FORM of pollution. It's physically impossible to produce no pollution of any kind at all while storing/using/generating energy.
Even electrical transmission lines can be called 'polluting' or 'hurting' the environment in some other ways.
Do you know why that is? It's because it's energy. We need energy to do stuff and if we don't have energy, we die. We die from hunger, from dirty water, from lack of sanitation, from cold, whatever. We MUST modify our environment and that's how we will survive and we MUST use the cheapest ways of producing energy that are available at any point in time so we can concentrate our attention on the pressing things that we DO with that energy, which probably lead to our continuous survival not only on this globe, that is now supporting 7billion people and will support probably 1000 times as many people in 1000 years, but also off this planet. There is nothing that we do that can be considered 'clean' by everybody, but we do what we must.
The reason why people buy it is because the oil industry has successfully stalled efforts to replace it with something that's less polluting and renewable.
- and you call ME an idiot with this IDIOTIC assertion?
What a bunch of nonsense. Do you know why people are still using oil and coal and gas today? It's because it's the CHEAPEST and most abundant, easiest to use, easiest to transport, easiest to store and easiest to handle solution.
You don't have to grow it like corn and reprocess it into ethanol, you don't have to design security procedures around it that are equivalent of those used in nuclear power, you don't have liquefy it and hold it under extreme pressure like hydrogen, it has very dense energy content per volume and mass (of-course nuclear beats it, but every time I suggest a nuclear car, everybody freaks out).
Oil and gas and coal are not going anywhere until they are so expensive to extract, because technology can no longer be used to extract them cheaply, that even nuclear option becomes feasible, be it with nuclear power car engines or be it with nuclear power plants everywhere and completely redesigned infrastructure to support everybody driving an electric vehicle.
Your paranoia, that somebody had to sit and devise a way to destroy your water propelled car just to sell more oil is the idiotic fantasy, not my assertion that 100% of population wants oil, coal and gas - because they do.
Every single piece of bread you ate in your life was brought to you by oil, coal and gas (and in some cases nuclear). From fertilizers, to transport, to the heat of a stove, to your bus, to your elevator at home.
I don't know the definition of major in this context, if by 'major' you mean - it's built for Weblogic server 3 or 4 or 8 or 11 or for Websphere 4, 6, 7, 8 whatever, then yes, you may be stuck (and it's not a fact, but remember than normally you are stuck), so you have to migrate to the next version of that software to migrate to another JRE.
As to doing something 'particularly interesting' - this is business software. The interesting things here are the complexity of integrating multiple stores and offices and suppliers and manufacturers, the entire chain. Having the data available as soon as possible, having it all being transactional, having very quick response and very useful analysis tools. Having data being redundant and having ability to restore information quickly, if parts of it are lost in different systems from other systems. Having enough functionality to be able to compete.
The importance of business software today is in providing ability to compete in this market, which is the market of wider separation between those who have money to buy anything they like, and the majority, whose available funds are shrinking due to the inflation and the resulting price hikes and the joblessness.
The business software is not about launching a satellite to the other galaxy, it's about integration, speed, analysis, being faster than the other guy, being able to show, to prove that your software actually MAKES MONEY.
When you design your own line of software, your own systems as an investment, with your own time and savings and abilities, if you can't make money for your customers then you fail. That's all that is 'interesting' in this case.
Hi there, I am troy McClure, you might remember me because you can't stop responding to my comments with various nonsense.
1. You THINK that you elect your politicians. 2. It doesn't matter WHO is elected, they are in UN and their agenda is to destroy your sovereignty. 3. The only honest way to vote is with you OWN money, not with money of other people, thus voting in the market place is a much more honest act than voting to steal money from some to give it to you.
So, some 1%er will make hundreds of billions of profit.. nice for him... and 3 years later, we'll be wishing you had a solar panel...
- isn't oil what you want? If you didn't want it, why would you buy it?
If you think you have something better to offer, go ahead, offer it. Of-course somebody who develops an oil field and sells that product will be in top 1% of earners, what else is new? Do you know why he is going to be there? Because 100% of people want that product.
You are right, but it's not just WIPO. If the government officials KNEW what they were getting with the Internet 20 years ago, they would have outlawed the entire thing back then, it was much easier - nobody knew what it was.
The cat is out of the bag. The absolute power corrupts absolutely, and when you are a representative of an organization that is responsible to nobody, that consists of politicians who are there specifically because that type of power is responsible to nobody, realize - they are playing with this 'world government' idea - nobody elected them.
These are little dictators, stealing your sovereignty one step at a time.
A surgeon will recommend to operate. A lawyer to do legal work. A soldier to kill someone.
- a good professional surgeon will recommend to weigh in options and only operate if it is truly necessary. A lawyer will recommend to seek legal advice, and he probably would be correct. A soldier would not recommend to kill someone, that's the job of Ministry of Offense. Donald Rumsfeld would recommend to kill a bunch of people and he would insist to do it with very few soldiers to ensure that the civilian population wouldn't object much against a bigger invasion.
A soldier would recommend to NOT go to a war I bet, because a soldier is the most likely person to be killed and so are his soldier friends.
This tells me that this guy in UN is a Donald Rumsfeld in his own right. Which means he does not belong where he is sitting, but more importantly it means that you don't want to be part of UN.
I'll switch to Open SDK then, which of-course will require some rework, because there are certain differences.
Not only am I the one making all of the system engineering decisions on this, but I am the one setting business requirements as well. Nobody is above you, you know, when you are doing something by yourself on your own, with your own time and your own savings.
1. I didn't inherit anything, it's all my original implementation, which has now taken 2 years.
2. The client application in question is much more robust than any browser based web app can deliver. Try manipulating thousands of rows of data in a single table in DOM with Javascript, you'll quickly find out what I mean, regardless of what you use, your own scripts, or 'go' or any other library out there.
3. There are parts of the system (which consists of multiple applications), that are exposed to external users, this is an integration project after all, integrating stores and main office, and then suppliers and manufacturers and even eventually store clients, those who have discount cards. So of-course everything that is exposed uses encryption etc.
Well, it's not the only app running. There are some office apps, email client, possible a browser opened at the same time. Things like that, who knows what's in the browser.
It's about 2G RAM per machine and I dedicate 1G to the client (-Xms256m -Xmx1000m), it's not absolutely necessary, but they can load the entire base (about 35000 SKU) into the memory of the applet and they can open multiple catalog windows in it as well, multiple order windows, who knows what they do. 35000SKU would easily take 35000 20MB in one catalog window (though they are normally using filters not to download the entire catalog from the server into the client app).
But you are right, this is one of their main application that they use to manage the store - incoming/returning/moving orders, catalogs, inventorizations, write offs, various reports, main office server communications, price changes, equipment setup, price checker and multiple POS communications and sales data handling, all that jazz.
The speed of the interface is not the issue, the issue can be something they require to execute on the database level maybe.
I am using ZPL, but on the client, and only the client that is working on a Windows machine is able to print in Cyrillic. One of these days I may get around figuring out why I can't print Cyrillic with ZPL from a GNU/Linux machine, but obviously I use CUPS there, with RAW and send ZPL to the printer.
The JVM is installed as a root, the tomcat server runs as a tomcat user, but I do navigate system as root:)
I am actually going to try these flags in one of these stores, see if that helps. Of-course there are all sorts of errors that creep up and kill the JVM this way. Here is a shitty one, that only affects 2 stores for some reason and this one crashes the client, not the server.
Lovely stuff like this, very useful.
# Problematic frame: # C [libc.so.6+0x6e199] unsigned long+0xec9
Life is basically hard:) these are just little things.
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Over 2 years of work on all of this, what do you think, you are coming out with something that was NOT looked at?
When you build your project like that, go ahead, be creative. You'll soon find that being creative to get around browser and document related problems takes all of your time rather than actually building the functions that business actually needs.
It's an app to run in a store, they don't do pagination, the filters are there, but it's possible to pull out an entire catalog, so say 40,000 lines of data in one window.
Let me put it this way: browsers are SHIT at this. Total irredeemable SHIT. Try it sometime, to pull 40,000 lines into a table, and then do manipulations on that (from sorting columns, to adding/removing rows for example). There is no patience for 5 minute page reloads, redraws, refreshes and repositioning.
No library can help with that either, no 'go', nothing.
Pulling out 40,000 lines that are serialized Java beans, compressed during transmission, rendering them all is just a couple of seconds, and then the table interface can do sorting and more in under a second per function.
So there you go, and that's just one example.
Other examples include being able to use various hardware from the interface, types of barcode scanners and printers that require other tricks and drivers your favorite browser is useless for.
Million /. monkeys can repeat the same stories over and over, that's what happens when the keys are on a touchscreen instead of having the proper clickety click keyboard.
Converting hundreds of millions of vehicles from normal fuel to hydrogen right now, without any reason, converting millions of gas stations.
Even just the fact that hydrogen is mainly collected as a byproduct of natural gas extraction, it's energy/volume and energy/mass density is ridiculously low compared to anything oil based, unless you start compressing it at extreme pressures.
Go ahead, ask me whether I am more comfortable driving a car that has a nuclear reactor in it or driving a car with a hydrogen tank, filled at 700bar.
If free markets always had the answer, then we would never have a stock-market crash because the market would always be factoring in the long-term.
- nonsense. The Federal reserve can always print more money and misallocate the resources and government can always create more regulations (destroying production capacity), which would crash the market, because the free market is actually trying to work out all of this misallocation.
A crash is actually a way to FIX the problem, it's a way that market is trying to get rid of the misallocations, malinvestments. Recessions need to work their way through, but government prevents them from doing so by injecting more and more money into the system.
Money hides the problem for a little while longer, but what happens in the long run is that the more times and the more money is used to push the problem into the future, the less effective this injections become, so more and more money is needed to be injected.
The problem is that the more money is injected the less probability is of the problem being solved by the market without a complete catastrophe - failure of the currency itself.
I argue that it is government that creates the culture of short-term profit by artificially fixing the price of money at 0 and printing ever more of it.
If we restrict the supply of oil, then the market will search of solutions.
- nonsense. The only way to move towards searching for real solutions is to have the real price of oil (not the price in inflated currency, but real price) to go much higher, this will eventually happen. As it is today, the actual price of oil is very low in real money, because the supply is very large.
In this case, trusting the markets is like driving toward a cliff.
- nonsense. It's hoping that the government will do something that would ever make any sense is driving towards a cliff.
How long ago did they set up the "department of energy"? Too long ago. So how is it working out for you?
well, no question that's a major problem. We'll see what happens this time.
Ron Paul 2012.
Yeah, things are not all peaches and butterfly farts. Do you know what they do to get hydro electrical power sometimes? They flood entire valleys, destroys rivers and grounds, they destroys forests.
Do you know what kind of nonsense the solar is? The poisons that are created by the manufacturing process are not better than any other industrial waste, it's at least as bad as most other manufacturing processes out there.
Gas and oil are the simplest forms of fuels to store. We figured out the way to store them that are the simples, safest forms of storage developed compared to ANY other types of fuels. Your assertion has no value here, no electrical battery is better than a gas tank.
They are the simplest to handle, they are liquids basically, they are the easiest to refill into a container, they are the most convenient, obviously there are no nuclear rods and there are no dams.
There is NOTHING that people do that does not produce SOME FORM of pollution. It's physically impossible to produce no pollution of any kind at all while storing/using/generating energy.
Even electrical transmission lines can be called 'polluting' or 'hurting' the environment in some other ways.
Do you know why that is? It's because it's energy. We need energy to do stuff and if we don't have energy, we die. We die from hunger, from dirty water, from lack of sanitation, from cold, whatever. We MUST modify our environment and that's how we will survive and we MUST use the cheapest ways of producing energy that are available at any point in time so we can concentrate our attention on the pressing things that we DO with that energy, which probably lead to our continuous survival not only on this globe, that is now supporting 7billion people and will support probably 1000 times as many people in 1000 years, but also off this planet. There is nothing that we do that can be considered 'clean' by everybody, but we do what we must.
money.
The reason why people buy it is because the oil industry has successfully stalled efforts to replace it with something that's less polluting and renewable.
- and you call ME an idiot with this IDIOTIC assertion?
What a bunch of nonsense. Do you know why people are still using oil and coal and gas today? It's because it's the CHEAPEST and most abundant, easiest to use, easiest to transport, easiest to store and easiest to handle solution.
You don't have to grow it like corn and reprocess it into ethanol, you don't have to design security procedures around it that are equivalent of those used in nuclear power, you don't have liquefy it and hold it under extreme pressure like hydrogen, it has very dense energy content per volume and mass (of-course nuclear beats it, but every time I suggest a nuclear car, everybody freaks out).
Oil and gas and coal are not going anywhere until they are so expensive to extract, because technology can no longer be used to extract them cheaply, that even nuclear option becomes feasible, be it with nuclear power car engines or be it with nuclear power plants everywhere and completely redesigned infrastructure to support everybody driving an electric vehicle.
Your paranoia, that somebody had to sit and devise a way to destroy your water propelled car just to sell more oil is the idiotic fantasy, not my assertion that 100% of population wants oil, coal and gas - because they do.
Every single piece of bread you ate in your life was brought to you by oil, coal and gas (and in some cases nuclear). From fertilizers, to transport, to the heat of a stove, to your bus, to your elevator at home.
I don't know the definition of major in this context, if by 'major' you mean - it's built for Weblogic server 3 or 4 or 8 or 11 or for Websphere 4, 6, 7, 8 whatever, then yes, you may be stuck (and it's not a fact, but remember than normally you are stuck), so you have to migrate to the next version of that software to migrate to another JRE.
As to doing something 'particularly interesting' - this is business software. The interesting things here are the complexity of integrating multiple stores and offices and suppliers and manufacturers, the entire chain. Having the data available as soon as possible, having it all being transactional, having very quick response and very useful analysis tools. Having data being redundant and having ability to restore information quickly, if parts of it are lost in different systems from other systems. Having enough functionality to be able to compete.
The importance of business software today is in providing ability to compete in this market, which is the market of wider separation between those who have money to buy anything they like, and the majority, whose available funds are shrinking due to the inflation and the resulting price hikes and the joblessness.
The business software is not about launching a satellite to the other galaxy, it's about integration, speed, analysis, being faster than the other guy, being able to show, to prove that your software actually MAKES MONEY.
When you design your own line of software, your own systems as an investment, with your own time and savings and abilities, if you can't make money for your customers then you fail. That's all that is 'interesting' in this case.
Hi there, I am troy McClure, you might remember me because you can't stop responding to my comments with various nonsense.
1. You THINK that you elect your politicians.
2. It doesn't matter WHO is elected, they are in UN and their agenda is to destroy your sovereignty.
3. The only honest way to vote is with you OWN money, not with money of other people, thus voting in the market place is a much more honest act than voting to steal money from some to give it to you.
So, some 1%er will make hundreds of billions of profit.. nice for him... and 3 years later, we'll be wishing you had a solar panel...
- isn't oil what you want? If you didn't want it, why would you buy it?
If you think you have something better to offer, go ahead, offer it. Of-course somebody who develops an oil field and sells that product will be in top 1% of earners, what else is new? Do you know why he is going to be there? Because 100% of people want that product.
It's possible to switch to a different SDK and JVM if something that terrible happens.
You are right, but it's not just WIPO. If the government officials KNEW what they were getting with the Internet 20 years ago, they would have outlawed the entire thing back then, it was much easier - nobody knew what it was.
The cat is out of the bag. The absolute power corrupts absolutely, and when you are a representative of an organization that is responsible to nobody, that consists of politicians who are there specifically because that type of power is responsible to nobody, realize - they are playing with this 'world government' idea - nobody elected them.
These are little dictators, stealing your sovereignty one step at a time.
A surgeon will recommend to operate. A lawyer to do legal work. A soldier to kill someone.
- a good professional surgeon will recommend to weigh in options and only operate if it is truly necessary. A lawyer will recommend to seek legal advice, and he probably would be correct. A soldier would not recommend to kill someone, that's the job of Ministry of Offense. Donald Rumsfeld would recommend to kill a bunch of people and he would insist to do it with very few soldiers to ensure that the civilian population wouldn't object much against a bigger invasion.
A soldier would recommend to NOT go to a war I bet, because a soldier is the most likely person to be killed and so are his soldier friends.
This tells me that this guy in UN is a Donald Rumsfeld in his own right. Which means he does not belong where he is sitting, but more importantly it means that you don't want to be part of UN.
I know this works, the speed is awful.
I'll switch to Open SDK then, which of-course will require some rework, because there are certain differences.
Not only am I the one making all of the system engineering decisions on this, but I am the one setting business requirements as well. Nobody is above you, you know, when you are doing something by yourself on your own, with your own time and your own savings.
Grow up.
that's what I said I was doing.
doing the same thing. The problem is printing Cyrillic into RAW with ZPL.
1. I didn't inherit anything, it's all my original implementation, which has now taken 2 years.
2. The client application in question is much more robust than any browser based web app can deliver. Try manipulating thousands of rows of data in a single table in DOM with Javascript, you'll quickly find out what I mean, regardless of what you use, your own scripts, or 'go' or any other library out there.
3. There are parts of the system (which consists of multiple applications), that are exposed to external users, this is an integration project after all, integrating stores and main office, and then suppliers and manufacturers and even eventually store clients, those who have discount cards. So of-course everything that is exposed uses encryption etc.
the only finger that these students should give to the authorities there is the one located between the index and the ring finger.
35000SKU would take 20MB per window at least, in the previous comment I typed an extra 35000 there for no reason.
Well, it's not the only app running. There are some office apps, email client, possible a browser opened at the same time. Things like that, who knows what's in the browser.
It's about 2G RAM per machine and I dedicate 1G to the client (-Xms256m -Xmx1000m), it's not absolutely necessary, but they can load the entire base (about 35000 SKU) into the memory of the applet and they can open multiple catalog windows in it as well, multiple order windows, who knows what they do. 35000SKU would easily take 35000 20MB in one catalog window (though they are normally using filters not to download the entire catalog from the server into the client app).
But you are right, this is one of their main application that they use to manage the store - incoming/returning/moving orders, catalogs, inventorizations, write offs, various reports, main office server communications, price changes, equipment setup, price checker and multiple POS communications and sales data handling, all that jazz.
The speed of the interface is not the issue, the issue can be something they require to execute on the database level maybe.
I am using ZPL, but on the client, and only the client that is working on a Windows machine is able to print in Cyrillic. One of these days I may get around figuring out why I can't print Cyrillic with ZPL from a GNU/Linux machine, but obviously I use CUPS there, with RAW and send ZPL to the printer.
The JVM is installed as a root, the tomcat server runs as a tomcat user, but I do navigate system as root :)
I am actually going to try these flags in one of these stores, see if that helps. Of-course there are all sorts of errors that creep up and kill the JVM this way. Here is a shitty one, that only affects 2 stores for some reason and this one crashes the client, not the server.
Lovely stuff like this, very useful.
# Problematic frame:
# C [libc.so.6+0x6e199] unsigned long+0xec9
Life is basically hard :) these are just little things.